Over msrp = not getting my business. I hate these greedy dealerships
@jameng1315Ай бұрын
these manufacturers can sell directly to consumers instead of this dealerships bs
@mk2mister2Ай бұрын
@@jameng1315 No, they are not allowed to by law.
@jorgezepeda2461Ай бұрын
You are literally over paying for everything else.
@johnathoncastroАй бұрын
@@jorgezepeda2461 so you're ok with getting ripped off ?
@Flash413Ай бұрын
For every one of you there are others who will pay a markup
@anthonynguyen9779Ай бұрын
Don't buy. Stop buying. Problem solved.😃
@sachinnair91Ай бұрын
Good advice but what if we need to buy a new vehicle now because our old vehicle broke down? I'm in that situation now in Ft Worth Texas and looking for a new 2024 Toyota Corolla LE sedan. All the Toyota DFW dealerships are selling new Corollas for 3-4k over MSRP and refusing to bring the price down. Corollas are a low supply high demand vehicle so dealerships easily sell them for over MSRP. They have no need to discount a Corolla for me, should I just buy a Mazda 3 or Civic instead? I can buy both the 3 or the Civic for under MSRP
@javadabaron81Ай бұрын
@@sachinnair91then you buy the cheaper vehicles bud
@R3AP3R718Ай бұрын
@@sachinnair91 then you buy it...but there is a lot of people that wanna buy whatever is newest no matter what it cost
@yahooskipАй бұрын
Go to where they aren’t charging extra
@GrandPrix46Ай бұрын
Been doing that for... my whole life. Just waiting for you guys to join me.
@markc7274Ай бұрын
Only one to blame is the American consumer that flocks to these cars regardless of price.
@rodneywk1Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@AyaWettsАй бұрын
people are horrible with money... oh I only gotta pay $800 a month for the next 10 years... deal! 🤪
@joerivas9847Ай бұрын
Yup. I remember in the 80s EVERYBODY had to have a Porsche, then the Jeep Cherokee, then..............
@NCrdwlfАй бұрын
It's all the overlanding dip $#*%$.
@budstep7361Ай бұрын
Debt binges usually end with a bang... This bubble is gonna be wild when it pops
@honda116969Ай бұрын
80K for a 4-banger hybrid turbo? NO THANKS 🖕
@schwartzmatthewe16 күн бұрын
I couldn’t believe it was a 4 cylinder. This will not age well.
@dylantech16 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think I’ll just keep my 6-banger ‘21 4Runner 4ever.
@honda11696916 күн бұрын
@@dylantech i would of i was u.. I have a 2022 Tacoma TRD off-road manual & keeping mine as long as i can
@dylantech16 күн бұрын
@@honda116969 Bro, if only my 4Runner was a manual, it would be perfect. Apparently the new ones will have the option, but that would require switching to the 4 cylinder turbo :(
@honda11696916 күн бұрын
@@dylantech no way dude keep what you got your transmission is super reliable. Ya Manuel is nice sometimes but it's also nice to have a RELIABLE automatic haha 🛻💨💪👍🇺🇸
@jameshoopes6467Ай бұрын
The purpose of a dealership is to grift as much money out of you as possible. I’d call them thieves, but when you walk in voluntarily, you get screwed by choice.
@LK-bz9skАй бұрын
Yes. Vulture middle men inserted between us and the manufacturer. Like the Realtor model.
@vladislavmkrtychev8852Ай бұрын
So how else would I buy a new vehicle?
@MattRolls5280Ай бұрын
Dealerships are a necessity of the system due to regulation prohibiting automakers from selling directly to buyers. It is a “consumer protection” regulation. Now you know who to blame for this.
@punchcat0736Ай бұрын
Wrong deslers compete with other dealers and that help push the price down . Go get a Tesla that has worked so well for the consumer 🤣🤣🤣
@marcochavanne25 күн бұрын
That's capitalism baby!
@mann8098Ай бұрын
Now that the engines are smaller, have turbo (aren't naturally aspirated), recalls and issues are popping up. They can keep their new Landcruisers. Reliability is not the same.
@benjaminv.3172Ай бұрын
100%. The new (made in Mexico) Tacomas and Tundras are hot garbage in build quality, and I’ve started to hear of build quality issues with the new GX. All this on top of the well-documented engine issues. Sad how far Toyota has fallen.
@mann8098Ай бұрын
@benjaminv.3172 The GX is legendary, and they just messed that up too
@mydian76Ай бұрын
@@benjaminv.3172 Tundra's are made in Texas
@benjaminv.3172Ай бұрын
@@mann8098 Yep, cheap plastics with the interior, hood rattle, more body roll, louder cabin noise. KZfaqr Josh’s Cars of Japan did a great review of the GX550 and how far the quality has fallen compared to Lexus of the past. Keeping my decade-old GX460 as long as possible.
