Watch This Before You Buy The Yeezy Foam Runner Shoes!

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11 ай бұрын

My Yeezy Foam Runner Sneaker Shopping Guide & Thoughts on Buying these CRAZY Shoes.
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@pablomunozribera
@pablomunozribera 11 ай бұрын
I wear size EU43 on Yeezy's 350, 500 and 700, but on slides and foam rnnrs, went one size up, and they fit nice, maybe 1,5 size up would be perfect, but one size up fits well
@NMUSIC88
@NMUSIC88 11 ай бұрын
I go down a size and they work for me. Going TTS and up a size had my feet swimming in these things. For reference, I’m a 5 in 350v2’s and normally a 4.5TTS.
@officialtripleb2013
@officialtripleb2013 11 ай бұрын
Same, I got TTS and they're like fucking boats. They're actually the carbons as in the video, I wear those ones with socks and got a smaller pair for without
@slova535
@slova535 11 ай бұрын
Where did you buy the shoes
@CanWegetsubsWithnovideo-xw8lk
@CanWegetsubsWithnovideo-xw8lk 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad to see your views going back up you deserve it
@bxvyvnm963
@bxvyvnm963 11 ай бұрын
I’m size 8.5 in almost everything. I’m glad I went half size up. Got them size 9 and feels amazing
@gaming_queenn
@gaming_queenn 2 ай бұрын
im size 7 and got them size 8 would they fit good??
@bxvyvnm963
@bxvyvnm963 2 ай бұрын
Up to you. If you want them snug to your toes than your actual size & if you want them to feel comfort and a little loose than said up is better
@trentonnorthside9400
@trentonnorthside9400 10 ай бұрын
I got a size 10 yzy slide in the bone color way, should I go full size up to 11 in the foam runner ? (Stone salt clrway)
@TheEbola
@TheEbola 11 ай бұрын
I have saw them at for retail on internet but they only have a size 9,5 (43eu) normally I’m a size 10 (44eu) should I buy them?
@jugg3rnog
@jugg3rnog 11 ай бұрын
tbh i say size up in these. i sized up and if you wear them with socks, you wont have any problems. but if you go tts and try wearing socks, it may be tight for you
@danielsabh
@danielsabh 7 ай бұрын
Excellent content
@Osiris-wm2kj
@Osiris-wm2kj 7 ай бұрын
I love these shoes and I absolutely love how they feel on my feet. I wear a size 13 so even when I get my size shoe. It tends to be a issue simply getting my foot in the shoe. With these, I can just throw them on and leave which is awesome to me. How ever… I wouldn’t pay $100+ for this 😂 definitely a conversation starter
@OmgitsAntonio
@OmgitsAntonio 11 ай бұрын
i def got these a size up on the sage and i have wide feet so it FITS and its smooth but in the upper toe its mad tight, so on my next i got 2 sizes up and they fit hella comfy.
@OmgitsAntonio
@OmgitsAntonio 11 ай бұрын
my TTS is 10, so i got an 11 in sage and 12 in mx cinder
@christopherwilliams477
@christopherwilliams477 11 ай бұрын
I have them too and I been wearing them for a year! Go up one size if you want to wiggle your toes
@GoatEditz244
@GoatEditz244 Ай бұрын
where did you buy them from?
@gamingwithspaz9707
@gamingwithspaz9707 11 ай бұрын
the difference between these and crocs is when u wear crocs for a long time it starts to hurt the knee i’ve realized with yeezy it better supports the knee i feel like
@djdreras851
@djdreras851 11 ай бұрын
it depends on your feet i wear a 12 but 13 comfortable
@Zo-Killa
@Zo-Killa 11 ай бұрын
I like that intro music bruh 💪🏾
@Eski813
@Eski813 4 ай бұрын
Just got my first pair for retail on confirmed 💪
@wei5146
@wei5146 Ай бұрын
Heard that they got different sizing in different color ? should i go for us11 instead ? (i`m us10 in yeezy350)
@delook983
@delook983 11 ай бұрын
Welp, im a tts 9 and wear 9.5 for my 350 v2's. I just got the carbons in 10.
