Assassin's Creed Origins vs Assassin's Creed Valhalla

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@stalwartscarf4292 Жыл бұрын

Ac Valhalla is a great game , I don’t get why people hating on it It’s just not an assassins creed game.

@user-ze8yy8jg1f Жыл бұрын

The only people who really like it joined ac when origins came out or after

@nerdydrummer8815 Жыл бұрын

If it doesn't give the full assassin's creed feel, it kind of beats the point, doesn't it?

@schiffer2386 Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, people complain that an AC game isn't an AC game and somehow you manage to not understand why people don't like it

@robin3502 Жыл бұрын

@@user-ze8yy8jg1f yo e jugado varios y la verdad ósea me gusta vahalla pero mi favorito es Odyssey y Unity y pues,e jugado el Rogue,Unity,el 3, Black flag y el Syndicate,Odyssey y Valhalla,la verdad habemos personas a las que si nos gusta los 2 últimos juegos de Assassin’s Creed y aparte tú te crees superior solo por jugar las primeras entregas,no eres superior wey,cada quien tiene gustos distintos

@Mike-nd1oo Жыл бұрын

The game that never ends 😭

@GhostHounds 5 ай бұрын

Ac Valhalla is actually fun, it gives the Vikings feel and really brings out oden, Thor and all the gods

@speedblitz864 5 ай бұрын

Not a typical ac game and it's a complete disgrace to the franchise

@GhostHounds 5 ай бұрын

All opinions are different

@ItsOssi 4 ай бұрын

Agreee

@ItsOssi 4 ай бұрын

Agreed*

@mcw-lg2dm 4 ай бұрын

Agreed, it may be the best looking game ive ever seen from purely visuals. This franchise has gamers so spoiled its insane. What other dev is dropping this level of open world with this much content year after year??

@WayneTheGamerGuy 9 ай бұрын

Ac valhalla story is like watching an entire netflix series except its a game, thats why i like it

@AliasProXxL 8 ай бұрын

Netflix sucks atm😅

@kaisaras0173 8 ай бұрын

Valhala is more like God of war and less like an Assassons creed game

@WayneTheGamerGuy 8 ай бұрын

@@kaisaras0173 its kinda of an assassin's creed game if you dont go looking for the mythical stuff and if you dont buy the fucking mythical stuff, just play the game normally and you'll be fine

@sergiolol3439 8 ай бұрын

The history on valhalla was really medium, origin was much moore interesting

@kaisaras0173 8 ай бұрын

@@WayneTheGamerGuy Bad game bro

@prozac5314 11 ай бұрын

Valhalla is mega underrated. The only problem it has is how long the game is.

@prozac5314 11 ай бұрын

and most importantly the intro, its so much better than any AC and gets you immersed immediately while with other AC games youre just confused who are you, where are you, what do you do and who are all these people.

@user-di5mj4hs3u 10 ай бұрын

npc and zoomer comment

@prozac5314 10 ай бұрын

how? I have played almost every other assassin, they are boring and repetitive with no new ideas except maybe Origins. Like Odyssey is a clunky boring mess, the older ones are trash and "good" only because nostalgia.@@user-di5mj4hs3u

@Urmomhasadumpy 9 ай бұрын

Tf.... how is the game being too long seen as bad? Ubi has now shortened ac mirage down to 20 hrs instead of 47 hrs and now people are complaining about mirage being too short.... so just shut tf up about how long the games are because it's not ubisofts fault it's the fans who are batshit delusional and have no clue what they want

@resai17 7 ай бұрын

I love long games

@MoroccanRose85 6 ай бұрын

The thing about Valhalla is Eivor didn’t want to become a Hidden One because Vikingnrs don’t sneak around and are more forthright than an Assassin.

@GamingCHILLz3000 8 күн бұрын

So it's "Viking's Creed" not assassin's creed.

@Goyurt Жыл бұрын

Look, I think that Ac origins was the final actual assassin game before odyssey brought in FREAKING GODS Edit: WHAT HAVE I DONE, THERE'S A WAR IN MY REPLIES, THIS IS A 1 YEAR OLD COMMENT, DAMN

@carwynwilliams7398 Жыл бұрын

They were Isu, and they were in the game as part of a simulation

@WaKy. Жыл бұрын

Yep. Remember when they removed the crossbow from AC1 because it was historically inaccurate? Now we have asgard, medusa, cyclopses, giant wolves, and reincarnations of norse gods lol.

