Bad Gear - Roland TR-8

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3 жыл бұрын

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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Roland TR-8 Rhythm Performer. Has this 2014 drum machine already become a classic???

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@neurotransmission6825
@neurotransmission6825 3 жыл бұрын
Come for the jokes and insight into gear, stay for the 90's references and sick jams. And lol at the guy that sold this for a drumbrute.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That one had me ROFLing too!
@imhatchmantoo
@imhatchmantoo 3 жыл бұрын
This guy can take any piece of gear and really make it do some awesome stuff
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@CroixMedia
@CroixMedia 3 жыл бұрын
I love how in Ableton you kept that "How to Report a Crash" tutorial up. I've been feeling that a lot recently.
@jdssurf
@jdssurf 3 жыл бұрын
Why ? Does it crash a lot for ppl
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Every. Single. Time.
@jdssurf
@jdssurf 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz wtf then, what should I pick if I wanna use lots of hardware synths but DAW sounds as well?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdssurf it's more of s computer problem than an Ableton one. Reaper works on more or less every pocket calculator;)
@jdssurf
@jdssurf 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz So you would pic reaper over Ableton…………………I have to pull the trigger soon, I don’t want to shoot myself in the pecker
@cameronallen2174
@cameronallen2174 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my TR-8 for years and JUST learned how to set the gain of individual instruments thank you!! Great video as always
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Gain staging is key!!!
@Redge.
@Redge. 3 жыл бұрын
The TR-8S (updated version of the TR-8, that includes a digital display and dozens of other classic Roland drum kits included) is my baby that ticks all of the boxes... yet somehow this video still makes me want a TR-8. Great work!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Spherical_El
@Spherical_El 3 жыл бұрын
Prices of OG double by Monday.
@ClifBratcher
@ClifBratcher 3 жыл бұрын
Love the TR-8S, but I really wish Roland would either make an editor for it or expand its sysex capability. There's so much under the hood hiding behind all those menus.
@Redge.
@Redge. 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClifBratcher YES! totally agreed
@modalmixture
@modalmixture 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClifBratcher Yeah, Roland is great at providing way too many features/settings than the interface can realistically make use of. The sheer number of parameters for some of the effects is a little ridiculous. Do I really need to adjust the reverb early reflection and diffusion rates in a TR style drum machine? No. Could I do with a non-headache-inducing way to program pitch changes for the samples? PLEASE.
@matthewlister3755
@matthewlister3755 3 жыл бұрын
"The sounds are spot on..." *shows screen shot of Rebirth* It's the little touches that makes this such a great show. That got a big chuckle out of me.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@adrianoconnor3020
@adrianoconnor3020 3 жыл бұрын
I loved rebirth,it sounded great
@benmatthews8732
@benmatthews8732 2 жыл бұрын
So glad someone else laughed at that, because that was a very good joke.
@BigEpinstriping
@BigEpinstriping 2 жыл бұрын
@@benmatthews8732 I still have my copy. With the mousepad.
@Stopinvadingmyhardware
@Stopinvadingmyhardware 2 жыл бұрын
Then you find out they used the Rebirth algorithms for the emulation
@colinreynolds01
@colinreynolds01 3 жыл бұрын
Came for the reviews, stayed for the badass jams. I just stumbled across your vids a few days ago and have since binged the lot. Fantastic stuff, brother!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Stick around!!!
@Spherical_El
@Spherical_El 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews I could hope to watch - thanks .
@old_romans
@old_romans 3 жыл бұрын
Here I am in my office having lunch with my co-workers enjoying the stock footage of coworkers enjoying work
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Co-work-ception!!!
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser 3 жыл бұрын
Okay I love the fact you chose the best of both worlds from TNG. This feels exactly what Roland wanted, an "analogue" experience with digital hardware.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Almost poetic!
@ASH-ou4cg
@ASH-ou4cg 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing song you made with this. So warm and relaxing!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Owoshima_
@Owoshima_ 3 жыл бұрын
This video really brings the "album when?" questions to the spotlight. Absolute fantastic video, and equally fantastic audio demos.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Which of the 8 requested albums are you referring to?;)
@Owoshima_
@Owoshima_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz All of them. or a nice YT LP/EP of demos potentially.
