ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY LENS SHOOTOUT! Tokina 20mm f/2.0 vs Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 vs. Sony 24mm f/1.4

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4 жыл бұрын

With the help of my friends at B&H Photo I was lucky enough to spend a beautiful night under the stars in Mount Rainier National Park to find out if the new astro-oriented primes are really up to snuff.
Since there are already enough write-ups on these lenses offering top-tier nerdism with studio lighting, hardcore pixel peeping and technical readouts of microcontrast to keep even the most voracious researcher occupied for weeks I decided to focus more on the intangible aspect of photography. Are these lenses enjoyable to use? Do they weigh down my backpack like a brick of lead (I’m lookin’ at you, Sigma), focus easily, and deliver consistent, beautiful results? In short, if I was a passionate photographer with a limited budget, and I am, which one would I buy?
nateinthewild
www.nateluebbe.com
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Lenses Featured;
Sony 24mm f/1.4 - geni.us/2FABbhX
Tokina Firin 20mm f/2.0 - geni.us/ZZnqeI
Voightlander 21mm f/1.4 - geni.us/GnF7
Cameras Used -
a7R iii - geni.us/NLR4
a7 iii - geni.us/NxTHG6

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@karafuru7666 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this helpful video. Not to many people make the effort to astro test these lenses like this. I actually debated about the voigtlander 21 vs the sony 24 a few months back for astro. I ended up with the voigtlander 21 simply because it was wider and the only other F1.4 is the Sigma 20 which does not take threaded filters.

@ElemotionPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

Nice work Nate, enjoyed this and the shots looked great.

@Nateinthewild 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud!

@heyramineni 4 жыл бұрын

I loved this video. Thanks for making it.

@AlumarsX 4 жыл бұрын

Would've been nice to see the lenses stopped down a bit to f2 or 2.8 where vignetting and coma almost goes away entirely.

@locidemos 4 жыл бұрын

I love your videos! Any chance you have or will compare the Sigma art 20mm 1.4 and the new Sony 20mm 1.8 g ? I work as a northern light guide and have used the Sigma for years with an adapter on my sony. Now the lens unfortunetely broke and I'm wondering if I should really buy the Sony 20mm or if I go with the Sigma again.

@Spartacus1975 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comparison 👍🏼 I use for astrophotography my Sony 16-35 F 2.8 GM but now I'm looking for a faster lens. Weight is also a topic as I do it during mountaineering in the Alps. The new Sony 20mm F 1.8 looks great (24mm is not wide enough for me; for panos you need more shots), the best would be the Sigma 14mm F 1.8 but it's so heavy 🙈

@MrDamburger 4 жыл бұрын

you're better off finding a second hand 24 1.4 and a laowa 15mm f2. i have this setup with a tamron 28-75 too, and its insane. im glad i didnt buy the gm 16-35 its huge and heavy and 2.8. also the sharpness of the laowa and 24 are ridiculous

@yazzster Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. Where did you camp to get that shot? I am new to PNW and am looking for advice on locations for landscape shots. Going to Dark Sky festival in Jasper this fall and want to develop skills ahead of that

@jaypaul6091 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info! Also -- brand of computer stand? I need a 20mm and one of those too!

@SnapographyAP 3 жыл бұрын

My 24gm is so good that I hardly ever take it off the camera. Shocked at the Voigtlander. I agree about the focus, needs more throw

@ryanaegis3544 2 ай бұрын

By the numbers on B&H, the Voigtlander takes up less space than the Sony but weighs a quarter of a pound more. 1.0 versus 1.25 pounds doesn't seem like much but it is the difference between a plastic and a metal housing.

@Fotogoscar 4 жыл бұрын

Hope my firin 20mm that arrives today is a good copy. I went for this over the Sony 20mm f1.8 because mint condition went for $390. Currently using the Samyang 14mm f2.8 and don't like it. The strong vignetting and strong distortion did it for me.

@y.h.4221 3 жыл бұрын

Any news about your lens? How went the field testing?

@Anarki2U 4 жыл бұрын

Voigtländer Lenses are made in Japan by Cosina ! Zeiss Loxia are also made in Japan by Cosina ! But made in Japan can be just as good and sometimes better than made in Germany ;)

@williamchan8866 Жыл бұрын

You should try the sigma 40mm f1.4 as far as Astro go it is perfection, only down side is the field of view.

