Asics Trabuco Max 2 Review. The Most Cushioned Trail Shoe?

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The Asics Trabuco Max 2 is the most cushioned road or trail shoe we have had on the channel. A massive piece of FF Blast+ foam makes for a hugely cushioned, yet very balanced ride. This review goes deep into why we believe this is the most cushioned trail shoe on the market today.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:17 Disclaimer
1:42 Shoe stats
4:28 Finn testing mileage
5:24 What is step in feel?
6:16 Brett testing mileage
7:03 Finn fit analysis
8:14 Brett fit analysis
9:00 Great door to trail shoe
12:44 Underfoot feel
14:22 Brett’s favorite heel cup
15:44 What did Asics design this shoe for and does it hold true?
17:14 Would you race in it?
20:45 Value
21:29 Would you run in it every day?

Пікірлер: 105

@mtbsinglespeed6219 4 ай бұрын

Nice review, has anyone tried the new 3? I wanted to stick with true to size but after wrestling with them for a week I sized up a 1/2 size. I felt like the heel cup collar foam was so cushioned it was pushing me to forward in the fit. It was a battle between heel lock and lacing being too tight…

@ConversationalPace 4 ай бұрын

I haven't tried the 3 yet. Surely someone here will be an early adopter though and can chime in! Gonna pin this comment

@Kaisersozze 3 ай бұрын

Runrepeat has classified the V2 as a summer shoe and V3 as a winter shoe. They said the midsole of the V3 performs much better in colder temperatures and the upper is a bit warmer. Strange because its technically the same foam on paper anyway.

@ConversationalPace 3 ай бұрын

That is interesting. I agree, you'd think that the midsoles would act the same. I would have thought it was the new upper that made it a little more winter friendly

@irunovermountains Жыл бұрын

Always value these reviews regardless of whether I’m interested in the shoe. Actual trail runners reviewing shoes with solid mileage. It’s shocking to say that’s a rarity. Keep it up guys 👏

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Hey we appreciate it! Just trying to add the most value to these shoe reviews in the ways we know how!

@leodinho1914 Жыл бұрын

Good review! 🤘 These are the types of reviews that really make online shopping easier. Thank you lads

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Love to hear it!

@berry5954 7 ай бұрын

Thought it was crap after the first two runs, knee pains, went back into the closet. Couldn't believe you guys loved it so much, so I tried it again. Outsole: best ever. Midsole: superb, way better than the Nimbus. Way way better than the Speedgoat 5. Trail way better than the novablast 3 TR. Stable but plush. Upper: looks and feels 1997.. But damn is it comfortable. Can't fault it. Thx guys, cant believe this isnt the leading trail running vlog.

@ConversationalPace 7 ай бұрын

Do you think it just needed a few runs to break in? I've also loved to blame other issues I've been having on shoes, so perhaps it was just a bad time to try out a new shoe? Glad you have it a 2nd chance though and that it's worked out for you! Appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching!

@berry5954 2 ай бұрын

@@ConversationalPace this def was a “it is me, not you“ issue. When I am injured I pick this shoe. It might not feel fast, but I easily break pr-s in it. I want this with a road upper and road outsole. Been running a lot with the Agravic ultra, that feels fast but in reality this shoe isn’t much slower but , big but, the amount of damage on the muscles is so much higher. This is a Tina Turner, simply the best. Better than all the rest

@onwithandoverwith Жыл бұрын

Great review, thank you! I'm expecting mine tomorrow 4/12/23 and am super excited to try them out. Will hit you back with more info in the coming weeks. Thanks again!

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! This one is going in my top 5 trail shoes for the year, I can already tell. Enjoy!

@mathewnavarro2612 4 ай бұрын

How did you get on with them?

@TheDJMeyer85 13 сағат бұрын

I just ordered these, I had the Novablast 3 TR for trail running and they were okay but these look more up my alley

@js401 Жыл бұрын

thanks for the information about the shoe and how it responds to different surfaces and paces

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We're glad it was useful!

