NEW Wilson CB 2024 Staff Irons Forgiveness Review

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5 ай бұрын

NEW Wilson CB 2024 Staff Irons Forgiveness Review and also compared at different Swing Speeds. This is the Perfect Blend with the Staff Model Blades, the NEW DynaPwr Forged Irons or just to have a full set on its own. A near perfect balance of Looks, Feel, Performance and Forgiveness.
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@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Greetings ALL, place your Comments and Questions below and I'll do my Best to answer as many as I can 👍

@seegarsmkr 4 ай бұрын

Jay, I asked this question in error on the previous CB irons. How would you compare these WS CB 2024 to the Miz JPX 923 Tours in looks, feel, forgiveness and stats?

@johnatchley9754 Ай бұрын

I’ll say it again, your tests at three different swing speeds and with strikes in different places on the face are absolutely the best by anyone anywhere. They are genuinely useful and helpful for golfers of all skill levels and ages. I will be 83 this month, have played for over 62 years, have a 17.5 GHIN handicap index I am working to bring down, and play forged blades with a 34 degree 7 iron. My swing speed with the 7 was measured with Trackman exactly three years ago at 74.8, ball speed 100.6, smash factor 1.34, launch 22.9, peak 81 feet, spin 5370, landing angle 46.3, carry 137.3, total 146.4. That was my best shot with perfect strike. Now I only have access to an overhead Foresight GC Hawk monitor that doesn’t show club speed. However I estimate my club speed is now down a bit, from 70 to 72 based on dividing ball speed by an estimated smash factor. Admittedly guesswork. But it means your 70 mph swing speed test is the ONLY one out there that enables me to really understand how a given new iron might work for me, at least without paying for a fitting. And your emphasis on descent angle has really helped focus my practicing on what it takes to stop on the green. So just a huge thank you all the way from Rockville, Maryland just outside of Washington DC.

@AskGolfNut Ай бұрын

Thank you John for such a kind and detailed comment. It's such a lot of work doing the reviews how I do and it's always nice to hear positive feedback. The beauty with golf is that you can still play throughout life and although the body stops us from playing like we used to, with the help of technology and handicap we can all continue to enjoy it way past the age where other sports have to be stopped. Thank you again for the kind comment 👍🏻👍🏻

@lesmoore7613 5 ай бұрын

another bang on review.... love your detail....

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Thanks very much for the kind feedback 👍🏻

@nikmc7539 4 ай бұрын

Great irons!!! People just need to play them and HEAR about them! Thanks for videos like this! Wilson, do some advertising!!! These irons should be in the convo with top 4 manufacturers

@Area51Inhabitant 5 ай бұрын

Great to see newer irons without jacked up lofts.

@davidgolfer 4 ай бұрын

Good stuff... I game the '22 Wilson CB's... love them!

@AskGolfNut 4 ай бұрын

I think I may well do a video about blending the perfect Wilson setup.... 🤔👍🏻👍🏻

@albertofernandez-sanguino3373 5 ай бұрын

Gorgeous clubs!! Am a user of the previous model.... FG Tour V6... simply the best irons have ever used. Will be staying in the bag for many, many years

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Good choice and as long as the grooves hold up they will last some time 👍

@GRIFF22 5 ай бұрын

@@AskGolfNutOn that subject, try the Groovex sharpener, fantastic tool.

@paulmcgee1867 5 ай бұрын

I have those too, really nice but a bit too pro for me

@333brooky 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Jay Please continue showing the 70mph swing speed results for us slow boats!

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Just need more people to view it to allow me to justify the extra time and workload doing it. I really like giving more unique information for all golfers but it does take quite a long time to collate and also process in editing, so try and share the channel etc as much as possible 👍👍👍

@zazhou 5 ай бұрын

@@AskGolfNutperhaps minimise/reduce the number of shots and off centre shots but still be able to derive accurate enough results for true analysis?

@blackheart7886 5 ай бұрын

I have the old version and LOVE IT.

@dkonno18 3 ай бұрын

Same!

@neildeal248 5 ай бұрын

If I didn’t recently purchase Mizuno irons I would definitely be looking at these

@paulbown3960 5 ай бұрын

Can't wait to test them. They will face some tough competition though.

