The Original Church didn't speak Latin -- they spoke Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic -- *to say that speaking a mass in Latin somehow makes it "holy" is ridiculous* -- Besides, the Apostle taught that only the language that the congregation understands is to be spoke in church -- 1Corinth 14 -- so if you are a church in China that only speaks Chinese, speaking a LATIN mass that no one understands is to heretically contradict the Apostle.

@@veritasmuy2407 never said it was the language of the Apostles. But there is no reason to restrict it!

@@phyllisgibson1328 YOU: But there is no reason to restrict it! *ME: ??? The Apostle Paul said to restrict it in 1Corinth 14* -- the church is NOT to speak a language in church that the congregation does not understand -- if you are in an English speaking congregation, then LATIN is NOT to be spoken

Reall? So you think 100 years ago, the mass wasn't said in Latin in China?​@@veritasmuy2407

To nomodernist, Thank you for your witness of believing. May I offer you my gifts of my procreation role concepts and alert you to my need of union of my identity capability with that of another or of others. In uncertainty, I believe that these gifts and this need have not changed over time. Latin is a gift but dead language. A modern live universal language is its keeping in uncertainty of belief in each one's gift and need language by the exercise of an absolute power of authorisation. This keeping power is only exercised by valid consecrated marriage identity - role of the inseparability and qualitative equality of ensuring eucharist procreation gift as source of unity and insuring marriage need of union as summit of union. In asserting: "Eucharist is 'the source and summit of the Christian Life' ", the authors of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, published in June 1994, n. 1324 could not yet in uncertainty believe that consecrated marriage identity - role, either celibate or male female, was the summit. This was because lacking the conceptions and capability to believe this until late 1994. This keeping was confirmed on 31 October 1994 in the letter exercising an absolute power of authorisation of a consecrated celibate married monk of Downside Benedictine Abbey, UK, Fr Martin Salmon OSB, to me as a consecrated male female married. With me as his former student in Downside School, UK, from 1960-65 was in uncertainty of belief kept reciprocity of ensuring and insuring. This was completed by two consecrated male female role - identity marriages of my parents and myself of an exercise of an absolute power of authorisation of the keeping in uncertainty of belief of the inseparability and qualitative equality of objective eucharist ensuring role gift as this source and subjective marriage insuring identity need as this summit as a double keeping. This keeping of unity was as by Pope Francis' consecrated celibate marriage on 17 June 2021 of Vatican state ensuring language of Cardinal Angelo Becciu and nine other of its citizens/employees in his charity donations matter resolved on 18 December 2023 by criminal convictions in his Vatican state court and Italian Parliament insuring language in the "Zan" anti-homophobia bill matter resolved on 27 October 2021 by defeat of this bill in keeping their inseparability and qualitative equality. A live universal language became possible from 1964 by this keeping at the UNO Food and Agricultural Organisation and the Pope's Commission on Population of the conclusion of an economist/statistician of national accounts joined in a consecrated male female marriage, Colin Clark, of "just about paripassu rate of growth of population and food supplies in the developing countries" for which awarded a papal medal by Pope St Paul V1 in allowing in uncertainty believing Pope Paul V1's role gift of Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12 confirming in reciprocity with identity need that: "marriage has two inseparable aspects: union and procreation". This keeping only possible after the formation of the UNO in 1945 with its keeping of inseparability and qualitative equality of worldwide statistics on economic ensuring role processes of rate of growth of food supplies in the developing countries (cf. eucharist) and non-economic insuring identity progress of rate of growth of their population (cf. marriage) was of the inseparability and qualitative equality of consecrated marriages, celibate vowed to man in Christ and male female vowed to God. This double keeping as of roles and identities and of identities is termed the "multiplier" as of gift role processes and need of identity progress as revealed in Exodus 3:14 as the "I AM WHO I AM" as unchangeable over time.

But according to the Greek that Matthew originally wrote his book in, Jesus used LEAVENED (sin) bread to represent his Body at the first Communion Meal in Matthew 26:26. *The Greek word is "artos" and means "raised bread, leavened bread, loaf".* The Greek Orthodox that understand the original Greek of the Bible, use leavened (sin) bread in their communion meal.

I receive kneeling and on my tongue as well! We all should!

@@maryannstypa4859 Oh yea , I forgot to say that . I’ve never ever received in my hand in my entire life .

I agree. Not about us, about God.

So you don't thinking that your hands are holy?

@@georgegunzerath489 The priest’s hands are consecrated! They are holy. Our hands are not consecrated. Not a judgment, a FACT ! Read about Akita , an approved apparition. The Sister visionary received a wound in her hand to make reparation Communion in the hand. FACT!

Passion of the Church ?? No one spoke LATIN at the Passion of Christ except the evil Roman military that mocked Christ and hung Christ on the cross. To say that speaking a mass in LATIN somehow makes it more "holy", is ridiculous.

The Apostle taught that only the language that the congregation understands is to be used in church -- 1Corinth 14 -- *so for the church to speak LATIN in a congregation that only understands Chinese, is to heretically contradict the Apostle.* The Original Church didn't speak Latin, so to say that speaking a LATIN mass somehow makes it more holy, is ridiculous.