@niftysweata4384
@niftysweata4384 11 ай бұрын
Thinking of going a size up on the stone salt. I wear size 9 on my 500s but they’re a lil tight
@user-om3cp4my6b
@user-om3cp4my6b 10 ай бұрын
Stone salt def go up
@muhdiman6087
@muhdiman6087 8 ай бұрын
I’m a US9.5 in UB. Should I go for for a 9 or 10 for stone salts?
@EvanByrd24
@EvanByrd24 11 ай бұрын
I’m a 12 in every retro, 13 in yeezy slides. Go with the 12 in foam runners. Too big is a way worse look w them
@Outsidebutinside
@Outsidebutinside 11 ай бұрын
So if I’m a 11 in yeezy slides go for size 10 in foams
@Shadowboxin8
@Shadowboxin8 11 ай бұрын
@@Outsidebutinside I just got them today. I would say the size up is perfect for me. No slippage but I wear socks with them. My left foot is slightly bigger than the right. Maybe if they had half sizes, I probably could’ve gotten away with a 11.5 but it would be close. I have a medium to narrow foot as well. If anyone has a narrow or med to narrow foot and plan on wearing socks with them, going up 1 size or getting the same size as your yeezy slides would be good. If you wear no socks, then you could probably get away with going your true size
@Shadowboxin8
@Shadowboxin8 11 ай бұрын
@@Outsidebutinside if you have a narrow foot. If not and you don’t plan on wearing socks, then yes. If you wear socks, esp thick socks then go with your yeezy slides size.
@looksandlifestylewithli3448
@looksandlifestylewithli3448 11 ай бұрын
I wish I would have went tts. I’m normally men 8 and got a 9 instead. They are too damn big. Just ordered the black color for my fiancé half size up since they don’t do half sizes in this shoe.
@ZeeZeeRe
@ZeeZeeRe 11 ай бұрын
I’m so confused. I have yeezy slides which I got in a size 8, yeezy 350 size 7, yeezy boost 300 in a size 7 (kind of loose a 6.5 would fit perfect). I ordered foam runners in a size 8, and it was super loose, it fit like a size 9 to me. I want to order again but I don’t know if I should get a size 6 or 7. The 8 was just so BIGG. 😭
@user-om3cp4my6b
@user-om3cp4my6b 10 ай бұрын
Get size 7
@selderane
@selderane 4 ай бұрын
On sizing: Runners are generally a little small, and they're only available in whole sizes. If you are a whole size, TTS will fit and be a bit snug. If you are a half size (I'm an 11.5) GO UP to the nearest whole size. It will be too small if you go down to the nearest whole size.
@JuanMendoza-mg6hm
@JuanMendoza-mg6hm 11 ай бұрын
If I'm an 11.5 tts, would size should I get for the carbons?
@ceasarangeles7503
@ceasarangeles7503 11 ай бұрын
12
@jecksonyeaah
@jecksonyeaah 22 сағат бұрын
so i went abt a size up im usually abt a 9 maybe 9 and a half do yall think they're gonna fit alright? i got a size men's 10
@Antoine3.33
@Antoine3.33 11 ай бұрын
Nice vid
@joyboy14.88
@joyboy14.88 11 ай бұрын
first time joining a shoe raffle and i won the carbons. Hope they turn out good! Great vid btw
@plxto-yt4913
@plxto-yt4913 11 ай бұрын
hope u get ur pair stained 😭
@jaidyn-7156
@jaidyn-7156 11 ай бұрын
@@plxto-yt4913damn 🤣🤣🤣
@jairhernandez661
@jairhernandez661 11 ай бұрын
@@plxto-yt4913ik u salty bro 🤣
@omokok1877
@omokok1877 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@guilhermemartins416
@guilhermemartins416 11 ай бұрын
I won the carbons on the drop, I cant wait to try them on!
@brooklynlaw273
@brooklynlaw273 11 ай бұрын
Same I won them to they are sooo comfortable
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ 2 ай бұрын
Wy think of em gng? u think they worth the money?