@MusicianParadise
@MusicianParadise 3 жыл бұрын
that scutter voice over was spot on , and your show is rollercoaster of emotions!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@TheScreamingFrog916
@TheScreamingFrog916 Жыл бұрын
I love mine. Got the expansion for it too. I think it really sounds good, and has fun features, to spice up your jams. And I love the Green accents and colored LED buttons.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@iterativeincremental
@iterativeincremental Жыл бұрын
yeah. it took me a while to get over the minimalism. It is a good new take. surely lacks in some areas. On the other hand the input with sidechain is a bummer that alone can drive a whole liveset ....
@LouisSerieusement
@LouisSerieusement 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I leave 2 weeks or so and have already 3 episodes to watch ! I'm glad you keep making those in the summer but I still hope you enjoy some sort of vacation !
@null_state
@null_state 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. The TR8 as the Borg, what a beautiful way to start the episode! Resistance is Futile.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Resistance is GROOVY!!!
@null_state
@null_state 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz I am Locutus of Borg, and I am here... to DANCE *Borg Techno Intensifies*
@15913Music
@15913Music 3 жыл бұрын
My first thought was that it was very bold to go after such a relatively new piece, but having used both the TR-8 and the TR-8S extensively I agreed with every single point you made.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@n.l.j
@n.l.j 3 жыл бұрын
This episode is on another level, props.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@skywatchernorth
@skywatchernorth 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right that paid upgrade is some absolute bollocks. Loved the show as always Florian!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@callummacdonald9610
@callummacdonald9610 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the consistently top notch content man!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lairdkilbarchan
@lairdkilbarchan 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, another centre piece of my creativity brought into disrepute. You really should just come round my place and save yourself the hassle of any further research. 😁👍
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Pics or didn't happen😂
@lairdkilbarchan
@lairdkilbarchan 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Dear Sir, I shall happy to provide the documentary evidence requested in due course. Yours sincerely, etc etc..
@avarlin
@avarlin 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@nachshonrorick
@nachshonrorick 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have a tabletop full of stuff that was featured! Xio synth, Rc-09, microsampler...bring on the SH-32 and EF-303 feature 😜
@lairdkilbarchan
@lairdkilbarchan 3 жыл бұрын
​@@nachshonrorick It's beginning to dawn on me that music tech people are so insatiable that eventually EVERYTHING EVER MADE will eventually find itself on Bad Gear. You can guarantee even the finest bit of kit isn't good enough for somebody somewhere. You've gotta hand it to Florian, he's found a job for life. lol.
@rodmorrison47
@rodmorrison47 3 жыл бұрын
I got mine used and already expanded with 707 sounds. I love it! Even the Return of the Jedi black & green colour scheme does it for me. I've gone into the settings and changed the TR colours on the buttons to green also, so it's like being in a sci fi movie when I use it in low light conditions. Awesome.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
I used sunglasses for the production of this episode;)
@micy80
@micy80 Жыл бұрын
The 707 sounds upgrade are available for free or you need to pay? I am abou to buy a tr8 but unsure about this part. Appreciated!
@paulbmorgan
@paulbmorgan 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point about the new Akai MPC upgrade, I updated mine today and the new synth plugins add so much - the Solina Strings are wonderful...and all for free, well done Akai. My Bass Station II (and Citcuit) despite being long in the tooth is still admirably supported by Novation and their last update effectively turbo charged the synth. Unforgiveable that Roland want over 100usd for some samples which you would expect to have on the machine from the outset; these should at very least be offered to loyal Rolandites at a later date. I have been a Roland fan boy for many years but your excellent diatribes are helping me to see the light, cheers!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yup, the big name keeps them afloat
@AH-wt7zu
@AH-wt7zu 3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure, great work once again
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@matrix12x
@matrix12x 3 жыл бұрын
"So what did they mess up this time?".... love it!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
They always do;)
@Dudderlyful
@Dudderlyful 3 жыл бұрын
ITS FRIDAYYYYYYYYYY HERE WE GOOOOOOO... And now, back to our scheduled show
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Moog it's Friday!!!
@Dudderlyful
@Dudderlyful 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Thanks heavens for Moog!
@anthonycotham4346
@anthonycotham4346 8 ай бұрын
Hi! I recently downloaded the 7x7 pack. and while I had never played with 707 sounds before I may never stop. Definitely worth the upgrade. Also I got the tr-8 because of this video. Same with your other videos for the little Yamaha sampler and the tb-3. Overall the three make an unassuming, affordable and fun rig. Thank you Mr. BadGear. Xoxo
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@patrickg.259
@patrickg.259 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Just received my TR-8S today and was thinking the TR-8 might be a worthy contender for your show…. et voilà! Well done!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Always on time!