@NCrdwlfАй бұрын
My parents volvo xc90 has a four Banger with a turbo and supercharger and they've already replaced the engine at 60k. Along with a bunch of electronics .
@peteremmett8332Ай бұрын
Greed greed greed...don't buy into it. It's unreal what goes on in the U.S. You don't need a Toyota that bad...
@joeashbubemmaАй бұрын
Is it though? Do you understand how the global markets, central banking system works? Communists use this catch all word to hide the fact that they know NOTHING about economics, and more than likely support the very tyrants who creates and perpetuates it all.
@BonanzakingАй бұрын
Lmao debatable. If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard the phrase I should’ve bought the Toyota from my father’s customers(he was a lifelong mechanic before retiring) I’d have a second small fortune.
@wisenberАй бұрын
@@Bonanzaking That's something you don't hear that often now.
@BonanzakingАй бұрын
@@wisenber I’ve still heard it….mainly from people who buy KIA’s.
@wisenberАй бұрын
@@Bonanzaking That would be something considering Kia's 7/100k warranty.
@superc1361Ай бұрын
Don’t buy them make them keep their cars longer. The consumer has the power.
@bikinggregАй бұрын
Anybody who would pay over sticker for a Toyota, given the engine problems they're having with the new tundras, is out of their mind.
@judahnanas9772Ай бұрын
With or without engine problem, NOBODY unless you have deep pockets, should buy ANY car ABOVE MSRP. And banks shoudnt finance anything above msrp!
@markkennedy5335Ай бұрын
Who says I’m buying a Tundra. This is illegal practice in Canada, why can’t the good old USA do the same? Go to your State senate.
@mister_dave1184Ай бұрын
@@markkennedy5335I watch a guy in Canada and he shows that every car is over msrp?
@DarrenGoodmanАй бұрын
Agree re paying above MSRP. The Tundra is a manufacturing problem not an engineering problem. The Land Cruiser and T4R are made in Japan. Seems to make a difference.
@closer7129 күн бұрын
@@judahnanas9772Banks always will though. Because extended service contracts, GAP policies and hard adds are BIG money makers.
@applianceman600929 күн бұрын
Toyota has lost their way. They aren’t offering any US customer what we want. Hybrids have a place, but nobody wants a turbo 4 cylinder over a V6. No buyer asked for that.
@hippiebits207125 күн бұрын
But we all saw it coming unfortunately
@beater696721 күн бұрын
Do they even have a choice with CAFE standards.
@hippiebits207121 күн бұрын
@@beater6967 Yeah they do given real world mpg on an over worked 4cyl turbo will probably be about be equal to an appropriately sized v6. Turbos don’t save gas if you have to stay on them all the time. 100% same deal with the v6 in the heavier 5th gen. It gets about the same mpg as the v8 does in the 4th gen. We can blame them for the standards but their work around a have been less than ideal for consumers.
@Thesinfultruth18 күн бұрын
It a casual… All these trucks should be V8 and ur talking about v6s They already got ur mind u casual
@applianceman600917 күн бұрын
@@Thesinfultruth I meant V6 in the Tacoma and 4Runner. I wish they’d make a V8 4Runner again. There never was a V8 Tacoma. The Tundra needs the V8 and not the V6 that grenades itself.
@nameblockedАй бұрын
I don't blame Toyota or any of these greedy dealerships. I blame the clowns throwing their money at them.
@mikeclark1111Ай бұрын
Exactly. No one makes the consumer buy these vehicle at these prices.
@faikerdogan2802Ай бұрын
This. If I was a dealer I would do the same. Why wouldn't I sell at a higher price when clowns pay these prices
@Xander1SheridanАй бұрын
it's all on the dealers. Toyota can't do anything by law. consumers could easily fix this but they are either greedy or cowards.
@AA-vr8ezАй бұрын
No, I blame the greedy dealerships.
@faikerdogan2802Ай бұрын
@@AA-vr8ez u know u can get the car at msrp if u order it and can wait for it
@jr6577Ай бұрын
Dealers are the domestic terrorists of everyone's wallet😂😂😂😂😂
@islandhopper100Ай бұрын
you and you alone are responsible for your behavior.
@Silver891_Ай бұрын
I was planning to buy a landcruiser this year but overpricing and bad engine quality made me change my desire on buying any new car at these times . Let those overpriced cars rot in their lots.
@mydian76Ай бұрын
2021 Tacoma owner here. I prefer buying new and by the looks of it I won't be buying another Toyota
@davidanderson846919 күн бұрын
They and the new Tundra are butt ugly.
@onestopfunstop317Ай бұрын
I wouldn't buy any Toyota anymore. They went from the best, most reliable engine/transmission combos in History, to Complete Garbage with Cars that won't last the length of the payments, over night. I'd rather have an early 2000s Camry or Avalon than a new Toyota Truck. Their 25yr old used cars will out last their brand new 2025 trucks sitting on their lots today.