@carwynwilliams7398 Жыл бұрын

@@WaKy. it’s all part of simulations/memories, that have been filtered into mythologies so that the main protagonists can comprehend what’s happening, can you imagine Eivor’s brain if they had seen what Isu civilisation was actually like with flying cars, skyscrapers and technology? That’s why everything is shown as ‘mythological’.

@WaKy. Жыл бұрын

@@carwynwilliams7398 still it shouldn’t be in the franchise. If you want to play as odin and fight frost giants, play something else. It doesn’t belong in assassins creed. Also ubisoft would rather have the player play as odin rather than an assassin.

@carwynwilliams7398 Жыл бұрын

@@WaKy. how can you criticise the mythology though when in the original games they couldn’t stop talking about Jupiter, Juno and Minerva, 3 Roman gods, which btw Ezio is Italian, make of that what you will

@sabakhelashvili3124 10 ай бұрын

Ac origins is a masterpiece. ❤

@JSGaming0327 Жыл бұрын

I love AC Origins so much, I finished the whole game almost I haven’t finished every location on the map but I’m getting there. I really hope Bayek gets a sequel. 💯🔥

@tango-tapas Жыл бұрын

Quick question? I just bought assasins creed origins and im just wondering, what can i customise on bayek??

@ther3ap3r91 Жыл бұрын

@@tango-tapas his armour headgear and his beard if I'm not wrong. I haven't played in a long time

@tango-tapas Жыл бұрын

@@ther3ap3r91 ok thanks😁

@carpinchipedia7009 Жыл бұрын

@@tango-tapas armour, but not like in odyssey with each individual piece, it’s more like armour sets. you can decide if u want him bald or with hair, and shaved or with a beard. you can customise shields as well which although has a gameplay use also can be a good fashion item.

@BreakHarpe Жыл бұрын

Me too!!! I just discovered it on gamepass last month & I love it. Im on Mt 2nd playthrough & it's even more fun b/c I know what to upgrade & how to do certain things. B4 I was brand new to the series. I have so much fun doing things outside main missions like hunting to get crafting materials & taking out entire bandit camps without being detected, & also the side missions

@The_western_crab Жыл бұрын

I’d say one thing Valhalla did better on was that weapons and gear doesn’t clunk up you’re inventory and it actually MEANS something

@user-ze8yy8jg1f Жыл бұрын

It’s a rpg and you complain about inventory

@The_western_crab Жыл бұрын

@@user-ze8yy8jg1f I just know you’d also get annoyed if there was useless junk filling up your inventory

@giyutomioka9162 Жыл бұрын

@@The_western_crab assassin's creed odyssey kkkkk

@mcw-lg2dm 4 ай бұрын

I could go either way on it, i kind of liked how origins gear was just aesthetic for the most part. But valhalla did a good job with gear progression and transmog

@peterpumkineater6922 Жыл бұрын

Valhalla had the best modern day cuz they got rid of LAYLA

@lukacs654 Жыл бұрын

Ac 1-3 crying in the corner

@harrylaw-williams5118 Жыл бұрын

@@lukacs654 rest in peace Desmond you will be missed

@jje5713 11 ай бұрын

these future/actual times in AC has always been SHIT.

@SKNDteen 11 ай бұрын

@@jje5713except for desmond

@crew_dev Жыл бұрын

Gameplay was better in Valhalla they just did the same things but added more detail and faster paced

@Katze.auf.Wassermelone 11 ай бұрын

It becomes repetitive quickly imo

@crew_dev 11 ай бұрын

@@Katze.auf.Wassermeloneyea I was really burned out when I 100% valhalla

@prozac5314 11 ай бұрын

Yeah after playing valhalla, origins and odyssey felt clunky as hell

@lastlasygamer3987 11 ай бұрын

@@Katze.auf.Wassermelonerepetitive but gameplay was quite fun

@Katze.auf.Wassermelone 11 ай бұрын

@@lastlasygamer3987 yes but missions become repetitive, it's always go somewhere on your boat, kill X person, speak with somebody important or break into a castle. I know some missions were different and I loved them, but for me the number 1 takeaway from Valhalla's open world is the missions' lack of diversity, it's most of the time never about eavesdropping on somebody, infiltrating into enemy's ranks or steal something from a highly garded area. In Valhalla, stealth is optional and you can at all time just shut your brain off and kill everyone without worry that it will impact progression or story, it's fun at first but when you enter the hundred hour marks it becomes boring and seemingly always the same.

