ATC Controller's UNINTELLIGIBLE clearance creates CHAOS!

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@GWNorth-db8vn
@GWNorth-db8vn Ай бұрын
Even when he's sarcastically over-enunciating every word, he still can't manage better than "cleraalan"
@charleskennedy1712
@charleskennedy1712 Ай бұрын
I love when he sarcastically reads the wind and runway slowly, he STILL manages to garble the important bit
@dronefox2619
@dronefox2619 Ай бұрын
Haha I noticed the same thing 😂
@user-cw9qn1nb2n
@user-cw9qn1nb2n Ай бұрын
Why cannot these controllers be instructed to say: " Cleared to land.", instead of clearalan? Would take an extra half-second, and would save numerous extra calls from pilots seeking confirmation of what they think the controller said, or didn't say.
@davesnothere.
@davesnothere. Ай бұрын
He's being pushed for efficiency and is slurring his words due to repetition. He's also quick keying and stepping on the pilots' transmissions. I'm glad I don't live in L.A. or fly anymore.
@siras2
@siras2 Ай бұрын
​@@davesnothere.Agreed, but he has a responsibility to make his instructions clear and unambiguous - from time to time supervisors listen in to radio exchanges so I'm astonished he's not been picked up for this. An indistinct "Clealan" might sound slick, but sloppy rt procedure is unprofessional and can easily lead to misunderstandings.
@annoyingbstard9407
@annoyingbstard9407 Ай бұрын
I thought it was cliddalan.
@williamharpine1841
@williamharpine1841 Ай бұрын
@@annoyingbstard9407 :)
@user-cw9qn1nb2n
@user-cw9qn1nb2n Ай бұрын
@@annoyingbstard9407 You are correct. My bad spelling.....and hearing!
@benbunch4159
@benbunch4159 Ай бұрын
Wow this is like, an SNL sketch. Even after being told he can’t be understood he keeps doing it.
@alwaysfishhard4953
@alwaysfishhard4953 Ай бұрын
chris kattan reporting for duty.
@heatheridoni1213
@heatheridoni1213 Ай бұрын
@@alwaysfishhard4953 I was thinking the exact same thing.
@CheatOnlyDeath
@CheatOnlyDeath Ай бұрын
Perfect comment.
@russbell6418
@russbell6418 28 күн бұрын
He seems to be speaking Slurvian. Needs to repeat 2nd grade.
@williamharpine1841
@williamharpine1841 Ай бұрын
The French pilot spoke better English than the controller.
@jednick
@jednick Ай бұрын
Can you imagine being a foreign pilot and trying to understand that?
@marcelogouveia9614
@marcelogouveia9614 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 Best comment ever!
@Jump-2-the-moon
@Jump-2-the-moon Ай бұрын
Man, try listening to this video without captions and see if you can understand what the controller is saying. I looked away for a second and realized I couldn’t understand what he was saying at all.
@middleagedcrazy5297
@middleagedcrazy5297 Ай бұрын
Then try and imagine it in the cockpit with all the other little noises creeping in under the headset along with preoccupation of flying your aircraft. Clear and concise ATC coms is key to the most important factor, safety!
@UnbeatenPath1
@UnbeatenPath1 Ай бұрын
It's really not hard if you do it for a living
@johndonovan7018
@johndonovan7018 Ай бұрын
now try that while flying and with a ton of ambient noise around you...
@christophersaunders
@christophersaunders Ай бұрын
as a retired air traffic controller, I would still like that tower (local) controller show me how he can clear multiple aircraft to use the same runway at the same time under FAA regulations....... sigh the sloppiness is appalling
@ku4uv
@ku4uv Ай бұрын
Yeah I agree. I have to turn on captioning whenever Biden speaks too.
@roscoejones4515
@roscoejones4515 Ай бұрын
"Ah ah redda tol ya tra tams ya cleralan. Tra listen ta tha werds am tallin ya! On ma tam cleralan!"
@protomake1349
@protomake1349 Ай бұрын
LOL, youtube is giving me an option to translate your comment to english!
