It would be great to see your comparison of Thuren vs Carli kits. Thanks for great content!
@RATBURL4 жыл бұрын
Funny I thought you were the same dude without glasses 😂😂😂
@AuslanderRaus14883 жыл бұрын
LMAO SAME
@unixdoes3 жыл бұрын
all white guys look the same
@danrather54733 жыл бұрын
People of every race look the same, especially Chinese!
@Hunter-ex2sw4 жыл бұрын
Gods of the suspension World. Wish you guys were closer to us.
@hauolireeves97384 жыл бұрын
You guys are a wealth of information. I love my Fox Back country kit on my 2019 Ram 3500 Laramie with 20 in. Method NV's & 37 in Toyo MT's! Thanks for the hook up!
@DeLoEnterprises4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel but I can't help but notice that Cody looks like Toby from The Office!
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
You’re not the first to say it!
@leroymoore764 жыл бұрын
i've got over 70000 mile on the 4.5 carli kit that you all install and have been happy since the day i left your place with it. And glad i went with the kings as well as to say man i wish I would of bought the kings to start with. you all sell a a great product and i am a happy customer. thanks again
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@dallasklarenbach26744 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a shock boot help prevent pitting. Put it on both my fox front shocks with no problems up here in Alberta.
@tomdown78544 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome, super informative, honest no BS advice.
@tmusky11343 жыл бұрын
I went with Fox 2.0 shocks and stabilizers on my 2005 Ram and I wish I hadn't. They only lasted 30,000 miles before the seals started failing. Sent them in to be rebuilt and they responded saying it's going to cost more because the shafts are pitted. I told them to just get them done as my truck is just sitting here useless but never again. Will go with King next time.
@spencercupit2 жыл бұрын
finally a summary and not a sales pitch. Much appreciated.
@seanbrown51584 жыл бұрын
I run Thuren tuned King 2.0 shocks and they work great with Thuren coils on my Ram 3500.
@MrKThomas19763 жыл бұрын
Are the king 2.0 re-buildable? And how is the ride compared to fox 2.0 if anyone know’s it’s for a Ram 2500 2018
@loveracing19882 жыл бұрын
@@MrKThomas1976 yes the king 2.0 are rebuild able.
@davidbristow9443 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the quality of y’all’s content. Very informative
@benpitts80734 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these! y'all have been a wealth of knowledge for me being on the east coast and dealing with shops that have never seen this type of suspension
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why we make these videos!
@electri6man3 жыл бұрын
You can also use Ezlynk to adjust tire pressure limits. For those of you that tune your trucks, ezlynk has it built in the system already
@secretsquirrel572 Жыл бұрын
I knew this was an older video when he said high end trucks running $80,000. Those prices are long gone. The King Ranch I want is going to cost me $108,000. That’s horrible. Thanks for the information, guys. You’ve earned my business.
@CJCOffRoad Жыл бұрын
Yeah that comment didn't age well! Crazy how much these new trucks are running.
@coolbeyblade5 Жыл бұрын
My lariat non ultimate is running me $80k 😢
@yantardif23634 жыл бұрын
Coils, track bar, Sway bar ,Fox reservoir, King damper , all by Thuren on my 2016 Cummins dually with 22.5 . 50 psi front 45 psi rear. The ride is killer on the highway. Stiff around town.
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention tire size or type, but my guess would be that you're running commercial tires on a 22.5 wheel set up. Those tires ride horribly and no suspension can ever make up for it sadly. You also have to remember that this suspension is designed to ride nice AND tow. It will never ride like a 1500 truck unless you completely give up your towing ability, so you'll always have some sacrifice. If you still aren't happy though, talk to Thuren about making some changes to your shock tuning!
@yantardif23634 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad Yes commercial tires...but Thuren components made my dually ride wayyyyy better then stock. Highway and towing is perfection. King shocks would probably be better....
@brandonperschon4493 жыл бұрын
Great video. I did exactly what you said and went cheap on a 3.5" spacer and hate my ride. It's coming out ASAP.
@brandonspencer38403 жыл бұрын
I run 37s on my stock 17' Platinum F350 with a basic puck level.
@RD11RT3 жыл бұрын
I’ve learnt so much from this channel today, appreciate all the great and informative videos!! Cheers ~ from 🇦🇺
@GTOAviator4 жыл бұрын
You guys look like brothers. Also thank you for all the videos, seriously so informative.
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
We are! 😂
@northernlightse30664 жыл бұрын
The only thing I've noticed as a downside to Carli with Fox 2.0 is that the expansion joints on the freeway are much more annoying. Do you have experience with these vs King 2.5? Additional info - 4th Gen Ram 2500 crewcab 6' bed. Yes I've heeded the PSI small bump compliance recommendations.
