The sound of opening the lid of that shaker was at high Audiophile levels!
@Audioloon4 жыл бұрын
Hello Adrian, Jay, and Phillip. Thanks for taking time to inform of the excellence of Hegel Integrated amps. I've been fortunate enough to have access to long term listening of an audio system consisting of Hegel 390, Jay's Audio CDT and DAC, and Sonor Audio Claro 6.2 speakers. All the rave reviews of the Hegel products are well deserved and I never thought I would find another integrated that would make me consider parting with my tried and true Naim Nait 5i. Today I got another listen with the Hegel but this time with a different set of speakers (a set of DIY Usher speakers). System still sounded musical but not to the same level of musicality and holographic imaging as with the Sonor speakers. Somehow the Hegel when paired with the Sonor speakers really becomes some kind of magical music paring. Based on what I think I am understanding from yours and other reviews, the Hegel can absolutely unleash the best performance of certain brands/models of speakers. Hope you guys can someday get to listen to this combination and I think it would be a good thing to list specific speaker and Hegel pairings that audio and music lunatics can set their ears to.
@DamionG19874 жыл бұрын
Jay's hair is on point! looking sharp
@zoltangyorgytoth93304 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys!! First of all I really like the way of your videos and how you talk about the equipments. I am also a true Hegel lover and personally I have had an H80 amp and loved it. Then I wanted to go up in their portfolio and get a H160 or even a H360! Then suddenly I find a Canadian amplifier on a good price (used) and bought it. It's an Anthem STR integrated amplifier and sound amazing! It doesn't sound the same way like Hegel but in this price points also a matter a personal taste. I am sure all og you know this brand very well. I would just suggest you to have a listen on it it you have a chance and ig you really liked to make a comparison video with a same priced amps. I don't know how interesting is an Anthem room correction system in a stereo amp but I think It's worth to take a look at! Thanks for your thoughts! Wish you a happy new year and good sounding gears! Best regards, Zoltan
@rickcarlson59163 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another extremely informative video.
@rmzidann2 жыл бұрын
I am glad you showed the thumbnail picture of the inside… man, that look like a mess of disorganized layout of parts and wires… what’s the warranty on this piece?
@sickkids6664 жыл бұрын
Adrian and team, I absolutely loved this open discussion. Please do make more videos..would love to see you guys discussing Wilson Audio speakers..you personal observations..cheers.
@AudioExcellenceCanada4 жыл бұрын
Wilson will be discussed - and thank you for your appreciation. We will endeavour to continue our excellence...
@DBravo29er4 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Hegel vs Pass Labs vs Benchmark AHB2?
@paulomontero124 жыл бұрын
Guy on the left really enjoys his coffee!
@EdBenji3 ай бұрын
& spring rolls!!
@peteralmo4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you talk about Musical Fidelity, specifically the M8xi integrated.
@Ivy13276 Жыл бұрын
Love Hegel
@adelinomorte74213 жыл бұрын
If we just discuss the amplifier, we can have very, very good amplifiers in tubes as well as SS, the only difference is price, supplied energy and heat dissipation. But besides the amplifiers there is a lot more to consider from the sound origin to my ears and also very important from ears to my brain, including my personal preference in music or just sound. Sound amplification from recorded or directly from the sound source like nature, musical band, orchestra symphonic or otherwise, just voice or singing, Those sounds has to be captured, with the right micro and placed properly according to the sound source and where we are listening it (room acoustics). In one word it is a complete science. The amplifier can be anyone as well as all the amplification channel, as said before the quality of sound can be as good in TUBES or SOLID STATE .
@IliyaOsnovikov4 жыл бұрын
Speaking about high damping factor. Do you guys realize that in order not to loose all that damping you would need to use very (and I mean VERY) low resistance cables? Let's say you have an amp with a damping factor 2000 for 8 Ohms load. It means that output impedance of that amp is 8 / 2000 = 0.004 Ohms. In case if you use 10 AWG speaker cables they would add 0.00328 x 2 = 0.00656 Ohms per meter resistance to that amp's output impedance. And just 2 meter-long cables would increase that output impedance to 0.004 + 0.00656 x 2 = 0.01712 Ohms. Now, let's calculate the damping factor at speaker's terminals. For the 8 Ohm speakers that will be 8 / 0.01712 = 467. Instead of the initial 2000 (just 23.4%)! And for any 4 Ohm speakers the damping factor will be a half of that number. Even if you use 2 meters of some pretty heavy 5 AWG speaker cable the resulting damping factor will still be less than a 1000 (985).