@thirdmort 4 жыл бұрын

Especially with the announcement of the Sony 20 1.8 now, I'd love to see a comparison between 20mm and 24mm for night. I bought the 24 1.4 Sony in November and haven't really had a chance to take it out night shooting. My history is with the Samyang 14 or Canon 35 1.4. I'm worried about the width honestly. Would be neat to see the direct comparo. Thanks!

@Nateinthewild 4 жыл бұрын

That'll be coming up shortly, don't you worry!

@gunnarjayden6840 3 жыл бұрын

I guess I'm kinda off topic but does anybody know a good place to watch new series online ?

@royalronan1418 3 жыл бұрын

@Gunnar Jayden ehh I watch on Flixportal. You can find it if you google=) -royal

@gunnarjayden6840 3 жыл бұрын

@Royal Ronan Thank you, signed up and it seems like a nice service :) I appreciate it !!

@royalronan1418 3 жыл бұрын

@Gunnar Jayden you are welcome :D

@connornash7017 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have any plans to do an Astrophotography tutorial in the near future? Would love to see your process from composition to exposure to post. Cheers!

@Nateinthewild 4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely have plans for that :)

@connornash7017 4 жыл бұрын

@@Nateinthewild Sweet! Thanks

@Esteb86 4 жыл бұрын

To get rid of the vignette, you could stop down a bit. Maybe 1.4 to 2 or even 2.8. I know that destroys the purpose of having a 1.4, but it fixes the vignette

@godsinbox 2 жыл бұрын

yes but in a true dark sky, you so need the 1.4

@ericvandenbandt 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Nate, just noticed that in the video, in the part on the Voigtlander, you've selected a Lightroom profile correction for a Voigtlander Heliar lens. These profiles are fairly different between lenses, and I was wondering if you had tried the Nokton profile, and if so what the result of that profile was. I did find your review on the internet as well, could you tell me what profile was used there? I am considering the Voigtlander, and yours is the only review on this subject I could fine. Thanks for the great video!

@Nateinthewild 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Eric, at the time I filmed this I don't believe there was a Nokton profile in Lightroom so I went with the closest (based on what Lightroom suggested). I'm definitely interested in trying out a different profile now that it's available though, and I'll let you know what I find!

@ericvandenbandt 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nateinthewild That explains it. It would be great to see if that would improve the vignetting. Thanks for the reply!

@Nateinthewild 3 жыл бұрын

@@ericvandenbandt You know, I don't think it would change much. The vignette is an under-exposure of the corners, so you can only "improve" it so much before it just gets super noisy. I believe there's a few examples of that in this video, where the vignette correction raises the shadows in the corners so far it actually looks worse.

@ericvandenbandt 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nateinthewild You may be right. I'm in the process of getting a 2ndhand Voigtlander for an A7s, so I'll let you know if I can try it out!

@JSecordphoto 4 жыл бұрын

I had high hopes for the tokina 20, but the first copy I bought the aperture ring spun freely and was fairly decentered, and the replacement copy was horribly decentered. The Sony 24 seems like a real winner

@Nateinthewild 4 жыл бұрын

That's great feedback. I got a good copy, but it's good to know if they're suffering from QC issues.

@thomasploner9424 3 жыл бұрын

I need your experiences please - you nowadays had the chance of getting a used 24mm GM at the same price as the 20mm 1.8, which one would be your choice? Use is hiking, travel and occasional astro of course 😉

@Nateinthewild 3 жыл бұрын

I have a video specifically comparing those two lenses! For me the 20mm is the favorite.

@thomasploner9424 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nateinthewild thanks!

@Bryan.Conley 4 жыл бұрын

Well look at this! A new video!

@Nateinthewild 4 жыл бұрын

Haha about dang time, huh?!

@Bryan.Conley 4 жыл бұрын

@@Nateinthewild Totally! Can't wait to see what else you have in store! To your note about the focus on Sony lenses being too fast, or sensitive, I totally agree. I use manual focus a ton while photographing birds for example. It gets rather frustrating how fast I can pass the sweet spot. Practice helped me learn to have better control over it, but I have sure missed a ton of shots along the way.