@schwartzmatthewe16 күн бұрын
Pretty much. We can thank the EPA and the current administration for the sudden changes. Someone needs to stand up to the government.
@grantlarson3387Ай бұрын
Well, I'm getting a Mazda.
@atticstatticАй бұрын
Good choice
@ricksays7133Ай бұрын
That's more fun and just as reliable as a Toyota.
@StripedTurkeyАй бұрын
4 years on and I’m still thrilled to get behind the wheel of my MX5!
@talisikid1618Ай бұрын
Great choice. One of my friends is in the process of doing just that.
@NCrdwlfАй бұрын
My wife and I bought a used cx 5 with 80k on it for our nasty dog car ( we have coon hounds that shed alot) . That thing has 140k on it now and the only maintenance has been gas oil rubber and fluids . It's AWD system is phenomenal.
@sferg9582Ай бұрын
Any dealer that would take the window sticker off is not going to get any of my money.
@JeepCherokeefulАй бұрын
Federal law requires that window sticker on all new cars so…
@johnathoncastroАй бұрын
@@JeepCherokeeful Yet most dealers don't have the sticker on. Just check pictures on any inventory...you can ask for it but most people dont.
@SLHJR039017 күн бұрын
@@johnathoncastroit’s illegal in America
@johnathoncastro17 күн бұрын
@SLHJR0390 It may be illegal but I see it all the time in my area. Even on the website they don't show the sticker
@SLHJR039017 күн бұрын
@@johnathoncastro report them. Remind the dealer. That’s bs
@ScottParisiАй бұрын
My local dealer is doing the same yet they have 107 Tundras and 83 Tacomas sitting on the lot. Good stuff.
@Lee-tw8vl18 күн бұрын
Give em another month or two. Things will change...
@frankwhite4463Ай бұрын
one sold today on cars and bids for less than sticker...the demand isn't really there
@cowboys4lyfjv591Ай бұрын
Good.
@L.LАй бұрын
Good we should keep it that way
@thebigempty_5792Ай бұрын
The new Land Cruiser is a Land Loser
@Singlesix6Ай бұрын
"The Monroney sticker is required to be affixed to the side window or windshield by the manufacturers before shipment of new vehicles to the dealer for sale in the United States and it can only be removed by the consumer (Chapter 28, Sections 1231-1233, Title 15 of the United States Code)." The fine for the dealer taking it off is $1,000.
@technom3598Ай бұрын
Its amended that it only has to be on displah.
@shadowhound5113Ай бұрын
So they add an adjustment fee of $5000
@ashlyknapp1798Ай бұрын
the fine is $10,000 per car the window sticker must be on the window of the car under federal law
@connor_flaniganАй бұрын
and? there's no law that says they have to post the window sticker on an internet website.
@ashlyknapp1798Ай бұрын
@@connor_flanigan you are absolutely correct but it does give you an insight to the tricky nature of the dealer. That rare brand-new automobile you want is being built at a rate of one every 37 seconds. Best wishes
@iddddaduncanАй бұрын
Failed to say the engine choices in these new Toyotas all SUCK
@michaelkinnear520925 күн бұрын
Have you driven one to have this kind of statement? We all want to know.
@joedaniel389424 күн бұрын
They actually don't. I test drove the Land Cruiser and loved it. The responsiveness from the turbo and the torque are similar to my wife's 23 Highlander. Same same, but different. However, they wanted $65k for a base 1958, lol. I bought a 24 Tundra 1794 4x4 out the door at that price instead.
@iddddaduncan24 күн бұрын
@@joedaniel3894 It would have been nice for the amount of money these beautiful cars are to put a turbo V8 in them.
@---rg1gb22 күн бұрын
Yes
@walawala-fo7ds21 күн бұрын
Why are they selling them? Mark-ups is due to demand
@phaseboundary5323Ай бұрын
Huge dealer markups, engine recalls, cheating on safety tests, sleazy dealers--such a tempting offer!
@technom3598Ай бұрын
Most dealers arent grtting thr mark ups few engine recalls and the saftey cheat never affected the us
@islandhopper100Ай бұрын
but wait! there's more...toyota will be detuning new hybrids via sofware updates because the cheap parts they use cannot handle the torque.
@DB-sd3cw6 күн бұрын
New ceo must be jewish
@SqueegeeKid.Ай бұрын
That Land Cruiser looks like this 🚙 plain “vehicle” emoji. 😂😂
@lauriekh9072Күн бұрын
😂😂
@movdqaАй бұрын
The most I've paid for a new Toyota is $25K. I asked for pricing for a new Camry and they've sent me offers every month for a year and call me regularly. I'm waiting for an offer under $30K. I've always been a cash buyer at my local dealership so they know that I can just write a check to buy a car. I have 2 old Camrys that run just fine and I'll just keep driving them for now.