@johndonovan7018
@johndonovan7018 Ай бұрын
literally a translate to english appears under that lamo laaammaaao
@alexartukov
@alexartukov Ай бұрын
@@johndonovan7018 It works not only for English. This KZfaq feature offers to translate many slang phrases to the same language. Looks ridiculous! 😁
@spidey2085
@spidey2085 Ай бұрын
​@@protomake1349 That's what i found even more hilarious 🤣
@regmemer9198
@regmemer9198 Ай бұрын
Fedex making a big deal over nothing, it was obvious they were cleralan.
@robertbarth4723
@robertbarth4723 Ай бұрын
This controller has no business handling this level of responsibility given he is completely unable to speak and enunciate properly. I am a native western American English speaker and I can barely understand him. This is dangerous.
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 Ай бұрын
And they will be the first to complain about foreign pilots
@danizweifler6061
@danizweifler6061 Ай бұрын
question: are you a real pilot too or "only" a native western American English speaker............. ?.... that's gonna make a difference i.m. eyes..................
@efoxxok7478
@efoxxok7478 Ай бұрын
As a pilot since 1978, and a retired controller I had no problem understanding anything. If you are not a pilot chances are you might have trouble understanding because the phraseology is unfamiliar and your brain needs to translate. That doesn’t explain how a fedex pilot couldn’t figure it out, it was plain and in the expected order.
@sara0028
@sara0028 Ай бұрын
@@efoxxok7478 I disagree. While the controller DID say “cleared to land” the FedEx Pilot Not Flying responded the first time with “Okay Number 2”. He did not respond with a cleared to land acknowledgment. He then queried the controller who stated ‘Number 1 cleared to land’. Then the FedEx pilot not flying wanted clarification of ‘cleared to land’ to make sure he heard it correctly. Instead of the controller saying a short “ affirmative, Cleared to Land”, he opted for a longer “ this is the third time, etc” at which the FedEx said “ you did not… “ instead of a more diplomatic “we didn’t hear it or understand it…”. It was issued and it was in the correct order. But it was not plain or easy to understand. In fact, in one of the transmissions, he was very clear in EVERYTHING else except the “cleared to land”. He was rushing it and making it sound like one word, with the word “land” always trailing off into a “laaaa”. Communication and understanding with a clear acknowledgment is key in this world, and if anyone fails to fully hear, understand, and acknowledge, it’s ok, appropriate and necessary to ask for clarification
@efoxxok7478
@efoxxok7478 Ай бұрын
@sara0028 all I said was the controller did clear him to land twice. It was given in the correct format and I understood it each time. I fail to nderstand how the FedEx pilot didn’t get it.
@mignav464
@mignav464 Ай бұрын
In all honesty, even with all the accents of different countries here in Europe, I have never had real problems understanding the key instructions, like landing clearances. But this controller is just unprofessional, emphasizing minor information pieces and mumbling the important ones away. Unbelievable.
@dashford06
@dashford06 Ай бұрын
This controller has the weirdest intonation I’ve ever heard. He needs to work on his diction.
@Jump-2-the-moon
@Jump-2-the-moon Ай бұрын
I don’t even know what the hell accent that is lol
@rona4960
@rona4960 Ай бұрын
@@Jump-2-the-moon I was thinking maybe a light Cajun
@HiddenWindshield
@HiddenWindshield Ай бұрын
@@rona4960 Sounds a little Asian to me. Maybe a mix; he may have been born in Asia, then learned English from a native Louisianian?
@rona4960
@rona4960 Ай бұрын
@@HiddenWindshield Well, that's a horrible thought. Learning English from a Louisianan?
@lapipesmoker3751
@lapipesmoker3751 Ай бұрын
​@@Jump-2-the-moonhe sounds like my relatives from Lafayette, Louisiana.
@peterknight4692
@peterknight4692 Ай бұрын
the classic mistake - assuming speed of speech equals efficiency
@EstorilEm
@EstorilEm Ай бұрын
This guy needs to watch JFK tower for a day to see how it's actually done if he wants to talk that fast, lol.
@zachansen8293
@zachansen8293 Ай бұрын
speed of speech does set an upper limit on how much you can say but it doesn't mean you've achieved that limit.
@EtiRats
@EtiRats Ай бұрын
And speed of speech from the sender rarely equals speed of understanding by the listener…..
