Amen! Glory to God. All of heaven is rejoicing ❤

I abandoned Christianity recently, the revival isn't real

This supposed revival is because of YOU?

@@someonesomeone25 would you care to explain why? I have experienced both church hurt AND extreme doubts and have yet climbed to the truth of Christ. There is a substantial amount of evidence for God and for the resurrection that I would be happy to discuss! God bless and have a great day

Same

Are you viewing this trend as actual evidence substantiating the truth of the the claims proposed in the bible? Just curious.

@@Theo_Skeptomai No, I just find it interesting.

Can you provide am example?

​@@Theo_Skeptomai read the book dominion by Tom Holland

Well this isn't really true. If you look at the "God" of the Bible, the one represented in the Greek and the Hebrew works, he is all over the place. So you really need to cherry pick which parts you want to adopt and then the other parts (such as genocide and slavery) you need to run apologism for.

@@Doctor_Fate5 Why?

@@Theo_Skeptomai it is a example

Yes was a great analogy

The difference is you can empirically test if eating chicken and broccoli helping you to lose weight. If you know of a way to test if the Christian God is real could you please present it.

And tries to undermine Johns gospel and right after mentions that gnostic forgery again bro u cant make this shit up 😂

​@@channelMasterGuiGamewatch the language bro

Why wouldn't Alex respond in good faith? If you'd would like, I will gladly have a cordial discussion concerning our respective positions and do so in good faith. Or if you wish, I can answer any and all questions concerning my position of atheism or any of my stated convictions. I am always open to having my current convictions challenged and critiques. Simply reach out. Peace.

@@Theo_Skeptomai Ok I’ll give you a fairly straightforward example. There are many, many more writings in the Old Testament that emphasize the importance of supporting “the orphans and the widows” (i.e. the needy), than there are those descriptive & hyperbolic retellings of the Israelite conquests. Yet atheists like to hyper-focus on the latter, to the distinct exclusion of the former. In keeping with this thematic trajectory, Jesus himself reiterated the duty to take care of the poor. And he was not “correcting” Old Testament theology, but rather highlighting what had been highlighted over and over again. So I’m interested in how atheists such as yourself view “benevolence”. Do you take a high view of humanity and believe that we are all born intrinsically benevolent?

@@EmilyTodicescu Why do you call the Hebrew conquests hyperbolic? Certainly I can see an argument there, but the point being made of murdering women and children and cattle is quite clear. And it's reinforced by those not carrying that out being punished. We also know that Yahweh is apparently capable of influencing the will of people, or even hardening hearts (see Pharaoh). Why didn't Yahweh influence the peoples in the "promised land" to leave? Why did he require them to be driven out, by the sword. I'm not sure you really understand how utterly disgusting the idea of stabbing someone to death is, yet here we have direct commandments for it. Even if you argue as Bill Craig does, that these people and children will be taken to Heaven right away, it doesn't alter the fact that it happened in the first place, and that Yahweh ordered it and it was carried out by his followers.

@@EmilyTodicescu And yes, Jesus took quite a different tone from the OT, how do YOU reconcile the difference there? It's not on the atheist or agnostic to provide and argument as to why it should be overlooked or substituted because there's verses about caring for those in need. On the issue of "benevolence", I don't really know why you're even talking about it. Firstly, it doesn't matter. Secondly, humans have a natural instinct to survive, much like other animals. We are social animals, and we are rather intelligent. As such, the moral frameworks you must attribute to God is neither here nor there. I know and my neighbours know that if we all start engaging in thievery, or murder, it makes our own self more vulnerable. We don't want these things happening to us, so we generally don't do it to others. When humans start to get desperate, they engage in immoral acts more, and it makes those areas more unsafe. You don't need to ask the question of where our morality comes from, whether it is subjective or objective. Without God, it is subjective quite clearly but that doesn't mean there is not such thing as "right" or "wrong". These are simply descriptors for things we generally view as harmful to us and society or not. Anyway, I'm curious to know about your batting away of the genocides and ethnic cleansing of the "promised land". It always strikes me though, in the modern day we have a real life example of Israelis attempting another ethnic cleansing of the land and rightly, people are horrified. That was happening back then, and I cannot see any justification for such atrocities. Can I ask you what the purpose of the Mosaic law was for those people?

@@brainworm666I’ve just started reading the entire Bible and I will say Jesus sounds a lot like the prophets of the OT. I think it’s a false doctrine that’s been passed around that the God of the OT is different from the NT. Also the point of the Mosiac laws were to set apart the Israelites from the rest of the nations as representatives of God.

I'm glad u pointed that out, that got past me.

Well, the gospel of John and Thomas are basically just fan fiction.

@@ramigilneas9274 ? no evidence, might just be fictionalizing as well

@@zacharymulford4172 such as?

Such as?

@@HugoMccreddie such as the premise of this video, his "discovery" that there are many people that call themselves Christians but arent. Its something Christians lament often and many Bible verses that talk the subject.

@@zacharymulford4172 so your example of one of these "epiphanies" is that christians are more aware of the fact that fake christians exist? did you expect this to be an important topic among Sikhs?

