Atomstack A20 Pro - What can we do with 20 watts of diode laser power?!?!

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Жыл бұрын

Diode lasers have come a long way in the past couple of years and recently we've started to see 20w diode lasers become available. Atomstack sent their A20 pro laser to my shop for a fair review so I put it to the test by cutting various materials and seeing how well it performs the typical engraving functions as well. This kit includes the 20w laser, air pump and the R2 rotary device and we put them all to the test.
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@cardmodels1 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for one of the best review formats I've ever seen. Straight to the points that matter and a pleasure to watch.

@Vintauri 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! I try to hit all the important points without too much fluff!

@brianwaites4572 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant! Thanks mate.

@johnamato8157 Жыл бұрын

Great review. Just bought one. I still have to set it up.

@BobBowman962 6 ай бұрын

Great Review! I purchased and use the Atomstack S20 Pro last January and i absolutely love it! I may be needing that Rotary accesory next!

@Vintauri 6 ай бұрын

The Atomstack R1 Pro rotary is one of the best ones I've used!

@daverowe5351 Жыл бұрын

Love your detailed amd useful reviews - not just out of box but actually usage- thanks - it's your fault if I spend money😂

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

I'm glad it's well received. I do try to take my time to actually use and learn about each machine before posting a review. If you spend money, well I hope it's at leat well spent! :D

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

I need this in the shack... I love my current 20 but this looks good.

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

Yes it is a nice machine and I'm impressed with how it's cutting the 5-6mm material. I'm sure you could put one to good use in the shack!

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. That rotary looks nice too. I am about to get another and that one looks pretty useful.

@garywidman7574 Жыл бұрын

I've had my Atomstack A20 for a couple of weeks now and am just getting to the point where I can try it out. Out of the box, the X axis wouldn't roll because the rollers had developed flat spots where they sat on the rails. I took them off and found two of the rollers had gouges that made them unusable, and the rest of the rollers developed flat spots after sitting unused for a day. New rollers fixed the problem. The gantry rocked on 3 rollers until I loosened the end screws to let it align itself. The laser didn't fit the dovetail until that was reworked. All set up now waiting for the Comgrow camera you reviewed recently.

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

That's too bad on all the problems with the A20. I didn't run into any issues like that with mine but I'll keep an eye on it for any that develop. The camera does take some calibration so hopefully working through the offsets will help as you dial it in.

@MrTigg93 Жыл бұрын

Can I ask where you got rollers from

@MrTigg93 Жыл бұрын

Can I ask where you got rollers from

@jackhelm9852 Жыл бұрын

I picked this Laser up back in June and largely have been satisfied with it. Was not wild about the cable mgt and some of the connections are loose fitting. Maybe that has been corrected by now for the one you got. But the USB connection for my computer is really loose and wobbly. After months of pretty intense use I can say that it does cut well, as you found. I am not unhappy with it even after months of continuous use. However I do miss the incredible detail I could get with the Ortur 5w I had before when it comes to engraving. And the Air assist I got with mine was not the same one as you got. This may be why I get pretty excessive over burns on nearly all of my cuts. Also if anyone gets one of these and puts it into an enclosure, it generates a TON of smoke and debris so make sure you have decent ventilation. Mine overwhelms my ventilation/filter and as a consequence it sticks around in the enclosure getting sucked into the laser by the VERY LOUD fan that is on top of the laser head that keeps the 4 diodes cool. I discovered that frequent cleaning is needed to keep the fan and inside of the laser module from being completely bricked with soot. It is a good machine, but it has it's specific strengths (cutting) and weaknesses (In my experience, engraving detail). If you need a good cutting machine at this price point (vs. stepping up to a CO2 laser) then this is a good option. But I do plan on getting another Ortur with the fine focal point for my more detailed engraving projects. Good review. Thanks for the video.

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your input. I do want to do more testing on the engraving and compare it to the 5w and 10w units I have on hand. I think on clear wood, stainless steel, or tiles you'll really see the detail difference in the engraving.

