😅 You are schooled Sizwe, so are we. Wish many people can see this interview, I'll do my part and spread the link. This is one of your best interviews Sizwe, based on content and information gathered.

His analysis is always on point. I loved that "battle between two devils" narrative. I have always maintained the the Gupta capture was just a small branch of a much bigger tree, infact, as Gogo says a disturbance of the real capture.

You owe the nation part 2, 3, 4, 5.....of this conversation.

I have always stated that the state capture began by the revolution capture, which took place in the CODESA process. Where our freedom struggle was turn into an election struggle, or rather fighting to have the right to vote. When in its essence democracy, whatever that means was suppose to be the by-product of our struggle on the end in itself. Once the narrative was changed, the revolution was captured, because as Gogo states it, our people were not only victims of an undemocratic process only, but the denial for their participation in a democratic dispansation was to ensure that an oppressive world order was followed; as our struggle involved changing a certain world order impossed on us. That allowed the stealing of our mineral resources, which was preserved as it is in the CODESA narrative. The landlessness was also preseved in the CODESA narrative. Which made our struggle nul and void in achieving the main objectives of our stuggle. “ Mayibuye i Afrika”, Thina Sizwe Sikhalela Umhlabe Wethu”, were now turned into meaning we want to be able to vote. So if we begin with the state capture or rather the capture at the state level, and ignore the fact that the capture took place in the revolutionary level, where CODESA became an evidence of such capture, we are still dealing with the symptoms. We know that it is fact that leaders entrusted with negotiation a better settlement; since we were made to believe that the struggle can be won through negotiations were captured already. Mansions, lixurious cars and secret meetings we held in the dark of the night with the captain of industries. The western repressntatives of the narratives that Gogo is referring to. Let’s revisit the CODESA lies and will be exposing the real capture. Thanks Sizwe, excellent interview and thanks to Gogo👌🏿

I would like to take this opportunity to Thank You Sizwe for this amazing interview and uTata too.I understand why uTata was not allowed to teach.so much food for thought in one interview.

I would love to hear more of his views on JZ testimony. This was a brilliant interview. Much respect to you Sizwe and uGogo Aubrey Matshiqi.

Wow. Mr. Aubrey Matshiqi knows exactly what is going on. State Capture was just disturbed. The Youth need to watch this. Good interview.

Wow!!! This conversation makes it clear that SMWX is succeeding with their objective for establishing this channel... Thank you very much Sizwe, our worldviews are being challenged and expanded!!! #BigUps

I concede that I'm now an SMWX junkie. Great content, deep yet clear. Thanks again Sizwe and Gogo Aubrey for the insightful dialogue

It is always a pleasure to hear Mr. Aubrey Matshiqi speak on historical and current South African Issues. It is nice to hear him explain how he views the issue of state capture.

This man is too deep. His analysis is not narrow hence it is unpopular to the current new dawn.

Imagine if the mainstream media was as impartial? Now such a tour de force is only accessible to those of us who can access youtube. Thanks again for this platform. Please consider making podcasts.

Sizwe thank you for helping share these insights from some of the best in our country.Clearly we have a very rich history. Hopefully it will be written for posterity! Gogo Matshiqi is one of our finest in many respects.Hearing his story was long overdue. Well done Mbonana!

This is a great interview!!! I would love to hear more from Gogo Matshiqi!! Brilliant!

Sizwe you're a good interviewer. You ask a question, allow your guest to express himself, and your follow-up questions show you were listening. Not like someone whose mind is already made up.

Sizwe thank you, thank you, thank you. I have just subscribed to your channel for part 2.Please don't disappoint🙏

Very interesting statements around state capture or rather the interruption of state capture. 'Policy askaris'... This was a great interview Sizwe!

This was a powerful and intellectually engaging conversation. Ntate Mashiqi has very useful insights and analysis about our political economy and around contemporary debates. We surely need a part two of this conversation. This was a whole lecture worth revisiting and drinking from. Big ups Sizwe!

We definitely need part 2 Sizweeeee

I should say the content of this interview far exceeded my expectations, really hope to hear more from Gogo Aubrey. It seems in south Africa, we have been fed the idea of a milk and honey space and all we are left with is an idea that we are free but still need to hang on, freedom is on its way, this is some very rich content, Ola Bra Sizwe

Wow. For a change hearing such an unbiased insight!!!