@mikemanning5019
@mikemanning5019 Ай бұрын
Same thing with speech and intelligence.
@williambeatty7781
@williambeatty7781 Ай бұрын
The control is hard to understand at times ! The pilot was right he didn't say clearly to land the previous time he said your number one !
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 Ай бұрын
diversity in them their tone
@DinoDiniProductions
@DinoDiniProductions Ай бұрын
​@@jamescollier3Go boil an egg, you nut
@FalconX88
@FalconX88 Ай бұрын
rewatch it, he said "clear to land" every time. The problem is the way he says it, it comes out as a "clearaland"
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 Ай бұрын
When native English speakers find this ATC difficult to understand, I shudder to think of what some foreign pilots have to deal with at this airport. I realize it's a busy place and the ATCs are under pressure, but speaking that rapidly and mumbling half the words is counterproductive. It works when the pilots know what to expect and can pluck the right syllables out of the garble, but it could be disaster if they misinterpret. Kudos to the pilot that required two repeats!
@jakebottero4740
@jakebottero4740 Ай бұрын
Maybe he's drunk
@Die4dutch2
@Die4dutch2 Ай бұрын
Might be easier for foreign pilots as they deal with foreign accents all the time. If you listen to different type of accents often it does get easier for me. Perhaps the fedex pilot only flies in the us and isn’t used to hearing an accent that isn’t the easiest to decipher. Go to Southeast Asia and I feel like this is all you hear
@marklnz
@marklnz Ай бұрын
You know that not all foreigners are non-english speakers, right? The language is literally named after a country other than the US. Half the world is native english speaking. I think what you probably mean is that when even US citizens, more used to the many different accents and dialects in this country, struggle to understand this, it must be so much worse for those from other countries, native english speakers or not.
@Die4dutch2
@Die4dutch2 Ай бұрын
@@marklnz Idk if ur comment was in response to mine. But if so, it’s the complete opposite that I mean. First of all, half of the world is native English speaker is a delusional comment, it’s more like 5%. Secondly, pilots come across way more accents flying in Asia and Europe than in America. Idk how you think flying in the us exposes you to a whole lot of accents? What I mean is, when you come across a whole lot of accents, it’s gets easier deciphering the tougher or harsher ones with time.
@marklnz
@marklnz Ай бұрын
@@Die4dutch2 nope. I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the OP.
@cuban84fun
@cuban84fun Ай бұрын
I'm a retired ATC 25+ years, Tower, Approach and Center. In the last 6 years the screening and training has been so dumbed down as to be dangerous. There was a time this controller never would have made it through the academe.
@Rallarbusen
@Rallarbusen Ай бұрын
I take it you go through regular physical examinations. How is hearing checked? Is it just the audiogram with simple single frequency tones in the ear-pieces? Bad hearing leads to unclear speech.
@Mr12348558
@Mr12348558 Ай бұрын
I flew Navy 4 engine a/c for 25 years. I’d be interested in your opinion as a veteran in the tower and ATC….. this guy sounds like he’s trying too hard to be fast and cool. He’s compressing and truncating his words unnecessarily. “Cleared To Land” is one of the most crucial instructions we can receive. We all strain to hear it clearly. I believe this controller needs to be pulled and counseled to annunciate and speak clearly and sent for retraining. Otherwise, he is risking a disaster. What do you think ? Thanks.
@spencera3075
@spencera3075 Ай бұрын
I heard “FedEx 3745…contraband…” 😂
@QFWP
@QFWP Ай бұрын
Completely agree, his enunciation , particularly "cleared to land" leaves a lot to be desired - he rolls words together rather than having specific breaks.
@usaturnuranus
@usaturnuranus Ай бұрын
ATC speaking Creojun Louississippianese dialect.
@marcoosvald8429
@marcoosvald8429 Ай бұрын
Bullshit. I'm from Louisiana and we don't speak like that. That is Spanglish sir.
@usaturnuranus
@usaturnuranus Ай бұрын
@@marcoosvald8429 I was joking. You're probably right about the Spanglish.
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 Ай бұрын
With a little bit of speedy sluring thrown in .
