Audio Quantize in Bitwig 5.1

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Polarity Music

Polarity Music

8 ай бұрын

Hey, today we're diving into ‪@bitwig‬ 5.1b2 and its new audio features using a classic drum loop as an example. The goal? To show you how to manipulate, adjust, and perfect your audio clips in Bitwig.
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@OdoSendaidokai
@OdoSendaidokai 8 ай бұрын
Nice overview. Thanks! Maybe the dog ate the feature request list seven years ago and they had to channel it back from the beyond of the dog paradise. That can take quite some time :) But anyway makes me optimistic that we may see some more improvements of already existing features to make producing eve more easy. 🚀
@Emily_M81
@Emily_M81 8 ай бұрын
Bitwig 5's theme is "sorry, we're finally adding things you've wanted for years" lol lol I'll cry with you. Not having something as basic as normalization blew me away XD
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
I wanted this since 1.0, this is how patient I am 🔥
@Italliving
@Italliving 8 ай бұрын
Infinite Patience = Immediate Result 🤔😉@@PolarityMusic
@jonirischx8925
@jonirischx8925 8 ай бұрын
@@PolarityMusic I instinctively went to complain about lack of normalization on their beta trailer the moment it dropped, and was SO GLAD to have been wrong, and edit my salty comment to be grateful instead! Praise be! After they implement midi comping for me this is a complete DAW. I hear people's complaints about the piano roll, and sympathize, but since I play most things in, comping with midi is more important to me than midi editing workflow. Here's to hoping not another 10 years of waiting for that 🍷! Things are looking good tho...
@sternenherz
@sternenherz 8 ай бұрын
@@PolarityMusic haha that's true patience! :D
@discardedsounds
@discardedsounds 6 ай бұрын
0:36 default stretch mode 1:32 detail editor 2:14 onset (transient) detection and intensity 3:39 set clip start 4:41 slice stretch mode 5:51 remove the padding (finding bpm) 7:22 once found project tempo can change and loop will remain in one bar 7:50 tail modes 8:38 ping pong 8:52 granular 9:21 pitch change 11:47 audio quantize 14:10 normalize 15:33 audio event normalization (slice in place)
@KozmykJ
@KozmykJ 8 ай бұрын
Yup A Threshold is a needed addition to that Transient Detection feature.
@ImaplanetJupiteeeerr
@ImaplanetJupiteeeerr 6 ай бұрын
Yes so much yes! 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
@Trickey2413
@Trickey2413 8 ай бұрын
I feel the same way about normalization in bitwig. That feature alone makes this a fantastic update.
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
aye!
@pnutbuttajellee1394
@pnutbuttajellee1394 8 ай бұрын
Here's hoping that this audio quantizing is leading to better slicing or stretching tools and integrated into the sampler. We all need to keep bugging them to get up to par with where Ableton is. So far I am loving what they are doing.
@0e0
@0e0 8 ай бұрын
i would also like better slicing in the sampler
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
Slicing in the sampler would be dope.
@EnervatedSociety
@EnervatedSociety 8 ай бұрын
Yes, this.
@billB101
@billB101 8 ай бұрын
You can get some nice gritty oldskool loop effects with elastic pro and a low formant setting.
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
I need to use the audio features more, i havent touched them in years :D
@chris5375
@chris5375 8 ай бұрын
@@PolarityMusicjust a good idea 😉
@dna598
@dna598 8 ай бұрын
Have you ever used New sonic arts Vice? It s the purest slicer since Recycle. It IS Recycle in a plug in. Sounds better than beats/slice mode (has stretch/fade), drag to midi, better detection, loop braces within slices, easy editing, filters/fx/tuning/envelopes per slice. I don't eff around anymore. If I need to slice a funky break I just break that out.
@YusefFajuri
@YusefFajuri 8 ай бұрын
Could be useful to have a tempo knob and a jogwheel to adjust the start position of audio event/clip and its tempo like dj softwares have. In a live performance context i would like to just drop audio and have an automatic real time analysis so i can have all the metadata for key tempo and even frequency colorized spectrum, like dj softwares have. Then i dont have to make all of those more technical editing moves when performing. For now i have to previously prepare this audio events as clips. But i really want to be able to as an example; make lyrics and vocals with AI on the fly and throw it into the mix, without any problems. Great video!❤
@vladartiomav2473
@vladartiomav2473 8 ай бұрын
Audio quantization! Yes! Was waiting this feature for years! Finally it’s here
@MartinDoudoroffLLC
@MartinDoudoroffLLC 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the overview!
@0e0
@0e0 8 ай бұрын
i feel there are some Reaper handling of audio that would be incredible within Bitwig...and then i would never open reaper again if i could do all that stuff in Bitwig
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
i hope you dont have to wait 9 years for that 🤣
@Tikanna
@Tikanna 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! great video.. was just working with some samples to make it the right bpm. 🙏🏻
@michail_777
@michail_777 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. A very necessary video for me.
@jumpstar9000
@jumpstar9000 8 ай бұрын
Great video man. It's really good to go over this stuff again occasionally even without the new stuff. The set clip start and then trim the front end is a good idea, and I was doing it a different way. It's really looking pretty good now.
