Audio Equipment Isn't MAGIC - Audio Advice with Andrew Robinson

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Andrew Robinson

Andrew Robinson

4 жыл бұрын

Audio Equipment Isn't MAGIC - Audio Advice with Andrew Robinson
Audiophile equipment isn't magic. It just isn't. People like to criticize my enthusiasm for Crown Audio's XLS DriveCore 2 amplifiers. They say I'm "dumb" or "deaf", or both for liking and buying Crown and using it in my hi-fi system. I do my best to explain why people may think this, as well as let you in on an a few industry secrets behind many so-called better components compared to the Crown.
► CROWN XLS AMPLIFIERS
XLS 1002: amzn.to/2FEdTz7
XLS 1502: amzn.to/35HpkAT
XLS 2002: amzn.to/2FFG80h
XLS 2502: amzn.to/2QKvUlX
Crown ComTech DriveCore Series Amplifier (Lexicon): amzn.to/2FEZFhy
► MY REFERENCE AUDIO AND HOME THEATER SYSTEM
POWER
Naim Uniti Atom All In One Music System: bit.ly/NaimAtom
Musical Fidelity Integrated Amp: bit.ly/M5si
LOUDSPEAKERS
Q Acoustic Concept 300: bit.ly/C300wsA
Klipsch Heresy IV: bit.ly/heresyiv
Jamo S809: amzn.to/356tnK5
SPEAKER STANDS
Kanto Bookshelf Speaker Stands (budget): bit.ly/Kanto26
SolidSteel Speaker Stands (best): bit.ly/SolidAA
TURNTABLES
Audio Technica LP140XP: amzn.to/33OfgXO
Cambridge Audio Direct Drive Turntable: bit.ly/AlvaCA
RECORD PLAYER CARTRIDGES
Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge (better): bit.ly/BlueAA
Ortofon 2M Black Cartridge (best): bit.ly/BLKAA
HEADPHONES
Sony WH-1000XM4 Wireless NCX Headphones: bit.ly/WH1000xm4
SOUNDBARS
SENNHEISER AMBEO: bit.ly/35yLQO1
TOP SMART TVs
LG 8K TV: bit.ly/LG8K99TV
Hisense H9G: bit.ly/H9GTV
TCL 6 Series: amzn.to/35Vn9NO
BLUETOOTH / DESKTOP SPEAKERS
Naim Mu-so V2: amzn.to/33ASZxI
Klipsch The Fives: bit.ly/fivesUS
Kanto YU: bit.ly/YUdesk
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@colossusrageblack
@colossusrageblack 3 жыл бұрын
i have two Crown Amps running as mono blocks. I got so much flack on Reddit audiophile, where people were saying that it's Class D trash, but when I told them they were Class A amps, they would say that it didn't matter. A lot of these "audiophiles" are trolls and morons who judge everything based on $.
@zefrog7482
@zefrog7482 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the whole community has been largely taken over by wealthy types that like to feel the sense of their wealth putting them in a godly position above the perceived peasants. To be honest, the audio industry itself is partly responsible as well for really removing value from the whole scene and whacking sometimes exorbitant prices on stuff that is actually really poorly measuring and sounding but playing to the psychology being used to tell people they need to spend ridiculous money to have any kind of stature in a past-time that once was without such structures. Truth is, the Crown really is capable of destroying a lot of extremely highly priced gear, same with speakers, some costing more than average Joe would ever be able to afford and are a complete mess. It's disheartening to know so many who fall prey to being influenced are really missing out on the very thing that makes music and Hi-fi special, in that it used to bring people together. I was kind of one of those fools to start with, the Crown was a stopgap until I could afford an expensive replacement. Since then I have tried around 10 amplifiers costing between £2000-£3000, and literally A/B'ing against the Crown and literally say 2 of those did things I liked more, but not enough to warrant the amount of cash for the small difference. Even then, neither of those 2 amps came close when it came to ability with dynamic swings and low end control. The other 8, lol, well that was literally knowing within an hour that the Crown just trounced them. Only issues, and that's really stretching it is with the wrong source upper mids can be dry(ish), but again it's far cheaper to just get a new CD player etc. And secondly the highs can be a touch glassy with poorly recorded music, which really isn't an issue with the Crown, and any amplifier that doesn't show these things is obviously not as true to the source/music. After trying the last amplifier on test for 30 days, I've realised that it's not going anywhere, was prepared to spend a certain amount, but there's just no need. Closest contender to replace was the Technics, but it wasn't really better sounding, just looked the part with it's styling, but would have ultimately been a £2500 downgrade really.
@mohammedisaa9952
@mohammedisaa9952 7 ай бұрын
@colossusrageblack ...... Hi 👋🏼 I think the XLi range from crown are A/B technology?..... anyways, the "audiophiles" are just jealous because they dont have the sence to try one.... The RCA connectors on the back are just an added bonus for connecting subs to a home cinema amplifier.... Grwat choice, and just ignore them lol, ive seen what "cleeks" can do when they gang up on people.... From U.K 😂👋🏼👍🏻
@stewartwen1
@stewartwen1 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Andrew, I have been saying for more years than I can remember that well made PA power amplifiers will outperform ANY HiFi amplifier. I use three Crown PSA-2 amp's in my hifi system, the results are staggering. To the point that when people I invite into my home sit on my sofa with their jaws dropping, comments such as, your system sounds absolutely amazing. So quiet and so powerful. I make no apology for using them. A lot of people have been hoodwinked by their choices. I used to write on a couple of HiFi magazines in the UK, when I started the editor said to me, don't let the cat out of the bag regarding Hi Fi products. His comment says it all.
@granttaylor3697
@granttaylor3697 4 жыл бұрын
He is right the difference between high end low end amplifiers these days is very small. Unlike the 1970's / 1980's where there was a very noticeable difference to be had, if anything it highlights how technology has improved over the last 30 years.
@thomaswachter7782
@thomaswachter7782 4 жыл бұрын
Best audiophile vid I have seen in a while. Thank you, Andrew.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@MrBigpoppadave
@MrBigpoppadave 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! I blew a carver up being used for Subs and hooked up my 1502 and have and will never look back.
@Drackleyrva
@Drackleyrva 4 жыл бұрын
I still can't understand why audiophiles eat their young, judge other audiophiles and become 'snobs' over others' equipment. I also dabble in model railroading and don't see this at all. My friends in other hobbies don't encounter it either. Whats the point of calling others in the hobby 'dumb' for their audio choices. Its a real turn-off.
@chrisj9008
@chrisj9008 4 жыл бұрын
This!!!
@humanitech
@humanitech 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly in this life there are always pretentious people around. But don't let the tiny minority put you off. Just ignore them... as there are many many more really nice, like minded and interested folks who are open minded. The problem with hi-fi is that it can be really confusing, expensive and frustrating affaie, but in reality is our own personal journey into appreciating music. So ultimately there is no right or wrong, nor does it really need to cost a fortune...but I guess the snobs have to keep justifying their egos and positions as they have usually lost themselves down the rabbit hole and so can't be happy and appreciate others and their choices.
