Technically, Haytham did the same thing. He knew that the Templar Grand Master, Reginald Birch, abducted him forcefully from his family, but even then, Haytham remained a Templar, because he believed in their cause, and even then, he did not take kindly to finding out about what Birch did (Haytham kills him in the Forsaken book and takes over as the Grand Master). Though Haytham isn't really a protagonist unless you count the first few sequences from AC3.

He's prolly the only assassin who's a sniper and upholds free will better.

Ares14 also the first Irish protagonist☺

ILL TAKE THIS... May the Father of Understanding guide us

plot twist; the modern world reveres him as a strong warrior and hero

i really liked this Assasins Shay is so Cool i loved hes story

James Anderson I agree, there was so much hatred on Rogue but that became a better game than Unity. Shame Rogue didn't get the attention it deserves. Haytham is a great character. Shay is too. Great story. Altair, Ezio and other assassins did as they were told but Shay sort of like stopped what he was doing and asked if he was on the good side and questioned it.

James Anderson sure haytam started freeing the indian tribe at the start of AC3 but then he turned bad(ordered the boston masacre and the killing of his own son rathonaketon) . Shay also starts fighting the assasins for the inocents people the earthquake took but then he turned bad (killing arno's father). In conclusion I think power can corrupt people even good people . but you dont see the assasins do most times bad things like templars

Fernando lopez soria The massacre was created to help ignite the revolution (the Templars wanted a revolution to create their own nation, but Connor let the people decide their own future, but we all know how that went) and he was being a dick to Connor, besides he teamed up with him half way through the game. Shay at the end just wanted to retrieve the Precursor Box for the Templars because that was the last mission Haytham gave him, it just so happened to be Arno's father.

Brickman274 ahh that makes sence

Brickman274 Actually the templars in the colonies didn't want a revolution Haytham was mad at connor because he helped the americans starting a war. Later Haytham wanted that America was free from British influence because the Americans won many battles. Where more power is the templars are there Sorry for my bad English XD

I agree. The brotherhood was just acting like templars did in the other games, Achilles wanted to enforce "peace" and didn't care if many died for the greater good. The others should just have listened to shay. In the and Achilles may understand Shay (when Liams wants to shoot Shay he tries to stop him) and when Conor chase the templars Achilles tells him to not "destroty the world triyng to save it" so I think he understood his mistakes.

And those Ezio fan boys doesnt know that Shay feels more remorse and pain everytime he had to kill an Assassin.... Like Hope and Liam...

The game hand so much potential But Ubisoft pack of diciplince Bad English sorry...

The most painful one was with Ade

@@ixb1zzar3xi for the player, not for Shay. Shay barely knew him

You're right mate, it seems, I am not the only one to think that.

yes, ubisoft really shold. i means we can see the story unfolding from a templar point of view making both sides has a big character we played. they rushed this game so much even though shay has a really big potential. is it just me or ubisoft really afraid to making a templar is right too, i means i get their ideology and the history prooven that some country united not in the banner of democrasy but in the hand of empire. So why cant both sides can be potrait as people that believes in justice. i mean look at the latest game when they actully success in spliting the fandom into assassin supporter and templar supporter, making crawfor starick the 100 percent bad guy cliche united in one character. come on ubisoft we know you can make much more interesting character than this. let the fan actully split in two in which side they think is right and that is the proof of good quality character.

The problem with Shay's philosophy is that eventually he will take away the freedom of the people & give their asses in the hands of politicians - this is what the templar represent - a world order who will control you. So, if a politician is raping your 3 year old child - you can't do anything until some one slits Shay's Throat. Hence, my creed **extends his hidden blade**

Despite the fact that Shay is a Templar, he actually prefers being independent for the most part, at least from what i've seen. After the events of Rogue, he doesn't help the Colonial Rite and instead goes to kill Charles Dorian, then goes back to America and starts a family rather than helping De La Serre's and Germain's French Rites. We do know Shay has a son (nameless) and that the son has his own son (who is named Cudgel Cormac), both who are trained by Shay and who become very dangerous Templars (almost as dangerous as Shay himself, considering that info on Cudgel does say that he was feared). We do not know how Shay dies (if he's killed by someone or something, or dies due to age), but we do know he has lived for a while, considering he does become a grandfather, which is pretty impressive considering Connor destroyed the Colonial Rite of the Templar Order, so the Assassins are pretty much running the place again.

IKR

Rogue is my favorite installment in AC franchise. I hope Syndicate don't disappoint.

Hello captain kenway where are we gonna sail today

Dude he killed your best friend

ya I also love it it have something new and refreshing

So what if I called his best friend my own best friend shot me

It was too short for me. Everything felt rushed and never gave a shit when I had to kill my former colleagues cause the game never made me built a connection with them. Except Adewale. I really didn't want to kill him. :(

Jordan J I wish it was longer, and unity shorter. Cormac made me agree with the Templars of old. (Not the abstergo ones) Shay only ever wanted to protect the innocent

***** Yeah, Connor is probably the most selfless tbh. Even though his own life is pretty much shit; being threatend by Lee in the forest as just a kid, seeing his mother die, having to kill his own father, having to kill his best friend, being sent to jail and almost getting hanged for something he hadn't done, etc. Despite all that, he struggled on to bring freedom to the people and stop the templars.