@ViciousFirearms
@ViciousFirearms Ай бұрын
@@ThatDiesel_yeah they’re comfortable, easy to slip on if you’re running out of the house quick, and a great summer shoe since they have so much airflow thanks to the holes. My go to summer shoe forsure
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ Ай бұрын
@@ViciousFirearms Thanks man! Just ordered a pair now. 🤝
@xeemsyt
@xeemsyt 11 ай бұрын
these shoes were receiving so much hate, im glad to see that people finally are rocking these for the toe ✌🏽🔥
@adrianzea3735
@adrianzea3735 4 ай бұрын
I'm size 10 and recently got a pair of Adidas Adifom Q on 10.5 and yes, they fit perfect but with that socked-like interior. I don't know if I should go with a 10 or 11 with these Yeezys... I have a wide feet so, I'm not sure to go TTS....
@CybertroninfiniteOfficial
@CybertroninfiniteOfficial 3 ай бұрын
Same problem here, I ordered a 10 and honestly plan on hair drying it if needed
@xvienti
@xvienti 11 ай бұрын
watching this after buying them, also i went 1.5 size up (US) and my feet be swimming in them but its aight cos ima still grow into em
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ 2 ай бұрын
My feet r done growing. You think I should go TTS or nah? I’ve got a narrow foot so I’m not sure what size to get.
@Solochosen_
@Solochosen_ Ай бұрын
Go TTS if you’re narrow. I wear a 7US so I got a 7 & still have extra room in the front & back.
@drock1717
@drock1717 11 ай бұрын
do you feel the bumps in the sole? thats my biggest concern and reason i dont buy crocs.
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ 2 ай бұрын
Nah. You’ll feel em for like the first 3 minutes of wearing them but then you’ll get used to em. As long as you’re wearing sock you’re good
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ 2 ай бұрын
If my feet r done growing and I’ve got a narrow foot, what size should I get? I’m thinking of either getting the MX Cinders, Onyx, or the MX Carbons.
@user-yf7od4jj3r
@user-yf7od4jj3r Ай бұрын
Stay tts they tend to be much longer, but perfectly wide if you size up for someone with wide feet.
@eyem27
@eyem27 11 ай бұрын
Im 9 on Yeezy 350 and 10 on Foam Runner and Slides.
@staytrippy11
@staytrippy11 11 ай бұрын
Is it black or navy
@KlutchCrzy
@KlutchCrzy 9 ай бұрын
Idk if I should get onyx or sand someone help me decide
@cinnamonbeauty954
@cinnamonbeauty954 6 ай бұрын
Where to buy them
@seyyu572
@seyyu572 11 ай бұрын
if I wear size 12 in air forces which size should i go in foam runners?
@kunalkumar-lb3zf
@kunalkumar-lb3zf 11 ай бұрын
13
@litesoutproduction
@litesoutproduction 11 ай бұрын
I don’t just slide in them ..I put them on like a regular shoe
@sevenseven442
@sevenseven442 Ай бұрын
Half size down or true to size
@jollysingh3949
@jollysingh3949 11 ай бұрын
ID on watch?
@chris.christopher
@chris.christopher 11 ай бұрын
sizing always depends on the colorway
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ 2 ай бұрын
If I get the MX Cinders, should I go TTS or not? I have a narrow foot and I’m not sure what size to get.
@rudyborce4572
@rudyborce4572 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video man! Just wanna ask about the sizing of this two. Im wearing size 8 US men, what size should i get for the yeezy foam runner?
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ 2 ай бұрын
You got a narrow or wide foot? Also, what colour way are you thinking of getting?
@rudyborce4572
@rudyborce4572 2 ай бұрын
@@ThatDiesel_ hey thanks for the responce! I have narrow feet and im looking to order the mx granite i just dont know what size to get
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ 2 ай бұрын
@@rudyborce4572 Fs man. As someone with narrow feet, I would definitely go TTS (true to size). If you want some extra room in the shoe, go up a size. The only downside with going up a size with narrow feet, your foot will rub on the back of the heel due to extra space and will be noticeably more wide which isn’t great for stability. 100% would recommend going TTS in the MX colour ways. Hope this helps 🤝
@rudyborce4572
@rudyborce4572 2 ай бұрын
@@ThatDiesel_ hey man thanks for the advice. So i went to tts and they are perfectly fin on me. I can wear them with or without socks
@ThatDiesel_
@ThatDiesel_ 2 ай бұрын
@@rudyborce4572 🤜🤛
@Dropsen1
@Dropsen1 11 ай бұрын
7US in AF1/Jordan's, 8.5US in 350 V2 and 9US in slides (because 8US was too tight). What size should I get for runners?