@golferadam12
@golferadam12 4 жыл бұрын
Because I took his advice and bought two of these amps...just disappointed. I have modest gear.
@Drackleyrva
@Drackleyrva 4 жыл бұрын
@@golferadam12 Me too!
@everything777
@everything777 5 ай бұрын
I think it's because it's ultimately a subjective experience and matter of taste, so it becomes ultra tribal and personal. It's like someone who likes pizza arguing with someone who likes burgers - pointless
@scotttrindl1192
@scotttrindl1192 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago I needed a new power amp for my Magnepan 1.7's. I had read about the Crown XLS 1502, so went to my local Guitar Center shop and bought one. I brought it home and hooked it up to the maggies, though an Outlaw 990 pre amp processor, and let things warm up for a couple minutes while I read through the Crown manual. The specs certainly looked impressive, especially for the price I paid for it. I wanted to like it! Then I started going through my music library, picking out those selections that I knew well, and knew how good they sounded on my Magnepans. I spent an entire day doing that. After hours of listening I knew that Crown amp, through my Magnepans, was not a sound I could live with. The "Maggie Magic" , that I have loved for the 44 years I've owned Magnepan speakers, was just not there when the Crown was driving them. I packed up the Crown, making sure I packed everything up the way it came from the factory, and returned it to the Guitar Center. I then drove across town to the Audio Dealer I bought my first pair of Magnepans from 44 years ago, and listened to other amps driving 1.7's. That dealer was at the time, an Emotiva dealer as well as a Magnepan dealer. I heard the XPA2 gen 3 driving the 1.7's there. The Maggie Magic was back. The XPA 2 and the Crown had about the same power ratings. They did not sound the same driving my Magnepans. I bought the Emotiva and took one home with me. I still use it and am very happy with it's sound. I'm very glad I didn't try to live with the Crown. It didn't work for me in my setup.
@richardgrumbine4867
@richardgrumbine4867 2 жыл бұрын
I want to second your thoughts and opinions about the Crown XLS amps. I recently had the opportunity to do an a/b comparison with the XLS 1002 and a pair of Trio L0-7M mono-blocks which used go for about 2x the price of the Crown new. Speakers were B&W 604S2 and preamp was a Yamaha CX A5100 controller. The Crown was almost impossible to distinguish from the Trios…. the bass was perhaps a bit more punchy… but only a smidge.. the mid range was identical… the highs were a tad more forward… just barely… I had to really concentrate to successfully differentiate between them… and when I could… it was hard to say which was better… I opted to keep the Crown in my system… cheaper, more efficient, more flexible, and easier to hook up than a pair of mono-blocks. The Trios are in the closet… they are fine amps… but so is the Crown… my only complaint is that they crowns are not beautiful… but then neither are the Trios…
@markfischer3626
@markfischer3626 2 жыл бұрын
As an electrical engineer if I needed an amplifier today the Crown Drive Core is the only one I'd consider. I was familiar with Crown before their first amplifier when they manufactured tape decks. Their tape deck were as good as prosumer decks got. The circuit boards were built to military standards and they were rated to survive a parachute drop in their own case. They were used in many radio stations. Everything they made was ultra reliable. Their first amplifier the DC 300 was the first high powered amplifier offered to the consumer market. That was in 1968. Many are still operating today. Their one dog was the IC150 preamplifier but there's a fix for it by swapping for a better op amp chip. In the pro market when a company like Bryson has to bid against Crown for a contract they take a very sharp pencil.
@charlessacks9909
@charlessacks9909 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, New here. I just picked up a XLS 1502. - system: Keces power conditioner - Audioquest power cords - Questyle CMA 400i as Dac/preamp - Cambridge CD transport - Kef Q1 bookshelves. Audio perfection. NO HISS AT ALL. No Fan. Thank you Andrew. I don't like too much base - so this is perfect. Getting better as it's playing. I'm glad that it fits well with my system. This is audio's best kept secret. ...........The fan just came on for a short while - can't hear it - I was looking for it.
@frankvasquez3255
@frankvasquez3255 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew long time listener love your shows man learned so much by watching your topics but I have a question on the crown drive core 2 2502 thinking of buying a marantz 7706 pre amp processor would this pre amp let the crown reach its max potential on performance due to the amp its a pro amp not a regular consumer product? I do also have 3 more crown drive core in my system but I have it rigged up with a Onkyo RZ 820 receiver pre out hooked up to Rolls Promatch converts to convert the consumer 1.0v signal to over 1.4v to run my amps to its max potential. My old Onkyo sounds good but I heard good things about the Marantz 7706 let's face it its a much better system hands down . So my question is would I get a better cleaner sound on movie theater experience As on listener to music and I love my music loud! Any advice would help bud truly appreciate you brother.
@stanislasflipo7214
@stanislasflipo7214 Жыл бұрын
crown actually have a great pedigree, they were used in the pro audio world and were one of the standards.
@johnoakes7922
@johnoakes7922 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for any reviews on these three amplifiers....Behringer Professional A800 800-Watt Reference-Class Class D Power Amplifier Behringer NX4-6000 4-Channel Class-D Power Amplifier and Behringer NX6000D 6000-Watt Class-D Power Amplifier with DSP Control and SmartSense Loudspeaker Impedance Compensation I hope you review these in the near future....Thank you Andrew for the video. Would love to see weekly reviews, or more reviews on D class amps or other videos on the newest DAC's that can be implemented in systems....I am a 40+ yr long audiophile. I had chased the Audiophile dream all my life...always to feel I need something better. Well, to make a long story short. I gave away in 2012 my Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V receiver that I purchased around 2009. It was heavy and felt I needed a couple fans cooling it down. I only had about 40hrs total on the receiver and was in new/mint condition. I purchased a cheapo Lepai D class amp 20w x 20w @4ohm (I think) soon after I gave away my Yamaha. I was so impressed with what this tiny class D was delivering. It sparked my audiophile flame again. I am will get either the Crown XLS 2502 or the Behringer Pro A800 reference class, D Class amplifier. Getting the Emotiva BasX PT-100 Pre-Amplifier as well Now to me it is all about performance for $. Now days you no longer have to purchase every year for the best....Now you can make a wise choice and be satisfied for years. When you do decide to upgrade it will be easier and a heck of a lot cheaper. Now if we can only get $200 speakers that can rival $20,000 speakers.. It can be done....the Crown XLS line proves that. Amplifiers don't have to weigh so freaking much. Give me clean and light over brute force that is so darn inefficient any day. P.S. with the Coronavirus crises, this has paused any purchases until everything is safe and close to normal.