@ZenDao_85 Жыл бұрын

Love this shoe. Its also basically the nimbus 25 with a trail outsole. Best outsole compound on the market. Grips on wet surfaces better than anything else.

@Sabundy Жыл бұрын

I really want a pair of these

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

I was so impressed with this outsole grip! I really hope this shoe helps nudge Asics into the direction of expanding their trail lineup even more.

@dr.oneilaakashbiswas1038 2 ай бұрын

@@ConversationalPace have you tried the Asics Gel Trabuco 12?

@ConversationalPace 2 ай бұрын

I have not, unfortunately. From what I've heard, the Trabuco 12 is firmer and is a little burlier feeling, closer to something like a Brooks Cascadia

@dr.oneilaakashbiswas1038 2 ай бұрын

@@ConversationalPace is the Trabuco 12 worth it under 60 $?

@Alabama_Runnr Жыл бұрын

I ran a personal best time at my 3rd ever 50k. Legs felt great after it as well. I call it the Hoka Speedgoat killa.

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the PR and I agree, this shoe can definitely go toe to toe with the Speedgoat!

@aaronsmith2929 Жыл бұрын

You guys killed it on this review. Just picked this shoe up and the New Balance More Trail V3. The MTV3 is definitely the softer, squishier shoe but to a fault imo, as it suffers from lack of responsiveness and energy return in any type of incline situation. The Trabuco on the other hand somehow has both amazing cushion and responsiveness. This shoe checks so many boxes.

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

That NB is quite the shoe! I agree it might be too soft and I worry about how much it might pack out over the course of an ultra. That Trabuco though somehow doesn't feel that way despite being nearly as soft! Truly a very well balanced shoe

@matti72033 Жыл бұрын

Well said! I agree...this Asics is one of the best shoes I've ever run in.

@ericperramond3463 Жыл бұрын

Agreed on all counts...the TM2 is a great one. It's comfortable, protective, grippy, and remarkably stable for its stack. Not sure I'd race in it on courses with water crossings but otherwise....so, so good. Great review and convo!

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I didn't get to test the drainage capabilities. Not very good? Able to compare to a shoe that drains better?

@matthewmyers7826 Жыл бұрын

@@ConversationalPace would love to know this as well! It'd be a no go for me if it doesn't drain well

@HenrikForsberg 9 ай бұрын

I forded rivers in the Swedish Arctic last week while out running 15miles/24km, super cold water, felt no problem with the shoes getting drenched at all, dried and felt comfortable really quick IMHO. Love the shoes, my only regret is that I couldn't get my second pair in black, so I have 2 pairs of blue.

@KaiEast Жыл бұрын

Great review! I have almost 100 miles on my TM2’s now and absolutely love them. Raced my 30k in them too. I would love to see a review comparing them to the new New Balance Fresh Foam X Trail More v3.

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

We definitely will review the More v3 if we have the opportunity to. There's a whole wave of megamax cushioned shoes and we're here for it 🔥🔥

@suggg 2 ай бұрын

Asics does a lot of TR versions of their top road shoes..... I think all of them.....most have 8mm offsets and low key knobs. The Novablast 3TR I founc to be more stable and way better fitting than Max 2. I am now checking out Cumulus 25 TR.. ----- broad midsole, roomy toe box, snug heel and midfoot, flexible forefoot and enough knobby for damp to dry trails....... and FF BLAST + for trail runners who like cushiion.. The max 2 midsole flairing (lack of) prevents higher paced off chamber running. Max 2 is a predictable surface trail shoe.

@ConversationalPace 2 ай бұрын

Yeah the width of the Max 2 doesn't lend it to be the most nimble of shoes for sure. I would be super curious to try out the Cumulus TR, as that has always been such a reliable shoe for me and I run on pretty mild trails so road cushioning with just a bit of tread is the sweet spot for most of my miles

@jacobdetamore5922 6 ай бұрын

Just bought on RW for $99, looking forward to logging many miles here in South Carolina

@ConversationalPace 6 ай бұрын

That's one of the deals of the year! Good find!

