+xdmaninblackxd - ich hab zwar einen bairischen Grossvater gehabt und beschäftige mich gern mit Dialekten, aber das eine Viertel hilft mir manchmal nicht weiter, wenn ich im Fernsehen (Bayern3) bairische Leute sprechen höre und kaum verstehe um was es geht; da wünsche ich mir die Untertitel, wie sie im Fernsehen beim Senden von Schwyzerdütsch eingeblendet werden. Lustigerweise kam gerade ein Dokumentarfilm über Kallstadt an der Weinstrasse auf arte, in dem es um die berühmten Auswanderer-Abkömmlinge Donald Trump und die Ketchup-Heinz ging - da hat man die Gespräche zwischen den Pfälzern auch mit Untertiteln unterlegt. Ich wohne in der Kurpfalz - mittedrin :-) Wenn ich Dokus über Amish, Hutterer, PA-Dutch sehe, verstehe ich auch immer sher viel. Ich glaube der größte Stolperstein sie besser zu verstehen, ist die Veränderung in der Grammatik, die seit der Auswanderung in Deutschland stattgefunden hat. Das ist es auch, woran man oft Spätaussiedler z. B. aus Siebenbürgen, dem Banat oder Wolgadeutschen erkennt - über die Jahrhunderte haben Sie die Grammatik fortgeführt, die zu Zeiten der Auswanderung galt. I had a bavarian grandfather and am very interested in dialects, yet still have trouble understanding Bavarians on TV and wish they were subtitled like the Swiss Germans when shown on TV. Just this week there was a docu on the famous descendants Donald Trump and the Heinz (ketchup) family from a village called Kallstadt in Palatinate and the convcersations between the inhabitants were subtitled - very funny. I live in the middle of Kurpfalz :-) Whenever I see docus on Amish, Hutterers, PA-Dutch, I understand quite a lot and I think the obstacle to understanding more is basically the use of the grammar that was used by the time their ancestors emigrated. German grammar has been reformed a lot since the 17th/18th/19th century when the waves of emigration happened.

xdmaninblackxd goht mir genauso u bin us de schwiiz

well i understand it perfectly but i live in palatinate aerea thats where most of pa dutch where from

I believe Americans called Germans Dutchmen into the middle of the twentieth century.

@@jameshudson169 Example: Arthur Flegenheimer AKA Dutch Schultz

It's sad, indeed, it has been the same in Louisiana or Missouri for Francophones. Because even if American are rather more liberalist (free) [or seem to be ] about the language, in fact in the XIX and the XX centuries they have wanted to anglicise the non-Anglophones as in many countries so as in the USA, it is the one language ideology, when it's plural it becomes to be 'suspect', even more during the two World Wars indeed (the treatment of the Japanese origined Americans during Second World War was full shame). Maybe now 'economically' even if Mexico and Latin America is real perspective, German and Hochdeutsch (Standard) can be too as Germany is the might #1 of Europe, so the USA need too Germanophones in order to make a bridge with Germany, Austria and Switzerland, three very healthy countries.

@@fivantvcs9055 not unlike the people who believe everybody should use the metric system and only the metric system. they want to obliterate any vestige of english units. but we won't let 'em, will we?!

Berks county. PA Dutch would be spoken around the kids by the older folks, in an attempt to be sly. Little ears, big pitchers. We learned all kinds of interesting phrases. 😂 The children weren’t allowed to speak PA Dutch, and the public school system helped suppress it. We were told in school that our “Dutchy” accent made us sound uneducated, so even that was suppressed. That was in the 1980s.

Are you still interested in your Deitsches Blut?

***** Yes, well, but now South Africa has Die Antwoord, so you're officially awesome! ;)

Hahaha! We're ashamed of them. xD

***** Well, before Die Antwoord, everyone thought of the Apartheid and crap like that, when hearing South Africa. Now, at least I think of "Zef", when I hear South Africa, which is much more nice than Apartheid :-)

Of course, but not just pa dutch people. There live 50-60 million us-americans with german heritage who forefathers all spoke german.

My mother was much the same, my Grandmother never taught her the dialect assuming she knew it in the first place (since she was born in the mid 30's around the same time many families stopped teaching the language). Apparently though, my mother had a grand aunt/cousin or other distant relative from Berlin, likely from my Grandmother's maternal line (since the family doesn't exist anymore I'll just tell you that they were the Wises, going back a generation or 2 to one Henry Wise (Heinrich Weiss) who should have immigrated here in the mid to late 19th century, I think at least), who had moved here just before WW2 about when she was in her 50's or so. My grandmother collected genealogical records and family history a few years before she died, where she often mentions a "Wise Bible" (her family bible) which I wish to god that I had. On a better note, I have a diary written in German, plus some stuff that might potentially be Scandinavian judging from the diacritics, that was passed down from my mother's family. One of the entries is legibly dated to a few years before the civil war, but that's pretty much all I can read from it. The handwriting in it is beautiful but god damn it if I can't read the bloody thing. At some point when I'm older and can afford it, I'm going to get it translated if at all possible. In mei Meining iss es drauerich, wann Leit ihre Mudderschprooch net lanne. Wammer ebbes wisse, deelt sie mit!