@thestinkyweasel6297
@thestinkyweasel6297 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, and another FAB Jam! Might I suggest (if you get around to it, I bet you have a LONG list by now) the Roland Verselab MV-1? A true modern conundrum of a groovebox/ drum machine/ DAWless DAW in a confusing and jumbled package? Truly worthy of a Bad Gear breakdown and demo. Thanks for the awesome videos!!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great idea!!!
@Matt-zp1jn
@Matt-zp1jn Жыл бұрын
Yes! This would be a great video on the MV-1 ‘s shortcomings, plus all its Versatility! 😊
@XanderEwald
@XanderEwald 3 жыл бұрын
I never took this thing seriously until I saw it in full effect in a video by Mylarmelodies. Once I realized it's a future classic in (ugly) disguise, I bought one right away. It's really fun and still the most convenient way to add the classic Roland drum sounds to your setup.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, very powerful performance tool!
@N4SixString
@N4SixString 2 жыл бұрын
what video is that ?
@scottcupp8129
@scottcupp8129 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great instrument :) Very nice, programmable, and sound manipulation. I may look in to this one:) Great video my friend
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@lairdtomfrenchelectromusic2545
@lairdtomfrenchelectromusic2545 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos, as well as your musical demonstrations are still as cult !!! Danke, dass du mich zum Träumen bringen musst, mein Freund. 👍
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup!!!
@fatuzi
@fatuzi 3 жыл бұрын
bad gear makes my fridays 🥰🥰🥰
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that, thanks!
@felixpeccatum1705
@felixpeccatum1705 3 жыл бұрын
The cancellation of the TR8 after the TR8s was to be expected. Still think the S bring more to the table in a studio setting, but I feel like I want a TR8, just for performance. Simplicity is sometimes just what you want, when balancing a beer, smoking a blunt and playing with your d-beam….
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the d-beam upgrade;)
@felixpeccatum1705
@felixpeccatum1705 3 жыл бұрын
Stereo in to hook up your SH-201! Go nuts! :)
@Redge.
@Redge. 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! I love my 8S for the amazing features it offers, but a straightforward approach like the TR8 can really speed up one's workflow
@Derzaubererer
@Derzaubererer 3 жыл бұрын
i have a tr8 and damn i want the tr8s 2.0 update its exaclty what im missing with my tr8:o
@myousickoflife
@myousickoflife 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said. The SH-201 and this bad boy go together like peanut butter and jelly
@anx1
@anx1 3 жыл бұрын
That jam with the tr8 and blofield and company was damm good I've got an rd8 with the flam thing but you sort of killed it using that scatter👌🔥
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really had to practice on the scatter. It's a bit unpredictable
@cyborgmetropolis7652
@cyborgmetropolis7652 3 жыл бұрын
❤️ I always enjoy these uploads! ❤️
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@CEF_LEF
@CEF_LEF 3 жыл бұрын
The TR8s scatter button is one of my best friends, interesting sounds with a Roland sp404a running through it
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, great on external sources
@fatcheese5534
@fatcheese5534 3 жыл бұрын
WTAF.... You had the chance but didn't mention the crunch! When using delay number 8 put the level all the way up and tweak the time and feedback you get a lovely chruch! I'll eat that for beakfast every day! :) I love mine! And will never part with it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting that!
@Claidheambmor
@Claidheambmor 3 жыл бұрын
The screenshot of the FX modes at 2:10 shows 'delay' number 8 and its bit crushing powers!
@MBEG89
@MBEG89 3 жыл бұрын
Wow didnt know that, so many hidden functions
@hogbowlbeats
@hogbowlbeats 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for an 808-style drum machine remake a few months ago, and this was one of them on my "maybe buy" list. Seeing its limitations, I'm glad I stuck with the Behringer RD-8. Great video!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Behringer RD-8 is certainly a solid choice!
@AnalogDude_
@AnalogDude_ 2 жыл бұрын
the voice circuits of the tr-808 aren't really complex and pretty much low part count. (easy to clone) the TR-909 is a different story, the guy who made these circuits should be considered a hero, did you know the TR-909 kick/bass drum consist of 3 VCO's while the TR-606, TR-808 are only one.