@russmaleartist
@russmaleartist 4 жыл бұрын
I use the Crown 1502 . . . in fact, I have two at this point. I replaced two monoblock heavy-duty amps, and the detail, the tonal purity (timbre), the sound staging, a silent background (which the monoblocks never had), and the imaging with 3-D holographic effects immediately sold me on these amps. I had heard them at another audiophile's house, who had and could afford most anything they wanted . . . and he had the first edition of the Crowns . . . and when I heard them I was impressed -- still am; in fact, I may buy two more to turn my speakers into an active speaker system.
@eddiejennings5262
@eddiejennings5262 Жыл бұрын
Hello Andrew. My dad gave me a Crown DC-300a Amp and IC-150 Pre-amp years ago. I used the DC-300a for years; I personally did not like the IC-150. I actually was honored to give the Crown gear to an audiophile friend of my dad. Based upon your review and one on ASR, I bought a crown xls 1002. I hook to my Maranatz pre-out. I have pair of Bozak B305 and pair of Klipsch RF-II speakers. This tiny little best drives both and I'm really enjoying, I swap on and off both with my BK ST2140. I'm enjoying the sound of the Crown XLS 1002 - incredible performance from the Crown and I've not warmed it up yet, literally.
@666PANDEMONIUM
@666PANDEMONIUM 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just purchased a pair of Crown 2502s based on your persistent praise of the xls drivecore series. I'm going to use them in bridged mono. I can't wait to see how they sound! My speakers have a peak handling of 600W at 8-4ohms so these should give me plenty of headroom.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 4 жыл бұрын
You will have MORE than enough headroom for sure. If you're worried about noise floor, just remember to turn the front gain down a click or two and you'll be good to go (that is if you hear any hiss from your speakers at all). Cheers!
@jasonong23c
@jasonong23c 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew was correct. Nothing can beat Crown XLS in term of incredible value. I just purchased a pair of XLS 2002 for Monoblock pairing with a tube preamp, Triangle Signature Delta and Denon reference DAC. The end result was simply AMAZING. Immediate improvement was heard from my previous power amplifier Denon reference 2500. In term of 1) Sound stage is huge 2) Very neutral sound with complete silent in background. The instrument separation was crystal clear 3) Reduced crosstalk due to Monoblock setting at fraction of cost 4) Powerful, fast and dynamic bass due to 1200 watt per channel in Monoblock 5) High power efficiency with no heating issue In summary, it is simply AMAZING what a sub $500 amplifier could do. The sound signature produced was on par if not better with any high end amplifier that cost a fortune. I believe that Class D is the future of amplifier technology.
@dungysphincter7974
@dungysphincter7974 4 жыл бұрын
I have couple of the Crown 2502's. I can max the volume without pushing a signal to the amp... I only hear a slight hiss with my ear almost against the tweeter. Not enough that you could even hear in a dead silent room. I have had vintage audio equipment of pristine status that was on par with the Crowns. My speakers sensitivity are 98db SPL too. I have owned quite a bit of high end gear. The Crown's can hold their own. For the money, they can't be beat for power, efficiency and features. Not yet... The Crowns match very well with the Emotiva PT-100 (which has a decent DAC built in, or use of a different good DAC (Aune X8 Magic DAC, JDS Labs EL DAC II, The ES9038Q2M SABRE32 Reference DAC, AK4490 - AK4499 etc.) and also using tubes as a buffer, if you want a fuller bodied richer sound. I would use good quality JBL or Klipsch speakers at least. People can get Audiophile grade gear on the cheap these days!!! What can be had for $5,000 today, would have cost you $50,000 or more 20yrs ago. Think about it...
@davidboggs7519
@davidboggs7519 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you hit on two of my passions at once. I'm a drag racing engine builder and a music fan (not an audiophile). I like the Crown amps very much, you get a lot for very little money. A minor correction about the Ford GT40, which is the original car from the mid- late 60's, the GT is the modern super car. The 427 side oiler high riser from the GT40 is technically in the FE family of engines, 352, 360, 390, 406, 427, and 428. The 427 uses a completely different stroke to bore ratio, a vastly different oiling system, and very different induction than the 352-390 truck engines. Consequently the GT40 engine used a different block, crank, rods, pistons, heads, intake, practically everything. I'm certainly no expert on audio equipment, I am a professional in respect to race engine history. Love your videos, and thank you for your consistent honesty, its truly refreshing.
@beitie
@beitie 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video, but as a car nut, I can't fully accept the analogy. The Ford 427 engine was a truck engine, yes, but Shelby and the Ford engineers made major changes to the crank for sure, and I would venture to guess the valve train to an extent as well to make that engine do what it did in the 24 hours of Le Mans. You just can't take the soft springs on a stock truck engine and get them to operate at 7 or 8,000 RPM with out changing things up. Springs need to be stiffened or they will 'float' causing the engine to choke out and not efficiently allow the air and fuel mixture to be sucked into the combustion chamber. Also, with just a little searching, I was able to find an article that interviews a Ford Engineer who help re design the entire push rod of the FE engine. So while you had the right idea, and I love where you're heart was at, the analogy just wasn't quite there, because in the ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) world, the valvetrain is exactly where the 'magic' happens.
@patrickgeorge141
@patrickgeorge141 Жыл бұрын
He was not talking about the original GT40, he was talking about the GT.
@tc-bladeofgrass6719
@tc-bladeofgrass6719 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, great to see someone of authority in the industry coming out on this. This year I built my own amp, do a search for "modulus 86", the amp was designed with one thing in mind, lowest distortion. The designer included extensive test measurements on the site and it beats pretty much every expensive amplifier you can think of. Have a look at it, I think it will appeal to you ethos. I'm not the designer of this amp, I don't make any money for recommending it, I'm simply a very satisfied customer and audio enthusiast
@truckyouable
@truckyouable 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a XLS 1002 about a year ago because you liked Crown. First tried a homemade passive preamp, not loud enough. Then a Schiit SYS, impressive. Recently tried a FX-Audio Tube-01, OMG perfection! I'm driving Ohm Walsh 2's and have zero noise problem. TY AR.
@claytonproctor7514
@claytonproctor7514 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old Crown XTi 2000 that I used in my DJ setup back in the day. It is still in immaculate condition and ALL the clubs had racks of Crown and QSC Amplifiers back then. And those clubs hit so hard it would take your breathe away and the sound was clean clean clean LOL. Personally I have never thought about using it in my Home Stereo system until now LOL. So is there enough of a difference between the XTi series to upgrade to the new XLS series?
@walterbkeen
@walterbkeen 9 ай бұрын
Own the XLS1502, and just placed an order for the XLS2502. Couldn't be happier.
@mgrmln
@mgrmln 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew (and Kristi!) Well, after your review of the Crown XLS DriveCore2 amplifier, I rolled the dice and picked one up! As I concentrate on my desktop setup during these isolated times, this amp now powers my work from home system paired with a Schiit Asgard3 with MultiBit DAC though ELAC Debut B6.2 on Soundrise stands. This combo is AMAZING! The ELAC's are relatively inefficient speakers so this REALLY woke them up! Thank you for your pragmatic reviews. Please keep them coming. I especially love your out takes with Kristi.
