all of that money wasted from buying gold

@@marlowsmith615 he won 6250 dollar and mosy likely got alot of gold from supporters

@@nedbear1970 he said he did all this off stream and completely in the dark and he spent all his gold on this.

Common Blizzard

@@AngelosRitter well all the secret resistance build stuff but he still leveled and did a bunch of other shit on stream

new to WoW, what does this mean?

@@TehRealRyan he was not only making sure to be geared to beat his opponents, **he was making sure they couldn't be geared to beat him** through trade

9:15 :)

@@TehRealRyan Ziqo casts a lot of frost spells, so people being able to buy frost resistance gear could help his competition. So Ziqo simply made fewer frost resist rings available to them.

@@DOSdaze thanks mate!

Also he got the biggest gold donation.. I mean passion

he had more passion dedication and commitment to winning 50k, i doubt its to the game...but i mean when compared to a random designer wookie, yeah ur probably right

@@timf6626 Lol, you must be one of those people who think they could beat him if only you had a flask, too. GTFO XD

He was also playing for $100k USD

@@AbendscheinLGN but that is only possible because hes put so much free time and effort into becoming good enough to participate in a tournament where the prize 50-100k USD.

Only a true warrior puts this much dedication into his fights gotta love it😂❤

i just dont understand why they dont test this with the wow client beforehand. you can have a local version of wow run on your pc and just assign items to you and try it out. why spend 100+hours to test something when you can just be a GM offline and try shit out in minutes...

@@youbetu18 Because they are not official clients (with official servers). Private servers have a whole slew of their own issues and the resist thing might even work differently.

All that and the Sres didn’t even work. So sad. Imagine if he knew that it wouldn’t work and he had all that time to come up with a different plan. Not sure what plan but he’s Ziqo.

@@youbetu18 that's not how that works at all

hhhh

If everyone that entered the tournament got free carries/groups whenever they wanted and had unlimited gold i'd say it would have been more interesting

@@wallapeewell, you’re wrong …

​@@wallapee high profile tournament, you'll have a name for yourself, and will have helpers. It's the fucking same in sports, football players have coach's and people that donate money so they can focus on THE GAME. This is high level.

A shadow resist flask 😂

@@thedubdoctor ok champ, explain how im wrong

Ziqo could turn his monitor off and still beat me

This is the respect they deserve though. Not these people saying they only won coz of gold ffs

Yup. Same thing in EVE. Player skill (and 110% effort) destroys any stat.

Nah bro. totally streamer advantage. Ziqo / Snuts are trash players. give me their accounts and i'd wipe the floor with them with my hands behind my back and whilst blind folded! 😃

@@briomhar5229 oh shit is it THE briomhar5229 ? damn, yeah you would wipe them easy. not everyone can be a briomhar5229. big fan!

little sad your average joe couldn't compete, even if you were as skilled, the streamer bennies were way to out of hand, everyone in the finals had thousands of G gifted to them, mats and consumables. I hope the next tounrey is a solo self found only, with a debuff that enforces SSF so we can have an actually fair tourney for everyone

@@haqu123321 the average joe wouldnt have won anyway do you think any random player can win Pshero Ziqo or Snutz if it was pure skill ? sure dude

I wonder why he didn't still try to sheep and melee the pet. I wonder if that would have worked. He had all the AP still.

Love how people always invoke this random joe who is a god at the game but can only play one hour a day. My dude all insane players have ways to gear and get what they need. The best players are the ones that have always been among the best. There's no hidden talent being kept away because streamer privilage.@@haqu123321

​@@IomtuuI think what they mean is that they didn't even have a chance to compete because there were basically jobless individuals that were being boosted by multiple other characters. Nobody with normal jobs would be able to compete, let alone even try to fight in the duels

Yeah mad respect for ziqo using RMT to pay off a top guild to give him 2-3k gold and a power level boost and get carried through dungeons. Impressive stuff.

Yeah, the game would be so much better without Blizzard

One of the reasons Blizzard gave for not wanting to release classic initially was that there would be a lot of bugs that would probably not get fixed and that retail was a much more polished game

@@XirevWoW This was not a bug though. Don't believe everything a streamer says. He was uninformed, and thats why he lost. If he knew how warlock worked in classic, he would have never chosen mage for a 1v1 tournament where you can use anything.

@@ninehills42 with ur absurd logic and room temperature iq take everyone should've chosen warlock

@@ninehills42 I’m responding to people saying it’s Blizzards fault this happened, but they specifically said this was going to happen when they were hesitant on releasing it. Bug or counterintuitive interaction, it’s part of what Classic is, a game that was still growing

Definitely would have been a historical moment, at the pinnacle of a huge duel to the death tournament. Robbed of his win by Blizzard's clown code. JUSTICE FOR ZIQO!!!

Chill wow is dead game for boomers ain't no way wow will ever make best world gaming moments ever again

@@nekissx8123Dead? After almost 20 years it's still in the top most played MMOs in 2023. There is literally no other that would even come close.