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 Ай бұрын
​@@marcoosvald8429souther hick
@georgesheffield1580
@georgesheffield1580 Ай бұрын
​@@marcoosvald8429southern hick
@pyme495
@pyme495 Ай бұрын
I've listened to this a few times. I can't decide if he has an odd accent (and if so, from where), or a speech impediment, or a combination of both. Regardless, it does make him rather difficult to understand at times, which could lead to disaster if a pilot just "assumed" he was hearing what he "thought" he should be hearing at a certain time. Asking for clarification is certainly not unreasonable from the pilots, but it starts to jam up the frequency. It's a mess.
@gavinsingh4450
@gavinsingh4450 Ай бұрын
Sounds like a New England accent combined with an impediment like a cleft!
@AndersMcA
@AndersMcA 23 күн бұрын
Yeah I immediately thought speech impediment. I’m a native English speaking pilot and it was incredibly hard to decipher any of his clearances.
@bishwatntl
@bishwatntl Ай бұрын
since when does "clun" equal "cleared to land"?
@erika8357
@erika8357 Ай бұрын
New ATC phraseology in effect since a month ago 😝 just kidding
@artycharr
@artycharr Ай бұрын
I swore he was caling the pilot a clitorus.
@1mouseman
@1mouseman Ай бұрын
Air France always adds a little bit of class to an ATC recording
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower Ай бұрын
I agree on this point 😃
@Danimalpm1
@Danimalpm1 Ай бұрын
Like wiping your @#& with silk.
@danentwisle8885
@danentwisle8885 Ай бұрын
The controller sounds like a South Park character.
@wal707
@wal707 28 күн бұрын
clee a lan respect my authoritay
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 Ай бұрын
Even when this Tower operator slows down and in an attempt to slowly repeat what he has ordered him to do, he still fails to say the word cleared all he says is to land. This is not a ship that's trying to see the shore. This is an aircraft that needs clear guidance that they are cleared to land not cut TL or some other gobbledygook. He needs clear instruction
@mattpayne3349
@mattpayne3349 Ай бұрын
The ATC reminds of the English comedy sketch from years ago when a prospective train station announcer was being auditioned and you couldn't understand a single word he said. He got the job because he was just what they were looking for..
@rawcado
@rawcado Ай бұрын
comedy sketch about a job interview for the role of "Station Announcer." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNKnoaZ23MqZgas.html
@Tom_Losh
@Tom_Losh Ай бұрын
Controller sounds like a tobacco auctioneer from North Carolina. I had a very difficult time trying to parse what he was saying. He needs to slow down - it isn't a contest to see how fast he can talk. He also needs to vastly improve his diction.
@alexr5557
@alexr5557 Ай бұрын
I’ve never understood how aircraft can be cleared to land when there is traffic on final ahead and/or on the Runway. In the UK and Europe ‘cleared to land’ means there are no aircraft on approach to the same runway ahead of you to land and that the runway is clear of all traffic and you are cleared to land or Go Around.
@willpv23
@willpv23 27 күн бұрын
Exactly, it makes zero sense that the American is cleared to land BEFORE the plane occupying the runway is even cleared for takeoff. How can you be "cleared" to land when there's a massive plane blocking the runway and not even moving yet?
@Rob2
@Rob2 26 күн бұрын
That is true, but it also means that sometimes you get cleared to land only when you are already above the approach lights.... It seems that Americans don't like that, and prefer to get a landing clearance 2 miles before for it then to be canceled when they are above the threshold.
@OCinneide
@OCinneide 25 күн бұрын
It’s such a strange system, if there’s any fog and an aircraft rejects the takeoff and their communication is stepped on then there will be a massive crash.
@Rob2
@Rob2 25 күн бұрын
@@OCinneide That is another strange thing: that in 2024 aviation still uses that antique communication system that allows parties to "step on eachother" and make messages unreadable...
@tomhiggins2562
@tomhiggins2562 Ай бұрын
I ran the conversation at 3/4 speed and still had trouble understanding that controller.
@douglasc9182
@douglasc9182 Ай бұрын
That controllers ridiculous drawl is brutally unintelligible.
@tomhiggins2562
@tomhiggins2562 Ай бұрын
I don't know how anyone could understand that controller clearly. I fly a small aircraft and I'd find it next to impossible to get every word he says. Controllers need to be able to speak clearly and enunciate their words clearly as a single misunderstanding by a pilot could lead to disaster. This guy's drawl is a real impediment in a busy cockpit.
