Same.

Same here ! ... Alan in 🇨🇱

Great point!

Thank you Alan!

My 12×12 fit in the duffle bag sent with the tent ⛺️. Worked out great. Yes pole bag is HEAVY. ...Alan in 🇨🇱

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NIce, wish I had read this before I set mine up. It just occurred to me to try lashing it to a tree to help set it up and it turned out it worked. Never thought of using the car or a post. I just used a tree instead of a stake for the back and it worked perfectly fine. Figured if it helped me get the tent up, it was good enough to just leave it there.

I did the same. If there is a tree I use that - it can only make it more stable. The easiest way to set it up though is to ask for someone to help lift one side while you lift and tie the other. Lol

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Thank you for that helpful feedback - it is very helpful to hear.

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Very good suggestion. I know a lot of people do that at the Burning Man festival in the desert.

So glad it was helpful.

That's some crazy wind. So glad it held up. Thanks for sharing.

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Glad it was helpful!

You're so welcome!

Dog bone ties. Love it! That's definitely what I'll refer to them as now.

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Great question Buck. In one of the videos I think I have the camp chair pretty close to the wall and it didn't bother me any, but I'm not 6'4". The gear including cots and sleeping bags I stored around the perimeter which was perfect, but as for standing room I am picking about tents and being able to stand up straight and stretch out without my head or arms touching it. This tent was plenty big for that purpose and most of the time I'm in the tent I'm just sitting, sleeping, or kneeling to tend the fire. Standing and walking in and out and around - it felt very spacious and roomy to me. I went camping over this last weekend with a 12x9 and having spent a lot of time in the 12x12 over the winter there is a huge difference in space. I missed the 12x12. The walls begin tapering at 4'. I hope that helps. If not, please let me know.

Sorry for the delay Tim. We have two videos on the 6173. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5aplrJ3mqing4U.html and kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z61-hpqlx6qYqn0.html

@@Competitiveedgeproducts No worries brother, I've seen them. : - )

Very good question. I just measured the guy ropes and almost all of them come out about 5' feet. I could fudge it a bit smaller if I want to and I could extend them further (and probably would in a bad wind storm). That means your tent footprint is 12x12, but you'll need access to the ground measuring at about 22'x22'. Hope that makes sense. If I had trees nearby I'd even consider tying them to the trees for the best support. Let me know if you have any other questions.

I think it's supposed to have that stake loop. Can you email me a picture do you still have it set up? websales@competitiveedgeproducts.com

Did you decide? I’m having the same debate in my head for my family of 4. The lodge seems it would have a lot more useable space with the straight walls, but I’m not sure I want to set up all those poles and ropes. Wish I could see them I’m person

I’m in the same position. Tough decisions. I’m leaning towards the 12x12. Because if the stove cert.

I fold it so that it is always canvas touching canvas. Meaning, the bottom of the floor (even though I've dried it) doesn't touch the canvas. I start by folding it into thirds with the two edge side thirds meeting in the middle. Then I set the bag at the end so I can fold it again the same way in thirds, but to fit the length of the bag. I hope that helps. It sounds confusing to me just reading it and I'm the one who wrote it.

Good question. You can route it through the door. It has dual zippers and can zip up to the cord. That's what I did.

Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that. I spaced that. Yes, if I were not setting it up on soft grass I would have used a tarp. There is not 12x12 tarp in the Kodiak line...at least not yet. There also isn't a floor liner...yet. So, I would use the 12x9 tarp or the 10x14 tarp and fold the difference under. The floor is very thick so I don't think it would need to be used necessarily to protect it although it would in a sharp rocky area, but moreso to avoid wiping the bottom of the floor off with a towel to get the ground moisture off when rolling up the tent.

Competitive Edge Products, Inc Thank you. I just wanted to let you know that I purchased the tent from you earlier today and can’t wait to try it. Also, I got the Spruce stove direct from Colorado Cylinder. You can save money on shipping if you call them rather than use their website. By doing so I saved an additional $30. Looking forward to seeing more videos. Thank you 🙏

@@georgemitchell9114 Fantastic! Please reply back to this once you've tested it out as I'm sure the Kodiak community would love to hear how it goes. Thanks for the tip on the stove as well!

I found a 12x12 floor liner from Cabelas for their Alanak series tent. $99. If Kodiak decides not to make one it should work.

@@delcrow696 Do you have the sku for that on Cabela's site? I can't seem to find the 12x12 size.

Great question. It's 4' vertical until the walls slope in toward the 7.5' height.

I love the idea of lagbolts with washers and a driver. That's a must if you are camping in some desert clay or touch soil, but you have to be super careful not to damage the tent as those impact drivers can be super powerful. If you end up using them, please let us know. I know tons of people who go to burning man will use lagbolts and they swear by them.

You're referring to just the 4 corners right? They should have the double overlapping grommets as far as I'm aware (in video on 8:20 time).

Yeah yours overlap on each corner. Mine has just one grommet each corner . Just curious if it was supposed to have the dbl grommets overlapping on the corners.

2nd night of having the tent up 50plus mph winds and held up fine !!

The points don't expire. Please shoot me an email with your contact info so I can look up your order. chansen@competitiveedgeproducts.com

Absolutely. Our Cabin Tents are great for setting up for long hunts. The flex bow tents are great too, but they don't have stove jacks.

This tent includes 20 stakes.

@@Competitiveedgeproducts thank you.

Good question. Do you plan on using a stove? If so you should be fine, but have less space. As the kids become teenagers and require more gear and larger cots/bags you might not fit as well. If you don't plan on using a stove - and many people do not use a stove - then YES it will work for your family with plenty of space. Hope that helps.

Yes thank you so much can I order thru you?

@@banjobbqllc Absolutely. Here's a link to order. www.competitiveedgeproducts.com/6170-Kodiak-Canvas-Cabin-Stove-Lodge-Tent_p_3216.html Feel free to contact us with any other questions.

Good question. The tent was brand-new and just introduced and there were no ground tarp's 12 x 12 available at the time.

I've read your question a few times and can't quite understand your question. Can you rephrase that for me and I'll give it another shot? If you are asking whether the stove pipe is double walled it is not. It's nice that it's not as you want to get as much heat as you can from that fire whether it's from the stove or the pipe.

@@Competitiveedgeproducts when a stove is pot in a house and the stack is put in it has 2 wall's to help keep the heat away from the ceiling.

Put in

@@larrycapps7388 the ceiling isn't double-walled, no part of the canvas tent is, but the stove jack hole area is lined with silicone and has fireproof material (the grey area) around the silicone liner.

Would this tent be a good choice for large families? I’m wondering if it’s too big to use at state park campsites? Or if you need more open space to accommodate 22x22 for staking. Great video.

Yeah, I agree with that.

What do you mean? What's wrong with the stakes?

Those things are too flimsy. They bend easy as well.

@@iceman81179 You've bent one of these 12" steel stakes? How?

Oh the stakes are steal, not the usual aluminum stakes that most tents come with. My apologies. I have a few tents and the one they come with are garbage. I have 12 steel and composite stakes. My mistake I didn't hear what kind of stakes it comes with

@@iceman81179 you had me worried. :) Thanks for clarifying. Feel free to contact us with any other questions.