@Mintlyshadow
@Mintlyshadow 11 ай бұрын
Since Walmart been remaking foams and slides i’ve been off buying em .
@sosadiff
@sosadiff 11 ай бұрын
Sizing is kind of confusing, on the app it says go 1 size up and other people also said size up. Then other people say go TTS I'm just gonna trust your word on going TTS lol
@mhmepiccool2703
@mhmepiccool2703 11 ай бұрын
I went a size up and they had so much heel slip definitely go true to size. Even though I’m in between 13 and 14 14 was way to big
@edskate3
@edskate3 11 ай бұрын
I went tts at the tape haze but i sell them because they where way to small.
@legendpinoy
@legendpinoy 11 ай бұрын
you can get away w tts or +1 imo, i’m a true uk8 and both uk8 and uk9 fit nicely
@someones_here
@someones_here 11 ай бұрын
depends on what size your are.
@fellipecallegas882
@fellipecallegas882 11 ай бұрын
I’m tts to made in china and 1size up made in usa
@Ivan-jj1uo
@Ivan-jj1uo 10 ай бұрын
Где заказать?
@dang3r823
@dang3r823 4 ай бұрын
I’m a 8.5. Got these in a 9. Nice fit. A bit snug. I was thinking about selling it and get a size 10. But I’m worried about my heel slipping out with a 10. Should I keep the 9? Will these break in and feel much better on my feet? Ty
@Metronati
@Metronati 4 ай бұрын
I’m an 8.5 too and wasn’t sure if I should size up to 9, is it tight for you?
@Metronati
@Metronati 4 ай бұрын
Also what colorway did you buy.
@dang3r823
@dang3r823 4 ай бұрын
@@Metronatiis not super tight. Just snug. I got about 1 inch space around the toe box area. I got the Onyx colorway.
@Metronati
@Metronati 4 ай бұрын
@@dang3r823 Alright thanks👏
@Duckman69.9
@Duckman69.9 11 ай бұрын
Do u know when they release to retailers
@JaySmooth_
@JaySmooth_ 11 ай бұрын
What💀
@browhat9349
@browhat9349 9 ай бұрын
Try to keep up to date lol, I think August was the last time they would drop to retailers but you can try to see for yourself.
@yeezusking
@yeezusking 11 ай бұрын
are they worth to catch on drop for resell ?
@ASneakerLife
@ASneakerLife 11 ай бұрын
Ehhh not really maybe long term though
@pretty_taurus11-11
@pretty_taurus11-11 11 ай бұрын
I like mines!😊
@princembonambi3011
@princembonambi3011 11 ай бұрын
Wearing a foam runner with the half sock 😢 😢
@bvss8349
@bvss8349 11 ай бұрын
If I wear size US 11 in Nike Blazers which size should I go in Foam Runners?
@deklanpeirce9908
@deklanpeirce9908 11 ай бұрын
I'm size 11 blazers and I went 12 on the runners
@joethakidddhk83
@joethakidddhk83 11 ай бұрын
12
@RomeoAdams09
@RomeoAdams09 11 ай бұрын
So I wear a 10 in Jordan 1 and 11 and yeezy 350v2. Should I go with the 11?
@prince_just
@prince_just 11 ай бұрын
Honestly , just to be safe I say go to size 12 it would fit perfectly but if you like a little space go with 13 .
@sebastiangomez2186
@sebastiangomez2186 11 ай бұрын
You have wide feet?
@gsorestes9933
@gsorestes9933 11 ай бұрын
11 should be fine
@JayyBanks
@JayyBanks 11 ай бұрын
Just wanted to the Kinetic promo off. I respect it 😭 I’ve been wanting some anyways.
@pacskii
@pacskii 11 ай бұрын
Bit the bullet and got 2 pairs of shorts from them recently, quality is insane. Worth it
@toldvirgilwritebrickonmybrick
@toldvirgilwritebrickonmybrick 11 ай бұрын
i wear a 7.5 in men's, anybody know what size i should get these in?