​@bencze465 people play garbage so it doesn't matter, gaming died after the ps2

​@@kirerunte1046reality disagrees 😂😂

a lot of them were wearing resistance gear, they showed before every duel

And most that had it just dropped like a stone vs the Shadow priests, that is why they just face tanked melee with resist gear, but ran from others in normal dmg.

blizzard and storages

touche my friend... touche lol@@AngelosRitter

asmon and sweaty losers

Working entirely as intended. Players misunderstanding and misremembering how things worked in vanilla and blaming it on bugs, name a better combo.

Blizzard management and breast milk ....

I ran a gnome warlock in vanilla.... He had over a year of in game played time lol... Succubus was good for melee classes, the hound was where it was at for casters.... That spell lock if landed during a cast was broken AF... And then you add in howl of terror, fear and death coil and you can CC most classes while dots do the work with occasional nightfall proc 😂

Yeah you barely saw anything get resisted by the lock now that you think about it. That on top of being incredibly tanky, heals and a pet that removes people buffs.. yeah warlock is broken

Resistance is not bugged, people just don't understand how it works because in 2004 no one could get under the hood. Everything discussed in the video as a "bug" is entirely working as intended and as it was back in the day. non-damaging spells get resisted extremely well, which damaging spells don't because it's not resistance its HIT. It's an attack table, much like a melee one. Spell School Resistance DOES NOT AFFECT spell damage hits. (and spell hit doesn't affect spell resistance, that's why spell pen exists.) Because some spells like Mana Burn are wonky and include a damage portion as well as what most players would call a non-damaging function, it's more a situation of what the spell was coded as, and it's clearly coded as a damaging spell. The simple fact of the matter is that dot based classes get a lot of benefit since their damage is dealt over time, since spell damage is based entirely on time. Dots have more protection because they are unrealized gains that can be removed and dispelled before their damage is dealt.

not only warlocks are strong as hell , snutz is way too good at the game its like insanely hard to win against i remember old days on retail trying to learn playing warlocks from snutz i couldn't keep up he was way too good playing affli keeping dots on 3 players while using pet to silence and fear

@@AmideusTV You don't seem to have any clue on how programming works, because that makes no sense in a programming context. Any senior architect would be heavily criticised for coming up with a model like that. What is likely happening here is that the chance of resisting and hitting a spell is calculated together. So once a dot has been successfully applied, each individual thick can at most only be partially resisted on damage. Furthermore, there's a good chance that each school of magic has its own method for calculating resistance. It's a common practice in programming to group based on a common unity, but it means each school of magic might behave a little different.

​@@Rayzan1000 It's ok to admit that you are wrong and do not know what you are talking about. Word salading speculation when we KNOW how spell hit and spell resistance works doesn't make you sound smarter. Neither does making without evidence or basis the claim that "Developers would never do that" when in fact they did. Just like a developer would NEVER design something like a debuff cap that just drops a debuff off the end because the game cannot handle tracking more than 8 debuffs at one time so it just pushes it off the stack. WoW vanilla is HISTORICALLY known for shortcuts, poor programming decisions, and a lot of other issues including inconsistently applied metrics. Ultimately it's pretty simple. Spells with a damage component use spell hit to determine whether or not the spell actually lands, and they use spell resistance to determine damage dealt. For spells that do not have a damage component, spell resistance is used.

what a weird DoT, it's just lump dmg but delayed. Not dmg in distinct parts.

not like, this IS a pro sport for them. this is what is meant by true min maxing that every single Blizz competitor goes through. people, like that Redditor, just dont understand the levels you have to go through just to even compete. skill is only 70% of it. you have to think about everything. when there was less resources back in the day these guys were still going to extremes and trying everything out to be the best. everything was thoroughly thought through. treid and tested and tried and tested again. everything that could be controlled, besides RNG, was.

your comment is great, btw. nice one.

@chrismcaulay7805 This exactly.

Pallytime is a G

Makes me wonder if this was part of why they removed it. An aspect that wasn't really liked which needed a large overhaul. Just killed it instead

it did in normal classic and 2019, but they fucked up in tbc, when they made some resist changes, same with rogue and cheap shot/poison

Totally agree! As a game dev myself, it's reasons like this that I do not like the idea of overly streamlining stats or classes and abilities. To me half the fun is trying something crazy and trying to "break" the game. Obviously you try to avoid something being stupidly OP, but I don't mind when something is OP in a certain niche, especially if the player has to put work in to pull it off.

Check out old school runescape ;)

No. He lost to Snutz in 2019, and lost to him again. This wasn’t just a “bug”. Snutz is simply better.

In some alternate universe, shadow resistance worked and they got the Finals we deserved o7

@@Lokipower By that logic Frost resistance wouldnt be as shit as it is either and Mage woulda had a much harder time against all other classes.

@@Accelerate55 This is a hard cope comment which fits perfectly considering you are simping for a hard counter matchup. Go ask Snutz yourself if he won against Ziqo cause he is "simply better."