@BRLaueАй бұрын
You aren’t the customer they want. They want the loan process in-house to make up for the flooring expenses.
@movdqaАй бұрын
@@BRLaue They probably expect the cash customer to buy much more expensive cars too.
@BRLaueАй бұрын
@@movdqa I sometimes pay cash but don’t disclose that until I’ve seen the deal. Same with the trade-in
@tonycj7860Ай бұрын
@@BRLaue That's true. They will milk more money out someone who takes a loan out. But if they can still make a quick sale, possibly with add-ons (Warranty, tint, etc.). Why not?
@BRLaueАй бұрын
@@tonycj7860 Agreed, that’s why I decide when I see the final deal whether I pay cash, take a loan, work a trade-in into the deal or walk. The last couple of years it has been mostly walk.
@topofthegreenАй бұрын
the 4 cylinder turbo is a deal killer for me.
@joncarbone19 күн бұрын
Yup. That engine belongs in a small sedan.
@MediumBluWonderАй бұрын
This makes 0 sense to me. If they are going to charge Lexus GX prices you may as well go and buy a Lexus GX. The dealer near me is selling GXs left and right at MSRP, while the Land Crusiers are just sitting around at the Toyota dealer down the street.
@Betamax84Ай бұрын
Nailed it
@leefritchman9643Ай бұрын
The gx is 85k
@Betamax84Ай бұрын
@@leefritchman9643 used ones are less
@leefritchman9643Ай бұрын
@@Betamax84 if u wanna compare apples to apples then you compare new to new
@TheFirst1278Ай бұрын
People are dumb enough to not know they are both Toyotas. Lexus is the biggest psychological scam Toyota successfully deployed over the American consumer.
@billmarshall2536Ай бұрын
Anyone who pays a markup deserves to get screwed. Just because Toyota puts a sticker on the window doesn't mean you have to pay it. I bought a new Toyota a few months ago. It had a sticker with $2600 in add-ons and a $2500 price markup. I told the salesman I wasn't paying it, nor MSRP, and call me if they wanted to deal, and then I left. He called 30 minutes later, and I drove away paying under MSRP.
@BrianPowell-bb1unАй бұрын
I come to watch the super animated hand movements
@awesomearizona-dinoАй бұрын
I WONDERED what was disturbing me !!! now i cant watch anymore.
@SliderFury1Ай бұрын
I like it 😅
@jsd354Ай бұрын
My wife was born/raised in the Bronx. Her whole family talks with their hands. They also speak loudly and have a funny accent, being from Alabama it was like learning to speak another language. I never get bored watching and listening to. Another thing I realize is they communicate and listen to each other. New Yorkers are good people until they start talking politics!
@randalljwarren151Ай бұрын
Channeling their inner “Scotty Kilmer” (the king of talking with his hands)
@dahveed284Ай бұрын
Prices are way up and quality seems to be down with the Tundra motor failures. Not a good combination.
@davidhouston7812Ай бұрын
Dealerships are out of their minds. Proper title
@Jay-bw3flАй бұрын
Just find the VOLUME dealer closest to you. There is always a volume dealer in every market who doesn’t charge mark ups. Ours in nashville is Beaman Toyota. You may have to get on a wait list for an allocation but they won’t charge a mark up.
@cyronaderАй бұрын
80k for a 4 cylinder car.....yikes
@mk3driftmotionАй бұрын
To get around "market adjustment" they are doing things like adding $1000 windshield protection, $1500 Lojack, $1500 paint protection, and $3000 extended warranty.
@tukos737024 күн бұрын
I got charged $700 for nitrofilled tires once. Gtfo
@av5504Ай бұрын
Bought a 2024 Camry a few months ago below msrp. Not all dealerships have markups, you just might have to go outside your town to find a deal.
@croaker4747Ай бұрын
That’s because the demand for sedans is low.
@trumpeldorfАй бұрын
It’s easy to cry about a high price, but for some reason no one wants to stop buying at this price )) I'm not even talking about those who take out loans to buy a car that is beyond their financial capabilities.
@madwarrior84Ай бұрын
We the consumers have a say in this market with our wallets, hold firm…
@williamrossetter9430Ай бұрын
Toyota has hubris, and given the transmission problems of the new Tacomas and the engine problems of the Tundra, most of us will go elsewhere when we find out the above MSRP at the Toyota dealers. Who is in charge of customer strategy at TMCC?
@joepup8348Ай бұрын
Customers were begging Toyota to keep that V8 even before the problems with the new engines. So Toyota took a page from the 'Don't give your customers what they want" and ditched their legendary powertrain, what made the Land Cruiser and other trucks so reliable and powerful. I don't know who advises them but they should start listening to the people who buy their cars...or did.