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
yep, its on a good way
@deareeMusic
@deareeMusic 8 ай бұрын
I love all this, need to be able to edit stretch time for groups like multi tracked drums and such, that is still a brutal process in bitwig.
@vitaliivostrykov5173
@vitaliivostrykov5173 7 ай бұрын
the quantize window should be moveable for sure!
@Jimantronic
@Jimantronic 8 ай бұрын
Slice in place and normalize looks super useful! That would save lots of individual gain edits when working with vocals or something like bass guitar I think. I don't understand the new onset threshold setting though. It seems weird that it's a selector for them horizontally in the timeline, I would have thought that it worked vertically, so you can choose the minimum signal threshold at which it considers it to be a valid onset, like with a peak limiter. Can you click and drag the percentage figure and move it in that axis?
@sternenherz
@sternenherz 8 ай бұрын
A "normalize" shortcut is a dream come true, and it's awesome to hear from Bitwig, that they'll also let us directly "normalize" Clips in the launcher in the future
@iliravdyli4109
@iliravdyli4109 8 ай бұрын
Jetz braucht nur noch der Sampler diese Features. Warping und Slicing im Sampler ist so wichtig.
@TheKillander
@TheKillander 7 ай бұрын
I use elastique pro on pretty much everything. I especially like it for vocals if you need to pitch them up or down for the key, but want the voice to still sound close to original sound.
@buckycore
@buckycore 7 ай бұрын
Man, this Audio Quantizing sounds so clean and amazing. studio one's sucks. It has so mamy artifacts (mostly because it only has a limited amount of stretch/pitch modes and they all sound not good)
@realtonaldrum
@realtonaldrum 8 ай бұрын
Ich warte ja immernoch auf Track variierende Tempo Modulationen :D
@sebbosebbo9794
@sebbosebbo9794 8 ай бұрын
great explained....thx... f.e.the stretchmarkers is not a onsetmarker as in live and not always there..nice to see how its works in Bitwig...stable...thx... P.S. The live handling and detecting of the first onset is maybe a dev. problem for the future, hope they can tackle that... as Live user it feels a little bit wonky...
@duncanmaclennan9624
@duncanmaclennan9624 8 ай бұрын
Set Clip Start 👏👏👏 Normalize 👏👏👏
@sanjaux
@sanjaux 8 ай бұрын
I just want to be able to drag an audio file in and not have it overwrite everything after it, along with keeping it's chopped position in tact which is what FL Studio does. It's useful for non destructively auditioning different files in built up chop phrases and I find myself having to open FL just for using audio clips now
@sternenherz
@sternenherz 8 ай бұрын
100%. Non destructive audio and midi overlap is something i was used to have in Cubase. Never realized how awesome it is until i came over to Ableton/Bitwig. Cubases combination of non-destructive audio/midi-event-dragging with overlap AND a glue tool (!) is insanely powerful. Sadly, this feature doesn't seem to be highly requested / Bitwig would need to have a lot of requests for that in order to integrate it. I'm happy they are giving their best to integrate basic features like normalize, audio quantization, and a better mixer now, though!
@srosted
@srosted 8 ай бұрын
Normalize!!! Finally Now my only remaining request is for support for working with old sample packs that has "stereo samples" split into dual mono samples
@aerrowqueing
@aerrowqueing 8 ай бұрын
When I saw you using normalise, I was like "wait, that did exist, why did I never see this" So that's a new feature as well. I really think Bitwig needs to still focus on the basics, version 5 was already good, 5.1 is a great update. What I need now is more intutive automation, I think it's always a struggle to get good curves and it's just annoying. I know you can use modulators and I often do, but there are som things an lfo or a segments just won't do as precisely as automation.
@hip_hopwar8844
@hip_hopwar8844 8 ай бұрын
🔥✨🎉
@vergaerd
@vergaerd 8 ай бұрын
As per the last part of the video: What do you guys do when you load a sample that is just filled with onsets? Do you do the work and just delete all the ones you don't need? I wholeheartedly agree with Polarities suggested changes. Would it be possible to be able to load an audio clip, choose the onsets manually and then choose the stretch mode afterwards? Unless I've been doing it wrong, -which is likely tbh, this doesn't seem possible atm. These video's make it harder and harder to refrain from switching to the beta version. I'm just worried my current projects will bork.
@TheWilliamSnfrd
@TheWilliamSnfrd 8 ай бұрын
i always just save a new version of the project labeled beta in some way so I have my old project to go back to. I haven't had many major issues using betas before. some small bugs and weird behaviors but pretty fun to mess with until the full version drops
@dubmaverick69
@dubmaverick69 8 ай бұрын
It would be good if some big company invests in Bitwig, they can hire more people and take this DAW to the next level, its begging for it, kind of like what Yamaha did with Cubase back in the day and at this point we need not native hardware for Bitwig, that is just going to pen DAW up to so many people.