@northernlightse30664 жыл бұрын
I should add that the Carli suspension is much better than stock both on and off the road.
@kylesgeller3 жыл бұрын
I just dropped 5k with you guys can't wait to get it on my 2020 2500!!! wooohoo
@CJCOffRoad3 жыл бұрын
Excited to be a part of your build!
@JasonWaterfalls134 жыл бұрын
Great video and really informative as always! Thank you.
@anan7s2942 жыл бұрын
Looking for suspension setup for Fortuner. Needs in order of preference- 1. Comfort in all kinds of terrain 2. No thuds or sound in cabin 3. On road performance better than stock ones. Any suggestions?
@gustavosantillan48372 жыл бұрын
I would like you to install one of those Cali packages in my 2021 RAM bighorn
@blownbird974 жыл бұрын
Great informative video guys.
@kirkdunn13793 жыл бұрын
Isn't one made in China and other in USA? Its the valving that results in a nice ride vs poor in any shock per application? Maybe do comparison in standard valving between the 2 in OEM series (most will opt for this am gueesing).....obviously both can be altered but just right off shelf comparison....
@chasekasel92583 жыл бұрын
Please do some videos on early second gen systems, i would greatly appreciate it as I’m not sure what I’m going with yet
@josemuniz28784 жыл бұрын
BDS or Carli?? Jk.... Carli always great info guys.
@JustDiesels4 жыл бұрын
Jose Muniz haha I have a feeling BDS may not like the answer for that one 😂
@justinshields42162 жыл бұрын
Cost for rebuild king 2.5 coilovers?
@timothymroberts2949 Жыл бұрын
Great content...very informative
@maida21243 жыл бұрын
Bro you look like Toby from The Office lol great video btw 👌🏼
@adamkeith78933 жыл бұрын
Love your content. Always checking for new stuff and more info. 2 questions : as a "premium shock" why doesn't king use an aluminum body? Do you have any content related to the Excursion?
@ryanpaulsimpson3 жыл бұрын
Bro! My new truck comes in next month looking forward to making the drive up from San Diego and having you guys put a carli system on my 2021 f350
@MrClickclickpow4 жыл бұрын
Excellent content, saving my pennies to bring my Ram 2500 to your shop
@jakeruiz50624 жыл бұрын
You guys use Fox shocks so you can't be to hard, on them. But it's a no brainer man. I have a 4 runner total chaos kit with foxes tripple bypass 2.5 coiloers and bumps and my Chevy have Kings same setup suspension wise heavier truck and hands down. King all the way. I don't mind the foxs. But king Bette ride hands down all the way. Just don't make fox to be better. And I love on so cal and have never had anything happen looks wise to the king's... Hands down better setup also what do the racers race with ? King and some use Fox but you won't get those shocks on the streets those are custom made for racers only. Vs king uses off the shelf what they sell you just times differently.... Those are all true facts. King all the way.
@user-lu1cj2sw2u3 жыл бұрын
Are king coilovers stiff on-road?
@mikeryan6574 жыл бұрын
Excellent job guys!
@medicchester Жыл бұрын
17s and more rubber. Friend of mine.
@frankwolf91873 жыл бұрын
What is difference between Carli and Thurren?
@ppvfd1214 жыл бұрын
Keep it up guys!
@jamesngotts3 жыл бұрын
with the 14+ rams suspension height is not a factor in wheel fit unless you are going past a 37
@toHelluRide4 жыл бұрын
Would I be a fool to buy a diesel for daily driving / commuting and probably never tow?
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. They’re great trucks and comfortable daily drivers. The only catch is that the modern emissions trucks need some highway time with each drive cycle to burn off the soot in the DPF. If you only have a 5 minute city commute, a diesel truck isn’t the best choice.
@leroymoore763 жыл бұрын
wondering when your going to do a video on the new power wagon and the suspension you done to it. just bought a new 2020 power wagon and have your suggestion in mind. thanks
@Jassman35364 жыл бұрын
great vid guys...I always learn something from your channel. My 20 7.3 will be here shortly. I have 37 12.5 20's on my 15 F350 Love the look...I have been wrestling around do I want 35's or 295 65 20's on this new truck or go 37's with a level lift. My question is with the 295 tire being a 35.1 tire x 11.6 wide vs the 37 which is really a 36.5 x12.5...with less mass wont it ride and handle better. Second Q..Any more info on lead time for the gas superduty components vs me having to use the diesel components.