@ejhayes4 жыл бұрын
That being said, if Hegel has 2000 or 4000 vs 500 dampening factor from other brands, wouldn’t the logic above apply to both, but Hegel ends up at 1000, and other brands end up 250 or less? Right? Still outperforming low end.
@IliyaOsnovikov4 жыл бұрын
@@ejhayes You are correct. Even with smaller sized cables Hegel would still outperform However, not by much.
@chrisharquail60154 жыл бұрын
Loved this! Looking forward to the next video.
@jsmithepa4 жыл бұрын
Hegels not winning any award for neat assemblies, wires everywhere, like experimental version 1.0.
@thepickyaudiophile4 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, love the enthusiasm. You mentioned a clients Hegel sounding bad and being brand new. How long do you think something like the h90 need to run before coming into it own? Also, do think it’s suited for lower level listening (which is all I do)? Grabbed a h90 at an end of life deal, but initial impressions are not great (B&W Nautilus 805). Thank you and keep up the good work!
@johnbravo75424 жыл бұрын
Great video guys
@Shpillah4 жыл бұрын
PR offensive on US/Canadian market? I used Hegel in a past... for one month. Lucky i sold it.
@sammyg72752 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you ever compare Hegel with Roksan Kamdy Power Amplifier/Integrated Amplifier?
@salahuddinsaleh83544 жыл бұрын
I have a AP Virgo25... Thinking of doing a home demo with the H390 or the Primaluna EVO 400... Any thoughts?
@ralphfurley1234 жыл бұрын
Another amazingly informative discussion!!! ☮️🖖🏽
@jstoli996c4s4 жыл бұрын
Thoughs on pairing Hegel (H190 or H390) with Klipsch, specifically the RF7iii?
@thomaslahr90224 жыл бұрын
Literally a window opened? That’s amazing!!!
@aussie81144 жыл бұрын
I was literally blown away when I heard him say that 😂
@dab9742 Жыл бұрын
How can a device at this price have such a messy internal wiring ? 🥴
@oscarrozados22222 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m thinking of upgrading my stereo setup which is several years old (Revel F12 speakers and Lexicon RV-8 integrated amp). I’m looking at Spatial Audio X5 speakers with a Hegel H-390, do you think they make a good match (synergy)? Which other “combo” for less than $15,000 (speaker, integrated amp, DAC, and music streamer) would you recommend? Thanks!
@vpmm18322 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay and team, Appreciate your advice I have a pair of HiFi Speaker Power rated at 15 W min - 130W. Would like to know, if were to use an Amplifier with a higher Power rating than the Speaker would it damage my mentioned rated speaker i.e Ad Amplifier with rated Power of 2 x 150 W into 8 ohms Amp Which would best the best suitable and matching Amplifier WATTS to drive my speakers with the below-shown Amplifier power rating 2 x 150 W into 8 ohms 2 x 75 W into 8 ohm 2 x 60 W into 8 ohms Thanks in advance
@erichill53284 жыл бұрын
Hello, Would you say the Maggie LRS are better than the Elac Uni-fi UF51 floor standers? I have a high current amp rated at 400 watt per channel at 4 ohms and can play down to 2 ohms. Thanks for your time.
@andreaspuchelt38674 жыл бұрын
I‘m considering buying Sonus Faber Sonetto V pairing it with the new MC Intosh 252. Do you think I should go for the Hegel 390 instead...?
@mk57214 жыл бұрын
Anyone know anything about Pathos quality? I would like a hybrid tube amp and the build quality of the Pathos looks amazing. I have heard horror stories about service as they are based out of Italy, however, so I would look at a McIntosh as a second choice. Hegel is nice but for 4K I want tubes!
@aussie81144 жыл бұрын
The H90 is priced ok but WOW the others become expensive.
@prashantnahata4713 жыл бұрын
Quality never comes cheap
@aceofspades66672 жыл бұрын
got my H160 used (demo show model) for $1500... quite a good deal for me. I feed it with an external DAC and streamers so really only care about amp and preamp stage from it.
@robertsbenedikt48134 жыл бұрын
Nice. Can you advice: I have Audio Physic Scorpio, Hegel H360 match for this speakers? Or better Parasound Hint 6? Thank You.
@HaraldMacGerhard4 жыл бұрын
Proudly Norwegian :-)
@stevec54654 жыл бұрын
But made in China 🇨🇳
@morespinach98323 жыл бұрын
@@stevec5465 as most things are, including Armani suits.
