Attend SSPX? Obedience and the Glory of Paradise

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Attend SSPX? Obedience and the Glory of Paradise

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@JamesBond-qd5rc 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mr. Flanders. I attend SSPX masses at their seminary in Buckingham County VA. I do not hear uncharitable comments from their priests or bishops. So far I am very pleased with what I see and hear. They love and pray for the pope. A framed photo of the pope is on the wall at the entrance. I have never heard a homily with hateful talk about the pope or bishops. I have heard homilies about some errors to avoid, otherwise nothing negative. I have come to have great respect for the SSPX. I would invite you to come for a visit and see this for yourself. Why not invite Bishop Fellay to speak on your show? God bless your good work!

@Johannes3006 4 жыл бұрын

The irony of the Ecclesia Dei equating the SSPX with a "schismatic mentality that could separate oneseld from the teachings of the Catholic Church" is that it is the opposite which is the case. There are times when one would go to the Novus Ordo to hear a Priest preach something contradicting either Sacred Scripture or Sacred Tradition. This is not the case when one goes to an SSPX chapel. The SSPX priests always preach what is 100% faithful the magisterium. The reality is that it is certain Novus Ordo Priests who are the ones propogating a schismatic mentality.

@DrJonathanGemmill 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video 💜. God bless from the SSPX community New Zealand ! ☺. We pray for the Pope and for the Vatican swamps to be drained 🙏❤💙⛪⚓. 👿👬💃💃💃.

@JamesBond-qd5rc 4 жыл бұрын

All organizations have uncharitable members, but my experience thus far with the SSPX here in Virginia has been absolutely positive and faithful to the magisterium of the Church. I cannot see any reason why anyone would fear or be reluctant to attending maases there on a regular basis. They simply are not going to agree with some of the obvious errors found in Vatican II. Most of Vatican II they are just fine with. I wish all the negative talk about them would stop. Let's all show some appreciation for the good they have and are doing.

@JamesCordes 3 жыл бұрын

Man, from 34:30 onward, I had straight goose bumps. Those moments where I ponder the majesty of heaven are so wonderful. You did a fantastic job of transporting me into one of those moments. Should be it's own clip!

@nz6065 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm 🤔 A Grave cause to go to the SSPX ? What about a Pachymamma idol being placed over the tomb of St Peter in the Vatican !

@filipradosa6062 4 жыл бұрын

Best analysis of SSPX out there. Thank you.

@TheMeaningofCatholic 4 жыл бұрын

Filip Radosa thanks brother. Translate at will, please link back to our apostolate. God bless!

@filipradosa6062 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMeaningofCatholic Sorry, I have removed some comments where I mentioned translation. My english is not so good. :-)

@tradpinoy 3 жыл бұрын

If my Old NO parish doesn’t lead us to believe in real presence nor follow the truths revealed by the Church as it has always been, my family and I are left with no choice. And if I see my friends attending NO mass that are not aligned with council of Trent, I believe it is my duty to inform them not to commit such sin.

@bretbellamy4375 4 жыл бұрын

👍👍 Thanks, brother!

@andrewlane7486 4 жыл бұрын

Love the water bottle!

@JuanDiegoUlate 2 жыл бұрын

This vid was from a year ago.... the SSPX and Archbishop Lefrebve have been proven right, especially after the latest development of restricting the Latin Mass by the new Motu Propio. If you said Lefrebve & his Bishops "were" excommunicated after the consecration, then St. Athanasius of Alexandria was also "validly" and canonically excommunicated by Pope Liberius. Apparently history shows us an Orthodox Saint who likewise dealt with unjustified persecution, later being named a Saint. I think you've wizened up from this video. No disrespect Tim, I greatly enjoy your vids, especially with my boy Kennedy!!!

@tMatt5M 4 жыл бұрын

This intro needs to come back

@Pax336 4 жыл бұрын

Great teaching. I wonder if you could answer a quick guestion. If a bishop tells tou to stant after receiving the blessed sacrament till every one recieves, do i have to stand instead of kneeling.

@TheMeaningofCatholic 4 жыл бұрын

Penny Hopper great question. I cannot tell you to ever disobey a bishop who gives a command that is not sinful. However, it is also true that the faithful have a right to adore the Blessed Sacrament according to the accepted customs of our fathers. Therefore it would appear that such a command MAY be unjust (I don’t know all the context), but not intrinistically evil. If that is the case you have the choice to obey the command and offer up the suffering to the Lord or else disobey this command while maintaining piety toward a lawful authority. Piety would also dictate a private audience with the bishop to discuss this. I do not see how any cleric can turn any faithful away from pious customs unless they are heretical or cause scandal somehow. A large factor would be whether or not you have children.