@olsfield
@olsfield 4 жыл бұрын
Well my friend. I wish I could get inside your head and understand all this hifi , stereo equipment. I’m 54 just getting back into listening and enjoying my music again. I thought I did pretty good just finding a 200 watt Stereo from Yamaha. By watching your channel and several others I feel that I might have made a mistake. But , I do understand that you have to start somewhere. But on my end listening to all the reviews on Amos , pre amps , speakers , turntables blah blah blah. I do feel like I am learning. Which is the point of watching your reviews. But , Like I said I may have started on the wrong foot. I mean who knows I may not be able to bye anything else n the future. Who knows. I just may be stuck with what I have. I know you do say the only one that needs to like your system , is me. So far it’s okay. I wish I would have started watching more shows like yours. Oh well. Keep doing what you do. LOVE THE SHOW
@dickydoesaudio3466
@dickydoesaudio3466 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. I had to be convinced to buy the crown amps I have. I needed more power to run my power hungry speakers. So I was looking on the used market for an older parasound, or Rotel, but I seen a few guys using these crown amps, and spoke to couple of them. I went with the 1502 and the 1002 for my front three, the thing I wish I would've done differently is, I would have bought two of the 1502's because the 3 speakers are the same... good video again. First video I've seen from you, and now I'm a subscriber..
@edalvarado2029
@edalvarado2029 4 жыл бұрын
Buy a Crown xls 1002 and coupled to muy Martantz NR1200, Klopsch RP 600M. Just FANTASTIC TY very much. Sr your honesty is all we need
@connellwatters7733
@connellwatters7733 4 жыл бұрын
So after hearing you and another KZfaqr who is a user of the Crown amps, I was able to pick up a pair of XLS 2502 that I’m running in bridged mode. Got a great deal on them at Black Friday prices. I have class A 90 watt mono block tube amps that I wanted to do some a/b listening to. With what I paid for the crown amps I’ll easily be able to get my money back. Funny thing is I have gone back to the tube amps yet and don’t feel like I’ve lost anything. The rest of the rig is well regarded speakers, preamp, dac, streamer and turntable. Very happy camper right now. It’s magical😀
@heathbar74
@heathbar74 4 жыл бұрын
I put a Crown with my Magnepans 2 weeks ago. I think it sounds great. Will probably buy another and biamp. No complaints. Put a Marantz receiver in front of the Crown, and the Crown is transparent. I mean, it in no way degraded the sound I wanted from the Marantz.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what a good amp is supposed to do. Be well and enjoy!
@steverees1936
@steverees1936 4 жыл бұрын
I was glued to this video as it was so interesting to hear your story about your experience with the Crown amp and the analogy with the Ford GT. Brilliant!
@Markdjd15
@Markdjd15 3 жыл бұрын
If someone told me I'd spend this much time watching some guy talking about audio equipment I'd say they were out of their mind. You've ignited the beginning of my new hobby. I hope I can afford it! Your channel is an invaluable tool and a super interesting viewing experience. Thanks for all you do.
@Escko
@Escko 4 жыл бұрын
Thx so much for the video. I have been looking at these amps for home theather but was skeptical as it sounds too good to be true for the price. Very informative videos. Is the XLI series inferior to the XLS for HT?
@BoondockSaint0310
@BoondockSaint0310 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew! I m a subscriber of your channel from your very first review of the crown amps years ago and was impressed by your way of telling that these amps are big bang for the bucks you have to spend for them. They are not perfect if your are looking to the specs an measurements (look at audio science review forum) but for 200 to 400 euro (i live in germany) you can‘t get no better amps. Maybe the IMG stageline 1000-d and 2000-d amps are perfect competitors (class d driven by pascal s-pro2 amps, 1000-d is a stereo amp, 2000-d is a 4-channel amp) and i would be very happy to hear your thoughs about these amps. And for the point of „magic“ in audio video industry or community: sometime people act like „i’ve paid 5 grand for these pair of speakers cables so they MUST be better then anything which costs less!“ and then they think: „a less expansive cable can not be better or equal then my expensive cable because the ist not allowed to be!!!“ and then they are acting on a very lets say emotional level. Thank for your videos and happy new year!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you and happy New Year to you as well.
@billybastar4022
@billybastar4022 4 жыл бұрын
How does the XTi differ from XLS? Would love to know if there is a reason to upgrade
@hi-fihaven2257
@hi-fihaven2257 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see you man, a great to know you are on the mend. FYI I am going to pick up a Crown XLS- 1502 this week. It will be used for music, and home theater. Another awesome episode, thank you much man!
@humanitech
@humanitech 4 жыл бұрын
Great update I want to buy an xls1502 and use my peachtree Nova integrated as a pre-amp amp RCA to RCA . But I am a little concerned as the old has voltage input sensitivity options and I can't find the peachtree RCA voltage output therefore wonder if it is critical which setting to use
@humanitech
@humanitech 4 жыл бұрын
Oops...prodictive text error... I meant xls not old
@robertgruber982
@robertgruber982 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. I ordered one of these from Amazon to hear for myself. In my system, a Rotel 1520 integrated driving Swan Diva 4.1s, it was night and day. They dynamics are incredibly better and I'm hearing parts of the music that I've never heard, particularly in the low and mid bass. Sometimes acoustic bass solos in jazz used to sort of disappear, now I can hear every note. It really is like lifting a veil in my case. Just to confirm when my wife walked in, I just had her sit down and play a track (she choose a Bob Marley song off Kaya I think). She immediately said oh my god. This sounds amazing. Then when I explained what was happening, she was like, so you've been under powering the speakers for 12 years? And I had to say, yeah I guess so. It keeps getting better. I'm looking for excuses to just sit down and listen to music just to see how it sounds. One of the tracks she choose, Brubeck's Take Five, I've heard literally hundreds of times, on lots of different equipment and I've never, ever heard it sound so good. It's a dynamic track and man it was just riveting. If you think you might need some extra power, give it a try. Unfortunately, this ruins my argument to buy some new speakers...
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you've had a positive experience! Enjoy!
@bigvbigdts
@bigvbigdts 2 жыл бұрын
Recently i plug in my crown xti 2002 to my front left and right..before i used crown for my subs.. Amazing audio quality and outstanding power...i can hear more detailed low.. mid.. frequency and the highs also clear.. The only problem i noticed the hiss noice coming from the tweeters. . That is also when i go near to the speakers..now i will connect my 2 xti 2002 to LCR.. And remaing 1 channel connect to my rear sub.. Also i am going to buy another xti 4002 for my 4 infinity kappa 12 inch subs..
