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@thomasstambaugh51812 ай бұрын
This otherwise excellent piece omits arguably the most important "To do" -- exercise a RESTORE at least once. Backing up is just half of the solution -- the other half is restoring from backup. In my five decades of industry experience, I can assure you that the most rigorous backup strategies in the world are a colossal waste of time if RESTORE doesn't work. This can be challenging in itself, because it is often difficult to find a safe place to perform the restore. If it's at all possible, the gold standard is to restore to a completely different machine. The rub is that image backup, in particular, typically wants to replace whatever executables, registry settings, and so on are on the target machine. This can create all sorts of issues when restoring to a well-functioning system. Restoring to a different machine is often problematic unless the new machine is exactly the same as the machine that was imaged. One common scenario when a backup is needed is after a failed system update. The rub is that the target system is now in an unknown state, and the target system may not be able to even access never mind run the restore utility. You'll end up needing bootable media and -- especially in the Windows worlds -- this can quickly get VERY complicated. It is often easy to do even more harm to an already broken system by improperly booting from a "restore" media. This gets particularly dicey when the restore media wants to "adjust" partitions, with various flavors of "secure" settings in the BIOS, with encrypted media, and so on. My own imperfect approach is to run my Windows 10 Pro system on a "guest VM" running on the underlying iron. I run Rocky Linux on a robust and recent pedestal machine and I use VirtualBox (for Linux) to host my Windows 10 Pro guest VM. The advantage of this is that I can shutdown the guest VM and use Linux tools (I use rsync) to make a complete copy of the entire guest VM from a command shell in Linux. I store these copies on a different Linux file server. I'll resist the temptation to open the Pandora's Box of Windows vs Linux networking. I can't tell you how many times various of my clients and employers have spent days or weeks and enormous amounts of money successfully restoring from those rigorously maintained backups. A roomful of backups doesn't help if the media has failed (external drives do fail!), if the restore software is unable to get needed access to the target machine, if passwords and keys have changed, etc., etc., etc. The bottom line is that backing up is just half of the solution -- backing up is useless unless the corresponding restore is known to work and is usable by you.
@bikeny2 ай бұрын
I couldn't have said it better. I remember when I was working at a small bank here in NYC and we had to test our disaster recovery (there was no business continuity process at the time) procedures and the site itself. We call up Iron Mountain to tell them to send a given night's backup tapes (9-track reel-to-reel) to our hot site in Parsippany NJ (that was the DEC site). And of course we called DEC there to set up the testing date. In the course of the day, we'd be lucky if all the restore procedures got us to a decent point before we had to leave. But, hey, we tested them. And the regulatory agencies were happy.
@Milesco2 ай бұрын
_"Backing up is useless the corresponding restore is known to work and is usable by you."_ Not to nitpick, but I think the word "unless" is missing there, between "useless" and "the corresponding restore..." 😊
@thomasstambaugh51812 ай бұрын
@@Milesco : Indeed -- good catch. Corrected.
@Milesco2 ай бұрын
@@thomasstambaugh5181 👍 😁
@allananderson58402 ай бұрын
Very true!! There needs to be an honest discussion of the "scenarios" where you'd restore from backup. It could be a few files, thousands of files, a non-windows drive, the windows drive. Caused by a hardware fail with new and different hardware, the "same" hardware, or a completely new PC with lots of different hardware. Or a virus/malware situation where... how do you determine which backup is "safe"? That could be very complicated. For a business, what if there's a need for a criminal or other forensic investigation where evidence needs to be preserved? Just thinking a bit about this helps even the home PC user understand what's involved. Some case examples would be interesting. Exploring what you said about the windows boot process is where I realized I don't know enough about this to navigate restore situations. It doesn't seem to be easy to find out about either.