@@HugoMccreddie who said anything about Sikhs? The guy in the video literally speaks on, and thinks about, Christianity all the time.

Yeah but I think his point is not that JP is a Christian but he is far more open to the supernatural truth claims in Christianity being literal if he does not already think they are. In that sense he is categorically different although Justin Brierly mentioned something similar offhand about Tom Holland. I do not think either are there but are either very close, though I do think JP has a tendency to teach heresy a lot of the time though probably unintentionally.

I, an atheist, can vouch. Gnosticism is based.

I never seen him acknowledge that he believes in the spirit realm. What did he say?

Ya

To be a wolf in sheep's clothing, he'd actually need to claim to be a Christian. And he doesn't do that, so we should refute but shouldn't be surprised when he chats nonsense e.g. Gospel of Thomas

What _exactly_ does Alex have a "mental block" concerning?

Oooo double dare!

Nothing at all, i believe part of our spiritual warefare is knowing how the enemy can attack or what doctrine is false, always ask the Holy Spirit for guidance

Nothing wrong with reading it. Just don't tout them as a source of doctrine, or spout nonsense like it was removed from the Bible.

@@retrictumrectus1010 I agree with the latter part, but they are a source of doctrine for Gnostic Christians. And you may think "well screw them they're heretics" but I don't think you'd be happy if they exercised that same level of dismissal to other Christians.

Gnostics are not Christian, by definition. That's an important distinction. The entire point for the Nicene Creed was to establish guardrails of what Christianity is and is not.

I will demonstrate otherwise. Can _you_ simply _choose_ to believe that you can run full speed through a brick wall? Yes or no.

@@Theo_Skeptomai probably not if your mentally normal, but just because there’s exceptions doesn’t mean that belief is a choice. It’s the norm to choose to believe. Every day people choose to believe in something that’s unproven. It’s natural. Would you say that people can’t choose to believe in religious beliefs?

@@Theo_Skeptomai Your argument is based on presupposition. It’s also an illogical question because no one can run through a brick wall. You don’t need to believe you can to know you can’t, it’s self-explanatory. If someone is fully convinced that they can run through a brick wall, they’re mentally ill. Simple as that… It’s like asking can God create a rock so heavy that even He couldn’t lift it. The question is absurd.. The answer is no, but it’s illogical from the very beginning; why would God create a rock that He couldn’t lift? What would be the point? And since everything is subjected to God, nothing can be created by God that is more powerful than Him, therefore the rock would be subjected to Him. There are things that God cannot do; God cannot lie, God cannot fear, God cannot subject Himself to what is created, in that, the created thing is more powerful/stronger than Him. God not being able to do certain things contrary to His nature/essence, doesn’t mean He is no longer God or omnipotent.

@@Theo_Skeptomai Also, biblical faith is not blind faith, which you seem to be implying. Biblical faith means having good reason to put your trust/confidence in someone (in this case, God) or something. This is something everyone does, even outside of the Bible. You put your faith in the chair when you sit, with the intention being that it doesn’t collapse under you. Why? Because you have good reason to do so, otherwise you’d pick another place to sit.

You can't will belief. No one can choose to believe that 2+2=67

I started looking in to Christianity after I read Jordan Petersons book in 2018. It wasn't until this year that I would actually say that I believe in the resurrection. It took a long time and Im still sorting it out.

Agree about parents but the government is not the parents of the citizens.

The government is not here to suppress evil whatsoever. If anything, the government is evil…

You didn't get his point mate!

Then nothing would change. Thinking he's going to become a Christian seems somewhat wishful thinking.

I doubt it. He seems much closer to agnosticism or deism than Christianity.

I will assume he is pointing out the FACT that an individual can not simply _choose_ that which he or she believes.

John also isn’t in the same genre as the synoptic gospels. It’s basically just theology based on fan fiction.

Be aware that there are multiple models on the timing of the Rapture--before (pretrib), during (prewrath), or after (post trib)the seven years. I recommend researching all of them and their Scriptural support before getting dogmatic.

also understand that the idea of a pre-tribulation rapture is an idea that popped up about 100 years ago. It comes from a guy named Darby who pushed the idea of Dispensationalism. It's a very recent invention.

Are they trying to do good, though? Subjective at best.

@mattturner5750 I don't know if they're trying to do good. The premise seems faulty at best.

@budzill I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

As an atheist I wholeheartedly agree. Peace.

Facts for Christians: James 1:27 "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world" Proverbs 29:7 "The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern" As for the government, if they aren’t surrendered to the supernatural will of Christ, they will be the latter part of Proverbs 29:7 - wicked.

So close to _what_ exactly?

Yeah he brings it up from time to time

Not exactly .. he was asked if a camcorder was situated outside the tomb of Jesus, would it have picked up Jesus leaving the tomb. His response was, “I suspect yes.” However, he then said that he has “no idea what that means”. Whereas a Christian would say, “Yes Jesus rose from the dead, and that MEANS that he is the Lord our God. Yahweh himself, come in the flesh.”

Don't watch?

Please elaborate.

Because it's not a recognized gospel?