@streettrash_sid
@streettrash_sid 7 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilzwhy don’t you just stick your tongue straight down Uri’s trousers! Admit it, you love Behringer!
@KUSHGRAM
@KUSHGRAM 3 жыл бұрын
Love the TR8, for sure a bargain in the second hand market if you look at your first Drum machine. Love also your verdict , you’re totally right! Nicely done as usual!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@JonasHamill
@JonasHamill 3 жыл бұрын
Having to pay £100 extra just for the 606 and 707 samples is definitely my biggest gripe with this unit. Just needless
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Set the 707 free!!!
@zaksimmons6848
@zaksimmons6848 3 жыл бұрын
I think 606 is free with firmware update, and 707 includes 727.
@muzikman2008
@muzikman2008 3 жыл бұрын
@@zaksimmons6848 correct. I bought the 7x7 upgrade and got the 606 free 👍
@muzikman2008
@muzikman2008 3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting more drum machine updates like the CR78 but it never arrived.. They brought out the TR8S instead. Not bought any roland gear since, felt cheated and robbed lol.
@2point7182818284590
@2point7182818284590 2 жыл бұрын
They are not only samples, though. But of course it's WAY too expensive.
@TimmyBolan
@TimmyBolan 3 жыл бұрын
The highlight of my week, every week.
@ayashi3288
@ayashi3288 3 жыл бұрын
This and regular car reviews
@AboveEmAllProduction
@AboveEmAllProduction 3 жыл бұрын
Same but I think I'm growing out of it 😞❤️
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@min-yishen9324
@min-yishen9324 3 жыл бұрын
I know there is something wrong in my brain when I chose to watch Bad Gear before Tour de France and Euro 2020.
@cl1xor
@cl1xor 3 жыл бұрын
Use it in your daily life to enjoy it at other days: at the first glance this lunch / excel sheet / quarterly result is ticking all the boxes :)
@TheRemixGeneration
@TheRemixGeneration 3 жыл бұрын
I am here! and at the first glance this video is great!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RobertDorschel
@RobertDorschel 3 жыл бұрын
I want to point out that 1) I have the TR8 + 7x7 expansion; 2) I watched this video on my studio setup with Yamaha HS8 + HS8S sub and cranked it boom chika boom; and 3) my TR8 is now off the shelf and back to being played with. Thank you for relighting the fire here, Florian
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure, thanks!
@auxlen
@auxlen 3 жыл бұрын
I bought into the Aira range. I had the Tr-8, the mixer, and the TB-3 and spent many an evening jamming away. Sometimes that is the beauty of something, just fun. Yes, you could make music (ie record and master) but that was (IMHO) not what brought me joy.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
The integration with the mixer seems super interesting!
@auxlen
@auxlen 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz It was a lot of fun...maybe look into it.
@DrJ3RK8
@DrJ3RK8 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of both TR-8 and TR-8S. I actually like using the original TR-8 better live, and the TR-8S better to do more intricately programmed things. Both sound excellent. I was surprised by how much I liked them.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Roland certainly got the sound right on these
@vazfinestdjchozin1599
@vazfinestdjchozin1599 3 жыл бұрын
i CAN SEE WHY YOUR CHANNEL IS SO POPULAR. Thanks for the review.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hellotherethisiskiminsung
@hellotherethisiskiminsung 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I've seen it a lot of times, but it really is magnificent... Those lights, the control... M8 it makes me wanna buy it
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
The lights can be quite annoying tbh;)
@evantraasdahl4040
@evantraasdahl4040 3 жыл бұрын
Hey love the show, I'd love to see an episode on the Yamaha QY70 as I feel it fits the general vibe of the show well. If you cant find one hit me up and I'll send you mine. Happy friday guy, thanks for the video!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion, thanks! QYs are on the list for much too long!
@vroenis
@vroenis 3 жыл бұрын
omg that Rebirth screenshot 😆😆 Minidisc! Ticking all the nostalgia boxes! OK early 00’s corporate video music & stock footage is a step too far, I’m having flashbacks (good job 😆)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@liudas5377
@liudas5377 3 жыл бұрын
That rebirth screenshot.....
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'll be keeping my eye out for one of these if it's a bargain and already has the downloads.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Prices are OK ATM!!!
