Hey Jeremy, I’ve got one in my training portal actually, email hello@churchvideoschool.com if you’re interested and I’ll get you access!

Agreed. I’m hoping an update for the TV Studio HD is in the works

How works ?

True, but at $240 for a 50’ cable, SDI plus converters is a much more affordable route currently

I think fiber optic hdmi cables are great. They've come down a lot in price also. 300' for $120+tax. Don't know if they make 100m cables though

Thanks Charles. I always try and do the best research I can, and actually talked with Jake about that issue directly, but I may have misunderstood. If that’s the case, I’ll make an edit in the description

@@spencertrefzger9311 Thanks, I really appreciate your attention to detail. It will be very useful to know whether the M1-based Macs can have this rather major limitation removed with something as cheap at the Ultra Studio monitor. I'll keep a look out for your final conclusion on that one!

Yes the Ultrastudio mini-monitor can add a third video playback output. The new M1 macs are just limited to two display screens without strange work arounds to add more. But video playback cards from bmd are not “displays” they are video output devices.

@@Churchfront Thanks, great info - I just ordered one.

Yes, but so do converters- check my updated description

Technically, yes, if you have one lying around. If you don’t, getting a duplicator or matrix will be cheaper.

You’re right, and I wrote about this in the description after the video was published. You just can’t originate key and fill signals over HDMI- apologies for the confusion!

Where the video on this?

Yes, they are both fully programmable outputs

@@ProfitandPixels can't find any information about that online!

Download the ATEM Mini manual, read page 21

Can we get multiview via usb type c??

Some PTZ cameras can output directly to Cat6, but otherwise you’d need to convert HDMI to Cat6 and then back. This works well if you’ve already pulled cable or plan to

They have a T bar on the full size models

I can’t say for sure but the dual inputs on the Extreme could be unbalanced, needing some grounding from a DI box. Second, not really- the Extreme can record directly out to a USB drive

@@ProfitandPixels Thanks but don’t really know what you mean by “dual inputs”.

The Extreme has two 3.5mm audio inputs, the Mini only has one. That lets you run a stereo signal in

@@ProfitandPixels Gotcha. That might be my problem because i only used one like the mini. Thanks so much.

@@markdoyon8752 they’re both stereo in each

This would be the next logical step for the unit.

Even now from PC 1 with Propresenter has Ndi out to Another Pc 2 with OBS + hdmi out to Atem

Propresenter can send to a ( Ndi Decoder) but it will be an extra cost!

You can. HDMI has more connection issues due to HDCP, so a lot of ppl prefer SDI for that reason

This is a channel for churches, not upstart media companies. Those features are cool but largely irrelevant for this application. Plus you overlook that the TV Studio has 5 program outputs and a Multiview, making Aux feeds to other outputs like TVs way simpler. The Mini Extreme is great, it just has some limitations worth considering

​@@ProfitandPixels We're a church, too. We currently use the Mini Pro and we're going going to switch to the Mini Extreme, once it's available. There are two main reasons why we chose the Mini over the Television Studio HD: 1) The thing streams to KZfaq by itself, no external encoding hardware or software needed. No fiddling with OBS, no Ecamm or anything. Starting the stream is as easy as pressing "On Air" on the ATEM. That way, it's extremely volunteer friendly. 2) It's got scalers on all inputs. That means, the pastor can just connect their laptop to show their slides without fiddling around with settings. "Please set your external display to 1920x1080 with 25 Hz refresh rate" - "25 What?" We're running SDI links from the cameras to the ATEM and also from the ATEM to the big screen TV sets we use instead of projectors. Converting from HDMI to SDI and vice versa is no big deal using BMD's micro converters. You have to convert from SDI to HDMI anyways when not using ulta-expensive SDI capable projectors. Why are we switching to the Mini Extreme? Mainly because we need a second upstream keyer for certain scenes. Second reason is that we can run our FoH screens through the ATEM and display the live video feed, if we so wish, which is not possible right now. The alternative to the Atem Mini would for sure not have been a Television Studio, but an entirely software based solution like OBS or vMix.

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Yes, any ATEM can load those through the Media Player, though you can only set 2 as shortcuts which means the rest are hard to access in real-time. It also means running graphics independent of ProPresenter, which I’m not a fan of because it’s inefficient. Sorry I didn’t talk about your favorite features!

@@spencertrefzger9311 thanks for the breakdown! I fully agree with what you have said about the media player and that you can't alpha key, but what about Chroma keying which 95% of the time is just as good? Seems to make more sense to output propresenter lower thirds into the ATEM rather than output the ATEM into propresenter. Is there something I'm missing?

Good questions! So, chroma keying works fine for 90% of churches, at least for the time being. And if we were just live-streaming, it could do just about every kind of graphic - just make sure the "key" color isn't actually in the graphic, and off you go. But a colored lower-third with green screen or black upper 2/3 doesn't work so well on FOH screens, so there's a compromise. A recent solution that's becoming more popular is to just keep the graphics inside PP7 the whole time, feed the video into it from the ATEM, and live-stream from there, saving the mess of keying and graphics cables altogether. Just trying to think long-term on its limitations, but it really is a great switcher option!

@@ProfitandPixels You can Alpha key using two HDMI in's via 2xSDI -> HDMI converters from a Hyperdeck - what is so special about PP7 that you can't feed a Fill and Key via two inputs and use the Luma keyer? I didn't understand the "You can't send Alpha channel via HDMI comment" - Thanks.

So I tested this, and you can take 2 SDI key and fill signals and run both through converters to HDMI using the new 3G Micro Converters. I had mistaken that alpha channels need to originate in SDI with thinking HDMI can’t carry them, which is false if using two separate cables/signals. I’m sorry for any confusion I caused!