@davidm7031 5 ай бұрын

Great review👍🏻 Like the old CB’s you reviewed, these performed great. I do prefer the look of the old ones though.

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Grab some while you can then as they will reside on ebay only very soon 👍🏻

@davidlewisTN 5 ай бұрын

Looks like a great iron. Giving it a close look 👀

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

On balance of everything, one of the best on the market. 👍

@tylercoull6025 5 ай бұрын

I just picked up the previous model of the cbs end of last season they feel as good as anything out there I swing my 7 irons about 82-85 mph get a roll out to about 170 yards on a 7 iron that’s all I need

@JDDD33 5 ай бұрын

What made you go for runout CBs and not runout D9 Forged ?

@nathanriggle3261 9 күн бұрын

I play the 2024 CB’s. Great Irons!

@AskGolfNut 9 күн бұрын

Absolutely are, when I reviewed them (video on my channel listing) they brought all the good parts from the previous model with the new updated look. Surprisingly forgiving for a relatively small iron and has the benefit of being one of the nicest feeling irons on the market 👍🏻

@RunFreeRyan 5 ай бұрын

Oh it looks soooo much better! They took away the plastic looking cap on the toe. That is what turned me off of the CB. Unfortunately I ended up going with the Titleist T100 2021 model. And I usually keep my irons for at least a decade before I get a new set 😅

@jayfangRSA 5 ай бұрын

I tested the prior version. Great iron, loved it - just a bit scary for me in blade length and on mid-his. Wish I was confidently good enough

@MrMatthew262 2 ай бұрын

They made the blade length a bit longer on these new ones.

@petemajor4454 5 ай бұрын

Look forward to a comparison with Miz 243😎

@KartBoyz 3 ай бұрын

Blueprint S vs 243 vs WS CBs. Mind choosing 1 to play 1 to sit on the shelf and 1 to get rid of what would it be.

@lkae4 5 ай бұрын

I love forged cavity back irons. They are the gold standard for regular golfers IMO. Would be interesting to see how forgiveness compares to MP 243, T150 and ZX7.

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Can do all of the above except for T150, Titleist still haven't come back to me even after repeated attempts at contact. I think I may actually do a separate video asking for all watching if they in any way have access to a member within Titleist HQ 🤷🤷

@lkae4 5 ай бұрын

@@AskGolfNut Sorry about that. I went with MP 243 after Titleist refused to build T150 1 1/4" long at D8. I guess Titleist has fallen off in many areas. It's a shame.

@miken2686 8 күн бұрын

Just bought a brand new set of the previous iteration CB's in my spec for $499 shipped. It's an absolute steal. Hit them side by side with the '24 model and the difference in feel is imperceptible to me and I'd bet to most anyone who's not darn near scratch. Cheaper than Takomo, Maltby, Hogan, the new Vice sets, and countless other nice DTC's, but none of those are close to quality of these irons. Some may argue otherwise and to each their own, but I humbly disagree. Wilson Staff irons feel like pure class. I've hit many of the aforementioned DTC's including the Takomo 301CB's, and they're nice, but not like the Wilsons. Not close, actually. I was in PXG 0311P's, Gen 2, and was concerned that the MUCH smaller heads of the Staff CB's wouldn't work for me. I'm a former 2 hcp (long ago) currently carrying a 9.7, which means I can post a 76 or a 92 on any given day, and need a bit of help. I flushed these all day. Not sure why or how. When I was off center or a groove or 2 low the CB's offered surprising forgiveness and weren't as harsh as expected. Moral of the story - if you're in the market for a high quality iron set and want to save a few bucks, there are opportunities out there for under $500 to consider. I suspect these would work for just about anyone below a 15-18 handicap & below.

@jestr102763 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. Been waiting for this one. Not sure how much you remember but would you say these are better or more on par with the last gen cb irons. I remember you kind of praising the forgiveness of the last gen being a cb.

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

They won't move the needle far too be honest, it's more of a push in the direction that Wilson would like to go in 👍🏻

@AndrewLane-pm2ro 3 ай бұрын

From 6-Pw, these will do me just fine. 👍 Not too pricey, either.

@allahalibaba9063 5 ай бұрын

Jay, I love the review, and the new Wilson Irons, but I think that the Wilson Logo with out the WS in red looks empty some how...Thanks...