So basically you were "searching" to be a heretic that contradicts the Apostle's instructions in 1Corinth 14 -- where the Apostle taught that ONLY the language that the congregation understands is to be spoke in church. ????

Trust in God, he'll find you a way. Perhaps call the church. There might be someone willing to take you with them. If you lived near me I'd take you. I live in Kansas.

Scotty KIlmer can help!

Are you in Tyler,Texas???

@@ZachariahMorningstar I'm in Pa. Is the restrictions for Tyler Texas only?. It never ends with them tearing us apart from the inside.

@kathleenfrancis1872 if you lived in tyler I could give you a ride

Who are the evil ones, the ones that don’t go to a TLM?

@@crazyfaith77 The evil ones are those who are restricting access to the Latin Mass. no reason to eliminate it. It is dignified, has been used for 1500 years. I hope you are not implying that the traditional Mass supporters think that the Novus Ordo is evil?

@@marybeth6750 That’s why I asked the question.

I hope that they sincerely repent, the heresies which they are committing ! ❤

Aahh fellow protestants. 😄

The Lefebvre was excommunicated and went into schism. A fine example.

The Latin Mass a gift for a restricted population in relative time but not a need of an unrestricted population in relative space (cf. Einstein's relativity of time and space, c.1907).

You are a heretic that contradicts the instructions of the Apostle in 1Corinth 14..... but since you don't care.....

The Original Church didn't speak Latin -- they spoke Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic -- the only people that spoke LATIN were the evil Roman military that mocked Christ and hung Christ on the cross -- so to say that a mass in Latin somehow makes it "holy" is ridiculous.

The Apostle Paul would want to "harm" the Latin Mass -- because the Apostle taught that only the language that the congregation understands, is to be spoken in church -- 1Corinth 14. If your congregation is in China, USA, Finland, etc and doesn't understand LATIN, then Latin is not to be spoken.

Pope Francis, is anything but loving.

​@@danieldimond5734Indeed. There's vindictiveness and spite in this man, unfortunately - more of a dictator than a loving father.

When I was an Anglo-catholic (high anglican) we had bells, incense, altar rails, communion on the tongue --- we were more Catholic than the Catholics, but all done in English. Much reverence. No latin needed for return to reverence.

@@valwhelan3533That is nice that you give your personal opinion. I recognize what is the Latin Mass and no one can take that away from me. God Bless you.

@@valwhelan3533 Latin is not the reason people attend the TLM. The whole Mass was changed in the Novus Ordo. So much was removed. Latin is only one tiny part of why the TLM needs to be defended and ultimately restored as the Mass of the Catholic Church

He was saying that because he knew someday he will have to face justice. Like Vigano.

@@Paul9443 Wrong. He knew that Bergoglio or one of his ilk would try to destroy the Catholic faith in some way. You obviously didn't see the interview.

@@Hallow334 First of all, that Bergoglio is your Pope. As a Catholic, you are bound to call him Pope Francis. Second, you and people unfortunate to frequent channels like this and Taylor Marshall, just feed on lies, scandal, slander and out of context quotes. Your hearts get poisoned and as a result you become blind. And people with malevolent intent use tradition to bait you and attack The Church. I've been in your place when I was discerning Religion denominations and etc. But I started to question, why so much scandal and hell in these circles. I'll pray for you all. 🙏

@@Hallow334 Firstly. That Bergoglio is your Pope. If you call yourself a Catholic, you are bound to call him Pope Francis. Secondly. Strickland had been dismissed by The Church. Vigano is facing trial and will likely be excommunicated. The Bishop you speak about is part of this league too, no doubt. I'll pray for you and like-hearted souls. You feed yourselves with lies, scandal and slander. Your hearts get poisoned by it and you become blind as a result. Then people with malevolent intent use you to attack The Church. May God give you the gift of disgust of scandal, lies and slander. May He give you a new heart, replace your stony one with a heart of flesh. Amen🙏

Firstly. That Bergoglio is your Pope. If you call yourself a Catholic, you are bound to call him Pope Francis. Secondly. Strickland had been dismissed by The Church. Vigano is facing trial and will likely be excommunicated. The Bishop you speak about is part of this league too, no doubt. I'll pray for you and like-hearted souls. You feed yourselves with lies, scandal and slander. Your hearts get poisoned by it and you become blind as a result. Then people with malevolent intent use you to attack The Church. May God give you the gift of disgust of scandal, lies and slander. May He give you a new heart, replace your stony one with a heart of flesh. Amen🙏

If your leadership stop rebelling against the magisterium this would not be happening! You all are weaponizing the TLM

We should not and must not obey an illegitimate order! No way!!

If you don’t attend mass you will be in mortal sin and you will go to hell when you die, better to go to what you calll a sloppy novus ordo for a few years and spend eternity in heaven than be stubborn and obstinate and spend eternity in hell

SSPX, here we come !

@@janicewilliams2922 It appears that Francis wants to corral the 1962ers in one place. Wonder what he'll do then.