@anitadiclemente8245 Ай бұрын

Absolutely better than Valhalla

@totothewired5845 Ай бұрын

For me valhalla is way better to be even the best game

@OUnation Ай бұрын

@@totothewired5845valhalla is definitely not the best game

@Kneegalee Ай бұрын

@@OUnation how is not the best game, it literally has all the rpg requirements and perfectly played its parts

@Thrilltime69 Жыл бұрын

GIVE ME AN- 1- Edward Kenway Sequel 2- Connor Kenway Sequel 3- Bayek Sequel 4- (not related) haytham kenway his own game 5- Arno sequel

@zaylen8389 Жыл бұрын

Хочу видеть Нормальную историю Эйвор, где он принимает все правила Ассасинов и становится их членом. Хотелось бы увидеть перевоплощение жестокого убийцы в скрытного убийцу.

@Thrilltime69 11 ай бұрын

@@zaylen8389 bro speakin bing chillin

@Zavii 11 ай бұрын

@@Thrilltime69 you when English isn’t the only language spoken on the world😲😲

@Thrilltime69 11 ай бұрын

@@Zavii when you realize english wasn't my first lanuage and joke exists 😲😲😲

@Zavii 10 ай бұрын

@@Thrilltime69 you when you realise the only thing ik abt you is your dumb comment and not your life story😲😲

@ad1dev.s_27 Ай бұрын

That's why i believe not everyone should have the right to publish content. Coz they make stuff like this 💩

@alasdairpage123 10 ай бұрын

Assigns creed Valhalla is really good

@knivesintro3238 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@EMIR-pj3hy Ай бұрын

BRO ORIGINS IS THE LAST MASTERPIECE before oddysey and valhalla

@Marcial858 Жыл бұрын

Me gusta mucho más el Valhalla a mi, sinceramente

@CulunXTR11 Жыл бұрын

Tbh if u like Vikings (Wich I do) it’s a good game but also Origins was the first AC game I played

@Thrilltime69 Жыл бұрын

@@CulunXTR11 dam AC4 Was the first I ever playe back in 2013

@kuzco1901 Жыл бұрын

@@Thrilltime69i played all ac games and also when they got released except Valhalla which i will buy it now its only 15 bucks.

@Werteux 6 ай бұрын

Me too

@NenMagem9106 6 ай бұрын

Yo lo mismo, es mi favorito de toda la saga (Aunque el mejor me parece el 4)

@Kexetey Жыл бұрын

should have put "actually an assasins creed game"

@carwynwilliams7398 Жыл бұрын

Cry more

@Kexetey Жыл бұрын

@@carwynwilliams7398 bro what why would I cry fucking goober 🤡

@WaKy. Жыл бұрын

Valhalla fanboys would get pissed lol

@Kexetey Жыл бұрын

@@WaKy. there’s already one in this reply section as you saw lol

@DarkoRavens Жыл бұрын

@@WaKy.But hey, all the retards are smiling 😒

@cod_mobile_ita5817 Жыл бұрын

Story AC valhalla

@CaseOh_EvilSide 6 ай бұрын

Ain’t no way

@ItsOssi 4 ай бұрын

Yep

@adityabathla21 6 ай бұрын

We needed a game on the basis of the great series of vikings based on ragnar lothbrok and assassin's creed delivered us a great game. Ac valhalla is not a game u want when u think of assassin's creed but otherwise its a great game with a goated protagonist in my opinion ❤😊.

@kingfayaiz44 Жыл бұрын

For me 1. Origins 2. Black flag 3. AC 2 4. Odyssey 5. Valhalla

@knivesintro3238 3 ай бұрын

My favorite ac is origins

@user-pg7dh7xe3b Ай бұрын

@@knivesintro3238 ac origins vs ghost of tsushima ?