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Wilson are a pretty good listener to feedback, if they get enough constructive feedback to return the badge back to what it was, they might listen 👍 I personally don't mind too much either way.

@lawbinson 5 ай бұрын

Big fan of the looks of these. You mentioned blending these with the MB. Does it make sense to blend these with the D9 Forged or Dynapower Forged?

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely and possibly could be done with relative ease 👍

@MikeHarrison-zm3jd Ай бұрын

Thoughts in strengthening the lofts on these a couple degrees, to pick up a bit of yardage but keep the forgiveness?

@joebartman8609 5 ай бұрын

Would love a comparison of these to the JPX 923 Tour. I got fit into either one yesterday and I'm struggling to pick! I like the blade length of the Wilson CB so much and it handles my toe miss really well.

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like a part of you has already decided which one 😉😉😊

@dbo4506 29 күн бұрын

I’ve gamed the Wilson v6 then the CB and will probably game these ones as well or the staff blades. The two Wilson sets I got I went in with no budget wanting to spend a packet and get some mizuno or Titliest and walked out with Wilson’s both times. The second time I specifically wanted to avoid Wilson just because I reallllly wanted mizunos. But I couldn’t do it. Price aside the Wilson’s had better feel then take into account they are absurdly cheaper then any other brand. It’s actually a no brainer.

@brettlarsen3893 5 ай бұрын

Great vid Jay!! Is it too early to request a Wilson CB v Mizuno 923 comparison? 🙏

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Not at all 🙂

@brettlarsen3893 5 ай бұрын

TY Sir

@mikebrugman9784 5 ай бұрын

Any chance you would do a comparison between the last gen and the new gen? Would be quite interesting. I have the old and hit the new but would love to see what you get.

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

I'll be honest and say I'd be flabbergasted if there's any difference at all. If there are then the performance gains will be minor 👍🏻

@nathananderson2718 2 ай бұрын

I would assume these are very similar (if not identical) to the 2021 model, and i will say that those clubs tell you how good or bad you hit a shot with very little penalty for mishits. Thin shots lose very little carry and roll out more, while toe shots are only losing you ~5% yardage. Heel shots tend to go close to full distance, but that hosel will get you on any sort of bad heel shot, so they definitely favor a toe miss

@normansykes8872 5 ай бұрын

The Dynapower Forged iron is coming out soon. Hopefully you will be able to review that one too.

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

It's literally next to be done. 👍🏻

@paulmcgee1867 5 ай бұрын

Hopefully not too large a head

@JDDD33 5 ай бұрын

lofts of dynapower are too strong. I think the 7iron is 27 degrees ! That's where the old D9 forged are perfect. Same lofts as the p790

@cp3allday28 3 ай бұрын

@@JDDD33 7 iron is 30.5

@markcampbell1708 5 ай бұрын

Hi Jay, great review. Am seriously considering these with a similar blend to you. One key benefit to Mizuno for me is that I have a 1/2 longer club fit normally and they offer a lighter head to offset the increase in swing weight. Do you know if Wilson do the same?

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

I'm fairly certain that they can attempt to match swingweight, even if its a small butt weight under the grip. 👍

@markcampbell1708 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Jay 👍

@MrMatthew262 2 ай бұрын

Would love to see you do these against a players iron with tech like a cobra tour or t150.

@AskGolfNut 2 ай бұрын

Cobra Tour vs Wilson CB would be a great compare 👍🏻

@coreyvanular6195 Ай бұрын

I play the Wilson v6 still

@AskGolfNut Ай бұрын

If its not broke, don't fix it 👍

@andersdannstedt5825 5 ай бұрын

I have set of blades, Wilson Fg-51, ( not playing these ) still around. The loft of the 7 iron is 38° compared to the 34° of the Wilson CB and the 28° of the Callaway AI smoke. This of course affects the carry lengths, but does that mater? Somewhere the gap stops and you need 6 wedges. Is this a good development? I heard that it was Ping that started this rage when delofting their irons and telling everyone how long their irons were. Even with a slower swing speed and not playing for money, would you not rather have good looking, chrome, iron such as the CB? The handicap system takes care of the score.