@Craig-ml8nw17 күн бұрын
I was in the market for a new one, but stopped. I had a dealer tell me I needed to buy now 4 months ago because prices were going up. I told her "that's the wrong way, I'll talk you when you guys are hurting." In this economy, These dealers not willing to offer a discount are out of their minds. Just wait 6 months, the country is heading for a major fall.
@yourtoyotamann7 күн бұрын
The dealership I work for does not charge over msrp for vehicles (except for special or limited production edition vehicle like trd pros) even when dealerships started doing that we didn't. The thought was, when things go back to quasi normal, customers will remember that dealerships charging over msrp did them dirty.
@ciuvic1984Ай бұрын
All my local toyta dealers are charging at least 4k over the MSRP, and their sales are low . They are calling all customers in the base to buy a new vehicle
@mythicalmountancentralasia6183Ай бұрын
For a 4 cylinder, they can keep them all.
@chrisbullard590126 күн бұрын
The problem isn’t the manufacturers or the dealerships. This is a US Federal Reserve monetary policy problem. The Fed has driven the value of the dollar so far into the ground, a car, a house, and raising a family is near impossible for someone who isn’t making six figures and got a head start making all the right decisions 10-15 years ago.
@ChrisACiufoАй бұрын
Since most people’s income isn’t going up 20% per year like Toyota’s MSRPs, they will price themselves out of their market. Stop buying! BTW, this happened with previous gen Land Cruiser and this new one WAS SUPPOSED to be much cheaper to get customers back. But with dealer Mark ups and these high option packages, the “lower” price point seems to be fake.
@mynock250Ай бұрын
On the Toyota USA website ALL land cruisers in the north east are 10k listed above MSRP.
@jordez1Ай бұрын
Here in west Houston dealerships Lexus are charging close to 5 thousand on new NXs models. I’m just going to wait a little longer.
@sachinnair91Ай бұрын
Charging even more in DFW. I should come down to Houston. New Corollas are definitely cheaper in Houston than DFW!
@tomnguyen68305 күн бұрын
i was getting quotes for 55k on the new RX luxury, my sister in-law bought one for 75k. I showed her the breakdown sheet i got from lexus at 55k and called her an idiot and laugh in her face. hahah
@sachinnair915 күн бұрын
@@tomnguyen6830 she probably really dislikes you now, is it worth it?
I’ve never understood people blaming Toyota or the car dealerships for markups. If buyers didn’t pay the markups then there would be no markups. At the end of the day a car company is a business and they here to make money, and if they can make that extra money from consumers, they will. If we as customers stopped paying the markups then there will be no markups
@benhu509Ай бұрын
Fellas! Stop being a Toyota simp!
@FloridaFrank2010Ай бұрын
Toyota needs to go direct to consumer, as all manufactures need to offer now.
@signkutter9218Ай бұрын
beginning of the year , i tried to buy a prius. As I was getting ready to leave n the 2 hour trip to pick up the car. i called to put a $500 dollar deposit on an agreed on price. The sales guy told me he couldn't take a deposit because the car was going to be up for auction and the only way they would sell the car was with a $8k markup
@tomnguyen68305 күн бұрын
8k markup on a prius? wow
@chuckm8472Ай бұрын
You can keep it ! Probably will be a nightmare in warrenty claims.
@MasonSwick-qx3jbАй бұрын
Shame on Toyota 😡
@JustinSeara18 күн бұрын
Wait, $55k for a Toyota Land Cruiser doesn’t sound like a lot. A Land Cruiser in 2001 cost about the same, not couldn’t for inflation, so these are actually cheaper. How is this expensive for Toyota’s historically flagship SUV?
@monkeymule1286Ай бұрын
At these prices, is it worth it to rebuild an old FJ45?
@blackgold754Ай бұрын
That’s why I’m considering Hyundai. Sure camriesbare affordable but hard to get features that you want like HUD and 360 cam and they’re expensive without any of these features. At least Hyundai has these features as standard
@hp-fx9pvАй бұрын
This will be the easiest car buying process for me. If 6th gen 4Runner is insanely priced, I’ll buy something else.
@HiPlains1Ай бұрын
It will be since its based of the same TNGA body on frame as the Tacoma. So expect the same price hikes as the 2024 taco except more. 60K for base SR5's if your lucky. TRD pro's will probably start at 70K plus. They are not going to build this in Japan with the same 2.4 turbo hybrid system and charge less then the taco. Its going to have insane pricing. Just like all their new TNGA body on frames are. They did it with the Tundra, then with the taco, the LC and next the 4 runner.
@technom3598Ай бұрын
Lol. You coulsnt be more wring. 4runners will be under land cruiser pricing. NOT ABOVE. LOL where do you idiots come up with this shit @@HiPlains1
@islandhopper100Ай бұрын
@@HiPlains1 The 2025 4Runner will be built in Toyota Motor Corporation's Tahara plant in Japan. you have been fact checked!