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 Ай бұрын
I'm British, and can hear "clurdelarnd" "lurnupnwade" (Line up and wait), The "caution wake turbulence" at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="111">1:51</a> was "currsinwtrblns"
@ADuckOnQuack97
@ADuckOnQuack97 Ай бұрын
US ATC has a huge issue of speaking way too fast, which leads to expectation bias and complacency. An accident will eventually happen because of this. And we’ve already seen so many close incidents in the past years. Ridiculous
@bobwilson758
@bobwilson758 Ай бұрын
That is just great - they hire an air traffic controller with a speech impediment ! Great - You must be joking !
@mapolinski
@mapolinski Ай бұрын
Diversity is our Strength!
@garrettswoodworx1873
@garrettswoodworx1873 Ай бұрын
DEI!
@DinoDiniProductions
@DinoDiniProductions Ай бұрын
​@@mapolinskigrow up
@rawcado
@rawcado Ай бұрын
@@DinoDiniProductions Respect for diversity is clearly not your strength.
@JeremyBechtold
@JeremyBechtold Ай бұрын
That controller has either a weird accent or a speech impediment that makes it difficult to understand him.
@davidhall7811
@davidhall7811 Ай бұрын
That controller is slurring his words.
@gastonpossel
@gastonpossel Ай бұрын
One would think that such a critical clearance should be exceptionally clear, especially if clarification is requested. Fight for your ego later.
@kewkabe
@kewkabe Ай бұрын
In Nawleans speak, "cuda-lah" means "cleared to land." "Tublence" means "turbulence."
@gcorriveau6864
@gcorriveau6864 Ай бұрын
Ultimately, Fedex never did get told: "Cleared To Land". (as in three words)... It was always "clertalnd" every time. I'm still trying to find that in my aviation lexicon! 🙂 Imagine trying to understand that after (probably?) flying all night and being busy flying/configuring an aircraft for landing. d'oh!!
@jim2lane
@jim2lane Ай бұрын
Not sure what kind of accent that ATC has, but he really shouldn't be pushing tin at a hub like LAX. That's just an accident waiting to happen
@Soleniae
@Soleniae Ай бұрын
that controller did his human best to condense 3 words down to a single syllable. also keying his mic so fast he's stepping on transmissions left and right. even if this is a bad day for him, it's an unacceptably poor performance that needs remediation
@shawon_rahaman
@shawon_rahaman Ай бұрын
Super High and super fast controller 🙇
@bsmith1164
@bsmith1164 Ай бұрын
If he'd slow down by 10%, it would help immensely
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower Ай бұрын
@@bsmith1164 exactly
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower Ай бұрын
@@shawon_rahaman undoubtedly
@Ak-fg2gr
@Ak-fg2gr Ай бұрын
Controller got some cajun in 'im 😂
@aaronkahn6985
@aaronkahn6985 Ай бұрын
From a pilot's perspective, this is so aggravating! Double, when you consider the fact that the LAX Tower is a facility only relatively experienced controllers qualify for. In other words, this gentleman has been doing the 'drawl' thing for a LONG TIME.
@andrewfielding1342
@andrewfielding1342 Ай бұрын
How do you figure LAX tower has only “relatively experienced controllers”….the FAA did away with “career progression” over 25 years ago. Rookies start at all levels of facilities now.
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 Ай бұрын
I'm stating this objectively, and with a clear mind to the fact that my Australian accent is more than just difficult to understand. The controller needs elocution lessons and needs to time phrasing much, much better. He's topping out at well over 200 words per minute and he is failing to pronounce words adequately. He's got a "lazy tongue". I'm not trolling him at all, and it's not accent that's the problem here, it's lack of training. Unless LAX is planning on auctioning off take off and landing clearances in the near future, he really needs another position at the company until he can develop the required skills.
@rogerwatson2255
@rogerwatson2255 Ай бұрын
Sounds like Biden.
