"There aren't tanks with god complexes" Spoken like a main tank.

On the aggro thing: It's not a matter of pulling aggro, it's a matter of generating aggro before the tank has a chance to hit everything. So if you have stragglers, bring them to the tank so they get cleaved up good and you're all fine.

For those who don't know, Asmon is right in what he said, but didn't understand what Jocat was talking about. Once a tank has Aggro, he's never going to lose it so long as he's doing the slightest amount of damage. What Jocat was talking about was Pre-healing, so for example giving a tank a regen. The moment mobs come into aggro range of the tank, before he's had a chance to hit them, the regen ping will generate aggro on the healer, making them target the healer and moving out of position early. This can make pulls messier if you don't know about it, or don't prepare for it. By sticking with the tank when they're getting the pulls set up, you make this not be an issue. If however you're miles away from the tank, often a mob or two might run past the tank, and put the healer in danger, and makes the whole pull a lot messier.

"I played solitaire with tarot cards, 8 people died" - random quote I heard somewhere.

"There are no tanks with god complexes" ~ The Literal God

Concise and accurate. One of the things I found the funniest about healing is how much the mentality changes. When I first picked up healer my thought was 'I must keep my tank and party 100% and immaculate at all times' and later it evolved into 'how long can I ignore these people before they die'.

The meme of Asmon saying this game is easy and the healer sweating his ass off is fucking killing me hahahaha

"The healer was fine!" The Healer saw you with 5 stacks of THE WORST SHIT and did a real life limit break to keep you up The fruits are there fir a reason

When you start a pull, you will not be in AoE range. If healer puts a passive healing spell on you like regen, the mobs will instantly target the healer. The point he was trying to make is so that there is less headaches in doing pulls, healers should stick to the tank so the tank will have an easier time grabbing any mobs you happen to not hit the first time around. And this WILL eventually happen, slip up happens sometimes, whether it's from mobs moving unexpectedly fast or they are just too spread out.

As someone with actual Anxiety issues when you start healer it can be rough but after is as lot of fun and you can obliterate with Holy forever...also when he said he had five vulnerability stacks I actually started to shake because I had to heal someone with six until I rescued him in a fruit patch and screamed FRUUUUUUIT!!! Was funny and I let the next person who tried that died until they said sorry...am justified because the Summoner agreed and waited too.

As someone whose bad experiences in game primarily come from dealing with tanks whose egos are bigger than their oversized weapons, let me tell you that there are indeed tanks with god complexes.

Okay but where's the crap part of the guide? This Guide is unironically 100% accurate.

asmon be like - havent been wrong in any of my dungeons. Healers in his dungeon - not using HOT's - Him: not pulling more than one pack.

Me: *Caps the tank off* "Cool, now I can DPS." The Tank: "Oooh yeah sorry, I spammed ALL my mitigation skills and they worn off, now I'm more fragile then a teenager with self diagnosed PTSD." Me: "...But I want to DPS..." The Tank: "Look at my HP go! From 80% to 20%! This next soft breeze might end me, BETTER HEAL!"

"I don't have a god complex, I am just a god." Asmongold probably

As a healer, I'm closer to perpetual panic than god complex 😂

"DPS is just mitigating future damage" this is gold XD

"If you're pulling aggro off of the tank in this game, it's because your tank sucks" They're talking about the initial pull. Slow server ticks + Long GCDs = sometimes finicky pulls, made all the more annoying if someone immediately pulls threat as you grab the first guy in a pack.

Tanking is very easy until savage. Aoe pulls are fine but all tanks have a long range pull ability which you start to use on single targets. Healers who heal early or cast regen pre pull are the only reason tanks lost aggro. Keeping aggro is one of the easiest things in this game.

As a long time player of ff14, I can say that guide is extremely accurate.

4:33 this is actually completely correct when you start to reach heavensward and stormblood, sometimes the mobs are too fast for your next gcd to align and end up zooming past you onto the healer during down time.

Asmon is wrong about initial aggro, Regen is very good at early pull aggro snatching. Which is why I always do as this man says, I stay with with tank

Jocats videos are so damn good

“Tanks don’t have god complexes.” ME: 🤦‍♀️ Keep telling yourself that boyo.

“DPSing is just mitigating future damage” So what you’re saying is that Holy is a defensive spell.

“There’s no tanks with god complexes; There’s just god-mode tanks” Absolutely Incredible ✨

I’m a max level WHM. I ended up with a tank the other day on the Temple of the Fist who refused to pull more than one mob at a time. He was max level too. He said “I’m the tank, and you follow me. I will pull what I want. I’m the leader.” I was pretty much sitting in my chair passing out because I never had to heal more than putting a regen on him. I was basically an extra dps.