@@KingJerbear considering Snutz is a professional e-sports player since he was a kid, I would argue that you are simping for Ziqo, who has at best done arenas competitively. Ziqo didn’t get a single polymorph off and got kited perfectly lol, don’t give me some nonsense shadow resistance response please. I don’t think I’m the one coping here.

Hope you’re doing good bro ❤️

Keep your head up brother! This shit will pass and you will be a gigga chad soon enough!

❤❤❤

Lol that’s some real mental warfare. xD How was he going to do that?

@@rosemorningstar5368 he mentioned in his final video that he had bribed a mod to get access to his rival's discord. He also set up a bot to notify him when his rival went to bed by tracking his alt accounts and his sleep schedule to a degree that he knew when his rival went to bed and when he would enter REM sleep. Techno also formed a guild from different timezones to consistently have a buff on his island and used alts with debuffs to break into his rival's island and sabotage him

Don’t discount the lock. Snutz is multi glad r1 player too lol😂

brother even he admited that he would probably still lose if it worked, he was agaisn't one of the best warlocks in the world and warlock has such a massive advantage over mage it's not even close.

That’s the reason why Asmongold always says Warlocks are from another planet and you can’t beat them.

That's not entirely accurate. Resistances work on a spectrum in Vanilla. Non damaging effects are either resisted or not. Since there's no values to affect, it's a binary of all or nothing. Silence, Fear, Shadow Weaving all fall under this category. For damaging spells it's a bit different. Since damaging spells have a value component that can be adjusted, rather than fully resisting the damage from a spell due to resistance you only resist the damage portion as a partial resist. Because a full resist of a damaging spell is a miss, NOT a resist (attack tables weren't just for melee, spells worked off the same concept too). It's why you typically resist spells from lower level enemies easier, because it's the attack table for spells doing that work NOT resistance. DOTs work off the EXACT same function as other damaging spells with one caveat. They are really, really big. The base damage and scaling of a DoT is one of the highest in the entire game, because the damage is dealt over a period of time. All spells work off this basic principle of time versus damage value, and since most dots work off the 16 second or 24 second value, they have to be WORTH the cast for that time. That said, all the game sees when you cast a dot is a single instance of a spell that does X damage. Because of this, the resistance portion of the roll is applied at dot application. You don't get a new chance at resist each time the dot deals it's damage, you only get to resist the first time it's cast on you for the full duration of the spell. (which if you think about it in terms of the resistance protecting you from the spell itself, makes a lot of sense from RP standpoint. You are resisting the spell on cast, not on damage. Once afflicted you're afflicted.) Now, because of the protections afforded to dots due to their damage being delayed the formula is also applied at a lower rate than other spells too, and resistances are less impactful against the spell. I don't believe that it's a 10% effective rate, but it is applied to the formula at a lesser rate. Essentially dots get more benefit from damaging effects due to the way the coefficient works, and less impact from resistance all because the damage is realized over time rather than all at once as a balancing tool, since everything about spells and damage is based on time.

@@AmideusTV This is an extremely long post that completely misses the point. The functioning of spell hit and the scaling of spellpower on Dots is very well understood and is not the issue here. If Dots were simply counted as a damage spell, we would see substantial partial resists, but that's not what happens. Blizzard has explicitly said that until a patch in 2017 during TBC, DoTs were only resisted at 1/10 of the normal resist rate, and that is what is screwing Ziqo here.

@@matstornros7231 thanks for the clarification

​@matstornros7231 a fellow patch note enjoyer. Yeah everty unbalanced cheese looks intentional until the devs put out patch notes that say basically this works nothing like we intended. And players that abuse that cheese will defend it to the death.

So not just blizzard, but other games do the same

He was probably not confident in being able to beat the best players playing a warlock

I doubt that would have been as entertaining and he is unlikely to beat snutz lock vs lock anyway.

@@mcrbelieve3923 i think he couldve beat em all even as warlock, but against snutz the issue wouldve been the same

you can still trade at 60

@@Shizuka0490 more so the leveling is where that matters, I truly think a lot of the people in the tournament would not have legitimately achieved 60 In their timeframe without handouts/ rmt

Yea, they’re all pretty garbage at the game

@@figgypudding6277 even in ssf you can get boosted its not going to change anything other than make it even harder for people who arent household names

@@tommystizzle6560 so your one of the people who believe with all things equalized you can beat snutz or ziqo? xD

You’re gunna be waiting forever mate

@@wadeprochaska2714 what you mean? It comes out Nov 30th bro

TF is sol

@@Accelerate55 he means sod(omite)

@@Accelerate55 I meant Season of Discovery.. for some reason I was thinkin it was called season of legacy lol

capitalsing on emey mistakes hhh

the only thing you did was wet your bed

@@XpVersusVista brutal

lol

streamers winning in a streamer event ppl be like 😢😢😢

​@@phillipbotter6470dam you really did not even watch the video