@ericperry72
@ericperry72 4 жыл бұрын
So I have watched a lot of your videos in the past and I somehow missed this one. Your analogy about the Ford GT is spot on. And I have one for you, just like the Ford GT, Dodge had the Viper, had a killer V-10, killer styling and performance. The car best the Corvette ZR1 on track times, but unlike the Ford fans, there was always the grumblings from the exotic crowd...it's a truck engine. As if that had anything to do with performance. They, being the so called pure sports car enthusiast, whom I like to the home audio audiophile snobs, where despite the performance, the brand name seems to outweigh common sense. Also I find it funny that these same people assume that you can't hear despite your background, because you gave high praise for a product that delivers, but is sold at guitar center, yet they forget is the same company that makes high-end speakers and amps under a different brand is crazy. Also I can tell you who is ahead of this brand name curve more so than the home audio guys, the Sq can audio guys. We all have know. For a long time that a lot of tech is shared and amps designs aren't that much different and unless that brand has their own engineers you are paying for a name. So a lot of us purchase based on internals, same board design, but the use of high-end filter caps or better op-amps and larger superior mosfets make the added price worth it. As you say, no magic, just science.
@richardgrumbine4867
@richardgrumbine4867 Жыл бұрын
I have one and love it! It replaced a pair or Trio L07M amps in my system. No complaints!
@howardmims8376
@howardmims8376 4 жыл бұрын
I just purchase my Crown amp, An experienced listening fatigue at 1st, And what I Found out there's no mid bass hump that most consumer Amps have. A very clean amp And fast Amp So you have to listen in to the music. And the listening fatigue went away. So farm very happy Thank you
@gruffly78
@gruffly78 Жыл бұрын
I've been using a 1502 to power KEFs for about 5 years now, input from a decent DAC/pre-amp over XLR. I haven't done any A-B comparisons but I'm extremely happy with it.
@mohammedisaa9952
@mohammedisaa9952 7 ай бұрын
Maybe you should ?...... you might get a plesent surprise ??????
@MichaelLivingston-me
@MichaelLivingston-me 4 жыл бұрын
I used Crown amplifiers in the past for studios that wanted accurate and loud playback. Those were class A/B amps. I'm going to really commit hearsay. I bought a Radio Shack MPA-200 on a lark. I saw the circuit design and thought, this is a solid A/B amplifier. The bottom line. It sounds great. I have a much more expensive Denon amp, but this one (rated at the same power), has more "perceived power". At least more headroom. I said perceived, because I haven't benched it and made comparitive measurements. I haven't heard Schitt audio yet, but it seems that using their preamp, I might find the two a good match. Right now I simply have a phono preamp with it's volume control to front end the Radio Shack stereo PA.
@bharadwaj0072002
@bharadwaj0072002 4 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right because I am an audio enthusiast I did a similar experience with crown power amplifier xLi series which is class AB amplifier. I have removed the passive crossover from my svs ultra tower speakers and triamplified these with 3 individual crown XLi amplifiers and used a DBX driverack 360 as an external crossover.i have tweaked the slopes the results were phenomenal. The detail and authority of sound was really good. First time when I saw your video about the drive core series I was able understand what your trying to explain. Don't take it to heart about people making negative comments your doing a great work.
@MrLerch1
@MrLerch1 5 ай бұрын
Hello Andrew, I’ve run across your video of the crown amps, may I ask what are your thoughts today regarding the idea of running a HIFI system in the home. I’m currently using the Onkyo TX NR 1030 9.2 set up, and I have to tell you it sounds pretty darn good w/my Klipsch RP-280FA L/R RC-64 Center SUB RP-1600SW and (6) Pro 8000-L THX which purchased in pairs over time. My TX NR 1030 sound very nice however, it’s time That I upgrade to maybe the latest Onkyo TX-R70, I’ve always thought that Crown or the QSC commercial amp could possibly do a much better job at least on the 3 fronts. It’s sure would be nice to see your take on this kind of set up in today’s music world. and I sure don’t want to spend 50k for an amp when my good old behind the time TX NR1030 which is under powered still to this day sound crisp and clean running my Klipsch’s I would love to run a Pre-Amp Receiver with all the bells & whistles that would carry me into the next century and not have to worry about power.
@bobzealand5692
@bobzealand5692 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought the xls 2502 for my Martin Logan motion 60xti speakers and they sound great I demoed the $5k anthem amp with same speakers and I think the crown is just as good if not better imo
@joshpeters7392
@joshpeters7392 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about buying the same amp! I love the look of it - and I like the preamp with room correction for two channel listening as well, but after this video and your comment here, I've decided to go ahead and buy the crowns and see what I think. (I own the P2 currently.) Did you hear any hiss from the crown vs the Anthem?
@bobzealand5692
@bobzealand5692 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshpeters7392 the anthem is a great looking and sounding amp I tested some focal 1028b and revel speakers on it also I like to listen to my music and movies pretty loud and the anthem made the speakers clip and distort at higher volume for the money the crown is great it really makes the speakers come alive it drives my speakers at really loud volume without any distortion or clipping it sounds clear crisp and punchy as for the hiss it's not too common from what I understand but there is a faint hum coming from the speakers if I get about 2 feet away from the tweeter its most likely ground feedback that can be fixed by a 3 to 2 prong adapter or pulling the ground pin out of the chord or turning the gain knob on the amp down a few clicks either way I have the gain control knob all the way up and I can't hear anything but clean powerful sound from my listening position so I have yet to get the prong adapter as far as the amp itself it's really quiet doesn't make any noise
@joshpeters7392
@joshpeters7392 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobzealand5692 - thank you for the reply! I'm really going to have to check out the Crowns considering your remarks and Andrew's comments about them. I still have a hard time believing that a product costing a 10th of what I'm looking at would give similar/ better performance, but I'm totally down for it if it works. I have an Anthem P2 now along with some Def Tech 8080's, but by the end of the month, I think I'm going to pull the trigger and buy the Golden Ear Reference speakers. I love that they have a built in, 1800 watt powered sub with adjustable volume, they image incredibly well, the sound stage is AMAZING, and they have far more detail than my def techs. I'll get the crowns to test them against my P2 shortly after and will report back what I find. I hate giving up the look of the STR and preamp together.... and might still go that route if it's close sound wise, but if the crowns are better, there is no way I'm going to spend that much more for something that isn't as good. Thanks again and good luck there!
@christinearmington
@christinearmington 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshpeters7392 So how’d it go?
@HappyHighwayman
@HappyHighwayman 10 ай бұрын
I just got an XLS 1002 for $200 and it sounds identical to my Yamaha, but obviously more than twice the power. If you need power I don't think you can buy more reliable and feature rich amps for the money. If you bridge it it's SEVEN HUNDRED watts. Who needs that?
