You literally can not use scientific methods to find god.

@@bombe0074 Then you literally cannot say one exists unless you have a method that uncovers the actual existence of a god past speculations and what is in your head. I have been waiting for theist to demonstrate their supernatural powers to see beyond the apparent to detect the undetectable. Do that and you would have eliminated the atheist problem. Absent the scientific method what reliable method do you have that does not rely on speculation, what you feel, what you speculate, or must believe, all of which could go any direction?

@@sandrajackson709 I actually agree with you, that you can not really proof, at least in a philosophical sense, that one exists, which is why philosophy is arbitrary in it's fundaments, which does not mean that it is meaningless.

@@bombe0074 Meaning is in the eye of the beholder does not tell you whether or not something is true

@@sandrajackson709 your answer deeply reflects a complete misunderstanding of what science and the scientific method is. Just bc something isnt provable through the scientific method doesnt mean its not true. ill give you four examples... 1. You cant prove anything mathematical using the scientific method because science and math are two different paradigms. 2. You cannot prove science is certain using the scientific method bc science itself has philosophical underpinnings that cannot be examined using the scientific method. 3. science cannot objectify or reason morality. you cannot use the scientific method to figure out what is true morality or false morality. 4. science is based on the presupposition that rationality and empiricism are true. you cannot prove these presuppositions to be true using the scientific method. The only reason you have been "waiting" for theist to demonstrate is because that's all you've done. you have waited instead of going out and seeking knowledge.

No he's doesnt. He's never claimed this. He only laying down certain aspects of his opinion

What is?

Using Akums razer to reason what the very beginning of everything, using faith, science, and who knows what else. The faithful will believe in what is in their religion, science can "see" the radiation, some people believe "aliens." The bearded guy is clearly religious, the guy without a beard seems to philosophise about the topic. Naming either party incorrect is shallow. What if the guy without the beard said said that he strictly believed the scientific theory?

To reason is shit, I agree.

@EruRoraitoX arguing over belief systems using "what if scenarios" is logically lose lose.

​@@michaelpeterson4698 lose lose? No 😂 Its 50/50. Either God exist or not. Either you going to heaven or hell. If God exist you think youre not going to hell? If God doesnt exist, well you believe yourself existed. Or the MOST LOGICAL atheist such as yourself think everything in this universe came from NOTHING? 0+0+0+0=1? Whattttttt

what twist?

thats such a dumb argument. just because you dont understand something doesnt mean there isnt a cause for it. picture this, youre at your desk and theres nothing there except a computer, a monitor, a keyboard and a mouse. you get up to to go to the bathroom and when you come back theres a snickers there too. are you going to reject the possibility that someone left it on your desk just because you dont know what its made out of or how it was made? you dont have a world of astrophysics and quantum physics without a base cause for existence just like you wouldnt have that snickers on your desk without someone placing it there. you dont have to understand everything to understand that there was a cause for it.

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How is this childish? When you use your intellect. Your response is childish.

Replace the ‘we’ with ‘I’ because its you who doesn’t know how the universe originated or where it comes from and on the other hand I do

@@Aces4767You believe you know but you don’t. No one does. You can keep on thinking you know though it matters not. As long as it makes you happy.

@@Very-old-man speak for yourself

@@stain2027 No no no. I’m speaking for you. You believe you know but you don’t really. You just believe you do. That’s fine. Keep believing I say. It’s the same with every cult. Utterly convinced. Enjoy 👍

@@Very-old-man and you believe no one knows which is exactly that. your belief. not the truth lol unfortunately all you have is conjecture. but hey some people are the happiest when they can live a life without morality or atleast try to justify it but i think deep down they know theyre frauds

A simple logic can prove to you God exist. If there is no God, there would be infinite regression fallacy. Let's go through the logic. This universe is a universe of cause and effect. The apple fall because of gravity, the tree move because of wind, a child is born by a mother, we feel full after eating full and become hungry without food. If we go back to all causes and effects to the prime event which is the Big Bang, there would be a binary possibility. Possibility 1) The Big Bang is resulted from a dependent, newly created before it and has similiar traits and features with what comes after it and Possibility 2) The Big Bang is resulted from an independent, eternally existed and unique cause unlike what comes after it. Possibility 1) would result in Infinite Regress Fallacy, meaning the cause of big bang is caused by another cause and that cause was caused by another cause until infinity. Therefore, since the cause is dependent infinitely, unless there is an independent, eternally existed cause to cause as originator, anything after it is impossible logical fallacy. A simple way to understand, a domino will never fall and have a domino effect if it requires the first domino to fall first but the first domino is infinitely dependent on the the domino that comes before it to fall first. So, no domino will fall. In the case of the universe, the fact that the universe exist meaning, Possiblity of 1) is impossible logical fallacy. Which leave Possiblity 2) as the only possible option by exclusion which state that the big bang is resulted from an independent, eternally existed cause that is unique from everything that comes after it. That is God. In the Quran, in Surah Al Ikhlas, God said," Say: He is God, the One, the only (unique). God is the all-independent where everything dependent on (noting the independent nature over everything). Never had a son nor was given birth too (there is no before and after for God, God create time itself). And nothing for him anything equal to him (reaffirmed the uniqueness). So, a simple logic will prove to you God exist. Saying no one can prove god existance is ignorant. That is why the ancient societies with high intellect and logic, even if you exclude the muslims, still worship God (Greeks, Persion, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Africans, South Americans etc.) Denying God is not the pinnacle of intelligence, it is the pinnacle of stupidity and poor logic.

@sandrajackson709 I dont know why you deleted my reply and your reply. I am not inserting infinite regression, it is logical preposition and the only possibility demonstrated by logical exclusion that the universe of cause and effect can only exist due to an independent, eternally existed and unique cause which is God. If not, you have to explain how does the universe of cause and effects can come into being in infinite regression. which is a logical fallacy. That is simple logical reasoning. Why are atheist who claim to be the 'most logical and rational' seems to have poor logic and reasoning. What a joke atheist are now.

@@MNomad90 I deleted nothing. You failed to explain why there must be an infinite regress if not some guy flying on a winged horse and splitting a moon an half {because that's totally possible and you seen it so many times therefore that could be the only rational explanation}. There is cause and effect but nothing says that cause has to be a thinking agent because you are incredulous to the idea that the universe can manifest something you think is impressive on it's own so there has to be a thinking agent absent a physical brain capable of intent to create { again because that is totally consistent with reality and magic is real, that's rational so what the hell am I thinking} I am not asserting anything that is not apparent or I cannot know you however are so you must explain to me. I could just tell you I have no idea how any of it happened now explain to me how any of what you are claiming is possible If there were infinite regress you do know special pleading a god wouldn't fix it or make one real

I did not even know you posted a reply until I filtered by newest comment

@@MNomad90 You failed to explain to me why there must be an infinite regress if not some guy flying on a winged horse to split a moon an half {rational and reasonable} There is cause and effect but what I want to know is why that cause has to be a thinking agent absent a physical brain with inattentions to create. How is that possible? So weird how all that becomes possible when not knowing isn't and option while something from nothing remains impossible. Special pleading a god you cannot demonstrate exist does not make one real, provide any explanatory value and stop an infinite regress if there were one.

You cannot conclude when you do not have a slightest knowledge of the Qur'an. You should study more, then compare and contrast before giving a judgement.

Then show me what in Quran is on the same level as Genesis 1.​@@TheMusty85

Nothing can be an explanation when you cannot show that what you are proposing is even possible or that it exists to be an explanation for anything