@HiPlains1Ай бұрын
@@islandhopper100 Read again what I said carefully "They are not going to build this in Japan with the same 2.4 turbo hybrid system and charge less then the taco." Not the best sentence structure but I did say they won't build the same platform truck for less money then the Taco which is made in Mexico. And yes I know they made the 4 runner along with the GX, landcrusier etc.. As they have done for decades. See what you did? You took the first part "they are not going to build this in Japan" and responded without reading the rest. If you were alert enough you would have seen my point that making TNGA platform trucks in Japan cost allot more then using slave labor in Mexico. No way a Japanese made truck is going to cost less then a Mexican made body on frame. I'm not fact checked because I already know these will come from the Tahara plant along with just about everybody else that knows anything about toyota.
@islandhopper100Ай бұрын
@@HiPlains1 tricksy hobbit! A used lx600 8cyl is going to be king making this entire discussion irrelevant anyway. Toyota is now using flimsy parts in comparison. That 4cyl turbo hybrid will deliver more torque causing all manner of problems on the now under designed toyotas.
@sandystanley123723 сағат бұрын
Calling this monstrosity a Land Cruiser is like calling a poodle a wolf
@watchchimp3102Ай бұрын
Both the new 4Runner and Land Cruiser are striking in appearance. BUT, while a lot of casual consumers may buy both; they are, in essence, enthusiast vehicles. That being the case, enthusiasts are showing resistance to the new turbo or hybrid drive trains. They might be fine enough for the soccer moms, but do they have the long-term reliability that hard-core Toyota buyers value? It's still early, but initial impressions of the Tundra have been less than spectacular. It's quite possible Toyota has shot themselves in the foot. 😢
@jr6577Ай бұрын
Dealers are as bad as Hamas!😂😂😂😂
@AP-lh1bq21 күн бұрын
Not someone who has friends and family there I see.
@etuitivemillionaireАй бұрын
Let that turbo sit on the lot 🙄. Nobody is rushing to buy them
@brandonpotts5420 күн бұрын
The 300 series LC was literally 90k before taxes and most people could not afford it. That was the whole point of introducing a smaller cheaper Land Cruiser to the states. I can afford this truck and I have no desire to own one. People get so mad about not being able to get a depreciating asset like a vehicle. I drive a 5 year old truck and I'm fine with it. Who wants a car payment right now anyway. I find most people complaining about the price of these vehicles are the same people asking for 4k off an LE Corolla. If you need discount on a $24,000 dollar car you can't afford new car. The only price I found ridiculous is the Tacoma prices. I could buy a pretty well equipped Tundra or base Land Cruiser for what they are charging for a loaded up Tacoma.
@danielrogers4072Ай бұрын
Buy used, buying new is unrealistic for most people at current new prices.
@K42023Ай бұрын
A dealership tried sell me a first edition for $97,000.00. I told them to FK OFF.
@---rg1gb22 күн бұрын
Well done
@JohnWilliams-nr3vi21 күн бұрын
Just wait until you get the quotes for a Land Rover, Mercedes (any SUV) and the new VW Touareg…not sure what alternative you expect to get for cheap. Basically sheep mentality, it’s cool now to hate on Toyota whereas a rational person knows that the car market in general is currently overpriced.
@eee2115Ай бұрын
Toyota and Honda have some of the lowest inventories out there. There is no excuse anymore. Why are other manufactures able to produce more cars? I would pass on both and get a Mazda....this from a Honda/Toyota fanboy. Vote with your $.
@sachinnair91Ай бұрын
Toyota is purposely keeping inventory down. That's why Corollas are in such low supply, lower supply of Corollas than Civics
@joshdudeguy283013 күн бұрын
I put a deposit down for a Trailhunter Tacoma at my local Houston area Toyota dealer. When it comes in, I'm asking them if they can do MSRP. If not, my dealer already told me I can actually get my deposit back because we use the same guy every time in my family and he doesn't want to lose my whole family over the deal falling through.
@geovannib779122 күн бұрын
They tried charging my mom $700 just for black Toyota badges 😭
@youarerightbossАй бұрын
RIPOFF
@sandman9884Ай бұрын
Many Toyota models are cutting out 90% of the market with prices today (Tundra, LC, Sequioa). Don’t blame it all on dealerships. It is mostly the manufacturer’s fault because of them setting the suggested MSRPs as high as they do.
@scottthompson585513 күн бұрын
I had placed a deposit on a Lancruiser. Started looking at other options. I ended up with a 2022 CPO Porsche Cayenne Base Model. Had only 5400 miles and a three year unlimited miles warranty. All in for
@richardmiller3146Ай бұрын
Part of the problem is that the last several years that Land Cruisers were available here in the USA they sold for $80,000-$90,000+ (LC's were sold loaded so this price variance is based on year not model level). So people that previously couldn't afford one are now excited to be able to get one for $55,000 - $77,000, depending on model because the price is a "bargain" compared to years past. So many people are asking who would pay that much for a Toyota! I bought my 2013 LC in December of 2014. It was used with 6,000 miles, and I paid $62,000 (10 years ago!). I still have that LC and could sell it today for $35k+. This is why people by Land Cruisers. Legendary off-road capability and huge retention of value.