The ANC is in government not in power - uGogo Aubrey Matshiqi

That was fire by Gogo. I think part two is needed. Keep up the good work.

@Sizwe thanks man for this platform. Thanks also for this interview. This is one mind I really respect in politics

Wow wow...this guy is so so brilliant and a true critical thinker

Very honest and not biased political analyst...

what an insightful engagement, we need part 2, powerful stuff

more please - this is one of the best interviews I have listened to

This is very good work on covering south african history, My on must watch this someday

I love the caution to not be swept unthinkingly into a lexicon by conniving politicians for their own agenda forcing us to be unsuspecting agents who peddle their narrative. Well done Sizwe and please follow up. The gogo is game.

Hhayi guyzin. I was here with a pen and paper and its over kanjanlo nje... bring him back please...whaaatttt yoohhhh i have been schooled...im buffled by my own reaction because it means this analysis it challenging the narrative i had,even subconsiously...

It has been the culture that the agents of anti-change has always recommended those who resonate with their narrative. I am sorry, Ramaphosa is supporting that narrative. Pravin, Tito are now the trusted on this narrative, but unfortunately, South Afrika will only see them after ten years. Ramaphosa, Pravin and Tito are not changing the narrative, they maintain the status quo and are simply made angels because Zuma was the worst.👊🏿

This is nice Sizwe keep it up. We have an alternative fair platform to rely on, jus keep the fire burning.

Great Interview Sizwe. AYEYE!!!

WATCHING THIS INTERVIEW FOR THE UMPTEEN TIME ...LEGENDARY STAFF.......”There is no state that is not captured. I don’t think in principle we are opposed to state capture. We are opposed to state capture only to the extent that the state is capture by forces and people who are not like us, by people who do not like us and by people we do not like. When the state is captured by people who are like us, who like us and we like, we have no problem with state capture.” Gogo Dungezweni Matshiqi

Thought provoking, what a powerful reflection on various issues of interest. Best socio-political analysis

Please invite the gentleman again. Such wisdom.

Sense at last! 👏 A different glance and insight based on a historical context.

I have been waiting for you to upload part two of this conversation. Please arrange another discussion..

I'm really inspired by your interviews Sizwe.

Damn! The people that come to speak to you seems so relaxed and free to speak freely and honestly. The "analysts" that are currently giving commentary - wearing the mask of analysis - to mainstream nowadays are so rigid and stiff. It's as if they have things they don't want to address and people they don't want to anger. This is why the internet needs to continue disrupting mainstream media! Maybe we will get more honesty from commentators and analysts! Keep it going SMWX. Ayeye

So profound and so deep, an eye opener. Wow gogo Matshiqi is so knowledgeable and now I understand why the mainstream media no longer use him as an analyst. He's an independent analyst, very insightful and broad minded, I can't wait for part 2 of this interview. Abanendlebe zokuva mabeve, abanamehlo babone oko kuthethwayo ngumoya. Ramaphosa and his choir are not our messiah.

Fantastic interview!

Great valuable teachings.

Respect to both of you, I always like the views of ubaba Matshiqi.

A brilliant analyst I rate him highly...AM👌👌👌👌👌

Best interview to date on SMWX!

Please organize a lecture with this guest. What he is saying needs to be engaged with live. So many questions!

Brilliant sizwe brilliant

Great episode as usual. You are consistent.

Great discussion, I love how you allow uGogo to go on uninterrupted to make his points which have so many nuances. It's such a pity that people only share short clips of these discussions, too often out of context.

I had thought with the birth of Newzroom Afrika CH405 we were going to get the other side of the news. I have concluded that they are just ENCA Ekasi. Of late I am having to watch Russia Today CH407 to get the seemingly unbias opinion but the problem is they are not local news. Thanks Sizwe for choosing to 'Run your Own Race'

I'm a big fan boss! Pure talent, and gift. It's like watching a bird in flight. Respect I still say school em

Well done, more conversation on this matter, call on Gogo again, for part 2.