@NicoSoEpic
@NicoSoEpic 10 ай бұрын
Probably a 8-8.5
@PhenomenalOne1000
@PhenomenalOne1000 11 ай бұрын
Won sz 9 today
@sheadoresmike
@sheadoresmike 11 ай бұрын
one of the hardest shoes of all time
@AJAfterEffects
@AJAfterEffects 11 ай бұрын
i got the real ones at the mall for 60$ just yesterday
@recklessrebelxo
@recklessrebelxo 11 ай бұрын
If you had onyx and carbon next to each other can tell the difference?
@ASneakerLife
@ASneakerLife 11 ай бұрын
Yes, black vs charcoal
@user-ct8ir9fu5c
@user-ct8ir9fu5c 11 ай бұрын
@@ASneakerLife which is the darker one?
@pesito
@pesito 11 ай бұрын
if you gotta wide foot do i go up a size ? Someone please let me know
@reyesje81
@reyesje81 11 ай бұрын
I went a size up , they fit to big so I threw them in the dryer 5 minutes on high they fit perfect now . Just in case .
@sevbhatti5517
@sevbhatti5517 11 ай бұрын
@@reyesje81did you go up a size in this colourway bro? I’m a UK9 should I go TTS?
@ASneakerLife
@ASneakerLife 11 ай бұрын
Go true
@amadoquito8169
@amadoquito8169 11 ай бұрын
I have wide feet. I usually wear 12 in shoes but tts way too tight so I went 13. Perfect fit.
@bwagz_0858
@bwagz_0858 9 ай бұрын
i have temu ones they don’t even look similar but there comfy the only problem is there absolutely hideous 😭
@JPatternsIII
@JPatternsIII 11 ай бұрын
Only thing bout these shoes is they cut up my ankle depending on the socks I wear, otherwise they solid
@dennishernandez8352
@dennishernandez8352 11 ай бұрын
I wear a 10 1/2 so should I go 10 or 11?
@Micahangelo7
@Micahangelo7 11 ай бұрын
I’m thinking the same thing
@LilCreamer
@LilCreamer 11 ай бұрын
TRUST ME GO TRUE TO SIZE ON THIS RELEASE!!! i bought the carbon size up AND THEY WERE HUGE. But the mx cinder were small so i sized up
@62sharkz
@62sharkz 11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU SM, i won the raffle on confirmed and went tts and now everyone’s saying size up but it’s good to know that tts should work
@LilCreamer
@LilCreamer 11 ай бұрын
@@62sharkz yeh ofc
@Vertex.
@Vertex. 11 ай бұрын
mx cinders I sized up nd they were too damn big
@sevbhatti5517
@sevbhatti5517 11 ай бұрын
I’m a UK9 are these TTS or do I get a 10 guys!
@SM-xx6vx
@SM-xx6vx 11 ай бұрын
Get a 10. I’m a TTS UK 9 and all my foams I cop in a 10
@sevbhatti5517
@sevbhatti5517 11 ай бұрын
@@SM-xx6vx okay thanks bro
@Ayztee23
@Ayztee23 11 ай бұрын
go 1 size up with these this are tight as hell
@831x07
@831x07 11 ай бұрын
what size are you?
@Ayztee23
@Ayztee23 11 ай бұрын
@@831x07 if you are an in between sizer like me (eg. 9.5) i would suggest get size 10. If not stick to your tts for a snug fit. If you want it a bit loose go up a size and just wear socks. It wont fall off your feet because it hugs your ankles.
@mohachapella7531
@mohachapella7531 7 ай бұрын
Bro i wear 7 us on dniek dunks , which size should i get
@Rotvic17
@Rotvic17 11 ай бұрын
Are these true to size
@charlenejacques2114
@charlenejacques2114 9 ай бұрын
No. Size up!
@default5239
@default5239 11 ай бұрын
Bro what type of watch is that?