@MTB_VR 4 ай бұрын

I love ac Valhalla way more than origins imo

@overheadlynx3867 Жыл бұрын

The incredible origin story of ac vs a viking with an hidden blade

@kk-jc3jx Жыл бұрын

not with a hidden blade

@dovakinusss Жыл бұрын

@@kk-jc3jxwith... a blade on his arm

@prozac5314 11 ай бұрын

Valhalla has better story, the ISU made to gods felt way more immersive and the whole world felt better.

@overheadlynx3867 10 ай бұрын

@@hiyahugo5303 i did play it

@arivivith4375 9 ай бұрын

You mean the lackluster disappointing origin story that retconned previous lore and become a knock off Witcher clone with an inconsistent main character that everyone likes due to the performance of the actor instead of the actual writing of said character. Vs A viking that worked with the hidden ones to fight against the order and basically helped create the templars unintentionally in a game that's bloated with too much content yet has glimmers and shines of what a true assassins creed would be, fixing the lore that was ruined and making modern day great again.

@bladerunner5003 10 ай бұрын

The fact it's jhst viking themed got me into it

@michamatjas5207 Ай бұрын

assasin Creed Origins king 👑

@jakobstabl5214 Жыл бұрын

Pls do more of these shorts comparing the games themselves

@khosien Жыл бұрын

Unity vs syndicate plz❤️

@ahmedkhanchangwani2077 5 ай бұрын

Song name please

@SamMaleki-hw5ev 8 ай бұрын

assassins cread valhalla 👇👇

@NATEGODZILLA525 8 ай бұрын

In my opinion, I like assassin’s creed Valhalla more just in my opinion I like the Vikings team and about the Norse gods to

@aaronmiller9867 Ай бұрын

Clearly this guy just loves origins

@WOJTAX1 7 ай бұрын

Open world only sand 😂

@lettuce659 8 күн бұрын

Never! AC Valhalla is only for the true Vikings 🤫

@viniciuslima210 11 ай бұрын

Gameplay, stealth, pacing and DLC goes to Valhalla.

@dlovian3927 10 ай бұрын

No shot pacing goes to valhalla. Half the things you do in the story is actual filler like that one halloween one. Kinda sad because some of them are actually interesting

@maxgregory9708 10 ай бұрын

Agreed Origins was so boring

@user-tq4vw1mr5b 9 ай бұрын

@@maxgregory9708💀bro you are just shitty in origins

@lyricalap 6 ай бұрын

@@dlovian3927They really should have made half the alliances optional and more like side quests/ arcs. People would not complain had they done that because they really are interesting.

@decus6684 Ай бұрын

valhalla has no layla its a blessing

@jayrazy8526 11 ай бұрын

Origins started all of it man…the day assassins werent assassin anymore especially with the mid parkour

@carloswilliams7749 29 күн бұрын

He didn't say he didnt like ac Valhalla he just said origins is a better game

@jayeshyadav8891 4 ай бұрын

I think male Eivor is a beast and very menacing. Most people play female Eivor and get disappointed

@spiritexcalibur1276 20 күн бұрын

Agree for all except Open World. We can say all about Valhalla but his Open World is breathtaking, landscapes are wonderful a gem for the eyes

@QURAN3713 27 күн бұрын

I am the Egyptian king.

@remipiercote4874 9 ай бұрын

Personally I played the 2 and I prefer ac valhalla

@hillbane999 25 күн бұрын

open world-valhalla dlc-valhalla gameplay-valhalla

@blueberry3598 10 ай бұрын

i like how in ac origins if something happened that usually wouldn’t happen in those times they would blame it on the aminus glitching so the story doesn’t seem too altered and a bit realistic

@johnburila8034 7 ай бұрын

For me im a big fan of this game i like it all im in Ac Valhalla now

@Jello67 11 ай бұрын

I love ac origins, but you can’t be telling me that the ending was good. I barely even remember the final bosses name.

@user-pg7dh7xe3b Ай бұрын

ac origins vs ghost of tsushima ?

@Dguyh 7 ай бұрын

Assasins creed valhalla is a good game, though it wasn't what we asked for. Valhalla should be renamed

@noobking945 10 күн бұрын

I have finished the ac orgins now I want ac valhalla

@Olez293 11 ай бұрын

Bro who plays valhala needs to be bulied💀💀

@JOELO3Z Ай бұрын

Straight CAP 🧢 Ac Valhalla is way better!