@MiW-bx8bp
@MiW-bx8bp Ай бұрын
​@rogerwatson2255 yea if the controller started blatantly lying, it'd be Trumf
@virginiaviola5097
@virginiaviola5097 Ай бұрын
Listen to Australian ATC. Clear, concise and professional. Not ever this gibberish. 🇦🇺🦘🐨
@LNC4P
@LNC4P Ай бұрын
As a former controller myself, the way he is giving instructions is not wrong per se but is not as intelligible as it could be. I learned early on that the clearer you say something and at a moderate pace, especially during busy times, you save time. Assuming that LA tower is still a government controlled tower, they probably won't come down on him for his technique as hard as a contract tower would.
@Stormwarningjeep
@Stormwarningjeep Ай бұрын
When multiple people ask you to repeat yourself…maybe, juuuuust maybe, you’re the problem.
@SallySallySallySally
@SallySallySallySally Ай бұрын
It's Boomhauer!
@waverider227
@waverider227 Ай бұрын
Yeah man dem dang ol controllers takin about dem dang ol pilots upin d air dare talkin bout dem funny fancy code lingo n stuff yup mm hmm
@windywater5941
@windywater5941 Ай бұрын
All my respect to the pilots out there maintaining their composure under this stressful situation.
@jgrazzi
@jgrazzi Ай бұрын
He probably thinks he’s cute saying “kleddelaa”
@user-lr8ly9jb9y
@user-lr8ly9jb9y Ай бұрын
clidalan
@reeltrides911S
@reeltrides911S Ай бұрын
What a terrible voice. No wonder these guys can’t understand him. Unacceptable
@bobwilson758
@bobwilson758 Ай бұрын
Huh ? Say what ? Mumble … unacceptable ATC WTF ?
@daveluttinen2547
@daveluttinen2547 Ай бұрын
I don't see any efficiency in speaking so quickly if being unintelligible requires repetition of a previous statement. The controller cannot assume that everyone is familiar with the terminology. Yes, commercial pilots hear the same things over and over again, but occasionally someone comes in from (say, Brazil) who is second language at best and not familiar with dropped syllables. Just saying.
@senseisecurityschool9337
@senseisecurityschool9337 Ай бұрын
Even local pilots who "hear that same thing every day" shouldn't assume "cleared to land" when he says "clealan". Assuming what you think you'll hear (or want to hear) is a recipe for disaster.
@Rocketman-gg1ds
@Rocketman-gg1ds Ай бұрын
ATC has a strong Southern drawl (Louisiana in particular), which takes time to get used to. Have so many coworkers from there that I’m used to it but it can be a challenge to decipher to those not used to hearing it.
@petertwinn786
@petertwinn786 Ай бұрын
If you want to hear good quality ATC under real stress, listen to the British Airways flight 38 audio. Some US ATC is absolutely atrocious.
@alpenglow4243
@alpenglow4243 Ай бұрын
It’s CLEARED to land. Not clear to land.
@Dogfight2000
@Dogfight2000 16 күн бұрын
The main problem in America is that no one follow ICAO telecommunications standards. They talk plain English which is not correct. As an airline pilot who flew in US and EU I can tell the difference.
@douglasc9182
@douglasc9182 Ай бұрын
That controller is capable of clearly saying "cleared to land". He does so at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="183">3:03</a>. He should be more careful of his speed of speech.
@stevenhaines4342
@stevenhaines4342 Ай бұрын
I am surprised there aren't more accidents, go-arounds, and miscommunications with controllers like this. He is absolutely unintelligible.
@bobboberson2024
@bobboberson2024 Ай бұрын
I understood it. Now, I know why my FedEx packages are late. Of course, ATC does sound like he’s working at MSY.
@sirtango1
@sirtango1 Ай бұрын
Ask the controller to turn on subtitles. I can make out most of what he’s saying, but I would need need an interpreter for the rest!
@jrkc9218
@jrkc9218 Ай бұрын
You’d think after the 5th plane in a row asked for multiple clarifications he’d reflect and think “maybe it’s me”?
@wal707
@wal707 28 күн бұрын
Well yes, but he's a clueless narcissist. TF is WRONG with every pilot landing in LA?
@ZelenskyTheMadClown
@ZelenskyTheMadClown Ай бұрын
I'm British and I can understand him perfectly. Seems to have a hybrid Irish/North American accent.