I, too, left and returned. The steady drip drip drip of unnecessary changes started in the mid-'60s. When the immutabile changed and continued changing, it called everything else into question. If all they wanted to do was move part of the Mass from Latin to the vernacular, all they had to do was use the other column on the page of the daily Missal *_every adult already had._* But removing the necessity of the priest reading the Epistle and the Gospel in the vernacular during time set aside for the Homily and it could have been finished in a month. Obviously, that was not the main goal.

Why do people mimic the priest? When did that fad start?

There you go at least someone did their research.... The NO was the brainchild of 3 freemasons one of which was Bugini, the other BALDEO or Baggio not sure which one all were freemasons. BUGNINI was then despatched to Iraq but when jp 1 passed away he was recalled.... Makes you think doesn't it.... About whether JP1 death was murdered or not.

Many people will have nothing to do with a Mass that names Bergoglio as the pope, had the Canon altered and was used at Vatican II.

SSPX is in schism. You must be faithful to the Church

...or even better; Orthodoxy.

@@marcokite I found 28, and they don't all agree and they don't all recognize each other! Jesus established one.

Certainly not all!

That’s a schismatic statement.

@@figurefour633 take tour sun glasses off, it is getting dark outside.

Jacob, I receive Communion on my tongue no matter where I go to Mass...I don't think about whether I'm the only one and I don't care what the Priest thinks...I'm receiving Jesus our God and I must be as reverent as possible although I will never be worthy

The master plan of the Freemasons is coming to fruition.

I agree.

Do a google search: SSPX,FSSP, institute of Christ the king, SSPV. There are a few others

If you go to an unauthorized form of mass, then you are leaving the Church. We all make choices.

Novus ordo watch go on to that website. It will show you where you need to go

It got changed in 1962. And 1965.

The problem is those who are weaponizing the TLM. The Pope is suppressing it because he has to put down the rebellion

I was surprised a bit to hear him say that the pope has the authority to do that. A lot of scholars say otherwise.

@@jacobcaeli A Council's declaration has more authority than any theologian, also let me add that the laity are not obliged in any manner to comply with this, in fact they are expected to reject it out right and to speak out against it to the authorities within the Church.

Read online the Apostolic Constitution QUO PRIMUM issued in AD 1570 by POPE SAINT PIUS FIFTH codifying & canonising the Latin Mass until the end of time & it cannot be abrogated. See online "Open Letter to Confused Catholics."

​@jacobcaeli I was surprised, too. No Pope has the authority to abolish the sacred tradition of the Church. He is obliged to receive that tradition and to pass it on - not to preside over let alone enforce innovations.

@@aelbereth6690 Now we know who he is.

Truth!

Agreed drives me crazy, clap for the children's choir, the organist, the folks who decorate the church, God Bless them but do we need clapping???

I'm so bad I don't like clapping, or the "sign of peace" or "prayers of the faithful" during the week or girl "alter servers" or "female readers" or "Extrordinary Eucharistic Mjnisters". God help me.

And dancing, too.

Or when the mumblings before Mass finally stops and the "welcoming person" asks everyone to turn around and greet those around you. God help me!

Clapping is done to recognize human achievement. Not at all fitting for Mass and worship of God. Attend the Latin Mass.

IS he the pope??

We bring the reverence to the novus ordo Mass. I veil, my husband and I kneel and receive on the tongue from the hands of the priest. Jesus is still there, just more hidden.

Unfortunately nothing can be done if you want to save your soul you will just have to go to a novus ordo mass if that is the only thing available as a Catholic

Novus ordo watch. Go on to that website. It will show you where you need to go

​@@osar2870you can go to a FSSPX, ah the schism thing yes, whos really in schism here?

1st I've heard of these mysteries & seem appropriate. Which day of the week? Last new set of mysteries was Thursday for luminous ❤

@@margaretfoley3239 - sorry for getting back so late. I suggest saying the Eucharistic mysteries on Thursday and the Luminous mysteries on Wednesday. The reason is the Last Supper was on Thursday. I’m working on two manuscripts for publication. The first is called “The Fingerprints and Signature of God: Recognizing the Trinity through the Formula for the Creative Process”. It reveals the evidence of the Trinity everyone sees every day but doesn’t recognize. It also reveals the correlation between the Trinity (God), the Incarnation (God’s Word), and human beings (God’s image and signature). The second manuscript is on the Rosary with new mysteries: the Eucharistic mysteries, the Incarnation mysteries and the Word of God mysteries. Of course, it’s all scriptural to meditate and strengthen the faith.

Yes. They were given facilities to hear confession and have weddings. The Church also said we fulfill our obligation attending SSPX Mass. How can they not be in Communion with The Church?

Consult you local ordinary, they can provide guidance better than on line comments. It depends........

Fallacious

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is not directed to you. It is the representation of Jesus's Sacrifice to the Father, for the forgiveness of our sins. We are but witnesses at the foot of the Cross.

@@philipwebb5065 We are more then a witness at the cross. We eat the Body of Christ. We are married to Jesus.