@Yuzuki1337
@Yuzuki1337 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take "Things I did not expect to see here" for 500! :D Thanks for the episode as always and have a nice weekend! ❤️
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks❤️
@Frisqo
@Frisqo 2 жыл бұрын
The TR-8 is already a classic. It accompanied me at many performances. More versatile than you think, love it!
@andrewfar2461
@andrewfar2461 2 жыл бұрын
How you use It in a performance? I want to use It in USB mode, and put effects on It's channels. The problem Is that to use It in multitrack mode you have to use It as audio interface in ableton but i can't mute the dry sound from the drum machine (i hear ableton sounds + effected tr8 + TR8 DRY SOUND). How can i mute the dry sound, i don't want to use another audio interface because in that way i can't put different effects on every single Channel. Glad if you can help me
@Frisqo
@Frisqo 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewfar2461 I just use the stereo out from the TR-8. If you want multitrack, you can work around with the assignable outs
@corrosiveabuser
@corrosiveabuser 3 жыл бұрын
I was wary of the ACB stuff from Roland when first released, having owned many of their classic pieces over the years, like many others I was hoping for some real analogue units, - but once I tried the little TR-08 Boutique, around the summer of 2018, I was really surprised. I now have 5 of the boutiques, the SH-01A, Ju-06A, TR-08, TR-06, TB-03 a TR-8s, System-8 and only recently managed to get hold of an immaculate secondhand TR-8 +expansions. With superb secondhand examples going for as cheap as £200, I couldn't resist buying the 8, - although I think I paid around £350, just to get an immaculate, as new, example...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Cool collection!!!
@onlychld6121
@onlychld6121 2 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that i've watched some of these episodes so many times I have unwillingly memorized some dialogue? Top KZfaq show
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️Thanks!❤️❤️❤️
@Synthsound
@Synthsound 4 ай бұрын
Wie immer: ein sehr cooles Video! Danke dafür 🙂 Zur TR-8: Der Grundsatz "Weniger ist mehr" gilt hier für mich persönlich absolut. Rasch viel liefern ohne stundenlanges Nachlesen im Handbuch, kein Menu-Diving wie bei der TR-8S. Ich habe meine erste TR-8 verkauft, weil ich mir eine TR-8s gekauft habe. Ich wurde aber nie glücklich damit und habe meinen Entscheid, die TR-8 wegzugeben, zu tiefst bereut.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 ай бұрын
Vielen Dank!!!
@ultralife73
@ultralife73 3 жыл бұрын
Sequencing this thing with an external sequencer like the Beatstep Pro over midi wil REALLY give it more depth. Also: Get a second hand one with the upgrades for 707, 727 and 606 included. They are about 300 bucks. Great value for money. I love this thing. It sounds amazing, Roland's ACB absolutely nails the sounds of their own classic drum machines. Fuck all the naysayers! :-)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd love to test the 7x7 upgrade!
@LousyFacelift
@LousyFacelift 3 жыл бұрын
The "naysaying" has to do with the fact that Roland obviously felt the need to "improve" on their ACB sound quality in their boutique versions and TR 8S only two years after the TR 8 was released, without offering a way to upgrade to the new standard, despite having marketed the TR 8 as a largely expandable concept. The difference in sound between these versions is hardly noticable, the whole debate is not really about sound quality, it's about Roland raising high expectations in the longevity of the TR 8 and then making a money greedy move by replacing it. They made it look future proof, sold tons of it and then did everything to make it look unattractive and devalue it after only two years. Not cool....
@PorchBass
@PorchBass 3 жыл бұрын
Until the mk2 with better sound....
@ultralife73
@ultralife73 3 жыл бұрын
@limelight81 Oh, this thing looks like a turd, totally agree :-)
@ultralife73
@ultralife73 3 жыл бұрын
@@LousyFacelift Ah, ok, yeah, that's a dick move. I can imagine feeling cheated when you paid full retail and two years later the machine was as good as abandoned in favor of the new and shiny, by it's own creator. I have had some discussions with people who think it does not sound good, and not like the originals. But that's probably nitpicking from their side. I think it sounds great. having said that, it's a bargain second-hand for 300 bucks, including the expansions...
@DonnDeVoreMusic
@DonnDeVoreMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed the green-ness of it. and the sound.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
So green...
@romanbrandle319
@romanbrandle319 3 жыл бұрын
Despite having reverted back to being a metal guitarist ,your channel is one of my favorites and as they would say in Swiss German but with bad spelling, " Du bisch e geile siech" which strangely keeps me hoping that they never stop making bad gear .