@a1nelson
@a1nelson Ай бұрын
The ability and desire to speak clearly are core job requirements, not a nice-to-haves. Controller’s mumble/accent made it harder for everyone, including himself.
@viajeconchuck7345
@viajeconchuck7345 17 күн бұрын
guy in the tower is flighting a damn stroke! Get him outta there.
@wbgookin
@wbgookin Ай бұрын
There should be a rule that says ATC controllers aren't allowed to keep marbles in their mouth when on duty.
@ryanlund7220
@ryanlund7220 Ай бұрын
Not the time or place for your own signature style. If your job is to give instructions over the radio it's better to be forgotten as soon as the transaction is complete than to be remembered forever.
@WartimeFriction
@WartimeFriction Ай бұрын
Lmao I think air France at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="201">3:21</a> was mocking tower
@willemhaifetz-chen1588
@willemhaifetz-chen1588 Ай бұрын
yes the French
@larrylewislarry
@larrylewislarry Ай бұрын
“Claddalah” - I can’t find it in the dictionary 🤷‍♂️
@faktistletztenendes894
@faktistletztenendes894 Ай бұрын
Phew... Now i need to listen to some good ol' Boston John ATC recordings
@MauricioGarcia-vm2ge
@MauricioGarcia-vm2ge 27 күн бұрын
We are listening this with captions and we can go back in te video if we didn’t understand something. Now imagine the pilots with all the pressure and stress we have on us for being the PIC, then we have to deal with this type of COMMS. (i’m not blaming the ATC at all, it’s just how aviation works)
@mikeanderton4688
@mikeanderton4688 Ай бұрын
"Clidalin" is not "Cleared to land". Where did this ATC go to school? 🙂
@dalegreer3095
@dalegreer3095 Ай бұрын
US pilots: "Say again?" French pilot: "Yah of course, I have understood Tower perfectly!"
@CorporateJetpilot
@CorporateJetpilot Ай бұрын
Yo who took this boy from Birmingham INTL?! Jesus
@thatinventionsus
@thatinventionsus Ай бұрын
Speech is best offered in carefully measured tones that operate in the full low-to-high range. This controller has a hurried but slightly slurred monotone. All it takes is for someone to tell him so that he can improve. I think he has a good attitude handling traffic in one of the busiest airports in the world. It's just his speech that needs work. In the meantime, we should pray for all those international pilots coming in to land.
@Watchdogger
@Watchdogger Ай бұрын
I can't understand him
@christophed4579
@christophed4579 Ай бұрын
An old friend of mine used to say : "I'm in a hurry, so slow down".
@lapipesmoker3751
@lapipesmoker3751 Ай бұрын
He sounds like my relatives in Louisiana.
@DoctorQ9
@DoctorQ9 Ай бұрын
The ATC has a real future as an Auctioneer!
@svenf1
@svenf1 Ай бұрын
"Cleared to land" is very important for pilots to hear clearly for obvious (as well as legal) reasons, so controllers should take the extra millisecond to say it in a way that every pilot - incl. foreign ones - clearly understand it.
@marspp
@marspp 9 күн бұрын
It’s a sad day when Air France are clearer on the radio than the Tower in USA. That bloke simply cannot speak English, doesn’t let the comms flow properly and shouldn’t be in the tower.
@johnmaher5887
@johnmaher5887 Ай бұрын
Pilots should be able to ask for clarification without being spoken to that way. If a pilot can’t understand you, you probably need to speak more clearly. And even if it was just a one-time mistake (on either side), at least they are double checking for safety. When a pilot feels like they are doing something wrong by checking on an important clearance, that’s when you get them landing or taking off without clearance because they THOUGHT they heard it right, and didn’t want to look foolish by checking. Pilots should always double check if they aren’t sure, and controllers should just read it back to them without giving them an attitude. Anything less is unsafe.
@larryrichards3641
@larryrichards3641 Ай бұрын
Unintelligible is a better word than illegible unless he's sending them handwritten notes. Clearly his diction needs work.
@AviatorFox
@AviatorFox Ай бұрын
I don't usually hear a controller stepping on people that much...