He likes to poke fun at Scholar but it used to dominate DPS while also healing. Scholar was OP as fuck and is a shade of it's former glory.

Asmongold, unlike WoW, FFXIV allows for a pretty severe amount of UI customization without any adds. My suggestion is to check that out.

"main tanks dont have god complexes, they just know what needs to be done" - main tank

If I remember correctly Jocat also already did a crap guide to tanking.

it's not because the tank sucks that a healer gets aggro, it's because in this case, Jocat is saying if you run up to a pull with regens rolling the tank simply can't get aggro, even with an AoE pull. but if you stay near the tank they CAN easily pull the aggro back with a second AoE.

In later dungeons when you're expected to pull wall to wall, it is possible to lose the enemies if the dps go too hard. Also, healers definitely do pull aggro initially just because their HoT pulls the enemies before you even get to hit. You just have to intercept the mobs.

"I've been playing this game for like a week now, I've never lost aggro" you also have triple legends queue with you into every fight but you know... details

Asmon, 4:27 he says if you start healing BEFORE pulls then stick to the tank. That will get you aggrieved before the tank hits the mobs and while gathering packs tanks usually use one aoe per pack and even a regen will be enough to pull the mobs off unless they get hit again. Hence staying on the tank so he can hit them again without stopping to chase them.

Look at this tank player defending his kin

I want asmond to react to a 2 parts of noclip's ff14 documentary.. That would be interesting to see..

As a white mage main, I highly recommend giving healers a try! Worth the effort!

Asmon plays the game for a week and now he’s an expert.

6:10 How the hell do you get 16 stacks of Vuln and NOT die?

he say's pulling with aoe is obvious - I've rocked up to lvl50 dungeons and had tanks under the impression that all they need to do is engage tank stance and jog past enemies to grab aggro. It was a long fight

"Main tanks do not have god complexes" ok main tank

Here's the thing, at your level it doesn't really affect healers all that much, but in later levels when AoE HoTs become a thing and people do like to cast those pre-pull, the enmity generated far exceeds that of a tank and DPS, to the point that new/additional waves of enemies will target the healer by default. This is why the healer should stick close to the tank so they can grab off the healer with one or two casts of their AoE attack.

You always open with your gap closer (if available) or your ranged skill. By the time the mobs reach you you should be off GCD and can AoE or go into your rots depending on number of mobs

The aggro thing, as a healer I had to realize that if I pop a regen before the tank pulls, the enmity generated is worth 2 gcd’s of the tank if done pre pull

Later on if the healer is healing between pulls, the agro generated makes very awkward for the tank to gather the mobs. Suddenly you'll have a long train of things charging at your backline.

With heals pulling aggro... it's unfortunately true. Long story short: Ran Satasha dungeon with my guild leader who tanked. I was the healer. Guild leader pulled the whole first room without telling me... so I started to heal once his HP hit like the lower 10% even though he was still pulling trash mobs. Mobs overran me, we wiped. He told me to wait until he stands still but seemed to have forgotten that a Lv18 healer got no Benediction skill (100% HP heal) or similar yet. We all know how that try ended :)

Jo-Crap and Asmonbald: the Crossover we didn't ask for but never knew we needed

Main tanks 100% have god complex issues. Do not deny.

They're cards, yes, but Tarot is pretty steeped in tradition. The cards themselves are always constant. The Judge, the Justice, the Fool, etc, they're the same in pretty much all Tarot decks and each have individual meanings depending on whether they're drawn rightside up or inverted. The METHOD of reading tends to differ however, but usually the order in which the cards are drawn correspond to a particular aspect of your life. Even if you don't actually believe in it, I can say from experience that it's still kinda fun to just do a reading now and again. There ARE those people that say screwing with Tarot is like fucking with a Ouja board, however. Does that mean I should stop? ... ... nah, fuck em.

"Crystal Data Center" welp guess I'm making another character

Debuffs are hard to find and see huh? Nobody has told him he can change the size of the buffs, debuffs and the cast bars of both himself and enemy yet have they?

If healers and tanks were the most important roles, there'd be more of them in a party than DPS.

I remember doing more dmg than the damage dealers with a healer. I was flamed for it. Nobody in the party died during the raid. But they were still mad.

I'll admit I was a bit worried with what you would think coming into this game. Seeing this video and hearing your reactions. I'm proud of ya man and I hope your mental physical health is all good! Welcome to ffxiv!