@MarcoRomero-v4u4 күн бұрын
Great content! For MSPs like us, the right tech stack is vital. We've found our groove with solid backup tools and a BDR strategy, a robust RMM, top-notch cybersecurity, and Thirdlane Multi Tenant PBX for our clients' VoIP needs. This is our recipe for success. Thanks for video!
@renoholland70902 ай бұрын
I use Macrium Reflect to make backups of my system drive to an external- and a portable drive. I use Backup4All to backup data to the external drive, the portable drive and OneDrive. So I have 4 copies of each file in 4 different locations. Frequently I test the backup and restore a few files. And when I leave my home for a longer time I take the portable drive with me. Luckily I haven't lost a single file in over 25 years.
@kersi-sandiego60362 ай бұрын
Reminder: If using the cloud option, don't forget to encrypt your data.
@HarnessedGnat2 күн бұрын
More important is to simultaneously have tight key management processes, but be able to access those keys regardless of the disaster that causes a restore attempt. Encryption can lock you out, and cloud providers are very clear in their terms how locked out you will be.
@synen2 ай бұрын
Im concerned about privacy and security when using cloud the way you suggest.
@ralfbaechle15 күн бұрын
Only store encrypted data in the cloud. Your cloud provider will hate you because that ruins their chances at deduplication - but no pity :) For Linux I can recommend Borg which is free and good. There is an inofficial Windows version available. Borg is a command line program. The graphical frontend Vorta is available for Windows.
@xKoMox2 ай бұрын
Nice one Leo, thanks a ton for breaking down backup strategies so clearly. Your video confirmed I’m on track with image and data backups, and the three-two-one rule. Feeling way more confident about keeping my data safe now!
@cppctek2 ай бұрын
Backup your backup. I also like ssd or nvme storage for backups. Spinny boy drives both internal and external have much higher failure rates and also way slower transfer times as well so if you want to backup and restore files quicker and safer get solid state storage if you can
@D.von.N2 ай бұрын
yes, just SSDs don't have the same longevity as HDDs. They are fast, but with age their failure rate is worse.
@grahamclarke1934Ай бұрын
I like that you put the 'click on' on the left-hand panel so I can write them down (stopping the videos if I have to) as trying to remember the sequence of them would men having to go back and forth on the video. Best computer info videos I have seen on you tube. Thank you.
@askleonotenboomАй бұрын
Note that all these videos point to a companion article that has the same information, written.
@grahamclarke193411 күн бұрын
@@askleonotenboom Thank you for replying.
@francosilvestri1232 ай бұрын
I have bought a WD Elements 8TB external drive and I backup copy with robocopy everything there. Plus I plan to make images backup of my OS there too.
@thethinkingman-2 ай бұрын
i take NO chances. I backup my data on a 8GB usb flash drive every month or 2 and I also take photos of data I really need
@Nofanboyz2 ай бұрын
I use: - rsync - Luckybackup - Pika backup - Timeshift (set to include /home and all user data)
@TheCynysterMindАй бұрын
While this advise is good as far as it is... (Just back up your stuff... figure out which is best for you BUT BACK UP YOUR STUFF) I will disagree about the methods in this video. The old style of incremental backups I think no longer match the way that most people use their computer. Most people have either become somewhat experts in how a computer functions or they are completely oblivious. The traditional backups I think do not serve the vast majority of computer users. What tends to work best is for people to put all their files on a 2nd hard drive (whether internal or external) The connect yet another external hard drive to your computer once a week and SYNC the two drives and then put that drive in a fire safe. What this does... is separate your files from the computer... and if your computer crashes you can just plug the other drive into a new computer. No wasted time constantly backing up and zero time restoring. Now the recommended method of backups is the 3,2,1 rule.... but just getting in the habit of backing up is the hardest hurtle to most. I do mine once a week while having Sunday morning coffee.
@bme7491Ай бұрын
I've been using Paragon's Hard Disk Manager software for years to do backups. Never had a problem restoring when needed.
@glasslinger2 ай бұрын
Acronis Perfect Image works but is VERY confusing to use!
