Thanks so much PSAC! I really appreciate the tip!

Yessir!! Been a while… keeps me humble.

That's just it Ed! Plus, it must cost a ton to make devices like this that aren't mass produced...

Jam owner-the Jam doesn't even come close to working with real faders for expression automation. Extremely short-throw, too great a jump between CC values for this kind of automation. It's the difference between a toy and a tool. Jam prices are also going up, it's not a currently sold nor warrantied product. It's the antithesis of a serious tool to build a professional workflow around in 2022. What happens if it breaks? You're buggered without a drop-in replacement for their proprietary touch strips and other gubbins. Problem with the FVDE? Stick a new off-the-shelf fader in.

It'll be back! Don't worry ;)

Ummm Yeah. That's why it says Paid Promotion at the beginning, unlike a lot of other channels!

It would add a whole other level wouldn't it!

@@jefgibbons hopefully they do am upgraded version in the future.

@@chrisstaubyn774 Why though? It's meant for expression input. For mixing, there's plenty of nice controllers on the market from SSL to Avid to perhaps, at a push, Softube, if you can live with being limited in terms of plugins, which otherwise have a poor software UX without the controller, so annoying to use on a laptop when away from the studio if you need to open up any project files.

@@HammyHavoc I'm afraid I have to disagree with your stance. Motors do not affect expression. Motorized faders are the solution to faders that do not accurately reflect their controlled value.

@@chrisstaubyn774 The resistance of motorized versus non-motorized fader components is different, i.e. non-linear versus logarithmic, which is why on lesser controllers you end up with dead zones either end of the fader, or can't get each and every CC value. The resistance taper is usually meant for mixing, and not MIDI expression. Motorized faders *always* have more resistance and will feel wholly different to use-that is a fact. Different strokes for different folks. If you find that motorized is appropriate for your needs, go nuts, meanwhile this product serves a niche need very well. The JL Cooper Fader Master Pro isn't motorized either, and that's an excellent product for its type too. Not meant for mixing. The FVDE is cheaper than the Fader Master, and takes up much less space, and gives you as many faders as you have fingers to operate whilst playing keys.

Once you've done this kind of automation with faders, you'll laugh at the idea of what you've suggested-it's more performance than programming. It's a whole other perspective on what automation can be. Unless you can turn multiple knobs whilst playing keys, no, only long-throw faders are going to work for you. Efficiency and muscle memory is equally valuable. $380 is cheap if this is what you do-especially for this level of build quality, and this level of resolution. Sure, there's cheaper options on the market, but you get fader dead zones at the top and bottom, inconsistent feel and response between faders, and frequently the resistance is completely inappropriate for expression automation.

@@HammyHavoc I'm a hobbyist and don't do orchestral templates or scoring for a living okay. For me this is not worth it but teach their own you would have to make money off of your compositions for this to even be in question. I didn't know us obvious we're not allowed to comment on this page..

@@wesleyforman8391 You're not the target market. Look at what software the company makes, stuff for composers. It's a niche tool.

@@HammyHavoc audio imperia are nks compatible and work well with any native instruments I can do orchestral stuff with any of those libraries who are you to say I am at the target audience have fun with your $380 MIDI controller let me hear some of your compositions and work then you can talk and be so critical of others and say they are not at Target market as if you are so special

@@wesleyforman8391 I wasn't rude to you whatsoever. You made it abundantly clear you aren't the target market. Total attitude problem.

You do realize the plastics in the Touch OSC and other controllers are made from fossil fuels right?

@@channeloram you do realize that TouchOSC is a virtual touch screen software with no hardware component, right ? 😅

@@traveler263 moot point, Touch OSC, Lemur, whatever still requires devices to work which are made from plastics. Also, wood being used in today's manufacturing is sustainable and captures carbon from the air and keeps it out of the atmosphere for its life, so using it is actually not as bad as using plastics

​@@koreanfriedchildren but it has plastics as well :) anyways ... if you love the product then go pay the price of a full DAW for 4 faders

Muscle memory with touch screens is very poor by comparison. That's something that plenty of folks who churn gear are missing out on-developing muscle memory and flying along.