When a white mage doesn't aoe in dungeons it is the biggest offense. Their aoe stuns. Imagine refusing to let your tank take 0 damage for 7s or so while making sure he takes damage for 10 less seconds from the HP you depleted off the enemies.

It’s not tanks with god complexes it’s players I’ve met DPS with god complexes who immediately start making demands of the tanks and healers

4:34 - 5:40 making an ass moment out of himself by not listening to what the video is telling.

3:35: Yeah... there's actually a far end to this spectrum (the "Glare Mage" going "Glare" and never healing), but Healers doing DPS is still key, even early on, and super key later in the game as well.

I always DPS and tried Healing for the first time ever and holy shit...I've never sweated so much lmao.

asmon saying - if you pull aggro off the tank your tank sucks, is so cringe.... HOTs on pull, ALWAYS fuck up the pulls. Because it forces you to slow down or stop pulling the whole room you want to nuke down....

He won't piss on astrologian anymore when he can get a 8% dps buff every 30 seconds in theory when the stars align. xD

Asmon, when he says you will get aggro as healer he means if you put regen on the tank before he pulls, all enemies that the tank doesnt immediately tag will aggro to the healer until the tank tags them. Luckily the tank only has to tag them to get aggro back, but in that time, since aggro goes on server ticks, the healer can take a couple auto attacks from the enemy and they will also begin to run toward the healer until tagged by the tank and taken off of them. The reason the healer would want to stay near the tank during this is because the tank is likely pulling more packs of adds and will be running further into the dungeon and if you dont follow them, the adds will just hang out with you in the back attacking you. If you bring the adds you still have to the tank, it makes it much easier for the tank to tag them with aoe since they will already be aoe’ing the adds the already have, and once they tag those ones you brought to them as healer, youre all good. After the tank tags enemies, the healer cant really steal aggro from the tank at all. Its just about the initial pull for trash pulls that it really affects. So for instance, if you put regen on tank and they run into 3 enemies and tomahawk one of the enemies, the other two will default aggro to healer until tagged, while if the healer doesnt regen the tank before pull, the other two will default to the tank until someone else hits it. In that case tank still wants to tag them before the dps hit them otherwise dps will aggro until you tag em as tank, but if you tag them first then they stay on you as long as youre attacking. In other words, tank always needs to make sure to tag everything that is pulled and keep attacking to keep aggro and thats about it. Also a quick trick to pull 3 adds while still moving and very efficiently, if you tomahawk (or whatever other tank ranged aggro grabber skill you have based on tank youre playing) one enemy, then target the next one and provoke, then target the last one and tomahawk again, you grab all three enemies in the span of two gcds, since provoke is an ogcd. This trick is especially good if all three adds are spread out too far to just quickly aoe them to grab them.

No, as a healing main, Astro specifically, if you cast a HOT, or cast a cure after the mob sees you but before the tank can touch them, you get angry. Not the tanks fault, it’s your as the heals

Asmon... tarot cards have been around since the 1300s lol....

Good god I never thought I would see Shen in and Asmagold video.

I hadn't played tank since my long-retired EQ1 paladin. I started as a paladin when I played WoW, but my alt-mage took over and became my main at the start of BC. I started FFXIV almost 3 years ago as GLA/PLD and it's been my main class the whole time. What I tell new players (I've one of those mentor crowns, AND I'm an omnicrafter :D) is that "You will know when your taking journey is complete, when you feel that the only tank you can absolutely trust... is yourself." I haven't done nearly enough savage/ex content to have a full god complex. :D

As a tank main you do feel like the main character and the leader of the party. Everyone waits for you to go in first and aggro all the mobs. Your right in the bosses face, and you get most most of the heals. Everybody else kind of feels like your support, and back up dancers. Im a pretty humble person, but playing tank is awesome becuase it does feel like the whole party revolves around you, or is just following behind you.

I main a healer..... i would be happy to do more dps... thats if you can ever get the actual dps to stop standing in the bad all the dam time

Someone should recommend Asmon to watch Lynx Kameli's new Advanced Tanking Guide at some point. I mean, not like he needs it because he's obviously tank god... But it does go over how overhealing affects aggro generation and other helpful positioning/gameplay tips.

reminds me of one time i was partying with a group, figured "tanks on half hp, it'll regen before the next pull so this'll be- wait where's the tank?" to see they were currently in the middle of an 8-person pull, actively dying, i'm mid-cast on a heal, and we wiped.