@jackhelm9852 Жыл бұрын

@@Vintauri Update. After only 6 months of use, the thing shows damage on the lens cover, which they must expect because one of the resellers lists the lens covers for sale in batches of 3. Tried to order them and have been told it will be months before I can get it due to them being out of stock. Not sure if this is the reason or something else, but I now can no longer cut even 3mm Baltic Birch (even at 100mm/m and 100% power). Getting help from the company is apparently impossible since I purchased it from a reseller and the reseller has proven completely unwilling to help me. Deal with this company at your own risk. Is there no companies that make lasers that are not in China?

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

@@jackhelm9852 is it the lens cover glass on the removable brass ring or the actual inner focus lens that is damaged? If it’s the lens cover glass there are easy replacements that can be found elsewhere and cheaper than direct from the manufacturer. It’s the same cover as used on the XTool and other diode lasers.

@johannvantonderlife 9 ай бұрын

A very helpful tutorial, thank you. I'm just starting out, do you perhaps know the default speed & power on the 2mm plywood cutting dog test sample, just as a starting point for the next project. Many thanks. 🙂

@halizakamardin4239 Жыл бұрын

hi! i was just wondering, what percentage of power and speed did you use when engraving the stormtrooper and the plane on the small business card? Hope you can help since i have been struggling to find the right settings 😅

@Samotnick1 Жыл бұрын

I placed an order two days later I got an email that they were out of stock. They offered a more expensive version because as they wrote these are available. I agreed and placed a new order after they returned the money. Two days later I got an email saying that this one is also out of stock! This company is a scam.

@Gigiuzv 9 ай бұрын

How good is this laser to cut and engrave acryl ?

@syndibautista4953 8 ай бұрын

Can you please do a video of how to put the legs on? I can’t figure out the corner near the start button. Thank you

@hunermendleather 11 ай бұрын

Hello, I could not turn on the frame detection laser light of the a20 pro, I wonder where it is opened, thanks

@Platttraining 15 күн бұрын

Good video. I am looking at an x20 or x30 Atomstack for classroom projects. I primarily need to cut and engrave 3mm and the 5mm HomeDepot Purebond 3 ply (hardwood veneer with poplar core) plywood. Of course engraving. Would both work and it is just about speed?

@Vintauri 15 күн бұрын

Either one should get through that material without too much hassle. I was just cutting some of that this weekend on the Atomstack A24 at around 400-500mm/min. The more power would allow you to increase the speed a little. Any unit you purchase make sure to sort out a safe enclosure to deal with the light and smoke, especially if you use it in the classroom with others around. If it's just you, you can get by with the goggles and open air ventilation, but an enclosure makes it much easier and safer to deal with.

@jasonbloome7615 Жыл бұрын

Great review! I have an art project where I need to cut pieces of 2 mm aluminum for photo prints. Is that possible with the Atomstak 20 watt unit?

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately diode lasers cannot cut metal other than super thin material like foil. You need a much higher powered laser to do that.

@chrisjp7937 9 ай бұрын

Good afternoon, I have had my A20 pro for a couple of days now and I’ve tried various material tests as laid out by AtomStack and my laser will not achieve the cuts they have stated. Having watched your video, I matched the parameters you set with the same material, laser focused correctly etc. for me to get through 5mm ply I had to have the power at 95% at 250mm/m and 4 passes. Is there anything you can think of that might be set wrong on my end to get such different results? Thank you.

@Vintauri 9 ай бұрын

You may want to check your device settings and look up the $30 value. It should be set to 1000 but if it's lower it may not be allowing the full power of your laser module to output. I've seen this be set at 255 which would mean it's running at 25% power.

@GrayDragon Жыл бұрын

Atomstack offers now a new modell with a optical power of 33 Watt with a six diods laser head .

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

It seems the next jump for most manufactures are in that range. I'm not convinced that it will help you cut much thicker material, due to the same focal depth, but it should help speed up the same cuts and engravings.

@naelalalami4868 Жыл бұрын

I bought this X30 Pro this is my first time using laser engrave machine I have problem in starting point and the aliment I can get exactly where it well start engrave spically if i need to engrave in small pices any one face this it doesnt show cross or point any solution

@mykhe5725 10 ай бұрын

I GOT LASER LIKE YOU- BUT HARD TO CUT THE WOOD - 1/8 INCHES OK, BUT- 1/4 NOT CUT - HOW YOU SET THE POWER & SPEED ! THANKS !