@marcusoutdoors4999 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve worked something out from other comparisons of Voigtlander lenses on Sony and Leica. Basically the thicker filter stack in front of the sensor on Sony and maybe the phases AF (my conjecture on the last point) do impact the performance. QED the results are spot on for Sony but, excuse the pun, absolutely fail to paint the picture of how Voigtlander lenses work on other systems, specifically Leica. Ultimately though maybe the bigger question is why Voigtlander are letting lenses that perform badly on Sony digital sensors out of the factory while at the same time creating a tailored mount. Conclusion buy Sony for Sony.

@SidneyPratt Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I do prefer a 24mm.

@Olexanderko 4 жыл бұрын

Have you tried Zeiss Batis 18 or 25 mm? You will be surprised.

@Nateinthewild 4 жыл бұрын

They are fantastic lenses, but f/2.8 isn't fast enough to make me consider the purchase. I already have the 16-35mm f/2.8 so if I am adding a lens in that focal length range then the aperture needs to be significantly different for me to justify the expense.

@360icon 2 жыл бұрын

Last night i watched this- i have the nokton 21 on order . Today i ordered the sony 20mm g - have til feb. to try carefully- the voightlander lenses sold me on the way they render is unique and the build quality - will see if i like the Sony??

@08_crown_vic 3 жыл бұрын

Is the milky way only in one direction? Like only north?

@Nateinthewild 3 жыл бұрын

Correct, but it's generally south/southeast (in the northern hemisphere)

@acouragefann 2 жыл бұрын

I'd expect the Sony to be superior, considering it costs almost 2.5 times as much as the Tokina (and almost 3 times as much as Samyangs 24mm 1.8) ;)

@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын

Wish you had the 20mm F1.8 G in that test... I guess that wasn't out yet.

@Nateinthewild 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I wish it was in here too but the Sony 24mm was the widest at the time.

@godsinbox 2 жыл бұрын

wish he had 14mm sony f1.8 in the review

@Anarki2U 4 жыл бұрын

If you have a Sony camera, use at least Capture One Express...

@morgankane4115 2 жыл бұрын

Voigtlander lenses are made in Japan. And have been for decades I think.

@ych8312 3 жыл бұрын

lmfao the vignetting on voigtlander almost looks identical to sony's and it's somehow limiting the 'artistic choice' while sony's vignetting is and 'artistic choice'. What a joke

@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын

You can't blow out your legs! They are not tires ^-^

@Nateinthewild 3 жыл бұрын

Haha oh let me tell you, you can ABSOLUTELY blow out your legs. I've seen it happen a dozen times where someone hikes so hard they literally can't stand up anymore.

@ExploreTravelCapture 4 жыл бұрын

If you need to colab with someone to grow your channel 😝

@Nateinthewild 4 жыл бұрын

Let's do itttttt

@ExploreTravelCapture 4 жыл бұрын

Nateinthewild ok just fly out here to Florida... or maybe meet in the middle. WhTs in the middle?

@stephenedmunds207 3 жыл бұрын

I would go for the voigtlander because agents of sony are clearly afraid of it.

@Nateinthewild 3 жыл бұрын

I don't even know what this means

@stephenedmunds207 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nateinthewild it means you should have mentioned your sony bias at the start of the video.....cosina make voigtlander lenses in japan,they just use the old german name,....might seem rude but i prefer disclosure of bias before a review so i can look elsewhere.

@Nateinthewild 3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenedmunds207 What if I don't have a bias and it's all entirely in your head? What if you're just mad at an imaginary scenario?

@stephenedmunds207 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nateinthewild After slaughtering the voigtlander and down playing the tokina you informed us that sony sponsor you [11 minutes into your 16 minute video] !! then you tell us that the sony lens is amazing.....i have a leica m262 thanks to a pension and have considered the leica version of the voigtlander especially after great reviews/pictures on the fred miranda sony forum but maybe just stick with my zeiss 25mm f2.8 zm after this video? I simply maintain that at the outset of your video you should disclose your sony connection.

@earshelhogan6148 3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenedmunds207 Nate tested all three lenses thoroughly, explained the pros and cons of each lens, and displayed sample photos corroborating his findings. He found that the Sony lens performed the best out of the three lenses that he tested. Do you disagree with his findings after examining the data that he provided? It is up to you to decide, based on the evidence, which lens performed best. I do appreciate that Nate offered us the conclusion that he came to, but that's not gospel (even though I agree with him). As a new Sony user who is considering different lenses for astro, I appreciate the comparisons, Nate, and you've gained a sub. Keep up the good work!