@MuhammadArifKhan-uw5dg 8 ай бұрын

Super duper amazing 🤩🤩🤩

@ConversationalPace 8 ай бұрын

Agreed, such a fun shoe! Thanks for watching!

@TrailrunnerTroy Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reviews. All great so far (except that the Naked T/r does work incredibly well for some of us ;-) I would have considered this for the Cowboy 200, which I raced last November using the Hoka Tecton X (for the first 125 miles) until - after my feet had swollen a full size - I switched to the NNormal Tomir, which has a voluminous fit. Not sure if one shoe can work for 200 Miles if one’s feet swell so significantly. I might consider the ASICS for the Sangre de Cristo 200 in Colorado this September.

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I agree, I'm not so sure there is really one shoe that could truly be great for the entirety of a 200 mile race, but this one could be close! It definitely would come down to foot swelling and if there is a need to go up a size mid-way through.

@TrailrunnerTroy Жыл бұрын

@@ConversationalPace the Naked T/r would be my first choice for Beyond 100 distances in the mountains if the upper were modified to allow boas or laces or some other kind of adjustability when swelling occurs. I would cache a second pair in a bigger size to deal with my enlarged feet. The midsole feel of the T/r is, as you pointed out in your video, the very best on the market today, including for those of us who don’t trust overbuilt shoes on technical climbs and especially descents. Cheers! And thanks again.

@johnwardlaw6204 Жыл бұрын

Tried it out at Art Sports in Yokohama (close to where I live). Really wanted to buy it but they only sold JP 28.0 and I need 28.5 (about US 10.5). Will probably still end up picking a pair up for a 100km race in May.

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely don't want to force a half size short, especially for a 100k!

@marqueso1600 9 ай бұрын

Great review guys! I have a random question....what is the brand of cap you guys are wearing and where can I purchase one? Thanks

@ConversationalPace 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! The hats are a coaching company called Trails & Tarmac. Here's a link to their shop trails-and-tarmac.myshopify.com/collections/trails-and-tarmac-gear

@marqueso1600 9 ай бұрын

@@ConversationalPace Thank you for the link!

@Samarain Жыл бұрын

I have a question. I really like this sneaker design, but the question is, would it be a good choice for hiking in the mountains for distances of 15 to 30 kilometers? If not, what would be the best choice in terms of comfort?

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

I think the answer for what shoe or shoes might work best would depend on the type of mountain trails you are hiking on. These are definitely some of the most comfortable shoes I have worn. I wouldn't take them on very technical terrain though, as the amount of cushion these shoes have does sacrifice some of the stability.

@rogerbizarello9197 Жыл бұрын

Its similar tô Asics Glideride 3, in terms of feel underfoot? Rocker and foam seems similar..

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried the Glideride 3 personally, but it should feel pretty similar in terms of cushioning. The rocker of the Glideride 3 appears to start a little earlier under the foot, which will make the heel to toe transition (on flat ground) smoother. The Trabuco Max 2 rocker is a little shorter and starts later to get a bit more of the shoe touching the ground at any given point so there is more stability, which is beneficial for the trail. Hope this helps!

@MrAlex2376 Жыл бұрын

Could you compare them with the Max 1? They said that the first ones had a stability problem, have they improved it?

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I haven't run in the first generation of the Trabuco Max, so I'm not sure how the stability compares. For what it's worth, I did feel that for a shoe with this much stack height, it did feel pretty stable.

@johnwhitesides566 Жыл бұрын

You mentioned the Caldera 6 - how would you compare the two in ride given their similar weights?

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

To me, the caldera was a touch firmer and a little lower to the ground, but even though the Asics was thicker, I still found it easier to cover all the paces in the Asics. I also thought the upper was more comfortable in the Asics. If I had to choose between the two for really anything actually, I'm going with the Asics

@johnwhitesides566 Жыл бұрын

@@ConversationalPace Thanks - appreciate it.