@@mattturner5750 I realize my comment is badly written, sorry about that. It just seems to me that a big reason Ruslan doesnt like the Gospel of Thomas is due to the misogynistic verse but the Bible has verses that could be attack in a similar way.

@mousedynasty4953 It's a bit of an outlier message from the new testament wouldn't you say? The church weighed the gnostics and set them aside as untrue is how I understand it.

@@mattturner5750 yeah, they are probably not "true" gospels as the ones in the Bible, but the Bible has controversial verses like how to own slaves or how women should follow their husbands. I think saying women need to become men shouldnt be a reason to dismiss that gospel. Perhaps better arguments are the possible date it was written or the contradiction with other writings. But yeah, that is just my opinion.

@mousedynasty4953 that's not the reason. Plenty of discussions laying out how the books of the Bible were chosen.

You don't choose what you believe.

@@Muffln of course you do, you evaluate evidence and then you decide whether it meets up to your threshold for belief.

@@Fulltilt1973 But you don't decide what evidence convinces you. If the evidence will convince you, it will, if the evidence won't convince you, it wont. There is no reason to say that we choose how evidence affects us and which direction it will pull us.

@@Muffln I know too many people who have a very high bar (over which most evidence wont go) for the existence of God and very low bar for the things which bear no significant. This is a decision, they have decided in their hearts that their is no God and so the bar is super high. All decisions based on wish fulfilment. it rubs all ways btw, those that want there to be a God or aliens or climate change or whatever will decide to believe based on the scantest evidence.

@coolumesque Your interacting with demons not God. Any entity that tells you to disregard the Word of God is demonic. Jesus quoted scripture again and again to the religious leaders because it is important, Satan can appear as an angel of light, so be careful friend.

How do you know you’re not being deceived? God inspired, preserved and handed down the scriptures for a reason. Jesus references the scriptures many times. Do you know Christ? How does one get saved according to you?

And that's a clever thing to do.

Of course he is going to undermine the authenticity of the Christian foundation....he is not Christian. If you are not Christian, you don't believe in the authenticity of Christian religion. Simple as that.

​@@weidchar1646 that wouldn't be a good faith conversation then.

@@mattturner5750 by your logic, no conversation between a Christian and a non-christian can be good faith because the non-christian doesn't believe in the same things as the Christian. That makes no sense.

Can you provide an example demonstrating a lack of wisdom on Alex's part?

@Theo_Skeptomai Wisdom comes from God and he puts his faith in matter and energy without realizing that it all could not come to be by accident (pretty good miracle).

@McSmurfy HOW did you determine wisdom comes from this 'God'? Explain the data (or at least cite the source of the data) that you analyzed and the methodologies you employed to reach such a conclusion.

@@McSmurfy No response?

@Theo_Skeptomai You expect me to just sit and wait for you, you are not that important that I need to reply immediately (I sm working). ‭‭I Corinthians 1:30-31 NKJV‬‬ [30] But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God-and righteousness and sanctification and redemption- [31] that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.” Jesus gave wisdom and for us to live by and clearly effective if people followed it, but we are broken and misused that wisdom.

And HOW do you know this?

@@Theo_Skeptomai Keep seeking and you will find. Keep knocking and the door will be opened. Ask and you will receive. Be open to the grace of God and synchronistic things will have a way of happening. Small revelations may come over time. For some like Paul, it happens in a dramatic flash. Be open and give your best attention. 🙏

I really doubt it.

​@justingoforth8350 So what about all those who sincerely seek and don't find?

@@someonesomeone25 this is hard to do, but sometimes we have to get out of the way of our own denial, our own will and begin to pray, talk aloud, and just try to trust and rely on something bigger than ourselves. I know, it's a leap of faith. If we really don't want to have something revealed to us then it won't be. Sometimes we might not know our own heart so well. So as a result if we deep down don't want to believe then we won't be led. Instead we'll continue to be met where we want to be met whether we are consciously aware or not. I agree it can be hard to believe and trust the path/way. It may take decades for some, and I won't lie, it takes a lot of inner work for some of us to accept Christ, to accept Christianity for all that it says it is. You have questions and doubts before believing and even after believing. To some of us the evidence is in the application of Jesus' teachings. You will still have trials and tribulations in this life, but when you have peace you have it, your worries and anxieties are reduced, you accept things better, and you store treasures in your heart, your overall burden is lighter. I understand everyone has to do their own deep dive and decide for themselves whether to choose to believe or not. I have found that God always wants you regardless of where you've been personally or whatever you have done. God lifts you from your shame when his Spirit is upon you. Observing that everything in creation is relational and interdependent one realizes God is a relational creator. When we deny God, our distance can become so great that it may take a lifetime before we can confess our belief. So if anything, silently observe creation. Being still is to know God. 🙏

Now that I've watched this whole video it's even worse than I thought, this channel is horrible lmao

​@@joshuawoolridge8378yet... here you are

Compliment?

@@mattturner5750 how would that be a compliment?

@@kennyfernandez2866 I figured you're Gay?

@@mattturner5750 Precisely cuz I am not I can see how this is.

@@kennyfernandez2866 how is the channel gay?