@stevec54653 жыл бұрын
@@morespinach9832 I would not pay top dollar for the amp or the suit made in China. Only lower priced items. There is NO reason for high prices for Chinese made items. Apple makes billions off of child workers there. Because labor there is CHEAP. Iphones don't need to be $700 and up. The cost including labor is probably less than $100. And only a fool would pay high prices for a chinese made armani suit.
@martinmbokazi83724 жыл бұрын
I have the Bowers & Wilkins 702 S2 floorstanders. Will the Hegel H200 be a good match for the Bowers & Wilkins ?. Thank you
@JJTeam-yr6tb4 жыл бұрын
Definitely. B&W 700 series has kind of a classic sound which the Hegel sound resembles. On the warm side. No frills, simple. Excellent damping factor.
@slawek68299 ай бұрын
Hegel 390 for 702s2 or mcintosh 8950 which one is more preferred ?
@henriksrensen59584 жыл бұрын
Do you know how hegel h590 compared to devialet 220 pro?
@Habibiscake4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried hegel 90 with Atc Scm 11's ?
@CDJF14 жыл бұрын
You guys need to hear a QSC MX 3000a power amp......Audiophile grade with 500+ RMS WPC @ 4ohm......You'll be surprised.
@michaelgalanos9814 жыл бұрын
You should try it before you say it is not Audiophile quality.
@klewja4 жыл бұрын
I have a hegel h360 driving a pair of Magico S1MK2. Feed with a Chord Hugo TT2 and it sound incredible.
@pianomusicmartha3 жыл бұрын
Hello. I purchased a Hegel h 590 for my magnepan 1.7 I. I was very disappointed. Good dynamic ,very good dac but the overal sound is quite harsh compared to my vtl st 150. You can’t listen music more than 15 minutes. Very boring in fact.the real life of music is gone. A lot of money for a so bad result. For me magnepan are good with powerfully valve amplifier...
@victortonkin8384 жыл бұрын
Hegel H590 vs Mcintosh MA900 ?
@fredfungalspore3 жыл бұрын
Luxman L-509X..?
@cupofteaplease4 жыл бұрын
Have to say am not overly impressed with the rats nest of wiring in this amp ,just contrast it with how the ladies at Naim wire their amps,dont own either of these amps just to clarify, but i have built a few amps before and would not dream of leaving that mess.
@genotabby3 жыл бұрын
Any opinions on using a hegel h360 to drive a susvara?
@aceofspades66672 жыл бұрын
I use H160 to drive my 1266 Phi TC straight from the taps. Feeding the Hegel from a Holo Spring KTE dac. The chain is fantastic and really gives the Phi TC bass some balls. No issues with noise floor. Headfi has a speaker tap thread you may find useful.
@orwhat244 жыл бұрын
Immediately Pass Labs/1st Watt comes to mind for comparison...
@dmartyn38094 жыл бұрын
How would the Hegel amps pair with the KEF LS50s?
@AudioExcellenceCanada4 жыл бұрын
Great !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@buttonman18314 жыл бұрын
I am currently using an H90 with LS50s and the synergy is so good I'll never disturb it.
@paulomontero124 жыл бұрын
Pound per pound Best amps!
@fizywig4 жыл бұрын
Would the Hegel h390 make the ATC SCM 40 s sound better just like the Hegel transformed the Audio Physic speakers?
@zenguitar654 жыл бұрын
Hello, is the H90 a good choice to drive the Magnepan 1.7i ?
@zenguitar654 жыл бұрын
@@adrianlow2114 thank you
@srijithview3 жыл бұрын
Does that mean all other brands are dead???
@snl58044 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting the H90 outperforms the Naim Nait 5si?
@buttonman18314 жыл бұрын
My H90 is hooked up to a pair of LS50s which sound amazing. My Hegel hooked up to my Thiels sounds very meh but my lesser Rotel RA1570 sounds way better driving my Thiels Performance is relative to the rest of your system, but Hegel competes which Naim directly.
@parapobabam4 жыл бұрын
how does it compare to the sonos amp?
@hilde454 жыл бұрын
The French company Atoll makes integrated amps worth comparing to Hegel, would you agree?
@Paul03262 жыл бұрын
Depends on the set but with B&W 804 it's not amazing...