@tompsonsantini2890
@tompsonsantini2890 3 ай бұрын
Fr
@mobsyndicate1389
@mobsyndicate1389 11 ай бұрын
Mx China ,solid are US
@cappinaintcuffin
@cappinaintcuffin 11 ай бұрын
Imma size 10 & the foams really are true to size no cap
@RBEditz.1
@RBEditz.1 11 ай бұрын
Yo I am a size 10.5 should I get a 10 or 11
@browhat9349
@browhat9349 9 ай бұрын
@@RBEditz.1 try 11
@Heybigtony
@Heybigtony 11 ай бұрын
DO NOT GO TTS size UP trust me
@ASneakerLife
@ASneakerLife 11 ай бұрын
No way lol
@JMartinJ
@JMartinJ 9 ай бұрын
These way more comfy than crocs
@Shadowboxin8
@Shadowboxin8 11 ай бұрын
Damn it. I just ordered my first pair and went with 1 size up like I do with my slides. 😩😩
@kevinmccallister2646
@kevinmccallister2646 11 ай бұрын
They feel too big still?
@quinnmcginnis797
@quinnmcginnis797 11 ай бұрын
Me too 😢
@Shadowboxin8
@Shadowboxin8 11 ай бұрын
@@kevinmccallister2646 not sure yet. I get them on Wednesday.
@Shadowboxin8
@Shadowboxin8 11 ай бұрын
@@quinnmcginnis797 I get them on Wednesday so we shall see.
@yvlmarvinn
@yvlmarvinn 11 ай бұрын
Same man I’m disappointed in me
@pesxmyst4593
@pesxmyst4593 11 ай бұрын
im a 10.5 but obviously there’s no half sizes so would i go 10 or 11 for these?
@SM-xx6vx
@SM-xx6vx 11 ай бұрын
11
@alienboi1081
@alienboi1081 9 ай бұрын
im the 1000th like
@Straightarrow213
@Straightarrow213 11 ай бұрын
You got to be crazy or desperate to pay those resell values retail or no sale
@riseuplight
@riseuplight Күн бұрын
I can't believe you paid 300 for foam rnr
@arielalvarez5543
@arielalvarez5543 11 ай бұрын
I wear a 9.5… would a 10 be good me bro??
@interesting9498
@interesting9498 11 ай бұрын
Yessir ima 10.5 and I got an 11 and it’s snug bro go for it
@tyyohr1841
@tyyohr1841 11 ай бұрын
Those shorts are wayyyyyy to short ya all need to go back to the 10” seam
@Toohot2handle758
@Toohot2handle758 11 ай бұрын
Awwww now all know what YOU are looking at baby boy. You like daddies legs?? Hahahahahhahahaha says a lot about you
@spaceship3196
@spaceship3196 11 ай бұрын
We not doing them shorts no more bro. Too short 😂
@pacskii
@pacskii 11 ай бұрын
We still doing them bro
@Colt-Forty5
@Colt-Forty5 11 ай бұрын
Shorter shorts look good if you have muscular legs. If you have sticks for legs, not so much lmao
@spaceship3196
@spaceship3196 11 ай бұрын
@@Colt-Forty5 lol I feel you bro I just got to do the shorts that’s at least touching my knees. Anything above I feel just a fad niggas finna be in baggy soon
@theenglishangle
@theenglishangle 11 ай бұрын
After a year I broke the back off one of mine 🤧
@ASneakerLife
@ASneakerLife 11 ай бұрын
DAMN forreal lol
@hungfbi69
@hungfbi69 11 ай бұрын
Most expensive foam ever. Pennies to make
@Nick20Percent
@Nick20Percent 11 ай бұрын
goofy ass bionicle shoes
@geodezix
@geodezix 8 ай бұрын
i can't believe anyone would pay $300 for a shoe....
@ASneakerLife
@ASneakerLife 8 ай бұрын
People pay 20K for a shoe lol
@Laurenelizo
@Laurenelizo Ай бұрын
Those sands are fake
@jaysoncoutou8028
@jaysoncoutou8028 10 ай бұрын
This is the worst flip-flops I've ever seen
@JimmyJamessonofthunder
@JimmyJamessonofthunder 5 ай бұрын
Completely insane if you buy these crocs for so much. Only to show other people you have money. Repent and come to jesus christ. He is the one that gives you peace. Not these ugly shoes
@flakobeamz
@flakobeamz 11 ай бұрын
at the end of the video were u wearinv the carbons or onyx because i heard you say onyx @asneakerlife
@ASneakerLife
@ASneakerLife 11 ай бұрын
Carbons that’s my bad if I said onyx
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