@bluwolf098
@bluwolf098 Ай бұрын
If you're a new pilot to this area you wouldn't be able to understand cleared to land. The only times i knew he said it were when reading subtitles and later on in the video after hearing then say "Cleared to land" multiple times. Controler if you are watching this or reading the comments, please make sure the pilots and everyone else around you can hear the word "to" when saying "Cleared to land."
@Airpaycheck
@Airpaycheck Ай бұрын
Controller is talking TOO FAST! It's causing his words to run together. I've heard it a lot at busy airports where they're trying to do a lot in a short period of time. And pilots do it too (a lot of improper readbacks here fellas). Slow down and take the time to be clear and precise.
@lowrivera
@lowrivera Ай бұрын
My pov is obviously unpopular, judging by the comments but I seriously had no problem understanding him.
@bootstrapjesse
@bootstrapjesse 3 күн бұрын
Yeah... Said real fast sounded like "clittalund." Impossible to understand. The controller was wrong. Should be spoken "CLEAR TO LAND."
@pilgrimoutdoors-uk6177
@pilgrimoutdoors-uk6177 Ай бұрын
Terrible diction, rushed, unclear and dangerous ATC.
@jumboJetPilot
@jumboJetPilot Ай бұрын
It’s even worse out overseas.
@HCMCDrives
@HCMCDrives Ай бұрын
I've been saying for years that ATC need to understand that clarity is more important than speed. There is no need to talk so fast, it doesn't mean you are better or more efficient, as evidenced by this, and many other examples.
@puppytrish
@puppytrish Ай бұрын
I understand a speech impediment doesn't and shouldn't disqualify you from any job but the controller needs to also understand that if pilots are having a very difficult time understanding him, it puts lives in danger. He should realize his limitations and work around them by slowing down his wpm or taking speech therapy. no hate for the controller, this is simply the reality.
@donsland1610
@donsland1610 Ай бұрын
From my extensive experience of operating into LAX this sounded like a typical day there.
@darrengladstone3159
@darrengladstone3159 Ай бұрын
This is why you don’t hire air traffic controllers on their second career after being an auctioneer…
@firepilot109
@firepilot109 Ай бұрын
He sounds like he should be New Orleans controller, almost got the swamp talk going!
@romanflute6069
@romanflute6069 Ай бұрын
This controller is awful. Hides the cleared to land way in and he is talking way too much. Be concise and be understandable.
@kentreg1
@kentreg1 25 күн бұрын
Even when listening to this I'm sure atc thinks he did nothing wrong. Wonderful oversight FAA!
@Hokieredneck
@Hokieredneck Ай бұрын
Controller is like listening to a Tic Tack girl that speaks on 4x speed
@jamesmcguire9164
@jamesmcguire9164 Ай бұрын
I understand everyone is different in their hearing, but I listened to this with my eyes closed and understood every word the controller was saying. Captain for a major airline and rarely do I get to LAX as much as I used to, however I didn’t find anything unintelligible in those transmissions. Other non-standard phraseology by other aircraft was more apparent than the controller. I’ve had a much harder time not understanding controllers in and around MIA than this guy. Just my opinion.
@bullthrush
@bullthrush Ай бұрын
In country boy drawl, you hear how slow I'm talkin', well that's the same way I listen.
@enzocg9103
@enzocg9103 Ай бұрын
He reminds me of Fred Fenster (Benecio del Toro's character) from the Usual Suspects film
@pi-sx3mb
@pi-sx3mb Ай бұрын
Much ado about nothing. I listened with my eyes closed and understood every Tower transmission no problem. Some of the aircraft responses were a little garbled but that might be the audio quality of the video source. There were 3 things that seemed off a bit: 1. The FedEx crew sounds really fatigued. It happens. You reaffirm your clearance, sometimes more than once. End of story. 2. Either the controller misjudged the spacing on the Super departure/AA landing, or Air France took an inordinate amount of time lining up and starting their roll. It happens. Handled well by both controller and AA crew. Kinda lean toward the controller misjudged the spacing because of the mild, good-natured rebuke from the AA crew after they landed on the second approach. 3. Spirit's low altitude alert was the weirdest. There's nothing but flat ground underlying that final approach to 25L, so what was that all about? All in all, just another day at a busy airport.
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