@arnulfschnitzler4695
@arnulfschnitzler4695 8 ай бұрын
Hallo Polarity, ich möchte schon lange von Windows auf Linux umsteigen. Einzig Ableton Live hat mich davon abgehalten. Würdest du sagen das es Bitwig schon mit Ableton Live aufnehmen kann? Bzw was sind die Vor und Nachteile? Ich wäre bereit es zu lernen.
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
Also wenn du mich fragst, klares ja. Aber ich bin nicht du :D Am besten trial/demo antesten und selber probieren!
@Tiger1016.
@Tiger1016. 6 ай бұрын
Curious if it possible to set Bitwig up to automatically quantize a track rather than have to manually go through the steps post recording. The workflow I am dreaming of centers around quickly sketching out ideas for a song in a somewhat live looping like recording session, not in a performance kind of sense but moving quickly to get the unrehearsed ideas down while the inspiration is flowing and not getting bogged down with editing a part to make it workable enough for a first pass before moving onto the next part. This would involve working in the Clip Launcher view, recording a few takes (e.g. an acoustic guitar part), [HOPING] these takes can be auto quantized to correct for timing issues, which might circumvent the need to lose momentum by doing some comping before moving onto the next part or it could make the comping process quicker by not needing to manually time quantize each take before then comping. I want to upgrade from 8 track to Studio, but I'm content enough with sticking with Cubase until I can achieve this workflow.
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 6 ай бұрын
you can also just right click an audio clip (or use key command) and say "quantize" without the popup. and it does all that for you.
@0e0
@0e0 8 ай бұрын
I use RAW as my default (and i work with loads of breaks)
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
yea i kinda like it to listen to audio unprocessed first
@pbrninja19
@pbrninja19 8 ай бұрын
You Make Sure Everything Remains Raw
@leoshell8330
@leoshell8330 6 ай бұрын
haha I will be cry too
@Artek604
@Artek604 8 ай бұрын
I wish they merged "Stretch" and "Onsets" modes of the editor into one - let's add, remove and edit Onsets on top; and add, remove and edit Stretch Markers on the bottom. Also, while adjustong the sensitivity for quantizing audio Bitwig should show Stretch Markers, instead of Onsets. Lastly, I'm not really sure why they've split normal Quantize and Audio Quantize? That requires separate shortcuts. I understand the former is for MIDI and audio events, the latter for audio itself. But I'd rather it was one Quantize with a toggle switching between events & audio quantize.
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
I guess with the quantization, its because you can quantize "audio events" with the note quantizer and the "audio event" itself with the audio quantizer. anyway the right click menu gets pretty crowded :D
@Artek604
@Artek604 8 ай бұрын
@@PolarityMusic Yeah. If it goes like that further they'll have to start adding sub-menus, like FL :D Btw, still no reverse in the right-click menu. That's ridiculous. I never use the tiles on top.
@johnmiller19925
@johnmiller19925 8 ай бұрын
What’s left for me for this editor to become not just awesome, but super awesome, is the ability to add the onset markers by hand (as is possible in Live).
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
but you can? remove/add onsets by double clicking
@johnmiller19925
@johnmiller19925 8 ай бұрын
@@PolarityMusic oh. My bad. I'm still new.😄 Thanks!
@pickyyeeter
@pickyyeeter 8 ай бұрын
Audio quantization‽ Normalization‽ Maybe they'll go really crazy with the next update and add a tuner.
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 8 ай бұрын
there is a tune module.
@pickyyeeter
@pickyyeeter 8 ай бұрын
@@kraenk12 I haven't been able to find it. How do I access it?
@seswn0
@seswn0 8 ай бұрын
@@kraenk12 i don’t think there is…
@thepauloapo
@thepauloapo 8 ай бұрын
threw me off that this video did not start with "hi folks"
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
forgot it :(
@DanielIvan707
@DanielIvan707 7 ай бұрын
They are like a decade too late. Who’s running the show over there?
@JC20XX
@JC20XX 6 ай бұрын
They're a decade ahead in some ways too
@chris5375
@chris5375 8 ай бұрын
Bitwig muß in den Audio und Warping Funktionen, echt nachlegen das geht in Ableton 11 Suite einfach geschmeidiger, ich warte daher noch mit einem Umstieg👍🏻😳
@PolarityMusic
@PolarityMusic 8 ай бұрын
was genau fehlt dir denn?
@chris5375
@chris5375 8 ай бұрын
Wie du im Video bereits gezeigt hast, der erste Takt des Samples ist nicht bei Null in der Editor und Arranger Ansicht, das kann man aber schnell in der Beta fixen, dann natürlich slice to sample, wie üblich in Ableton in Simpler und Sampler, und einen Transient Shaper im Sample Editor usw…., wobei aber die modularen Möglichkeiten, die Presets und der Content Allgemein in Bitwig besser sind, auch der Sampler gefällt mir besser……
@chris5375
@chris5375 8 ай бұрын
Ich bounce oft abgefahrene Sachen in Bitwig um Sie dann in Ableton oder Cubase zu importieren….., Dinge die so in anderen DAWˋs nicht gehen, das sollte nicht unerwähnt bleiben…..
@sternenherz
@sternenherz 8 ай бұрын
@6:10 new feature request unlocked: automatic BPM detection :D
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