@astralboy4 жыл бұрын
also compatible with beagle and my pet eagle
@nelsta77u.k534 жыл бұрын
astralboy79 😂😂😂
@stephenimperatrice33252 жыл бұрын
hegels are great sounding amps and are good value but the dacs arent that great sounding to my ears
@AndyBHome4 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this channel. I'm in the Detroit area, but Markham, Ontario isn't too far to go to get HiFi equipment. It sounds like it might be a great place to shop.
@solstadier4 жыл бұрын
Or you could get it in your neighbourhood. Check out www.hegel.com/usa Two of the stores in Michigan should be close to you (Royal Oak)
@howardskeivys41844 жыл бұрын
Interesting, a channel promoting high end audio with very poor audio reproduction.
@jaaron28344 жыл бұрын
The Hegel H590....is almost $8000.00.......it better blow away those Blowhards...!
@earl0073 жыл бұрын
A damping factor of 100 is plenty. Hegel is an overkill and shouldn’t make any difference to sound. See ceo psb audio who states 4000 is nuts
@aceofspades66672 жыл бұрын
Nope... 1k+ for Maggies at minimum.. You need mucho damping factor to control a fast planar ribbon driver. Also needs mucho current and stable down to 2 ohms.
@duncandistortion6 ай бұрын
10:40 Messy wiring.
@shahidyt4 жыл бұрын
How is the Hegel Röst vs the H90?
@oysteinsoreide43234 жыл бұрын
@@adrianlow2114 The H120 is the successor to the Røst model if you want to go for a better Røst model.
@aceofspades66672 жыл бұрын
go with a used H160 over both especially if you already have a good dac.
@shahidyt2 жыл бұрын
@@aceofspades6667 thanks for the advice. I managed to get a used Röst about a year ago. Really pleased with it. Loving it even more since I went balanced from the DAC to the amp, due to the increase in gain and the addition of dual subs
@michaelgalanos9814 жыл бұрын
2200 for a h90 at 60 watts a side I don't know how you can call this affordable. Get your math straight.
@bighands694 жыл бұрын
Any working class person could buy it if they put their mind to it.
@RennieAsh4 жыл бұрын
bighand69 but can any working person tell the difference in sound between that and a cheaper amp with more power?
@bighands694 жыл бұрын
@@RennieAsh It really depends on the person. Some rich people would not know the difference either. At higher volumes it would become apparent to people which is better.
@Markkrochuk19794 жыл бұрын
How come their integrated amps have much more dampening power (4000) versus their power amps (1000)?
@torchbox4 жыл бұрын
The don’t use negative feedback and use what they call “sound engine” - instead. NFB lowers DF. But I doubt what they are hearing is attributed solely to DF. See: www.audiofrog.com/community/tech-tips/damping-factor-and-why-it-isnt-much-of-a-factor-2/
@oysteinsoreide43233 жыл бұрын
The sound engine 2 gives higher damping factor. The power amps use the previous version of the soundengine.
@Zulus222 жыл бұрын
That's not true ! There are thorough tests here ; www.soundstagenetwork.com/
@labalo54 жыл бұрын
What is the reliability on Hegel?
@labalo54 жыл бұрын
Adrian Low thanks for the info. I’ve been really researching and not really coming up with much. Their release cycles seem to be a bit on the higher side which might be due to all the extra bells and whistles making it a modern component.
@RainmakerAnton4 жыл бұрын
@@labalo5 I own and owned a variety of Hegel amps over the years. They never failed me, the build quality is amazing, the design is very clean, and actually Hegel is known for avoiding bells and whistles and focusing on the sound, which is incredible (paired with Spendor speakers in my case).
@labalo54 жыл бұрын
Anton let me be more specific. Adding airplay/Spotify or even Roon are arguably considered to be bells and whistles. Those can be handle outside of the unit. Hegel did mention in an interview that they are careful to add new tech in their integrateds because what will the best flavor be next year(they were referring to Roon) I am a recent fan of the articulations of the amplifier for sure, I’m just conscious of buying the most for my budget and doing as much DD so I can refrain as much on upgrading agin. Money doesn’t grow on trees for many music lovers.
@IliyaOsnovikov4 жыл бұрын
I wish you guys have somewhat better sound quality and used a separate mic.
@yttean984 жыл бұрын
Which model, price, power output, class A,AB,D, etc? you all put out a summary first with this spec first before talk about the secondary issues.
@hellprod40963 жыл бұрын
Thanx for a nice and informative review but you should learn somthing about sound recording!
@sresener4 жыл бұрын
I hope you didn't listen to the amps in the room your sitting in. Your voice sounds boomy and off and I notice a questionable placement of the white speaker behind you. I could only imagine how this room would effect the quality of your listening experience.