@mohammedisaa9952
@mohammedisaa9952 7 ай бұрын
I do..... 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 and .... so much, very much more.... 2 x XLs 3500 bridged for 2 x 24 inch subs that wake the dead up...... (many complaints from local cemeteries).... 😉👍🏻❤️💥
@rodrogers7553
@rodrogers7553 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Crown Straight Line Two preamp and a pair of Crown Power Line Three power amps that I bought new and am still thrilled with their performance. And they're about 35 to 40 years old. And they're still going strong and still making me very happy.
@jeffw.1854
@jeffw.1854 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the poor mans Mcintosh used to be Crowns nickname back in the day. Those amps are fetching a good brice on Ebay today.
@1OkiePackRat
@1OkiePackRat 4 жыл бұрын
I'm listening to you right now on a Crown XLS 1502. I TRULY believe that they have the ABSOLUTE best bang for the buck in the audio world. I've tried a BUNCH of amps in the sub $2K range (My budget for an office amp). You have to go all the way to the top of that range to find something with lower noise and better dynamic range, and WILL have less power to boot. Pair a decent tube preamp with a Crown XLS and you have a VERY respectable front end.
@mw12387
@mw12387 Жыл бұрын
Hi...this Crown or Emotiva Basx 2 as pwer amp for stereo music with Marantz sr 5011 as pre amp?..Ty
@jatinbisht6042
@jatinbisht6042 8 ай бұрын
Hey Andrew, please let me know your thoughts on Behringer KM750, Im bit confused should i go for crown xli or behringer Km series. Thanks
@MrRastaric
@MrRastaric 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 I own a crown, use it in my HiFi. Works incredible, you can also use the extra RCA IN,on the crown as a line out/sub out!
@NoMoreRadioMyths
@NoMoreRadioMyths 3 жыл бұрын
Good story. Class A, A/B reached design perfection about 30 years ago. All you need outside of a good design is a massive power supply. That's where the money goes, (and the weight) and you've got good sound.
@hypnoz7871
@hypnoz7871 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. But even class A/AB are now virtually obsolete now that class D just achieved transparency with Purifi modules. All while being light weight and power efficient. (they're still very expensive tough).
@petrolfever
@petrolfever 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your opinion on pairing one of these with the rp-8000fs
@robertgruber982
@robertgruber982 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any reason to choose the 1502 over the 1002 for the lower distortion numbers or is it for all practical purposes a non-issue? Don't need the extra power but for another $100, it's not a real stretch. I do hear a slight hiss with my 1002 if I put my ear up to the speaker or in quiet sections with vinyl (sort of combines with surface noise to be a little more pronounced) but when I flipped back to just my Rotel (which is now serving as a preamp), I get the same thing but softer. I assume it's always been there pre-1002 but the extra amplification makes it slightly more pronounced even with no signal coming from the pre-amp. Might try a Furman surge protector now that I'm seeing the world of rack mount stuff.
@skolvikings5263
@skolvikings5263 4 жыл бұрын
Where does it say it has lower distortion numbers, when I compare them, everything is the same, except for the power.
@rutgervannahuijs263
@rutgervannahuijs263 4 жыл бұрын
I just submitted...I saw a couple of your videos and for some reason you are the first guy I saw that isn't poisonous when it comes to your views on audio(phile). Love the content! Keep um coming :) Cheers from the Netherlands!,
@isaacsykes3
@isaacsykes3 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bruh, you just broke so many people's hearts, and I love it. The people to whom you are referring to, must not know your audiophile reviewer pedigree, or maybe they are taken aback at how young you look, to wrongly assume that you have not been at this a long time. Since discovering you at hometheaterreview.com, and taking a chance on some of your recommendations/reviews/and direct correspondence (thank again btw), o feel that I've become more knowledgeable in a hobby that I love, gotten to experience some great gear, and reconnected with familiar and discovered new music that I love. My Crown XLR 2502's; my Emotiva XPR 5; my Tekton design Double Impacts, are all rewarding purchases that you helped influence, and I can't thank you enough. Keep up the great work and get well soon!
@mvanalst2003
@mvanalst2003 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video immensely. I am an audio enthusiast as well as an automobile enthusiast. Your analogy was quite spot on. I will certainly be trying a Crown amp for a subwoofer application soon.
@teknikalvette
@teknikalvette 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, glad your feeling better! I agree wholeheartedly with this and own a crown xls 2002. Its amazing to say the least! I enjoy your vids👍 keep them coming please.....
@davidfarris8780
@davidfarris8780 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, I would like to know if you have a 20hz to 20khz power rating for the xls series.
@nickcovelli5056
@nickcovelli5056 3 ай бұрын
I have a crown XLI800 in my system powering a pair of PSB stratus gold i’s. The amp sounds phenomenal. Yes, I get a VERY faint hiss from the noise floor but it isn’t noticeable at all in use. I’ve set two other people up with a few. For the money, the drive core and xli series can’t be beat. The only other better value options out there would be a used Adcom. Had a few over the years that ran so long the led lights went out and they are true performers too. Either way, great products.
@manlioyllades
@manlioyllades 4 жыл бұрын
I'm using a Crown XLS 1002 to replace my broken McIntosh 2105. All I can tell is I'm happy with the sound and if my Macintosh gets fixed I will be able to compare them. I can foretell there won't be so much difference
@johnsmith-qz4bv
@johnsmith-qz4bv 4 жыл бұрын
great video i also like crown amps i go with what i can afford lol..hope you had a great christmas holliday.....hope your are feeling better soon
@ledze973
@ledze973 4 жыл бұрын
I studied electronics and the funtion of an ampliefier is to amplify the signal that came from a pream, the only thing that afeccted is the load of the speakers. So if the amp sound full or thin its has to be how well manage the load.
@b.a.2335
@b.a.2335 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you back! I'm wondering if you could do a short next time of your opinion on amps and what their sole purpose really is. I recall many many years ago reading a review on a Balanced Audio Technology amp and the reviewer best described it as " Pure Gain". After all isn't that what all power amps are meant to do?
@blathum9
@blathum9 4 жыл бұрын
I love your language we need many more people like you in the HIFI World it really is cutting through the C.R.A.P so refreshing thank you and thank you again Andrew. I will probably buy a crown now. What Pre-amp????
@cuttinchops
@cuttinchops 4 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of old crown D-75's in mono running some JBL 4301'S.... amazing for used/cheap! I've always loved crown and qsc amps. Best bang for the buck hands down!
@LosEblos
@LosEblos 2 жыл бұрын
I started being curious about Class D some months ago. Didn't know, which one to buy. I tended to ICEPower, but didn't like to assemble. Last week, I found your Videos about Crown XLS. Today two 1502 arrived, just plugged them into my Denon 4500h to fire up my pair of GR Research pimped Klipsch RP-8000f, RP-600c and two diy 10" Subs. Love from first moment on! Thanks Andrew!
@alford35
@alford35 4 жыл бұрын
I’m currently in love with my new MC2 and Hypex amps. Can’t place exactly what it is that I’m liking more so than other offerings but really like both.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 4 жыл бұрын
That's all that matters. Thanks for watching!