3:50 I've been a healer Main for years now. I've always been the dps healing type. Granted, I remember when cleric's dance was a thing. That was a really fun skill to play around. Here is a quote of what it used to do before the change in SB and the removal in ShB. Btw I mained sch and loved all the dots we had. They let me dps and heal at the same time (the fairies also did that.) "Cleric Stance is a cross-class-skill obtained by Conjurer at level 6, which lets you swap your MND stats with INT, and enhance your magic attacks by 10% while reducing healing spells by 20%. Whoever played healer before either heard of it as a must have, or can see the high benefits of that skill right away." Back then I used to get aggro from the tank constantly due to my damage and healing getting a bunch of enmity. Lucid dreams removing aggro wasn't really a thing back then.

As a guy who mains Pally in FF14 I have to agree, 99% of the time Tank Stance + AOE = Aggro. Even if you do lose aggro you have the tools to get it back.

The guy who made the crap guide is wrong because I've been playing for a week and I know better. - Asmonbronze

You misheard him, he said that the healer is most likely to have the god complex because they can decide who lives or dies.

“Anyone who’s a omnicrafter” Me: *stares off into the distance remembering every sentence that began with “hey can you make me”*

Hey azmon, if you want to collect all the mounts that you can in the game, you will have to play all the classes, because there is a mount locked behind having all battle classes to max lvl

I need this game

4:35. Incorrect sir. Healing, even passive healing through regen generates emnity (aggro). So if a tank is running up to pull aggro ALL those ads will aggro onto the healer initially until the tank gets off their aoe skill to take the aggro. Now, if aggro gets ripped by the healer/dps after the tank already has aggro? yes they suck and it means they aren't even hitting the boss. When Stormblood was released they made tanking so easy a monkey could do it as long as you have your tank stance on.

That healer in Aurum was a beast...and you gave the commend to half naked dps lol

Also with asmon playing dnd with others someone needs to tell him to react to jocats crap guide to dnd videos.

Im addicted now because of Asmon.

"I haven't lost aggro after playing for 2 weeks now". Fire 4 is about to be this mans new curse word.

Losing aggro is raids was a thing before shadowbringers as tanks wouldn't use tank stance due to losing so much dps. Healers that did over heal could possibly get aggro, but dps that did damage also could as well which is why skills like shadewalker was there back then. Shirk was also a big skill people used (still used). Like some people mentioned in mob pulls if there's a hot the enemies not hit right away will generate to the healer if you aren't able to aoe right away which can happen if you are pull with provoke which will usually bring them all to you so you can aoe.

He was saying healer was behind the main tank in importance, not that main tanks have a god complex

When I heal in wow I do dps, holy paladins have burst, idk if they still do in 9.1 but in 9.0 I did Hella dmg

You have your UI set up or incorrectly, you can change it and adjust where your debuffs and buffs go

DPS is just mitigated future damage.... That is simultaneously genius and hilarious.

I feel nice knowing that as a healer without me the party is fucked :)

I can’t wait till asmon pulls iwth regen on.

and me, as a scholar lvl 50 stuck in ARR hears that I should focus on healing as the tank got down from lack of healing to my defense: it was hard to tell if he makes a full pull or just take the first group and take it it's hard to figure out what for skills you use then

My brother used to play a priest in WoW, and he had a saying for PvP: “It’s just you, me, and my infinite hit points”

As a healer, I let my friend die when he was a tank in a dungeon because why not.

Asmon would LOVE FFXIV's expectation of healers to do pewpews as a cultural norm. Also video: 'This is not a serious guide' Actual content: 'This is good advice'

"I don't have a god complex, I just think I'm just deity adjacent" - Asmongold on being Main Tank Oh - you silly silly comedy guy.

Me as a WHM-Main - DMG is life, DMG is love. What is dead, you do not have to heal. Also: A Holy-spam is suffering for large enemie grps because of stun AND your teammates - it is so satisfying to hear the screams of your party while their eyes are melting...

Why does he move his eyebrows so much?

"If you're pulling aggro off of the tank in this game it's because your tank sucks"... let me educate you a little Asmon, when someone else grabs aggro on an enemy before you can, and then they stop dead, the enemies have a tendency to run straight past you to that person, the window you have to actually hit them before they're out of range of your attack as they run past you is EXTREMELY small. You wouldn't know anything about this though, since you go through dungeons at a snail's pace.... once you get higher in levels and the rest of the group is pushing you to go faster by constantly running ahead of you (and they will, cause you're slow as far as this game goes), you're gonna have a bad time, enjoy. Change your attitude about tanking on this game, cause it's wrong, the entire dungeon goes a million times smoother if people besides the tank don't pull mobs, it's that simple.

The aurum vale meme is so hilarious. Exactly how I feel when tanks don’t eat the fruits.

If you're having trouble seeing the debuffs you have, you can change the HUD layout to where you'll have an easier time checking them