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm pretty sure we will never run out of Bad Gear!
@BCThunderthud
@BCThunderthud Жыл бұрын
Just rewatching this and I laughed out loud at the inspirational business montage.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@snowleopard9749
@snowleopard9749 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I get worried that you're going to run out of Bad Gear to review, but then I realised that won't be a problem while Roland is still in business!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Roland keeps this channel going!
@low_rise5030
@low_rise5030 3 жыл бұрын
"bald claim" - LMAO!! :D :D wether it was intentional or not - made my day!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Who knows;)
@futureworldmachines4407
@futureworldmachines4407 3 жыл бұрын
I had my TR-8 for sale on reverb until I saw this, I'm keeping it now, thanks for making me sense!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that! Fun machine for jamming!
@ballpowermdk
@ballpowermdk 3 жыл бұрын
That little scatter jam in the middle is one of your best yet
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@mitchelviolins210
@mitchelviolins210 Жыл бұрын
The 707 is my most used kit on this. Also the 909 kick through distortion gets wild.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Yeah, love 707 sounds!
@mitchelviolins210
@mitchelviolins210 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz probably should have been free though lol
@issahumps
@issahumps Жыл бұрын
Got a tr-8s but I always come crawling back to the tr-8 😂. Very easy to just get into making drum loops. The tr-8s just feels overly complicated. I’m still a noob after a few years so maybe it’s me.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
TR-8 is a modern classic!
@MrBeatcreep
@MrBeatcreep 3 жыл бұрын
das mpc update ist der wahnsinn. ich krieg die karre nur noch kurz aus um deine videos zu gucken. :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Danke für's Pause machen;)
@audiolego
@audiolego 3 жыл бұрын
That is the best drum machine I ever had. 29 tracks later. It was sold so I can now use a sampler, MPCX. I was going for Mc707 or TR8s but went with a true sampler. That acb is legit
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
True, ACB is pretty spot on
@sennstrato7281
@sennstrato7281 2 жыл бұрын
I use my tr8 all the time. It's fun!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, super fun modern drum machine
@vladv5126
@vladv5126 3 жыл бұрын
ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop, I'm the scatter man
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Hit record material;)
@axidhaus
@axidhaus 3 жыл бұрын
SchizZzz going everywhere
@187onasimp
@187onasimp 3 жыл бұрын
I had this first but upgraded to the TR8S...then I sold my TR8S... missed it and brought it again a month later. That says enough right there... it's awesome.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Very immediate machine!
@audreyazwell
@audreyazwell 2 жыл бұрын
oh man for a second I thought you were doing the TR 8s lol I'm like "wait isn't that a fairly universally loved drum machine?!" lol I know next to nothing about the previous model so I can't wait to dig in!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
That one is really nice but - well - not perfect;)
@synthlord2368
@synthlord2368 3 жыл бұрын
Another review on a piece of gear I own.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing personal;)
@FuZZbaLLbee
@FuZZbaLLbee 3 жыл бұрын
Finally discussing a machine I have Actually not bad gear 😋
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
You know the drill: one man's Bad Gear;)
@abstractmodule4574
@abstractmodule4574 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to my world. They got me with the MicroKorg episode. Lol
@TheOriginalEUrban
@TheOriginalEUrban 3 жыл бұрын
MicroKorg ES2 user here. I consider it a badge of honor to see my toys on this series.
@andrewstanworth529
@andrewstanworth529 Жыл бұрын
The TR8 is a wonderful piece of gear! It's so unroland like when it comes to the workflow! It just works!! Very Well! Shocked 😮! And pleased!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Shocking indeed!
@kassemir
@kassemir 3 жыл бұрын
that footage of a guy putting a white square in a frame up next to a photo of you on a white wall - love it :D
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jacobtaves8471
@jacobtaves8471 3 жыл бұрын
Love the show, still want you to track down a zoom street box drum machine!
@kingcobra124
@kingcobra124 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, I just got a RT-123 RhythmTrax. It would be sick to see it on here!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! I still have to find enough hate for it;)
@gordon2402
@gordon2402 3 жыл бұрын
Auch wenn acid ziemlich einfach zu programmieren ist ( wenn man es als erfahrener Musiker mal genau nimmt) Aber du schüttelts mal wirklich paar coole lines hin . 👍🏻🎹🎶
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Besten Dank!!!