@TheDecguy
@TheDecguy 4 жыл бұрын
All this takes me back to the days I was doing sound. Stacks of Crown MacroTechs and Crest amps. These were all touring rated amps, Class AB, and weighed more than one MAN could carry. I miss those days. I wish that the circuits in my house were rated enough to plug some of these monsters in. In those days iron was what it was all about.
@markthambas2713
@markthambas2713 4 жыл бұрын
I am also interested in pro amplifiers for audio systems in my home. Have you ever tried other brands, such as Ecler, Qsc, Toa or others. Is there anything better than crown? My speaker is B&W matrix 801 s3 who need big amp
@luisperez-fs2gz
@luisperez-fs2gz 4 жыл бұрын
Last Sunday I purchased my XLS1002 to give it a try. I paired it with my Moon P-3 pre-amplifier and I was amazed, and still am, about what this combination offers. I will enjoy this amp for a long time.I will consider getting a second XLS1002 and bridge them. This has to be the best kept secret in the audio industry.
@bobsmoot8454
@bobsmoot8454 2 жыл бұрын
Well put, it’s engineering and a willingness to listen to each creation because the choice of parts can change the sound. It’s amazing that the name has just power when it should be the performance. I really liked your analogy of the Ford GT using the 5.4 motor vs V12s or high strung 6 bangers, like the AC/Shelby 427 S/C stomped the competition and is now recognized as one of the all time greatest sports cars ever made
@joaomontespalma3946
@joaomontespalma3946 4 жыл бұрын
So simple and so true. Thank you for your clarity of thoughts and words.
@artcoffeejeff
@artcoffeejeff 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew, this was absolutely my favorite video from you! Superbly well done!
@stefanborghys
@stefanborghys 4 жыл бұрын
your honesty is fantastic, much appreciated!
@mechdude1
@mechdude1 4 жыл бұрын
Great VID !.....I really love your analogy....it explains the point you are trying to make.... Exceptionally well 😊👍
@joonas4427
@joonas4427 3 жыл бұрын
You still recommend these Amps? I have a marantz sr6013 av reciever and im thinking to going separate AMP to My main left and right. You think a crown xls 1502 would sound better than My marantz sr6013?
@colossusrageblack
@colossusrageblack 3 жыл бұрын
If you get two Crown amps and run them in mono-block using your Marantz as a preamp, I don't know if it will sound "better", but whatever your driving will definitely have more oomph behind it.
@MrHustla1992
@MrHustla1992 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see some Audiophile that (tries) keeps beeing objective (as good as he can) and don't fall just for Brands. That's really not easy. Awesome Video Andrew👌
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@CaptainCrunch823
@CaptainCrunch823 4 жыл бұрын
I use Crown XLS 2502 amps in two different KEF LS50 2 channel systems in my home and love the pairing, but I disagree with you on the “magic” comment. There are some audio products that do offer something highly unique or “magical” that are hard to find in other products. I think I understand your point though and appreciate your reviews. Thumbs up by the way😊
@MrJamesonStyles
@MrJamesonStyles 4 жыл бұрын
I run a JBL Urei 6260 for my stereo mains, and I LOVE it. It's just a big ol lump of PA amp and it's just fine for hi-fi.
@russmaleartist
@russmaleartist 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you -- the very last statement sums up everything for me . . . the only person that hast to like your system is you! This is the bottom line because considering the price tag and so much more . . . if you can't afford $52,000 monoblock amps, but you want the best YOUR money can afford . . . then why fester with envy and be disgruntled with what you have IF you enjoy it. No one else has to listen to it. The term AUDIOPHILE is a snobbish term . . . but if someone labels themselves as one -- why should their taste, their budget, their opinions upstage or dominate yours? It comes down to how you think, how you are manipulated by the opinions of others, and how much you do your own research and come to your OWN opinions. Now, if many people come to the same conclusion and can back it with evidence . . . you are going to be hard pressed swaying such individuals to all immediately come over to your side just to appease you. People don't like REALISM and TRUTH getting in the way of their infallible opinions . . . do they? By the way, I own two Crown 1502's, which replaced B&K Monoblocks . . . and I like them a lot -- might be getting two more and changing my speakers to primarily active crossovers. But, regardless, to each his own.
@rodrogers7553
@rodrogers7553 3 жыл бұрын
I have been running the same Crown Amps exclusively for the past 40 years. The Crown Straight Line 2 pre amp and twin Crown Power Line 3 power amps and have never had one iota of a problem with them. They sound great going into my four ESS AMT1a loudspeakers. No complaints!! They come highly recommended by me. I must say though that I am curious about the new XLS Drive Cores.
@NishathKhan
@NishathKhan 3 жыл бұрын
I came to your channel while hunting for reviews of the crown amp have since reviewed and purchased the 2502's. They are not perfect but are amazing value for the money.
@TomOhle1
@TomOhle1 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing review. I accidentally ran across your site looking for reviews on davone speakers. May I ask what you are using to feed your crown amp? Im looking for thing really nice but price conscious to feed a crown amp feeding a pair of davone studio. Thanks :)
@BoondockSaint0310
@BoondockSaint0310 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Ohle i think he is using a marantz 150x whatever avr as processor for his system
@jonmason1955
@jonmason1955 4 жыл бұрын
This was an eye opener, Andrew! What a great and relevant comparison. You vlog well, your content and format differs from the others. In a way, you're pioneering a different path. Kicked out of Frozen? I wouldn't go anywhere near the ride. That whole franchise irritates me to no end.
@xray111xxx
@xray111xxx 4 жыл бұрын
Then I am too. I use a Crown XLS-1002 with Anthem AVM-30 and Soundcraft Mixer with my other sources analog and digital and even as my monitoring system with my Elac 6.2 and my Shure SM7B mic. My audio and soon podcast system is a mixture and the Crown just works. Could care less what others think. Hope you feel better soon! Happy New Year Andrew. By the way I got that $3000.00 AVM-30 for $175.00 and that is value!
@AndyBHome
@AndyBHome 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this follow-up video to the original Crown amp video. That video piqued my curiosity and I've been thinking about Crown amps ever since. I'm still bewildered by the variety of models they offer, but knowing it's the Drivecore technology that you like so well makes the whole subject a lot clearer.
@pennysowers8536
@pennysowers8536 4 жыл бұрын
Listening through a pair of JBL Studio 530s powered by a Crown XLS 1502. It's like the Maxell blown away of desk tops. I think you would like it.
@bal20
@bal20 4 жыл бұрын
This is a really insightfull discussion. Ive been using a crest audio ca6 professional power amp for a couple of years to power my lounge system, and its done a good job but the thing is massive and back breaking. Replacing with a 1502 now and adding a sub to be powered by a 1002 in bridge mode. Going to save on electricity and back strain for sure. Really excited to hear the amps when they come
@zefrog7482
@zefrog7482 Жыл бұрын
The Crown XLS is awesome. I recently trialled a Technics SU G700 m2, really nice looking thing, but wasn't really able to better the Crown, especially with the sheer amount of power for music with large dynamic swings. The Technics got returned, Crown is staying, and after trying a few other amps I've come to the conclusion it's staying permanently from here on out.