@ChrisFromFloriduhАй бұрын
All these manufacturers lost their minds on prices. I went with a 2024 RAV4 over the others because for the price, it’s the best option. I got it under MSRP.
@thebigempty_5792Ай бұрын
Dealer mark ups are so 2021 :D
@BernardBellew3 күн бұрын
I looked at a Nissan Maxima several years ago. There was a paper sticker attached to the main sticker that added $5,000 to the msrp. The salesman did a tap dance when I asked about it. I knew what it was. It is what is known as an AMV (adjusted market value). In other words, we can get 5K more than the msrp because people in your town have the extra money to spend.
@davidrandall2742Ай бұрын
They're called stealerships for a reason.
@Oregon696969Ай бұрын
Looks like a Nissan. Next.
@Adirondack_DFLАй бұрын
it took me a couple times to realize you were saying 4 runner, not foreigner
@rfitzpatrickCOАй бұрын
Toyota keeps charging more and more for an inferior product. Their board is pushing them in the wrong direction instead of just letting Toyota do what it does best. For example, we should have never gotten this Land Cruiser in the U.S. It’s a shame that they went this direction instead of bringing out a real contender to the Jeep and Bronco.
@kenimiller3896Ай бұрын
LOL.....I was confused for a while watching the video. I kept thinking you were saying 'Toyota Foreigner'....and I'm going, is that a new model?
@kilohotel6750Ай бұрын
Supply and demand, that's how things work.
@ld4974Ай бұрын
I drove a 1998 Land Cruiser for 23 years. This is not a Land Cruiser.
@islandhopper100Ай бұрын
new lc= 2025 4runner limited...real lc is a used 8cyl lx600
@awayracketeer6918Ай бұрын
Once it starts going higher than $70,000+ you’re better off getting a Lexus GX550, or for this price range, go even further and get the previous Gen 200-series Land Cruiser (J200) that was discontinued in 2021. It has the same 5.7 liter V8 engine as the previous gen Tundra and Sequoia which were proven to be reliable, and were sold for 13 years from 2008 to 2021. You could even find one from 2008 in the $20,000s, or for around the $70,000 that this new Land Cruiser (J250) is selling for, get a much newer J200 LC from 2016 and up (after its facelift and upgrades in 2016) and get a much better vehicle with a proven reliable power train for 13 years. To go even further, you could also get a Lexus GX460 (a Land Cruiser Prado) for around the same price or less, but still has a 4.6 liter V8 in it that’s been proven to be reliable for 14 years (2009-2023), and probably find newer ones in the $50,000-$60,000 range. As a side note, it’s important to realize this isn’t really a full-size Land Cruiser, but an LC Prado, which is what it actually is even though it’s not in the name. Last full size Land Cruiser was the previously mentioned J200 in the US, which stopped being sold in 2021. They did release the 300-series Land Cruiser (J300) overseas in the Middle East, Australia, Europe, Philippines, and other parts of the world but we did not get it in the US (possibly due to slow sales). The closest thing we got to the J300 in the US was the Lexus LX600 and currently it shares the same twin-turbo V6 engine as the current 3rd gen Tundras and Sequoias. I got to ride in an LC200 and LC300 on the sand dunes in the desert in Qatar on my way home from Asia and I absolutely loved them. It’s a sad thing we didn’t get a J300 in the US in Toyota form, but at least we got the LX600 which is the same platform. Anyways, don’t be fooled by this new Land Cruiser. Overseas where they sell the J300, this new J250 is being offered and sold as a Land Cruiser Prado (basically a smaller LC for city driving but still off-road capable and rugged), but here in the US since we don’t have the full size LC300, they’re just calling this new one a “Land Cruiser”, which in my opinion is misleading and easy to see considering the Lexus GX’s have always been modeled after the Prado, and one might think this new J250 is going to be more “affordable” compared to the previous J200 and new J300 overseas, when in reality both the LC250 and GX550 are just Prado’s without actually having it in the name. In my opinion, save your money and don’t buy these newer vehicles. Guarantee you there will be price clashes with the new 4Runner, Tacoma, and this new LC250 in the lineup. Dealerships are too greedy and want too much money for them, as seen with even the outgoing generations of 4Runners and Tacomas. $50k-$60k is unreasonable for a midsize truck or SUV, and even more for the TRD versions. They need to pull their heads out of the sand and see reality. If people didn’t support their shenanigans by buying these vehicles at their prices with the absurd markups and add-ons, we’d actually have a chance against dealerships and manufacturers. Or better yet, but a more affordable used vehicle of one of the previous generations and save your money for something else or a rainy day. No need to buy these new vehicles right away. Let Toyota work out the bugs and kinks and see if any discounts and incentives come along once dealers realize nobody wants to pay their absurd prices.