@runzization Жыл бұрын

@@ConversationalPace same sizing in tm2 as brooks?

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Yeah they are definitely very similar for sizing

@talhakazi319 Жыл бұрын

Would you recommend these for overpronators

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

I think it would depend on the severity of overpronation. This shoe does provide some stability, but it is still pretty soft, and there are shoes out there that could be even better for overpronation. Many trail shoes don't have any of the traditional features of road shoes that correct overpronation, because the trail underfoot is so different with each step and negates a lot of how those systems in a road shoe would work. So while this shoe would be alright, a few high stack shoes that might be better would be the Hoka Mafate and the Topo Ultraventure

@billchen303 Жыл бұрын

Do you recommend this as a general hiking sneaker?

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

generally speaking, it would be fantastic. If you know where in the world you would be spending the majority of your time hiking, there might be others that will be more specific to the terrain, but this Trabuco Max would be great across a wide variety for sure.

@runzization Жыл бұрын

Same sizing as Nova b last 2? Pegasus 39?

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Yes very similar sizing to those from a length standpoint. The toe box of the Trabuco Max 2 is a little bit rounder, so the toes will have more room to splay out, but that shouldn't be enough to affect the size you get. Hope this helps!

@burton9281 5 ай бұрын

Would love your opinion: I've got a first ever 50k coming up in April. Had a tough time finding shoes that fit my foot but The Trabuco Max 2 and Challenger 7 both fit. Which would you use on a SW (Sedona) 50k where you're not worried about finish time?

@ConversationalPace 5 ай бұрын

honestly, it's really a toss up if both are comfortable and fit well. I'd lean towards the challenger if there were more dirt (or even paved) road sections, and Asics if it has more singletrack. Asics might handle mud and slop a little better, but it's a pretty close match up. My gut is to always go with the one I am most comfortable in. Best of luck!

@burton9281 5 ай бұрын

@@ConversationalPace Thank you! I'll train in both and see where the wind takes me. Appreciate it.

@MadLadsAnonymous Жыл бұрын

How does this compare to the Catamount 2 or Topo MTN Racer 2?

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

We haven't gotten to put the Catamount 2 on yet, unfortunately, but the Mtn Racer 2 is similar in regards to forefoot volume and space. The Topo toe box is a little more squared off, but the underfoot width of the Asics is actually a bit wider. Heel width is similar as well, but the biggest difference in overall fit is the way the arch shape feel. More arch shape in the Topo with some love or hate. The Asics took a little less risk there by keeping that overall arch height a little bit lower. Hope this helps!

@MadLadsAnonymous Жыл бұрын

@@ConversationalPace It does! People seem to love both the Catamount 2 and the MTN Racer 2 (ETA July for the 3?) so I'd like to compare them for trails. Need some cushion for my achey feet.

@sypherian1982 6 ай бұрын

I do have a question regarding this shoe, I'm a fairly heavy set guy around 15 Kilos overweight, although I have done a fair deal of weightlifting in the past so that ideal weight calculation might be off a few kilos. I've started taking up running as I need to get in shape but always had issues with knees and shins even before I got overweight. My physical therapist has guided me to Asics Gel shoes something I've had mentioned before but never really took note of. I've invested in Trabuco 11 GTX as well as some inlay soles to help stabilize my arches and have better form. So would the max 2 that is even more cushioned be a better shoe for me to alleviate fatigue and help me gain longer distance? I run a mixture of dirt. gravel and tarmac. Sorry for the long rant hope you guys can give me some insight.

@ConversationalPace 6 ай бұрын

This is definitely a very debated topic and while I'm not a medical professional and this is not direct advice, this is what I've found to be helpful for me and runners I've worked with. A higher cushioned shoe will only help protect your knees/shins/joints etc if you are working on running with efficient biomechanics. If you have bad running form habits, then a higher cushioned shoe will likely only serve as a crutch that you will continue to lean into more, and you can only pack so much cushion in a shoe. If you are actively working on making your running form more efficient, which helps a lot with proper loading and unloading of the joints, then a higher cushioned shoe will also help you out. With all that being said, the Trabuco Max 2 has quite a bit more stack height (and softer foam) than the Trabuco 11. Thanks for watching!