@krazyfinndude666 Жыл бұрын

this could be a cool series idea. Instead of the characters, compare the games? Also I agree, I prefer Origins by far in the new trinity. Odyssey and Valhalla are good games don't get me wrong, but they arent' good as Assassin's Creed games imo Origins does, with Bayek and Aya making the Hidden Ones, the predecessor of the actual Assassin's Creed and doing actual assassin stuff and I also like how Aya changes her name Amunet and it recalls to one the statues in AC2 under the villa that unlocks Altair's armor. The DLC's for Origins are really cool, the hidden ones we see Bayek and Aya do more actual assassin shit and do stuff as a movement and the curse of the pharaohs is really cool and looks stunning in when you can visit different nether realms of the previous pharaohs from their tombs and battle them also.

@Angel-ko9jp 11 ай бұрын

"Assassin stuff" 💀☠️

@krazyfinndude666 11 ай бұрын

@@Angel-ko9jp okay

@TacitusKilgore12 10 ай бұрын

I think the ending in Valhalla was better but ok

@mohammedkher7305 14 күн бұрын

You've just given origins a point for fan service? Valhalla really gets hated for no reason

@Zinou_Rabha 6 ай бұрын

AC origins is overrated asf but still better than Valhalla

@kuzo42 17 күн бұрын

Finished both definitely prefer Valhalla more fun as hell

@chronic_hatred2k22 Ай бұрын

I actually enjoy AC Valhalla, but the asgard section doesn't need to exist.

@tomaszlesniczak5252 Ай бұрын

I love ancient egypt thats why i have been choosen orgins as my first AC gamplay ever

@MarkJMonaghan Күн бұрын

Swap the winners around and then your correct

@HALOFALLS117 11 ай бұрын

That's so un true you clearly just love ac origins

@user-pg7dh7xe3b Ай бұрын

ac origins vs ghost of tsushima ?

@farzadshorish135 Ай бұрын

Even In a 1000 years there will be a game better then vallhala trust me I finished the game it was its just no word can describe it just amazing

@saedrezatorabi2950 Жыл бұрын

in my opinion valhalla was far better nd playing as odin and asgard arc made this game phenomenal

@WaKy. Жыл бұрын

personally i didn’t like those parts. I don’t like playing as gods or fighting mythical beasts in an assassins creed game. I prefer stealth, parkour, and realistic combat.

@ninjago86Gaming Жыл бұрын

@Casie R mirage soon..

@Austriaisthebest_ 4 ай бұрын

Valhalla>>>>

@user-fs3wg1pf1o 20 күн бұрын

The best combat system . The best story, the best sounds , the best environment are all in ac valhalla Its actually the best game in history

@arthurmorgan7026 15 күн бұрын

AC Origins is one of the best game

@evilsoul5019 Жыл бұрын

Worst comparison ever , I played both and Valhalla is far better , for some days i felt like evor

@tarekxd9159 2 ай бұрын

what made origin better is the old egypt history.

@simonemartelli1661 Ай бұрын

Mi piace molto combattere stealth sui giochi e devo dire che a differenza di quello che dicono molti ad vahlalla è molto bello da stealth

@MRX_GAME 2 күн бұрын

No NO No No assassin Valhalla the best Viking game🔥🔥🔥🔥

@ProdByPalmarius Жыл бұрын

Accurate ratings imo, good video

@user-es4zc6om6o 10 ай бұрын

I just replayed origins . It's kinda fun till you get to the pyramids then you just kinda get thrown in the desert.. wish the story was longer and used more of the map. First playthrough was good fun, though but same feeling

@user-pg7dh7xe3b Ай бұрын

ac origins vs ghost of tsushima ?

@MINECRACK1278 6 ай бұрын

Revelations laughing

@jordanblody3566 2 ай бұрын

King Alfred wasn’t the antagonist of Valhalla, it was Basim, King Alfread helped Eivor out more than Basim did, and he is the only reason peace was brought to England

@Blackadey Жыл бұрын

AC origins is takes the cake. I usually play for hours, days. It's so immersive. The story line! The quests, the whole world. There is always something to do. Always something to discover. And the graphics! Just waoh.

@user-pg7dh7xe3b Ай бұрын

ac origins vs ghost of tsushima ?