Gogo had me going: "go deeper Gogo". He is literally putting into words what he had me think about but could not put into words. Incredible insight gained of Zuma's testimony at the commission. All along I was searching for a legal understanding, but the penny dropped when I watched this: that it was political understanding I needed. Thank you for this, Sizwe. The use of resources explanation makes a lot of sense. Do I understand correctly that those who are anti-revolutionary may not necessarily know that they are doing wrong, but in the sincere hope that they are serving the country they are in fact advancing state capture? There are those who know what they are doing, but like the devil, they quote the Bible to achieve their ends? Perhaps state capture is larger than Zuma. It is inconceivable that one man can be the mastermind behind such a large force. Perhaps he watched many use his name to capture the state, and he happily allowed them, but he was not actively involved at all times.

Nangu lo'mjita... Bona fela. The most wonderful son of soil. The respect in your Tone poy. jerrrr

I love how he explains state capture...he's absolutely right

Infact Tat Matshiqi must be our permanent weekly or bi-weekly political analyst..... kleChannel. Thank you for this channel.

Let me keep sharing this interview

Aubrey is such a seasoned analyst. There are a lot f brats out there who claim to be analysts. Aubrey has to be the best I have listened to.

My new channel. I love it and it's very thoughtful provoking

My favorite Political Analysts..

Loved the interview. Well done sizwe. The cameraperson must just keep a still hand, too much movement not pleasant. Great interview overhaul🙏

"...because of colonialism and Apartheid, a numerical minority has become a cultural majority." This is extremely powerful and important to the social structure of post-Apartheid South Africa.

The wisdom and scholarship of Aubrey is enriching

The ANC is in government and not in power. Amen 👌

Instriging philosophical and political convo....balanced conversation dope! My king. One more thing...the camera person moves around a lot though 😅

Part 2 is needed

Im watered by Gogo very intelligent

This is deep Sizwe bring him back

"Bahleli bonke entilongweni bahleli bonke kwanongqongqo" .... "khwawuleza mama khwawuleza, nanga amapolisa" . These songs were played at night and very privately by my uncles, at that time I was very young did not understand why and depth of the lyrics but liked them and used to hum along

With Aubrey - we are schooled ,not mngamanga , he tell it ,as it is. On point No one say it like him. He is the best in that field

#Ayeye!! 2nd Episode, with Gogo Aubrey Matshiqi, soon to follow. Waiting with bated breath

what a brilliant mind. we need more of this, me like

Aubrey mashiqi is the best analyst

I remember this brother from uct, bazizo Sizwe

Powerful discussion as usual but then the only fear I have is that we are more into the diagnostic and analysis of the problems with complex multiple views far more than we could offer possible solutions to at least dampen the pressures coming from the perceived misdirection

Free education for all personified!!!

Loved the interview... Please improve camera angles

very interesting

daaawwwwwg you owe us a part two on this

Thanks for watching! You can watch all my conversations with uGogo Aubrey Matshiqi here: kzfaq.info/sun/PLElMlY-u7QWt3h4-L0pFYu-96osMvnM23

wow and wow.... best conversations

We live in interesting times indeed.

When Present J Zuma said politic is politic and does not have economy nd We talk to those who have the economy to invest to imprement promises. Peoples lough to that statement look now.

I would like to say to Sizwe I am completely surprised that I am not subscribed to this channel.

Ayeye... subscribed.

I love Mr Matshiqi,, thank you very much...mmmmmhhh, i love this guy. Can i get more of this....mmmmhhhh.

Brilliant!!!!

I like the narrative competent when Sizwe says Gordan is competent then sir Aubrey says the devil is competent and the competent lies and steels in a educated manner that i can drink to

a numerical minority has become a cultural majority, and the numerical majority being subordinated to the cultural majority, this is my today gold.

Why are we not getting more of Aubrey Matshiqi...???

Deep analysis.

Watching this, I feel like I am attending a philosophy class :)

I will transcribe this, Sizwe. For free. I think it's important to have this available as text.

mind bending...

Now, this is the real political analysis. Wow

This was a good interview shame, he cut out the scapegoating Ramaphosa for everything

He is indeed prolific...

Yoh!