@ddream1313 5 ай бұрын

To a degree, the carry length does matter. When you have a 7 iron that you can hit the length of a 5 iron you now have an advantage. It's easier to hit the 7 than the 5 especially for the average golfer. The only people who have the problem with gap in the bottom of the bag are us higher swing speed players

@MG-ro7nl 5 ай бұрын

I am considering these, mizuno 243, or the Titleist t150 for my next set of irons. Any thoughts on forgivness between the 3? I would think with all the tungsten, t150 would have the edge. Thanks!

@palosonic 5 ай бұрын

What a great question! 👌🏻 Eager to read the answer...

@kevinpack1454 5 ай бұрын

Would these be more "Players" targeted vs. the old D9 Forged?

@lawbinson 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@jasonwinslow3543 5 ай бұрын

These seem like a solid iron to transition to from something like P770? I average 87MPH SS with 6 iron. I'll definitely give them a shot when they land in my local pro shop.

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

You have good speed, so defo would give these a go 👍

@redsuctionboot2597 5 ай бұрын

I would love to get some Wilson clubs but from what I have seen over the years, there's no option for no upcharge Nippon shafts. I don't want to spend more money to get them reshafted..that's why I stay with Ping/Mizuno/TM...

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

The custom fitting side and the added upcharge items are the only downside, I'm lucky that i'm not bothered by shaft but I can imagine how frustrating it could be to some golfers requiring the upcharge costs...

@arnovda9479 3 ай бұрын

Forgiveness isn't just about mishits but also turf interaction. The sole seems wider than a blade but not nearly as wide as a D9 forged/T100. Have you tested these on grass & do you think these would be comparable?

@AskGolfNut 3 ай бұрын

So you raise a very interesting and valid point about ground interaction and from a forgiveness standpoint it's ground first then ball scenario. Let's take a Dynapower Forged for example, where we have the middle of the road (bounce 5 degrees and 4 degrees in a Blade for 7 iron). If golfer regularly look to deloft into impact, otherwise known as shaft lean, then again commonly the deloft will or at least may completely neutralise any bounce design. In true terms, bounce is rarely used unless you have golfers adding loft at impaft and casting heavily, and hitting the ground first. I those cases hopefully they are seeking lesson go rectify, and in those cases by far, dynamic lie has more effect on contact and ground interaction than bounce 👍🏻👍🏻 Thanks very much for the comment, shows great analytical thought 👍🏻👍🏻

@MrMatthew262 2 ай бұрын

Funny how you would compare d9 forged/T100. Two totally different irons. But these Wilson’s actually have a nice generous sole shape for a CB. Wider than a t100.

@abstractavltd.9571 5 ай бұрын

They look wicked but I think the blade length might be too small for me, I played the d9 forged and now the PXG 0317T which seem the same length but bigger than the these staff cb’s (I think at least)

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

It would be great to test what your actual spray pattern is on the face with differing blade length irons and if you actually group your strikes better with a smaller head to focus on............. 👍

@abstractavltd.9571 5 ай бұрын

@@AskGolfNut that’s a really good idea! As I struggled with my PXG gen6 XP, went for miles but direction was a problem out the toe and heel, strike was not consistent, I’ll get some spray so I can test👍👍👍👍👍👍

@dkonno18 3 ай бұрын

I play the old CB’s and I like the shorter blade length. I feel like it also helps get through the rough better, which unfortunately I find quite often. 😂

@MrMatthew262 2 ай бұрын

0317t is going to be about the same size here

@GRIFF22 5 ай бұрын

Jay do they have a more forgiving model incoming to replace the D9 forged. I can see the D9 forged have been discounted by many retailers. I'd love to game these but I'd need something a bit more forgiving in the 5 iron.

@ryanvelasco9571 5 ай бұрын

Dynapower Forged

@JDDD33 5 ай бұрын

@@ryanvelasco9571lofts of dynapower are too strong. I think the 7iron is 27 degrees ! That's where the old D9 forged are perfect. Same lofts as the p790

@dkonno18 3 ай бұрын

@@JDDD33It’s 30.5 degrees

@MrMatthew262 2 ай бұрын

The main thing against these are the high gloss chrome. You misshit once on the toe and it’s got scratches all over it.