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
If you're debating on tires, always go for the bigger size. I can count the number of customers who downsize on one hand, but almost everyone that goes for a smaller size up front comes back for bigger in the end. That truck will handle 37s just fine! As for lead time, expect about 4 months. This whole COVID-19 thing is going to throw a wrench in the supply chain though.
@cambamb803 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a 2019 Ram 1500 2wd new body style and I plan to put on a 2.5 front leveling kit with 35x12.5 tires on 18x9 wheels! Does anyone have any knowledge as to if this would cause any rubbing? If so what can be done to combat that issue? Also, will I absolutely need to purchase new control arms? And why? (First time truck buyer & first time dealing with large wheels/tires and any type of leveling kit)
@RucaMad3 жыл бұрын
I have a 19 Ram 1500 4WD, and also have 35" tires on a 18x9 Rim. The tires will fit and only minor plastic trimming is required. New UCAs are mainly required if you lift beyond 3" in the front. New UCAs are a benefit for better angles if you can afford them, but not necessary at 2.5".
@michaelsimpson06143 жыл бұрын
I have a 6 inch fabtec suspension on a 2015 2500 chevy. Can i run fox shocks on rhe front with this suspension
@brianhamilton92412 жыл бұрын
Would you invest in these shocks for an 06 Ram?
@islanderson6914 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the great vids. I have a 2017 f450 and I tow a 20k 5th wheel all over the country what would be a good shock replacement from the factory rancho shocks?
@lawrence45734 жыл бұрын
Very Informative!
@JavierHernandez-ru6sr3 жыл бұрын
Idk if I should spend the extra $1600 to get both front and rear king shocks. For my 7 inch lift. I paid for the fox ones but my guy said if I want these it’ll be that much more. What would you do
@23prophet2 жыл бұрын
What about 35s for the ram?
@chrisarevalo7744 жыл бұрын
whats gonna be the issue if I go 20x10, 4.75 backspace and -19 offset with 35x12.5 on a 2018 Ram 2500 with Thuren 2.75 lift
@07negative564 жыл бұрын
With all these brilliant people stuffing 35-40” tires on these vehicles. Are any of them putting in the correct ring & pinion ?
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Up to the customer! These trucks do quite well given how much torque they have. Turning and stopping a 37” tire is nothing for a truck designed to be towing around 20k.
@ranger17523 жыл бұрын
you guys are awesome!
@deanieweenie1164 жыл бұрын
I see Carli has a 3.25 in Lift for the 3500 Air-Assist trucks. This kit is just too much for what I want to do with the truck. I would be extremely interested in just a leveling kit for my 2018 3500 Air-Assist SRW. Something along the lines of; Front Coils, Trackbar, Sway bar, Radius Arm drop brackets, tuned Fox 2.0's all around and then for the rear, I would be more than satisfied with just a block for the airbag and a block for the leaf pack.
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
That kit would work fine! We typically recommend either the lower height Thuren front coils for that, or the Thuren air adjust rods in the rear to get that level height. Give us a call and we’ll get you set up!
@deanieweenie1164 жыл бұрын
Awesome news! I just want that smoother ride. Only thing that is concerning to me is, I know the Kings in your kit are tuned for the air suspension, maybe fox 2.0s can be tuned for air as well?
@amolinari94 жыл бұрын
Damn why have I been buying 80 psi tires for so many years?! I never fully air them up usually keep they around 65psi for the road but airing up after going offroad takes a while. Should I switch to D range tires instead of load E? I don’t tow with my trail rig either.
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
The only thing to pay attention to is the load rating in actual pounds per tire. If that meets your needs then you’re good!
@amolinari94 жыл бұрын
CJC Off Road my truck only weighs 5000lbs and each of my tires has a 3100lb capacity lol
@gamerm0kang604 жыл бұрын
Love the Q&A session where you are just shooting from the hip. Heres a question that might fit a future episode. I have a bone stock 2017 F350... i have a set of 17” methods that i have owned since i picked it up but just now considering suspension and tires. I tow a 10k toy hauler to go kart tracks all over the PNW (lots of towing hill and mountain passes). Whats your general recommendation regarding lift&tire size for guys that tow like me?
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Since you tow, you can either do a 35, or re-gear for 37s. As for suspension, a Carli level or a 4.5” system with the Carli LT bags would be perfect. We’ll address that topic in a future Q&A though because it’s a common situation!
@gamerm0kang604 жыл бұрын
CJC Off Road thanks for the reply! Appreciate the insights and looking forward to watching more content & possibly buying some goodies from you guys. 👍
@kellyhill24104 жыл бұрын
I have 37x13.50r17 tires on my 18 ram and I can’t go all the way to lock without rubbing on the radius arms
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
That means your wheel specs are off. What wheels are you running?