@mrchinaski41254 жыл бұрын
Boys get a room
@dmax-ux6sn4 жыл бұрын
SO they are good because you guys sell them?! Lol
@boggy813 жыл бұрын
You're audiophiles, but you cannot record sound properly.
@kimchee4113 жыл бұрын
What does one have to do with the other? They are consumers, not producers, of sound.
@newsigmundfreud30232 жыл бұрын
*Nice marketing/advertising.*
@jamapaza Жыл бұрын
So, three biased Hegel fanboys like the Hegel. Hmmm, it‘s surprising! I‘ve bought some 500$ loudspeakers from amazon and hooked a Hegel H190 up. Now they sound like Wilson Audio.
@vicg53234 жыл бұрын
No demo
@EdBenji3 ай бұрын
The guy on the left should be on a diet!
@fredfungalspore3 жыл бұрын
Sound is not everything ..Silver please....
@huckfin11004 жыл бұрын
Or are they just remarketing something from the 80s?
@oysteinsoreide43234 жыл бұрын
Hegel amplifiers is refining the sound engine to this day, and they started business in the 90s. Just read you up about the history of Hegel at www.hegel.com/
@JohnLee-db9zt3 жыл бұрын
Dampening factor is not as important for bass response as you guys make it out to be. Sure if you have a dampening factor of 10, it’s gonna be loose. Over couple hundred is all academic.
@aceofspades66672 жыл бұрын
damping factor is critical for bass control and grip for speakers like Maggies. It's more important than watts and as important as current.
@JohnLee-db9zt2 жыл бұрын
@@aceofspades6667 That’s your opinion. In my 40 years of high end audio and designing amplifiers and building my own speakers, most modern amps and speakers are way too damped. Over dampening sucks the bass harmonics out music. You don’t need a dampening factor of 1000+ of some switching amps, which sound “dry” and lifeless. You definitely don’t want to under damp like some flea powered SET amps either.
@JohnLee-db9zt2 жыл бұрын
@@aceofspades6667 Maggie diaphragms are tuned at the factory for a natural bass response. In terms of quality, they have some the best bass in the market.
@dandinhofer92403 жыл бұрын
Ok. So here's what I cannot figure out. The latest equipment reviewed is good quality, has respectable performance, but (for me) looks like absolute SH-T. There's very little visual appeal (eye candy). Nothing that grabs your heart and tugs hard at the wallet. Hi End equipment like Hegel, or Anthem or Rogue, Marantz, Prima Luna etc, etc, etc is seriously aesthetically challenged. Plain silver or plain black box after plain G-D boring box. There's nothing out there that looks as good as 70's vintage equipment. NOTHING! And yet there you guys are sitting around waxing paradoxically day after day. Just makes absolutely no sense. Wanna see beautiful. Pioneer SX3900, or SX1980 recievers, or SA9800 integrated amp, or Sansui G series G9000. How about the 60's Marantz 1900, or 80's 2600 receivers, or Technics SE-A3? What gives????
@presidentpotato2222 жыл бұрын
Jay is not worthy to be anything but a stock boy or camera operator
@chriss8810003 жыл бұрын
Hegel is waaay overpriced,
@subbot80773 жыл бұрын
I mean compared to something like Naim it really isn't that bad, especially their lower-tier products.
@chriss8810003 жыл бұрын
@@subbot8077 tbereis a reason hegel is overpriced, bec hegel comes from the most exspensive country on the planet
@bloodcarver9133 жыл бұрын
@@chriss881000 Being from Norway I can confirm that! ^^
@chriss8810003 жыл бұрын
@@bloodcarver913 😄
@aceofspades66672 жыл бұрын
got my H160 for $1500 USD it was a dealer demo model. Been fantastic and the best money spend in my chain
@salvadorrodenas30714 жыл бұрын
Damping factor in itself does mean nothing, besides, I thought I would listen the integrated amp, not three men telling subjective opinions. 👎
@aceofspades66672 жыл бұрын
go buy a maggie and buy a power amp with 200df and 1000 watts (say class D) then go buy a used Hegel A/B say 1000df and 200 watts per channel then report back please. DF and current are essential for planar ribbon panel speakers.
@salvadorrodenas30712 жыл бұрын
@@aceofspades6667 horses for courses my friend, a pair of loudspeakers with a low nominal impedance needs a different amplifier than that of an easy load and low sensitivity. Everything else is personal opinions based on air.