@home4ya 5 ай бұрын

LOVE to see this vs i230 vs Blueprint S ? Im done to those 3....opinions? #1 need some help when miss the center, 2 feel & sound....3. all 3 look sweet so tie there. Im 80-82mph w 7iron w most misses little high toe?

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

All of these would be great options, the biggest win you could have isn't actually the pick between the marginal differences between each of them, but moving your miss from high toe to vertically lower toe, middle toe out even low toe would be preferable. High toe means you are impacting the ground before the ball and this party alone has the biggest effect on your misses 👍🏻👍🏻

@home4ya 5 ай бұрын

Working on maintaining spine angle tru impact but old habits hard to break😮

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Very true, but depending on what compensations if any you are making due to your spin angles would be interesting see how much of your current variance is, due to spin angle retention 🤔👍🏻👍🏻

@ermangus 5 ай бұрын

How would compare this directly against the Apex CB, 243, Blueprint S?

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

Apex CB and Blueprint S yes they would be a good compare, the 243 however is a tech packed players cavity so may have an unfair advantage in certain areas. 👍

@kentmilbrandt3989 3 ай бұрын

Most golf clubs have become so expensive golf play will become a game more potential players will ignore.

@AskGolfNut 3 ай бұрын

On that I absolutely can't disagree with you... 👍

@v205 4 ай бұрын

Are they bigger than the MB? Reviewers need to compare the CB vs MB in the lounge irons like 3 or 4 iron.

@AskGolfNut 4 ай бұрын

Hi there, this would be very much determined by the available clubs to test at the time of filming, the kind content they are making and the time duration of the video. I think there is plenty of scope to do multiple look backs at original reviews adding to it so may well do one in the future looking at the long irons.... Although the long irons nowadays are a bit of a dying breed... 👍🏻

@sherwiny89 5 ай бұрын

What is the MOI of the 6 iron?

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

I haven't got any firm measured numbers but due to loft it would be slightly less than that of the 7 iron 👍🏻

@sherwiny89 4 ай бұрын

What is the MOI of the CB 6 iron?

@AskGolfNut 4 ай бұрын

Hi, I'm sure someone within the engineering and design department at Wilson Golf will know, but those types of technical data points aren't widely known or given out to media and normally kept for internal knowledge only 👍🏻

@AskGolfNut 4 ай бұрын

May I ask, why specifically the 6 iron? And also without knowing what the MOI number is for the rest of the set or even the adjacent iron say the 7 for example, how would knowing the MOI number of the 6 help? 👍🏻 👍🏻

@ellipsis9573 3 ай бұрын

Zx7 or wilson CB? I am coming from wilson staff fg f5.

@MrMatthew262 2 ай бұрын

Wilson cb. These are friendly to hit and no goofy v sole

@ellipsis9573 2 ай бұрын

@@MrMatthew262 i got the zx7. They are amazing.

@michaelgarden6554 19 күн бұрын

Why don't more people that give them rave reviews bag them? It's confusing. Most reviewers aren't great but good at golf. They won't bag them but wonder why others don't as well.

@AskGolfNut 19 күн бұрын

You can only bag one set of irons so when it comes to the many really good sets of clubs out there, unfortunately we can only ever use one set at a time 👍🏻

@darrenbell6376 5 ай бұрын

Jay i play the d9 forged but am wanting to try a softer more traditional loft. I'm off 5.5 age 54, do you think these are more forgiving than the model blade you tried. I want similar distance to the d9 forged or would you wait to try the dynapower forged when they arrive. I am a very accurate ball striker by the way and like a players distance club

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

The better the ball striker the less they need to consider the forgiveness, and more so how the irons work. These are fractionally higher peak heights like for like and also a touch more helpful that the blades when the odd shot goes south. These can be bent in loft as well to suit any certain gapping issues 👍

@JDDD33 5 ай бұрын

Lofts of dynapower are likely going to be too strong. I think the 7iron is 27 degrees ! That's where the old D9 forged are perfect. Same lofts as the p790. If you want similar distance to your d9 forged, the CBs are weaker lofted and the dynapowers are stronger lofted.. D9 forged are the mid point sweetspot IMO

@AskGolfNut 5 ай бұрын

The new Dynapower Forged loft is set around 30.5 degrees for a 7 iron if I recall correctly. Full video review coming Tuesday 👍🏻