@kellyhill24104 жыл бұрын
17” method standards
@Pendragon69608 Жыл бұрын
Just use some grease every 4k miles rub that shit on exposed metals my uncle used to do that with his old cars and they have literally no rust on Frame at all only his panels are getting surface rust cuz needs paint but grease can be a good friend as long u don’t mind dust sticking to it lol
@CarlosMartinez-qn4em4 жыл бұрын
If I want to run 20in wheels on 37s on my 2018 f250 leveling kit do I need to re gear ⚙️.
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Totally depends on how you use the truck! 99% of our customers don’t re-gear.
@jamesngotts3 жыл бұрын
can you buy shock boots for the fox shocks? Also question about steering stabilizers, is the Fox TS an IFP stabilizer like the ATS?
@CJCOffRoad3 жыл бұрын
You can, and it it’s a through shaft IFP stabilizer. The difference is that the ATS has adjustable damping while the TS does not.
@MrSportsphoto4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys have on the same Rolex watch?
@JJMassar4 жыл бұрын
Don’t hate on the fuel additives! This ULSD sucks! Lol But I do agree. My Carli suspension is the best thing I’ve ever done to my 2013 F250!
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
My comment was not meant to say that diesel additives don't have their place. However, if you can justify the cost of those, you can justify a good ride!
@JJMassar4 жыл бұрын
CJC Off Road I 100% agree with you on that!
@gckbuck4 жыл бұрын
Could you guys please answer this question, are there fox shocks that have a nitrogen filled canister like a dirtbike shock that you can adjust for soft or hardness of ride and rate of rebound?
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
All the fox shocks are nitrogen charged, but you can’t use that to adjust them. We promise that thanks to Carli’s custom tuning, you will have zero need for changing anything.
@derekponce36533 жыл бұрын
Any trimming needed on 20x9 +1 with 35x12.5r20 on my Ram 2019 3500 ?
@CJCOffRoad3 жыл бұрын
You should be able to do that just fine!
@TheChicagOP4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel, you guys should do more vids on cutting for diff offsets and 40s ik it's a hella specific vid but it'd be nice
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
We made that exact video for Ford trucks! Give it a watch!
@TheChicagOP4 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad oh shit I only buy Rams but I will check it out haha
@Sdukes001 Жыл бұрын
Why do my toyo mts pull to the right on my 2015 ram 3500?
@CJCOffRoad Жыл бұрын
That's actually normal for Toyo MTs as the tread design causes a right pull. Give this video a watch for an explanation and solution: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7qio5ScyLXOemw.html
@Sdukes001 Жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad thank you dual stabilizer it is
@aprilhattaway67904 жыл бұрын
I have a 06 dodge mega cab with 5.9 and I’m interested in the 6” lift but on the fence whether the long arm or radius arm. One question is what about traction bars in the back? Do you run those?
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
We never run traction bars since they defeat the articulation and ride quality improvement that the performance leaf springs give. We’ve got plenty of customers running high power on Carli or Thuren leaf springs without issue! As for the arms, the 6” carli systems require the Carli radius arms, so that makes the choice easy!
@aprilhattaway67904 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks then I’ll be contacting you guys for my lift very soon.
@toledobendadventures57474 жыл бұрын
What is the best track bar for my 2018 Ram 2500? I have the bilstein 2.5 coil lift with 37” Toyo RT on 17” black rhino arsenal with +12 offset. By the way the ride is awesome!
@seanbrown51584 жыл бұрын
Toledo Bend Adventures MG - Carli hands down. I run Thuren coils and shocks but went with Carli’s track bar on my 2018 Ram 3500.
@toledobendadventures57474 жыл бұрын
Sean Brown appreciate the info!
@azrzr54403 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for towing a 5th wheel 37/12.50R20 Or 37/13.50R20 on a ram 2500
@CJCOffRoad3 жыл бұрын
Whichever tire meets the load requirements of what you’re pulling!
@azrzr54403 жыл бұрын
Both do but not sure what would be better for towing a 15k toy hauler that’s loaded dry it’s 10k but just want to know if it will be squirmy with the 13.5 when towing
@donkelley324 жыл бұрын
So I have a 2012 ram 2500, 4"lift in it with 20x12 wheels -44 offset with 35x12.5 ridge graps. Rides like a wagon. How can I fix the ride? I dont want it higher if that's possible?