@arturoalarcon518 5 ай бұрын

Nah dlcs go to Valhalla because of wrath of druids, siege of Paris and ragnarok those dlcs are cold🥶

@BlackOpsUniversal1 5 ай бұрын

Atleast i dont have to grind 2 hours to complete just a mission in origins bc my level is to low💀

@joshd270 Ай бұрын

Valhalla is more fun for me though, the combat in origins is kind of boring

@giarc0 2 ай бұрын

Origins is such an awesome game. Never understood any of the hate.

@Baldayodus 7 ай бұрын

In some ways, the desert of Origins is more interesting to explore than the mountains and forests of Valhalla

@ibrahemzubidat657 19 күн бұрын

Nah 1M - 0, AC valhalla win

@presidentjenkins6480 4 ай бұрын

I personally feel like yall over hate Valhalla and over love origins 😂

@atmanrath7497 3 ай бұрын

Origins dlc the curse of the Pharaohs is better than some whole games

@Egorka_Official 4 ай бұрын

ORIGINS TOP❤❤❤!!!

@mostwanted8769 2 ай бұрын

I love the feel of valhalla,so violent yet calming and i LOVE the fighting mechanism its perfect and the whole journey of eivor wolf-kissed is magnificent not to mention the weapons and outfits design the tattoos,hiarstyles and all that.....mann by far my favourite AC game❤❤

@sultanhamid4601 Жыл бұрын

Syndicate?

@mid2980 4 ай бұрын

It will be more better if origins not created laila

@arjunbhogal522 Жыл бұрын

Also the introduction of bayek was fire as hell wayyy better than eivors Introduction

@joshd270 5 ай бұрын

Bayek is my favorite protagonist of all the AC games

@shadowslicer3845 7 ай бұрын

Yeah open world desert is so interesting 😂

@Haloooomg 4 ай бұрын

They are both really fun ac games but brotherhood is better than both😎

@mcw-lg2dm 4 ай бұрын

Its cool to see how different peoples opinions are on games. Origins is one of my top games right behind red dead, but i also really enjoyed valhalla and found it actually underrated with all the hate it gets.

@playmaxniktoz Жыл бұрын

More living tombstone songs

@BailieMonsta 4 ай бұрын

I really liked Valhalla, but Origins was waaaay better.

@saptarshibiswas6345 2 ай бұрын

Eivor is goated.. No further questions👍

@user-lf2wg4rz6x 2 ай бұрын

Ain't no way you put origins above Valhalla in open world

@user-ms9ir2eo8y Ай бұрын

Frirst of all thats the reson its a ac title also origins solos

@danieldavis9832 9 ай бұрын

They literally should have just called it Valhalla. It doesn’t make me think of an assassins creed game. Just a Viking game

@ANONYMOUS-hz9xp 2 ай бұрын

I prefer assassins rather than vikings😂😂

@Ronaldo1985_ 9 ай бұрын

Valhalla win bro

@theMerovingianMan 4 ай бұрын

Couldnt finish the opening of origins. 100 hours in valhalla. What's the issue

@emmanuelgschwendtner7889 Ай бұрын

Literally everything goes to Origins

@ArashBidar 6 ай бұрын

Valhalla is the most ownesome game in its way but people don't like it because its not an assassine

@boomar8 10 күн бұрын

Honestly reading some of these comments makes me angry, hating on a game is just babyish, if your gonna wrongfully judge a game then keep it to yourself 🤷‍♂️sometimes change is for the better. AND REMEMBER assassins creed wasn’t predominantly ever fully purposed to be a game all about assassins. It’s about history, just because the game was introduced as that it doesn’t always mean it’s to do with that, if you don’t like Odyssey or Valhalla then just keep it to yourself, don’t weaken someone else’s opinion on a game THEY like. Just stick to the old games. Win Win

@WaKy. 10 күн бұрын

The original vision was about Assassins vs Templars. The way they told that story was through history. The games were never focused on history (until the recent ones) Wanting to play as an Assassin in Assassin’s Creed isn’t too much to ask for lol…it’s in the title.

@boomar8 9 күн бұрын

@@WaKy. I respect your opinion man but basically the point I was trying to make is that if you look in some of the replies people are just speaking crap about the newer rpg style games, I totally agree that origins was the last good game but I just don’t think the new ones aren’t horrible