@Pax336 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMeaningofCatholic Thank you so much for the reply. Very helpful. Tho I find it very sad that we need to even ask these questions, how good would it be if the church was universally in accord. Once again, thank you and bleessings for the year ahead.

@santiagotowers2533 4 жыл бұрын

I will make it simpler for you, yes you have a right to fight this evil false priesthood. This exact thing happened to me on multiple occasions and it has set off a 5 year guerrilla conflict at our Parish. The pretty faced sheltered Novus Ordo heretics receive their dues.

@JuanDiegoUlate 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMeaningofCatholic Tim, good reply. Here's a shorter one. We must obey God before man.

@Kristof_Lazaar 4 жыл бұрын

In the book of Mark, the story of the rich man who was seeking salvation was told to sell all his possessions and follow Him. Are there any church fathers who speak on this issue? Thanks

@TheMeaningofCatholic 4 жыл бұрын

Yes many things. I would recommend consulting the Catena Aurea for all Gospel questions: meaningofcatholic.com/resources/#holyfathers

@joseestrelladelmar8762 4 жыл бұрын

You should post your talks on apple podcasts.

@TheMeaningofCatholic 4 жыл бұрын

José Estrella del Mar they will be available there soon. The podcast stream is also here on the website: meaningofcatholic.com/podcast/

@mgk22 4 жыл бұрын

Where can I get a copy of that “handbook of moral theology”?

@Shlomayo 4 жыл бұрын

Amazon has it.

@ApostoladoPetrino 3 жыл бұрын

There is schism amongst trads themselves

@javaman8895 6 ай бұрын

The SSPX priests will not say the new mass and are not serving with permission of the local ordinary. These are schismatic actions. Read what a Benedict said about them in the letter to bishops when he lifted the excommunications.Tell me again that they are not schismatic.

@jasonquick1094 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe I have a misunderstanding of the sspx. Dont they teach that the papal line was broken after Pius X?

@TheMeaningofCatholic 4 жыл бұрын

Jason Quick no they do not believe that the papal line was ever broken. They acknowledge Francis as pope.

@user-yr7jp1tn6y 4 жыл бұрын

Nope! From the SSPX website: "Bishop Bernard Fellay was elected Superior General of the Society of Saint Pius X. Notably, in the jubilee year 2000, he led all of his priests, religious, and seminarians on a pilgrimage to Rome, hoping thereby to express love and respect for the Holy Father, for whom the Society prays and recognizes as the Vicar of Christ on earth." see: sspx.org/en/about/history

@AJ-ox8xy 3 жыл бұрын

No SSPX only holds that Vatican 2 has errors. They are not claiming papal authority over anything and are definitely not Sedevacantists. Archbishop Lefbreve was clear to his order before his death that SSPX does not break with the Church no matter how astray it may go. The only issue that keeps SSPX in what has been deemed irregular cannocial status; is the fact SSPX claims Vatican 2 has conflicts with Church Tradition and in practice seemingly gives many liberal Catholics (Modernists, although some "conservative" priests are still Modernists) the ability to violate if not out right change Church doctrine and Dogma. This is why Archbishop Lefbreve made SSPX. To preserve the priesthood despite the changes from Vatican 2 that allowed many in the Hierarchy of the Church to be corrupted. With time I believe the church will purge itself. But it could takes decades if not a few centuries depending on how far the Modernists go and how much dedicated Catholics put up with their nonsense. We're already seeing a rise in Latin mass attendance and fall in Novus Ordo attendance. So maybe the purge in the Church could happen in my life time as Traditional Catholics simply out number those that claim to be Catholic in wolve's clothing. Time will tell.

@jasonquick1094 3 жыл бұрын

@@AJ-ox8xy my understanding of the situation suggests the issue was Archbishop Lefebvre ordained 4 Bishops without the popes approval and that Archbishop Lefebvre himself signed the Vatican 2 documents. I believe what Lefebvre was objecting to was the so called "spirit of Vatican 2" which is where all of the issues really show up. Don't get me wrong I am a traditionalist and whole heartedly wish the church would go back to only using the Latin mass and I know the SSPX truly wants that as well so I'm not trying to attack simply understand.