@Joseph1NJ20 күн бұрын
This video has little to do with the title! You didn't cover backup software at all.
@terry_willis8 күн бұрын
Yeah, I noticed that too. AND he did mention TodoUS which I tried when I heard Macrium was changing. I found it unworkable. I'm now using Aomei which seems OK.
@S1721422301497 сағат бұрын
Good. Thanks for the heads up.
@Joseph1NJ6 сағат бұрын
@@terry_willis EaseUS also works well, and it's free.
@jaseman15 күн бұрын
At home, I do a full backup every season (Winter, Spring, Summer, Autumn) - so I have 4 copies of my data over the year. Those get overwritten each year. Potentially I could lose 3 months worth of data in a disaster situation. I'm willing to accept that as a loss - but at least I won't lose everything. This has never happened to me thus far. I do my backups manually. Since all my data is stored in VHDX files (Virtual Hard Drives) it is easy for me to just copy and paste those to external hard drives. My VHDX files are encrypted with a bitlocker password. So if someone got hold of one of my external backup drives - they won't be able to access the data without having the password. It is worth considering that making backups causes wear and tear on your storage devices (Including SSDs) - you are in massively increasing read/write operations by backing everything up. With that in mind it's important to replace those external hard drives every so often - since those external drives only get used once every year they should last a while - but you have to keep in mind they could fail at any time unexpectedly. I would suggest that replacing them every 4 years would be a good idea. Since I have 4 backups - I can spread the cost of this by just replacing the oldest external drive once a year.
@dannid.8115Ай бұрын
What is the best free backup folder (not image) software? Freefilesync? Syncbackup? Robosync? Why? What strategy to backup thousands of ebook?
@bleakyfinder26922 ай бұрын
i have always used for FREE Disk Genius. Excellent Software.
@MMAInTheDarkАй бұрын
For image backups?
@poorplayer924910 күн бұрын
I only just found your channel the other day. After watching a few vids I subbed in because to paraphrase, you don't know what you don't know. I'm retired, and never needed to use a computer for work to begin with. Is image back up to an external storage drive _enough_ for those like me, or is there a hybrid of sorts? Re size: ~ 75% of my 1T SSD is used. Maybe a third of that is games. However, once you own a game, on Steam or Epic anyway, you can uninstall it from your machine if you need space lets say, and then reinstall later if needs be. So, if I understood you correctly, 4X for me would be a 2T ext. drive. Yes? TIA.
@powerpc603717 күн бұрын
I'm just using the copy/paste tools within windows to make my backups. no additional software required as you just manually copy files.
@petrafied2 ай бұрын
If you use a Western Digital USB drive for image backup, do not encrypt it with WD Discovery. The unlock app is only 32bit and you will not be able to use it for a restore to a 64bit machine. This issue applies to Windows PE 64-bit.
@stevenvanhulle72422 ай бұрын
32-bit programs don't run on 64-bit machines??? Since when?
@petrafied2 ай бұрын
@@stevenvanhulle7242 There is no 32bit support in Windows PE which is used for backup restore by Macrium Reflect.
@petrafied2 ай бұрын
@@stevenvanhulle7242 Windows PE 64-bit does not run 32-bit programs.
@vh99602 ай бұрын
EaseUS Todo Backup is the product of EaseUS, a software company headquartered in China.
@peterwassmuth40142 ай бұрын
Awesome Thank you for Sharing 💯✴
@michaelmcchesney664512 күн бұрын
Three days to finish an initial backup? My initial backup with Backblaze took roughly six weeks. My C drive is a 500 GB SSD, but my main PC also has three spinning rust hard drives with 6TB, 8TB, and 10TB of capacity. For $189, Backblaze gives me two years of unlimited-size backups. Granted, the initial backup took quite a while, but now that it's done, keeping it up to date is a breeze. Given how much data I am backing up, I consider that a bargain. I no longer feel guilty for not having fully backed up my data.