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Your best bet is to swap out that lift for a 3” Carli or Thuren set up, and then change your wheels and tires so you have more sidewall. A 20” wheel with a 37” tire still has a great modern look, but will ride night and day better!
@donkelley324 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad the tires only have like 6k miles on them. Lol I will most likely be calling next spring for the parts. I live in alabama and look forward to getting it. Just ordered a bunch of Harley parts and canf di the lift this year.
@waterbuddy924 жыл бұрын
phenominal info guys....thanks!
@jackkennedy91733 жыл бұрын
Why are you against spacers?
@CJCOffRoad3 жыл бұрын
Wheel spacers or suspension spacers?
@brentdeweese10563 жыл бұрын
Fox makes a 2.5 as well offering 2.5 coils, seems you only mention 2.0 🤔
@loveracing19883 жыл бұрын
True but neither thuren or king offer custom tuning with them
@joseramos74763 жыл бұрын
Ram 2500 mega hemi carli suspension?
@CJCOffRoad3 жыл бұрын
Yep, they make it!
@joseramos74763 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad great, thanks
@michaelmadrigal48093 жыл бұрын
How do you like BDS suspension?
@CJCOffRoad3 жыл бұрын
We can sell anything on the market, but we sell Carli and Thuren because those are the two suspension systems that make for happy customers!
@michaelmadrigal48093 жыл бұрын
I looked them up and didn't see any kits for my truck.... the thuren have a shock system but not a full kit.... I don't know enough to build my own kit
@mileseichholtz76984 жыл бұрын
You brought up tire pressure... My OCD goes apeshit with lights being on in the cluster and my 18 ram 2500 requires 80 psi in the rear... The dealership won't handle it. How do I get it changed?
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
You can use Alpha OBD or the AEV ProCal to change the threshold. 👍
@seanhunts19393 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad protune mm3 from dirty diesel. gain tons of hp an set tire size and tpms
@wheelinndealin4 жыл бұрын
Are you guys brothers?
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@hakenkreuz70762 жыл бұрын
Why in the hell would king use steal bodies when other big brands use aluminum bodies which is better for heat anyway last thing I want to do with $4,000 shocks is watch them rust
@CJCOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
Aluminum bodies can’t take the heat that steel bodies can. If you’re actually out using these trucks in the desert, steel bodies are the only way to get it done!
@CrazyGreek803 жыл бұрын
LMFAO!! You paid 80k for a truck why not spend on a good suspension.
@terryosowski81434 жыл бұрын
So why doesn’t King go to Aluminum body ? Common sense.
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Because aluminum bodies aren’t as durable in high heat situations. King uses the bodies they use for a reason, it’s no accident.
@terryosowski81434 жыл бұрын
CJC Off Road Great answer makes sense. Then couldn’t they make the finish more durable ? I’ve been waiting for Fox 2.5 now after that answer may switch to King.
@415jokr Жыл бұрын
Why not compare the King 2.5s to Fox 2.5s lmao.
@CJCOffRoad Жыл бұрын
Realistically they're the same performance wise. Both are top level brands, so what matters is the tuning inside. An untuned shock isn't going to ride well at all, so having something like these Carli custom spec and tuned King shocks is what matters, and Carli simply chose to work with King since they were willing to do the custom tweaks to length, pistons and shim tuning that Carli needed.
@JOHNWAYNE19204 жыл бұрын
Maintenance wouldn't be required if they'd just make the body aluminum or stainless. Companies can't make an entire truck out of aluminum or stainless, it's a stupid analogy. For what King shocks cost there is zero excuse for using cheap steal. Call it like it is.
@CJCOffRoad4 жыл бұрын
Actually maintenance is the exact reason that King uses a steel body. An aluminum body doesn't hold up as well as a steel shock body to the heat and wear generated in thousands of miles of heavy off road use. King has the option to use any material they want, but they choose steel because of its strength and wear resistance in punishing off road conditions.
@JOHNWAYNE19204 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad I'm certainly no expert on shocks but they do use aluminum in space shuttles, engine blocks, heads, wheels, etc etc. I can't help but feel it goes back to cost. Otherwise all else being equal stainless would be the obvious choice. Then it becomes a question of buying a name vs. Quality. I have no problem paying top price but I want the best built, not the most popular name. Irony is I was sold on your king set up before this video but now I'm leaning towards the fox. I clearly need to do more research. At least with carli you know they use nothing but the best and that's why they are worth the price.
@JOHNWAYNE19204 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad decision made. Fox. Quality is in the details. accutuneoffroad.com/articles/fox-vs-king-2-0-coilover-shock-comparison/