@syntxtre
@syntxtre 3 жыл бұрын
TR8 is a great drum machine. No parameter locking but did offer complete MIDI CC control over all the parameters including scatter depth and pattern selection tuning and decay for all instruments.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
That's the good thing about the midi implementation of the TR-8;)
@alchimerical2613
@alchimerical2613 3 жыл бұрын
I love how this show points out everything bad about a bit of gear and then makes said bit of gear sound great.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's the mission!!!
@annee1272
@annee1272 3 жыл бұрын
7:27 hahaha you nailed it with the "inspirational" corporate videos lmao
@gasolineandwine
@gasolineandwine 3 жыл бұрын
727 time stamp?
@annee1272
@annee1272 3 жыл бұрын
@@gasolineandwine wdym
@gasolineandwine
@gasolineandwine 3 жыл бұрын
@@annee1272 727 as in Roland TR-727 😎
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! They're a constant PITA;)
@RumchugMusic
@RumchugMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I can feel the synergy.
@blimolhm2790
@blimolhm2790 3 жыл бұрын
Behringer is waking up Roland to create new unique instruments, one classic at a time.. thankfully The Matrix colour scheme didn't lure me into grabbing one of these. My volca drum still keeps me very happy to this day as a percussion/tone generator. You look so futuristic in a turtle neck
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Turtle neck & chain!!! ;)
@187onasimp
@187onasimp 3 жыл бұрын
lol, Behringer isn't doing anything but rummaging around in Roland's closet. Roland has always innovated their products they never look back it's why they haven't gone back to analog but instead perfect technology to make a more efficient version of it with ACB tech. The TR8 was impressive as it had everything you could want from an 808 but when they made the TR8S they pretty much gave you all of Rolands best offerings in one box that covers it all.
@smts0243
@smts0243 3 жыл бұрын
@@187onasimp calling a company innovative for doing nothing much for the past 25 years but putting samples of their glorious past into yet another plastic box, may be a bit bold. It's like a news outlet that goes from paper to web in a bid to stay current, but then keeps printing the exact same articles every year. The super saw was the hoarse last breath from a company with more to look back on than to look forward to. I know that's an over the top statement, but it's the comment section of bad gear and all in fun 😀
@lumer2b
@lumer2b 3 жыл бұрын
@@smts0243 Oh the horror, a company using their own IP in newer products! BTW those are not samples, but emulation of the analog circuits. You can tweak parameters you can’t on sample boxes, and they sound good.
@smts0243
@smts0243 3 жыл бұрын
@@lumer2b oh the innovation. Totally new sonic experiences 😁
@AngelusNielson
@AngelusNielson 2 жыл бұрын
This channel wouldn't be half as great without your accent. Good stuff.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@TT-md7mm
@TT-md7mm 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, got me sold on your channel within the first 3 seconds, just gonna go ahead and hit that subscribe button. lol
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subscribing!
@framzoid
@framzoid 3 жыл бұрын
It's a very "in demand" unit these days. It's pluses outweigh it's minuses and I ALWAYS thought it's 808 and 909 emulations were dead on.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Really like the sounds too!
@jimmywheelo
@jimmywheelo 2 жыл бұрын
coupled with the full midi implementation it's a must have for X0X heads. Sequenced from the DAW it is hard to beat
@oldowl4290
@oldowl4290 Жыл бұрын
As an older drummer who is mainly into EDM music I have to say I find it kind of odd how much old school electronic drum sounds still permeate most, if not all, dance music even now in 2022 some 40 years after the 808. The sounds in something like the TR-8 are barely any different from what I have in my old MC-307 Groovebox. So I have to wonder is it the fact that most EDM music makers are not actually drummers with a kit to record so this is just what they use and are used to and or is it mostly a European thing? For example, you'll find USA west coast bass music, neurofunk, future funk, etc, using a lot different and more modern, more realistic full drum sounds and samples (via DAW) and not any "OG" sounding machines like this which seem to still permeate hiphop, house, and techno. I definitely enjoy both styles but am also very surprised by how much the vintage drum machine sounds have stayed around, as again they are not that much different than their original counter-parts. Lastly, I've yet to hear any modern drum machine, synth based or sample based, including Roland drum pads like the SPD-SX or SPD-30 have any sort of modern, fuller, drum sounds. I'm 50 btw, and after a 20 year hiatus am diving back into playing as a DJ-Drummer. My IG is HydBtr.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
808s are classic sounds like a Stratocaster through a Marshall. It just works.