@MihaiKrieger8 күн бұрын
I've learnt this the hard way, but back in 2005, when I lost some unique pictures. But I was 14 back then, how could I've known. 😢
@bikeny2 ай бұрын
Leo, I have always thought that the OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox were all synch applications, not backup applications. If you delete a file from one of those spots, does it not get deleted from your computer as well? I use a cloud backup product (which I won't name as I don't want any concerns about being a shill for them) that I have run every night for my 3 systems and my Android phone. The data goes to their cloud system. And yes I have a bunch of my google drive files tagged to be in the backup job. From my perspective, that's 2 different locations. Am I missing something with regards to my understanding of this process? Thanks.
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
No, you are correct. OneDrive et al are great PARTS of a backup system, but by themselves they are not a backup. If your hard disk goes belly up, your files are still in the cloud (and other machines). Your work in progress is being copied to those locations in real time. Some have online recycle bins to recover recent versions for "a while". But they are not a replacement for a true backup solution.
@chaosordeal294Ай бұрын
For Google Drive, it depends on how you set it up, and I believe most other services work the same way. I don't map my Google Drive, because that could, theoretically, open my cloud files to viruses and ransomware. They have an API, but it's byzantine. I have an automated job that opens the correct folders and webpages when it concludes, and prompts me to do my own drag-and-drop. Little tasks like this help me break up my day, so I don't mind it, but in a corporate setting I would use the API (shudder).
@Zendukai2 ай бұрын
I use a back up drive on the computer I want everything on that. Then I use SyncBack Pro to copy this drive to 3 external drives. I set SyncBack Pro to Mirror the drive to the external 3 drives, If I delete something off the internal drive, this will delete the file from the external drives. 1 lesson taught me to have more than 1 external backup when both the internal and the external drives crashed... nasty!!! Thanks Leo.
@mafilalo2 ай бұрын
I have a Lenovo P511 PC. It has windows 10, and can't have windows 11. I bought the new ThinkStation P5 Workstation. I need to transfer all my apps and settings to the new machine. So I did a backup image of my P511. If I restore this backup image on my new P5, i believe it will replace Windows 11 that it came with, with Windows 10. What should I do please as I want my new PC to run Windows 11 but keep the apps and settings I had on my old PC. Thank you.
@hassanmaje58492 ай бұрын
Just some thoughts on technology: considering the internet connectivity is an offending variable, can't cloud backup solutions be configured to backup from could ecosystems - Google, Microsoft - directly and then they (the cloud backup solution) only pick up the files and folders that are local on the PC (this can be defined by the user) and exclude anything on the PC that is in sync with Google, Microsoft, etc ecosystems - Google Drive, OneDrive etc. By this way the cloud backup solution is backing up user's cloud data directly from the cloud (,i.e. cloud to cloud) which forms bulk of our stuff these days and only picks up stuff for backup from user's PC that is local. It would be faster that way, wouldn't it.
@bernardlisowski13732 ай бұрын
leo just ran windows 10 ( 7? )backup. I walked away, don't know if ended properly, because I did not get message that it did end successfully. Is there a way to check like easy do?
@erojohn216 күн бұрын
I have a WD ssd external that I use for backup. When I try to delete backups that are no longer needed it tells me I do not have permission. I was running low on available space. So I had to reformat the drive to free up space. That seems like a pain. It also defeats the purpose of keeping 3 months worth of backups. WD provided acronis software with the drive.
@askleonotenboom16 күн бұрын
Try deleting from within Acronis. They may have a form of ransomware protection that locks the backups from being deleted or changed.
@erojohn216 күн бұрын
@@askleonotenboom thank you thank you. I did as you said. I did run the acronis as administrator first and was able to find cleanup backup versions. I’m used to file explorer to delete things this choice was a little harder to find. Great name Leo my father’s also.