@gregorypenetrante1272Ай бұрын
This is the most lucid comment of this video so far! Thank you, brutha!
@santarosa6676Ай бұрын
I was on waiting list for Land Cruiser, got offered one, and finally took for a test drive. After taking a look at the small back space AND seeing a $5000+k markup, I dropped the idea of buying. Math just didn’t make sense. It is a wonderful vehicle, but way overpriced. Now looking seriously at RAV4. Can get slightly below MRSP with no markup. Mudbuster will have to wait.
@stevejones7574Ай бұрын
Toyota has been screwing customers so badly, they've managed to screw themselves. Used to be a Toyota fan; no more.
@HiPlains1Ай бұрын
I've heard this so much on posts. Heard many Yota fans even switching to other brands. The new CEO is very toxic to Toyota's reputation.
@neddoh4300Ай бұрын
Classic supply and demand situation
@regkarn1Ай бұрын
I don't like any car enough to pay dealer markup or dumb fees.
@arthurfaison1338Ай бұрын
The market will determine the selling price of their products. Toyota will sell them or store them and judging from Toyota dealer lots they have plenty of room.
@youtubecarspottersguide1Ай бұрын
honest dealers sell at msrp or discount
@dave3657Ай бұрын
If a dealer isn’t transparent with their price, then I’m not giving them my money.
@punchcat0736Ай бұрын
Youd be a fool to buy a landcruiser now . The dealers are screwing people
@oscarlevipaguada12 күн бұрын
That car doesn’t even deserve the land cruise name. That’s the temu Land Cruiser
@AutotadАй бұрын
The dealer markup in the Bay Area is like $10-15k. Dealership in Colorado doesn’t charge mark up. I could fly out there and enjoy a road trip home and save money.
@zheniatanasova21792 күн бұрын
I have a question. I bought a Toyota Crown 2024 back in November 2023. The online price was about 39 500. I went there, they said it was 41 500. I showed them their own price and they said they will adjust it. Then I go inside to look into buying it and they said after everything the car will be 53 500. I was like WAIT WHAT LOL?! HOW? So, I asked them to give me a break down. At first they gave me some vague breakdown of 5 items that were saying fees. On the 5th time of me asking they brought an itemized list. I told them a bunch of things I didn't even want. They reduced it to 49 500 and still included said things because Toyota Service, alarm and many other things are simply included in the car already, so they can't remove them (like Toyota Service) or take them out (like the alarm). They even charged me for shipping it from Japan lol. My question is: I understand, of course, there would be fees for buying it from the Dealership but how much did they basically rip me off lol? I live in Nevada. Also, when I went for an oil change, one of the salesmen said that basically they sometimes lose money on some sales (like mine) but they still want the customers to be happy. I just dont understand how they lost money on me since I still paid a few thousand above the price they had listed?! Also, things like the Toyota Service plan are part of buying a new car but they charge for it?! When i told them I have insurance, so I won't need this roadside help, they said they will deduct it BUT THEN it was still included even though it got deducted lol?! None of this makes any sense 🤦♀️ I have never bought a new car before, so I tried to read about it as much as I could at the time but it still boggles my mind why the car can't just cost as much as it says on the price tag?!
@ArthropodSpideyАй бұрын
Have they gotten their unreliable twin turbo junk fixed yet?
@vallejoborncalihasbecomeal902222 күн бұрын
Got a 2025 Honda Pilot Touring for 47k just recently. I went through Costco pricing and it knocked off approximately 5k from the price of the vehicle I chose!
@realdj3bka4026 күн бұрын
$60-$70k for a suv with cloth seats is crazy!
@lostjr17 күн бұрын
In N. California, local dealer shows "dealer adjustment" of $4995 right on the website for Land Cruiser. Some sort of "adjustment" is added to nearly all models, especially hybrids. Sienna is $2995. Cross hybrid is $1995. Can't tell about Camrys. One in transit, others "in production." Supply is limited across the board. No one explains that.
@zcolrocks14 күн бұрын
Toyota has the ability to produce at/above demand levels. But, if they “fall behind” demand they can justify these markups. The whole thing is a scam.
@KrzyAZ17 күн бұрын
Southeast Toyota Distributors (SET) is the guilty party here. A lot of areas are actually showing discounts on some vehicles. If you're in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina - you're going to be screwed for a while.
@davidpalmeri32375 күн бұрын
The dealership that will win with the 4runner is the one who says yeah, "send me 500 of them, and sells them" all at msrp. But in reality looks like I'll have to wait a year or two. Fortunately I have a 2017 V6 Highlander.