@burtgraham3689 Жыл бұрын

I just bought the A20 pro - never used a laser before and Im somewhat apprehensive abt the learning process. Is there a website to show how to get an image starting from the computer to the laser. Thanks for any help you can give me. BTW liked your assessment on the laser

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

You might want to check out the website I-magr as they have both free and paid software that helps set up images for lasering. They also have some decent videos to follow along for how to get them into lightburn and other software. www.imag-r.com/

@burtgraham3689 Жыл бұрын

@@Vintauri thank you will give it a go

@edinmak9226 2 ай бұрын

Hi, I have an atomstack s20 max. The power of the laser is 18-20w. They cannot cut plexiglass (acryl) 3 mm at all. Is the problem that the laser power is low, or did I not set good parameters for cutting? I use the lightburn program

@Vintauri 2 ай бұрын

If you are trying to cut clear it will not do it at any power. It's the wrong wavelength and you need a Co2 laser for that. If it's black or another solid dark color you should be able to cut through 3mm acrylic but it may be slow depending on your lasers actual power output I would start around 150mm/min speed and 80-100% power and adjust from there.

@edinmak9226 2 ай бұрын

@@Vintauri Thanks for advice

@abdulbazarov4192 Жыл бұрын

How fast can he engrave stainless steel? photo 30x30

@codetous888 7 ай бұрын

Can the R3 rotatary be controlled via the Iphone app?

@Vintauri 7 ай бұрын

Not that I'm aware, but I don't really use the mobile app with the lasers.

@TheDorazio Жыл бұрын

At this price point, why would you get this laser instead of a K40 with some upgrades? I understand if you need to mark metals, but the cheaper 10W lasers can do that as well.

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

This still has a larger cutting area of over twice the size of a K40 as well as being more portable. There are also fewer things to manage from mirror alignment to water cooling setup thats needed for a CO2 laser. But you also give up the ability to cut any color acrylic including clear and it's still less power than the 40w CO2. Both have their features one might want to consider when choosing a laser.

@billieb Жыл бұрын

Clack sent me to this vid. Thanks. I am looking for a 20w and had asked Clack his opinion. If you had $1500 to spend on a 20w, what would it be? I currently have the xtool d1 pro 10w. A 20 w head for it is $700 (fyi).

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

I don’t think you can go wrong with the XTool or the Atomstack 20w laser so it would depend on if there were features one had that really appealed to you. I’d also consider the Sculpfun S30 pro max. It has auto air control to turn on and off the air pump using the lighburn switch per layer. Outside of that I do like the Atomstak air pump better than others. It seems to put out more air.

@billieb Жыл бұрын

@@Vintauri I think I am leaning to the atomstack. Any idea if the xtool rotary tool will work with atom ? It is lightburn that runs its, right?

@timmturner Жыл бұрын

@@Vintauri Xtool D1 Pro

@jimrigdonrealtoratjaquarea7902 Жыл бұрын

does this work on USA 110 outlets?

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

Mine came with a typical North American style plug similar to what plugs into a desktop computer.

@trentonburbach4814 Жыл бұрын

What about cutting mdf?

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

I try not to cut too much MDF due to how bad it can smell and that it's getting harder to find formaldehyde-free MDF locally. I'll try to work it into a project soon to be able to give more feedback on that.

@alainponcelet1157 Жыл бұрын

Will it engrave and cut Teflon?

@Vintauri Жыл бұрын

I have not tried Teflon. I know a CO2 laser will cut Teflon sheets but the diode might not have a quality effect. You also need to be very careful with the dust created by cutting Teflon as it's not good to get into your lungs.

@vladimirtarasov1574 Жыл бұрын

Самое страшное то, что Вы хороший наверняка человек! Однако в глазах у Вас блеск вакцины! И было бы очень хорошо если бы я ошибался! Дай Бог вам здоровья!

@Graeme758 6 ай бұрын

'anodisations', ffs.

@sputnik4216 6 ай бұрын

Terrible review, sorry. "It can do this and that but I don't use this or that and .." so on and so on. No enthusiasm for journalism. No info on actually anything directly related to this specific machine in this video.

@Vintauri 6 ай бұрын

Well thank you for watching anyway. I covered a large variety of materials, test cuts on various woods, engraving with the rotary. If you want the technical specifications you can pull that off their website. I try to show real world use and application of the machines.