With every chance that Alonso COULD finish 2nd in this 2023 championship, come seasons end, assisted by Red Bull with their own handicapping of their own No 2 driver Perez.

They just need to replace Jnr with a real driver

By only one driver!!! 👏🏿 🏎

But now they are overvalued.

That interior design is pure class.

It certainly help that Lawrence Stroll is a bona fide motorhead.

Not with plain old V8 engines (except even less exciting than in cars like Camaros and Mustangs or BMW 5-series...) and the same exact touchscreen interiors that everyone else has. And not while going bankrupt (again, as usual).

Lol no

It’s certainly up there. If only they’d ditch the AMG engines.

Aston Martin is something people my grandparents age are obsessed with... they have a lot of work to do to become 'cool'

@@fukuoka33 agreed. the above is a silly comment

No, what will happen is it will open the European and US market even further to Geely and PLA.

China …..slowly slowly catchee monkee…..everywhere

Geely/Chinese aim to take over Aston Martin in the long run, they already own 51 % lotus 82% Volvo Proton etc etc……. These people are beginning to dominate everywhere…….properties , shareholders on anything/everything, controlling/owning certain ENTIRE ports; the west’s profiteering by buying their inferior lookalike/knock off cheaper poor quality goods to make their own profits is what has helped put China in the strong financial position she is in today. Shame on you, entrepreneurs, you contributed to China’s increasing power of today……..and your‘couldn’t have foreseen’ answer is inadequate.

That's for sure, cotton wool a

Lance may not be championship material, but he's certainly not a slouch.

No it hasn’t. Have you looked at the numbers? They’re drowning in debt and aren’t making ANY money at all. Just huge losses. To be fair a year ago I made a 100Percent win on AM stock.

Is it still a good time to buy you think? How much money have you made off it so far? That 56%? If you don't mind me asking..

@@jonleger1157 Not looking so good, I trimmed about 30% at the highs but the remaining is down precisely -32% as we speak. Loses are widening so lets see if they can get that under control as for now the product lineup is solid.

He needs to get rid of his son in the F1 seat. Lance sucks.

If you told me in January 2023 that Aston Martin would be vying for second place this year, I would have realized you know nothing about F1... And their new facility/wind tunnel isn't completely online yet!

My point was a bit different. Taking over Aston Martin's management leadership has been a business goal, and achieving success with F 1 team is nothing but passion. Perfect combo business and passion

@@pierremarcoux9465 - AMRF1 is currently 3rd in the WCC standings after 7 races for 2023. They were 2nd place before the SpanishGP 2023 but both Mercedes drivers scored more points than the solo ALPHA-lonso and Mercedes moved to 2nd place while AMRF1 dropped to 3rd place. Now, after 7 races for 2023, IF Ferrari have fixed their issues, both drivers thru the season will outscore the solo ALPHA-lonso and by the end of the season for 2023 AMRF1 could drop to 4th place on the WCC standings. Thank-you Lance Stroll.🙄

@jonasjonaitis8571 - +💯....👍

Had Lawrence Stroll decided to sideline his son in favour of Sebasian Vettel, the combination of Alonso and Vettel as Aston Martin drivers would have gotten every single F1 fan to talk about this lethal combination of drivers!

And on top of that, they didn't call the DB9 the DB8 because they didn't want people to think it was a V8 😂

Honda

They literally still sell some models with their own engine. But now they're phasing that out due to unbelievably incompetent strategic decisions which led them right into a dead end with that engine. They had to sink in so much money into the next gen of the Mercedes mass-produced ordinary V8 that they now can't invest into developing the V12 to keep it, and to keep their top-luxury status.

@@pistonburner6448 They blitzed huge sums of money on the Valkyrie with its complex suspension and bespoke hybrid engine. It looks like a fantastic car and everything but I can’t help but think it was a crying shame that they didn’t invest in the bread and butter models over their vanity project. They probably could have sorted their interiors and sat nav out ages ago and had enough left over for their own V8 or whatever. However to survive the ban on combustion cars they’ll need the support of third parties and I’d rather they partnered with AMG than Geely so I guess there is some logic to the arrangement. Plus the cost of buying engines from AMG is significantly cheaper than the ruinous cost of developing a new engine.

@@enigmatwist6548 Why on Earth would they want to have their own V8? They already have their own V12! They burned a lot of money on Valhalla, having to switch engines half way through, then they still had to spend a lot of money on that Mercedes V8 (which people will not pay as much money for). And they've wasted a lot of money on them overall, as they had to switch to the new version of the Merc V8s! That too is a lot of work...in addition to the vast sums they have to pay Merc for them. They could've updated the V12 instead, and gotten rid of the hugely expensive Mercedes relationship which they have to pay a lot for in general and in addition per car! Why pay *_your competitor_* for engines?! Why would anyone pay for V8 Aston Martins? They're WORSE than BMW's sedans in every measurable way! Finally basically all their competitors got rid of V12s and _that's_ when the 'geniuses' of Aston Martin decided to get rid of their V12: just when they would've had an almost totally unique selling point which others don't have!

​@pistonburner6448 you just referenced a BMW sedan V8? Alright, so the typical response from someone who has never owned an Aston designed/built engine... they are far more reliable than BMW V8s, have tons of tuning/modding potential, and oh yeah... track pedigree such as a dry sump system to actually handle track duties.

How so? DBX isn't the success it should be, multiple projects needed to be delayed and cancelled, basically all their product line is old and watered down (they even had to give up their signature and top-of-the-line V12s in the new DB12 model and use the cheap, mass-produced, totally ordinary Mercedes unit instead)... They just had to sell out a large proportion of themselves to China and hope the Chinese can save them! What could be better proof that they themselves know they're not going to end up doing well?! Selling out to China is always the ultimate sign of total failure (though Aston only sold part of itself so not total yet...), as that shows that even Western companies don't want to pay for you.

Not really they're still not turning a profit haven't in a decade

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Always warms me to see Mercedes fan bois burning up 😂