@saniltalaulikar2 ай бұрын
@askleonotenboom I have multiple people working on the same set of files/folders shared from a one drive account. They often delete stuff which others need. I am able to restore stuff from recycle bin, but would prefer to do a image backup + incremental daily backups to another one drive account or some other place(preferably cloud). What kind of a solution would u recommend for the same?
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
Image backups are typically too lartge for the cloud (or rather, the internet connection to upload to the cloud). I don't have a great solution, other than periodically copying your OneDrive account with some kind of a scheduled script or batch file.
@bernardlisowski13732 ай бұрын
reran manually the windowsbackup, my backup drive did not indicate a new file. The previous backup did not show any file modification. no 2nd message indicating that the backup worked successfully. again the index of c did not show any updates.
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
You should be able to find the backup image on the drive you backed up TO. (You may need to enable viewing hidden files.)
@franciscohorna55422 ай бұрын
i just put things on external hdd 4tb wd elements drive
@elderberry-hamster2 ай бұрын
Agreed but worries about ransomware. 😬
@franciscohorna55422 ай бұрын
@@elderberry-hamster simply dont click on anything suspicous and all good here
@zetectic79682 ай бұрын
@@elderberry-hamster Only plug in the external drive when you backup then disconnect.
@brianh.418516 күн бұрын
Macrium Reflect. Period.
@chrissimpson11832 ай бұрын
I use personal backup...
@siamakghandian2 ай бұрын
When I backed up how to bring it back when I need it.
@myoldmate2 ай бұрын
Me too. It's a f**king mystery.
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
That depends on the backup software you choose to use. ALL of them have restore functions. For example, EaseUS Todo: askleo.com/restoring-image-using-easeus-todo/
@cbbcbb68032 ай бұрын
Does Easeus ToDo run from within Windows? I keep my data on a usb external drive. So I would be backing up an external data drive to an external data drive. Image backups are not good at recognizing windows drive letters. They, for this reason, are nerve-wracking.
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
Yes EaseUS works in Windows 11.
@TheRetroEngine2 ай бұрын
I've found that backup software only backsup physical files on the drive and not cloud only files with a pointer on your drive.
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
That is correct. Backup software is PC backup software. You need to make sure your cloud files are downloaded to a PC regularly (usually simply by using their sync app), and then backing up THAT PC will back up all.
@TheRetroEngine2 ай бұрын
@@askleonotenboom thank you
@siamakghandian2 ай бұрын
I wish you would show step by step to do image backup
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
I have SO MANY articles and videos on the topic. A little searching can go a long way. This has links to many of them: askleo.com/how-to-back-up-windows-10/
@siamakghandian2 ай бұрын
Can I image backup to google drive or OneDrive?
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
Yes and no. Yes it's technically possible, no image backups are so large as for the upload to take forever and thus be impractical.
@thesongmuse19 күн бұрын
I HATE computers... especially having to set up a NEW one!!!! When you say to download a software (ON A DEVICE OTHER than the one you're trying to let up), that first step ALONE is confusing for someone who does not know the inner-workings of computers. So, I have this external hard drive, a new computer and now there's something else I need to do FIRST, I cannot even get into my new computer to tell it NOT to connect to the internet because I'm so afraid I'll choose wrong "set up as a new PC" or "Restore from a PC" - I don't know what to tell it! Do you have any videos for brand new machines and ALL the questions they ask you, etc? 😱😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@siamakghandian2 ай бұрын
Where to look for this backup file?
@myoldmate2 ай бұрын
Excellent question, which never gets answered. Us non tech savvy folks can not find a simple explanation as to how.
@askleonotenboom2 ай бұрын
On the hard disk you told the backup program to place it on.
@chrissimpson11832 ай бұрын
Backup, backup, backup...
@JimE62432 ай бұрын
👍👍 JimE
@bernardlisowski13732 ай бұрын
file:///C:/Windows/Logs/WindowsBackup/ had no date , to see if it worked properly