@oldowl4290
@oldowl4290 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Yes, it does but also consider that it “just works” mainly because that’s all you’ve heard for 40 years. We’ve all been conditioned to it. I’m heavily exploring new sounds with grit, dirt, glitch, detuned, gated, etc. I’ve never used drum machines much because I’ve always had real kits and also don’t really like pure electronic drum kits either. I like using triggers. I’ll be showcasing what I mean very soon. Also check out Sunhouse triggers. It’s a whole new world.
@Gmartin4049
@Gmartin4049 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. love the montage! well done dude. HA
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@kemek3000
@kemek3000 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's the coffee talking but that was an exceptionally fun episode. Keep up the great work.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Plexyglazz
@Plexyglazz 3 жыл бұрын
The stock footage video was a very disturbing match to your Royalty Free Music Tracks From Only One Dollar Downtempo AF Orchestral Glo-Fi Ballad. I definitely need a drink to recover from that!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks & Cheers!!!
@mutantdisco87
@mutantdisco87 3 жыл бұрын
I laugh a lot with "What did they mess up this time"... Ah Roland... They were good 35 years ago...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Make Roland great again;)
@GizzyDillespee
@GizzyDillespee 2 жыл бұрын
The last jam had such a wholesome and optimistic stock music video!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
🧘🏻‍♀️ 🧘🏻 🧘🏻‍♂️
@drop7vogue
@drop7vogue Ай бұрын
Ahhh, a Bad Gear episode on a gear I'm looking for! Thank you for all of your videos 👌 It's been a month or so that I daily watch KZfaq videos or read stuff about drum machines, I'm looking for a simple but effective drum box to have fun with, with no menu diving to do sound design. I first took a look at the Drumbrute but the sounds are not for me, it seems that I'm an other Roland drum sounds guy 😅 I found some units for 150/200 bucks with the 7x7 expansion, hard to find something to compete in that price. The Volca Drum is interesting but not sure about the knobs solidity and have enough space around for my big fingers 😅 this conclusion helps me to take the right decision 👍 have a nice day!
@cooloutbeats
@cooloutbeats 3 жыл бұрын
I'll admit the 707 expansion is a bit pricey. However, it's worth noting that the Roland ACB tech isn't samples...even on sampled based units like the 707/727, Roland also modeled the non-pristine converters and signal path of the original units.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
True, but the samples are still samples (just like the few sample-based voices of the 808/909 kits) - they certainly emulate the post-digital signal path of them
@cooloutbeats
@cooloutbeats 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Perhaps there's some additional audio voodoo going on like crosstalk or aliasing...or just to offset R&D costs, it's built into the bottom line of the product to charge for the expansion since the TR8 doesn't import samples at all. Charging extra for little add-ons is common in software but still hardware manufacturers do this occasionally, like how Waldorf charges $100 just to enable a pitiful 60mb of sample loading into the Blofeld.
@cadra400
@cadra400 3 жыл бұрын
it seems they also modeled the phasing effect you get when playing snare and clap simultaneously, like on the TR-909 (where both circuits used the same noise source). apparently some people found that "annoying", but that's actually a very neat touch on roland's part.
@goo9637
@goo9637 3 жыл бұрын
The first drum machine that implements paid downloable content.... Roland always one step ahead !
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
The EA of gear;)
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 3 жыл бұрын
I just glue the EPROMs to the case.
@rundtomrasmus
@rundtomrasmus 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! I have one of these. I haven't tried any of the latter things you have done with it though. Awesome vid yet again.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@MD_is_me
@MD_is_me 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh... I see what you did there with the episode thumbnail and TNG. Well played.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! Classic color scheme!
@marcelfrehse
@marcelfrehse 3 жыл бұрын
ahhh my fridaily dosis of gear pr0n.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmh, I like pr0n;)
@marcelfrehse
@marcelfrehse 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz oh yeah ;)
@cthallborgtheineffable5583
@cthallborgtheineffable5583 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yes
@soepil
@soepil 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Am I the only one thinking that the jam at 6:10 has some serious Chris & Cosey-vibes to it? :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jazzseba
@jazzseba 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple musician! I see bad Gear video release, I watch it! Thanks!!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
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