You know that reminds me of a German joke that goes like this: A guy goes to the doctor for his regular check-up and says to the doctor, "I have this problem, I poop every morning at seven" then the doctor says, "Oh that's not a problem at all, indeed most people would love to be that regular. Then the guy says, "But I don't get up until seven thirty."

Dann lern a bissl Deitsch ^^

Hymns and liturgy are in standard German, sermon and prayers are all in PD. They also use Luther's Bible. Most of the old order Amish near me have many difficulties with standard German.

Ah, thanks for the correction Doug. Hope you didn't think I was trying to be a know it all or something haha. Love the channel, by the way. The PA Dutch culture fascinates me. I am of German Heritage, but not PA Dutch. My family emigrated from Central Germany to Texas in the early 1800s. Keep spreading the PA Dutch langauge. The Texas dialect of German that my Grandparents spoke has almost completely died out and I would hate to see that happen with PA Dutch. Prost!

I didn't think that Tandil! Texas Deutsch is cool. I learned about it in college. Sad that it has almost died out.

Flyacow Good My last name is Heisey, which is German, and my dad's parernal side of the family arrived in Lancaster County, Pa. in 1725, from Switzerland.

My Dad's several times great grandfather Valentin Neu came over from Baden - Wurtenburg in 1720

redleg56 What exactly do you mean by 'plain people'? I don't know this expression, or the meaning with which you use it. About Mennonites, I mostly know that they, like the Amish, don't like to use modern technology, so they ride in a horse carriage instead of a car, and so on. We don't have any people in Germany who do this, though. Or, if there are a few, they most certainly do it out of necessity (i.e. because they have a horse and a carriage, but can't afford a car). There may be an exception, but if there is, it isn't widely known. As far as I know, it's also some kind of religious thing (which I don't know much about though), but most people over here are either "normal" protestants or catholics, or not very much into confessions at all (which doesn't mean they are not religious, just that they don't know what to do with the church as it exists today). There are several different "free churches" (based on protestantism, but separated from the normal "protestant church" organization), but their members also live normal modern-day lives, as far as I know. Others, mostly immigrants, have their own religions just like in every other country as well.

Seegal Galguntijak Plain people would be Amish and Old Order Mennonite. They are kind of like Chassids, but without the technology (and started at about the same time). I know that the 3rd Reich was very unfriendly to pacifists, and that Switzerland is highly armed non-violence. In PA we have several levels of Mennonite, River Brethren, Schwenckfelder and so on -- all with deep Anabaptist and Pietist roots. Sounds like they are all over here with so few left there. The same seems to be true of English based peaceful groups like Quakers.

redleg56 You are probably right. There's not much of this culture left over here - if any at all, that is...

I know! I said that in jest. I know many many funny Germans, particularly from your region which I have visited many times.

Kind of nasty comment.

Ich habe vor 10 Monaten schon abonniert und ich schaue auch jetzt wieder rein mach weiter so

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I don't know if he explained it...during colonial times, English speakers confused "Deitsch" with "Dutch," and the name just stuck.

Jennifer De Brauwer It's no confusion! Don't Dutch and Flemish students learn about the historical names of Nederlands before 1815 like Duits of the Nederlanden and Nederduits anymore?

herman zimmerman Ich versteh Dich gut, und wenn ich den Dialekt schreiben würde, mit dem ich aufgewachsen bin, würdest Du mich sogar noch besser verstehen - nur dass bei uns Dialekt etwas ist, was wir nur sprechen, und wenn wir schreiben dann nehmen wir Hochdeutsch.

Seegal Galguntijak Mir lebe wohl inn die Vereenichte Schtadte unn schreibe zu eenander in Englisch daweil es unser Mundart iss ganz wenig g'schriwwe. Ich hab keen English g'schwaetzt epp Ich inn die Schul gegange bin. Meine voreltere ware aus Deischte dorfer wie Eich, Sensenig, Hesse Darmschtadt, unn Schweizere Schtadte wie Berne unn Zurich.

herman zimmerman Ich bin auch mit einem hessischen Dialekt aufgewachsen, deshalb klingt Deine Mundart für mich so bekannt.

herman zimmerman Als Schwabe ist ganz einfach zu verstehen. Wir schreiben nur in Standarddeutsch weil jeder Dialekt hat Untergruppen. Wenn ich 20km weiter fahre spricht man das schwäbisch schon wieder ein bisschen anders. Also ist es besser man schreibt nur in Hochdeutsch und wenn man es braucht (in Norddeutschland o am Telefon) kann man es auch sprechen ohne noch grossartig lernen zu müssen.

Yes, since the 10th c., and also called Regnum Teutonicum or Teutonicorum in the beginning. And foreigners always thought the realm to be German despite there were also many Romance and Slavic speaking countries inside the realm.

Well. really there was only BOhemia.

aTurtleDarkly Don't forget the Slavic marches in the east and southeast.

The East Frankish Kingdom became the German Kingdom, then (Holy) Roman Empire.

deutsch and dutch mean diutsch, which come from diutisc. The term showed up after the german tribes fought together during Otto I. at the battle of Lechfeld and it mean "of the same people"

***** I am aware of this, yet I still find it confusing.

It actually goes back to the time (before the 19th century) when the word "Dutch" in English meant both German ("High Dutch") and (Netherlands/Flanders) Dutch ("Low Dutch)".

Roland Hutchinson You know, I think both of you are missing the point here.