@gage4375
@gage4375 3 ай бұрын
👏👏👏😎
@rajugsw
@rajugsw 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Andrew. Don’t knock down cheap Crown Amps unless you’ve actually tried them in your rig. I have an immediately noticed a difference over the sound quality of my AVR’s built-in amps. Where I disagree is that there’s no “magic” or “Synergy” when it comes to Amp/Speaker Combo’s. I’m a big proponent of Class D amplification and when done correctly, sounds as good if not better that Class A/B or dare I say, Class A. I’d rented a Crown XLII amp from Guitar Center to test my 5.1 channel “hacked” True Balanced outputs while awaiting the arrival of my PS Audio M700/SGCD. The Crown amp was good but I immediately noticed a quieter noise floor (less hiss/tiny hum cause by my source at the time). Sound quality without going into Audiophile adjectives was noticeably better on the PS Audio vs The Crown. Keep up the great work. You ain’t “Stupid” but people who say you, are themselves “Stupid”. Cheers
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest put the shoe on the other foot... If you buy a $5k+ tube amp or a $10k+ class A or AB hybrid.. Then some buy comes along and tells you the $650 Class D pro audio XLS 2502 can power any speaker they have up to $100k Wilson's and do it well and cleanly. Something that has a balanced sound signature with clean power and not harsh high end. They feel ripped off and inadequate thus their default response is to bark back. It's human emotion!
@humanitech
@humanitech 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew just got my xls1502 today - based on you and Zeos and your approaches and reviews. I just took the chance as it was discounted to £305 on Amazon so worth a try. Wow I'm shocked, surprised and ultimately very happy - as it's just an amazing and special amp (magical even..pun intended lol)...so quiet, musical, spacial and controlled. I don't want to bash all the other hi-fi producers - as I know many make great sounding gear that I simply can't afford. But having listened to many sub £1500 power amps, although not the elusive hypex ncore products this xls is in its own league. So thanks and keep doing what your doing
@mareli82
@mareli82 4 жыл бұрын
yea I did the same, I got a 1002 secondhand new in box at a super good price, don't think il ever regret that, if Zeos can use it on his ohm's and like it must be good.
@BrianRiotHobbies
@BrianRiotHobbies 4 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video and has given me the answer to my DIY speaker troubles. I dont have the money to buy the multi thousand dollar "magic" amplifiers and this down to earth review was one of the most helpful I have seen. So big thanks and keep up the great work!
@aerogrape
@aerogrape 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Crown XLS 2500 and it's the best amp I've ever used.
@ericnortan9012
@ericnortan9012 Жыл бұрын
I have a Crown XLI2500. Love it. Simple AB with a gain adjustment and a couple signal and fault lights. Rated at 500 wpc at 8 ohms, I have seen another amp from this series tested and it surpassed Crowns ratings. Signal to noise on paper don't look great, but I get a clean neutral sound all the way up the volume. No audible noise and I can power any speaker I throw at it. With this amp I think I have got as much as I can sonically, so I am considering a new set of monoblocs. Price is a factor, but I am willing to spend a couple grand if it is worth it. Diminishing returns and all. I am looking at the Emotiva XPA DR1s or the HC1s. Really like the extra power in the DR1s. Also, I have a shot at a nice set of PS Audio Delta 250s, which I'm sure are splendid. Are any of those really going to change things? I have multiple speakers that I like to switch up, some are better than others, but I am talking about pairing them with quality speakers. I was also considering drive cores or even another XLI. I really like the idea of mono blocs. Your videos are great. I have always liked Crown, great amps from what I know. The XLI, for a "low end" amp it is great.
@stealthhtm23
@stealthhtm23 Жыл бұрын
is it noisy while running? can you hear the fan running? want to know if you can hear it running while watching a movie.
@ericnortan9012
@ericnortan9012 Жыл бұрын
@@stealthhtm23 Never. It doesn't run hot unless you really push it so the fans rarely come on, if they do you can't hear them. Mine is a fairly big amp so it doesn't work very hard. Can't speak for the smaller amps in the series.
@stealthhtm23
@stealthhtm23 Жыл бұрын
@@ericnortan9012 good to hear! (or not hear lol)
@ericnortan9012
@ericnortan9012 Жыл бұрын
@@stealthhtm23 I can't really find any flaws for the price. Really clean dedicated 2CH sound but also perfect for a surround system, no need to blow thousands on amps that are primarily for movies/tv. Added bonus, being a pro amp it's built like a tank. It's a peice of equipment that will last forever in a home system. They are made to run and run.
@stealthhtm23
@stealthhtm23 Жыл бұрын
@@ericnortan9012 right on! it’s for my home theater/listening room. I’m looking to pair it with the Pioneer Elite LX505 receiver, and power my Polk Audio RTi A9’s with the Crown. they are starving for power!! the other 5 speakers can run off the receiver for now.
@cordel666giglesworth6
@cordel666giglesworth6 8 ай бұрын
I use a crown xls 1002 to power my dads old la Scalas that i got from my dad when he passed away with a adcom pre-amplifier holy moly to me they sound down right good nice highs very good lows dont need much to drive them
@clarkstone-bear7742
@clarkstone-bear7742 3 жыл бұрын
Wow great video man. When I was younger my dad and uncle had a band. I remember Marshall amps and peavey speakers. And of course crown amps. Iv had, well still have 70s jvc amp, recever exseta. I like marantz, rotel, and emotiva. Hell I can't afford it but I like mcintosh. I like old school stuff as well as new. I have a set of thiel 1.6 iv been injoying for yrs. So iv been thinking about trying out the crown xls with them. Now that I'm done rambling. Great video man, looks and brand names can be deceiving.
@briancoffelt3240
@briancoffelt3240 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew, spot on video!! I have been curious about Crown Amps since Zeos reviewed one and he even talked it up. I am in a few different HIFI forums and when ever Crown Amps are mentioned, it is like you say, there is a group of folks that go "office space" on it.. My next Amp purchase will most likely be a Crown..
@richardrigg9916
@richardrigg9916 5 ай бұрын
Hey Andrew. Is it normal for the XLS 1502 to need a warm up time? Usually it sounds a bit flat when you first turn it on... I've read that you should never turn it off too. Thoughts?
@stacksmasher
@stacksmasher 5 ай бұрын
Yes. it sounds better warm. No you do not need to leave it on all the time.
@RingZero
@RingZero Ай бұрын
Thats with any electronics and not just amps. 5-10mins in and you should be good. I power ON/OFF my XLS2500 with a DIY 12v trigger that installed years ago and works great with my Emotiva DAC/Pre-amp.
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