@sypherian1982 6 ай бұрын

@@ConversationalPace Thanls for the explanation, much appreciated 😊

@bcm-n7244 19 күн бұрын

Are these .... ore cushioned than the New Balance Fresh Foam X Trail V3 ?

@ConversationalPace 7 күн бұрын

The New Balance are definitely softer. I would have to imagine that in the long term, the Asics is going to deliver a higher quality cushion experience for more miles, because it starts out just a touch firmer.

@mcgovski Жыл бұрын

No trail runners use Asics? what is Xavier Thevenard then? Also Should have bought these when I asked Brett About these awhile back Stoked to try these

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Seemed like Xavier was the only one for a handful of years, but he has actually switched to On running. He's gonna be wishing he could wear these now!

@mcgovski Жыл бұрын

@@ConversationalPace I read a poll that accounted shoes worn at UTMB all week and asics was top 5. (this was a few years ago) Hoka wasnt in the top 5, so it was an old report. But stoked to check these out

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

5 years is a long time in the trail world. Perhaps more popular outside of the US, but I would love to see Asics make more of a push into the US trail market

@NateCrail Жыл бұрын

@@ConversationalPace Pro-trail runner Sara Alonso recently switched from Salomon to Asics

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

That's right! I hope that means there will be continued investment into the trail world by Asics. I don't see Sara running in this Trabuco Max 2 much, but hopefully there will be some fun lighter weight, more agile shoes down the line!

@Sarge-R1 Жыл бұрын

is this a shoe for heavy people ? im 137 kg

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

Yes, this could be a great shoe! It has plenty of cushion to protect the body, but also a wide base to help with stability. With these higher cushioned shoes that are very soft, it is important to replace them at the appropriate time when the cushion starts to break down. For higher stack shoes such as this one, there is more cushion to break down, which also increases the chance for it to break down unevenly, which can throw the ankles, knees, and hips out of alignment. Hope this helps!

@kovenant7 6 ай бұрын

Serious chonk!

@ConversationalPace 6 ай бұрын

One of the chonkiest!

@kovenant7 6 ай бұрын

@ConversationalPace I like this shoe but I've been more into distance road running, down here we don't have snow on roads etc. I could easily buy the meta edge or sky. Have enough shoes right now though.

@jameswestmoreland9717 4 ай бұрын

Good point on Olympic trials but any other trail/cross country race the world athletics would not care. They are only concerned with road/pavement races.

@jameswestmoreland9717 4 ай бұрын

Is this a trail Superblast?

@ConversationalPace 4 ай бұрын

The superblast has FF Turbo foam whereas this Trabuco has FF Blast +, so the Trabuco is going to have a little less responsiveness than the Superblast. Combared to the rest of the Asics trail line up, this Trabuco definitely has the most in common with the Superblast

@jameswestmoreland9717 4 ай бұрын

Thanks forcthe quick response and info. Have a good one@ConversationalPace

@valec1986 5 ай бұрын

now I have a dilemma. hoka stinson, or asics trabuco max 2

@ConversationalPace 5 ай бұрын

That's a tough one! The Stinson is going to provide even more cushioning and has a wider platform for stability. The Trabuco Max is going to feel a little bouncier, little lighter, and provide a bit better grip.

@ricodelavega4511 Жыл бұрын

more cushin for the pushin

@ConversationalPace Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@cgazlan 10 ай бұрын

This shoe at USD85.... Should I buy it? 😅

@ConversationalPace 10 ай бұрын

Practically making money at that point! 😂

@cgazlan 4 ай бұрын

@@ConversationalPace Pulled the trigger today (5 months later after my comment here) at bought it at USD75 😂. Looked at the upcoming version 3, just an upper update with the exact same midsole and outsole.

@ConversationalPace 4 ай бұрын

Haha better late than never! Especially since you got the deal of the year!