***** I've always wondered if Arno might be the one to kill Shay! Where can I read/watch it?

Agreed. They shouldn't have worked on Unity and Rogue at the same time, and just release Rogue only. That way, Rogue would have been longer (in terms of story, it was good story, but short), and Unity wouldn't have been bugged at launch.

+Eathos The only thing we know about Shay's later life is that after killing Charles Dorian, he returned to America and started a Templar family. He had 2 notable descendants, a nameless son, and a grandson named Cudgel Cormac, both almost as skilled as Shay himself (considering he trained them).

@Asdeox Shay Is Still In Assassin At Heart Really

Yas

Shay rules.

+Ioini Everson May the breakfast maker guide us

And you're a grandfather I'am happy that your grandson has joined the templar order in 1863

Hey I'm a pet cat of my owner and I'm hungry

yess

no Shay is templar you are templar Thomas Athey

Thomas Athey Shay will be #1 in my heart may the father of understanding guide us

@@assassinscreed3993 you think that "The Templars" and "The Assassins" are the only creeds existed ?.

I agre

+Assassin's Creed Univers Can you do a chronological timeline video of AC?

Tribute to Altaïr Ibn La'Ahad

May the father of understanding guide us

SNAKE y 😊

You know Ubisoft would make a Game that Arno and Shay would fight BUT DIDNT HAPPENED!!!!

Thanks :)

AssassinsDen4 o

It will be great if they but

Damn... I don't care.

The Italiano Assassini BrotherHood Mentore Then why'd you even comment?

To state my mind.

The Italiano Assassini BrotherHood Mentore This is why we need order...

The Italiano Assassini BrotherHood Mentore When you don't care? nice logic (y)

Franchement je comprend et j'admire le travail que tu fournies et sa difficulté, mais n'oublie SURTOUT pas que si ça te prend trop de ton temps rien ne t'empèche de faire une petite pause et de bien te concentrer sur tes études, nous seront patients. ;)

Assassin's Creed Univers Je pensais que Magemo allait le faire, c'est le meilleur

Assassin's Creed Univers franchement meme en anglais s est superbe

Assassin's Creed Univers Excuse me but SPEAK ENGLISH Please

Black Wolf LOL ! In France you need YOUR LIFE to learn French, it's a difficult language !

Kawai Desu-chan I personally think the Templars are right

idk guys but if that so... that gonna be shocking plot twist

Hey JoJi there are two worlds you can get. One where it is mostly peace and order with little to no death and corruption, but people aren't as free as they could be and live in an ordered world with little to no personality. The other is freedom which is what today is or at least the closest it can get to freedom. Assassins try to free people. But freedom brings drugs, murder, crimes, death and corruption along with happiness and life and personality. It's just a matter of what world you want.

@Suave Man finally people that get the meaning of the war between assassin and templar without insulting one of the two. and i hope ubisoft keep making the story and this time giving the choice to us the character, i want to make my own path and which side we are going to believe. i mean both sided has pro and contra, so give us he choice.

You know what? I always thought that Shay in the end started a third movement, it's own to help people and some sort of a third line that goes against both sides might be interesting

I'm going to work on one now lol Check it out once it's done if you like.

The Italiano Assassini BrotherHood Mentore Great, can't wait to see))

It will be an amazing game and plot

arbknight12 It could be such a great game! Imagine it set during the napoleonic wars. We would start out the game as Arno. He wouldn't be an assassin but still have his gear. And he would be a traveler roaming around france. Now at some point in the game Arno would get involved in the war and that would lead him back to the assassins where he'd then meet Connor who'd been called to europe since he at this point would be the american assassin mentor. Arno would be in his mid-thirties and connor would be around the age of 50-60. The game would be heavily based on the relationship between Arno and Connor as they are pretty different characters ut with very similar losses in their history. There would be heavy tension and conflict between the two but eventually they'd learn to respect one another. And in this game we would also meet Shay who would be an old man at this point. This meeting would be awesome as Shay has a strong bond to both characters past. In the game you'd obviously be able to play as both Arno and Connor and the game would be set in france and England mostly around the great canal. This is actually litterally just from the top of my head. What do you think?

Assassins Creed Syndicate stars two assassin twins that u can switch back and forth from GTA style (they're twins so they share DNA). I want a stand alone expansion where u play as Connor and Avelin and pre-Civil War America. :)

Also, Ubisoft has claimed to have learned their lesson and despite having two playable characters, Syndicate will not offer any form of co-op or multiplayer. :(

Jordan Jolivette Personally i think this is a good thing. But that's just because none of my friends play assassins creed so I don't have anyone to play it with anyway

+Peou Il faut le faire cet AC, c'est l'un des meilleurs, certes on voit que il a été fait rapidement, c'est un quasi copié-collé de Black Flag mais le scénario en vaut le détour croit moi, juste excellent :)

Arno's story seemed more tragic to me, that's why his tribute is more emotional. With Shay I wanted to try something much more epic ;)

And in my opinion, it was a success :D

Assassin's Creed Univers I don't know, Shay had to kill his old friends and allies, a process that was painful for him to do but he felt he had to do it. With all the people Shay had gotten killed in Lisbon, he knew the assassins could not continue with what they were doing.

Nate Junk "To be continued" is just here to make a transition between the Tribute to Shay and the tribute to Arno. But of course we will do more!

Assassin's Creed Univers Please make a tribute for Altair, the original one! I've watched all you videos, everywhere you used the Altair from Revelations, I don't like the voice of Revelations Altair, the original Altair had a much stronger voice. Please make a video, where the original Altair speaks in english!