Class 40 197 thrashes out of Dewsbury with 45 023 18/07/83

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jake atkinson

jake atkinson

16 жыл бұрын

40 197 drags a dead 45 023 on the 13.24 Llandudno to Scarborough service on the 18th July 1983. The wagon had failed (gosh, no?!) at Llandudno Jnc and '197 rescued the train.

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@marcushenno
@marcushenno 3 жыл бұрын
Wish i could go back and see this era of rail. So unique!
@MichaelTaylor-gt2ge
@MichaelTaylor-gt2ge 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolute magnificent start up out of Dewsbury! That is power, visible and audible, music to the ears! Brings tears to my eyes...
@aureol40012
@aureol40012 2 жыл бұрын
One of my dad’s favourite captures!
@andrewlong2397
@andrewlong2397 8 жыл бұрын
Just loved the way they whistled!
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 3 жыл бұрын
As a Shunter at Penzance, in the 70s and 80s, I can remember a 45 that failed 500 yards from the Station with a seized traction motor. The fitters had to grease the rail to drag the Loco out to the shed.
@mikechapman9094
@mikechapman9094 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for your time then and now allowing to watch this priceless footage LOVE THESE TRAINS,best wishes Michael Edinburgh
@michaeltaylor1219
@michaeltaylor1219 4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing, NOTHING like a centre or split box 40 giving it's all from a standing start! A sight to behold, a scene of power!
@nottudyug
@nottudyug 6 жыл бұрын
If ANY of you old loco fans whether your favourite was the 'Choppers' , 'Rats' , 'Duffs', 'Wagons', "Tractors' , 'Grids", 'Hoovers', 'Deltics' or even the Fantastic 'Whistlers' whatever your bag was and if you EVER get the chance take yourself off and go drive one!!! IT IS AN EXPERIENCE YOU"LL NEVER FORGET. Forget about jumping out of a plane with a parachute...... Sit in that seat , release that brake , blast that Horn, Drop down that window to smell and feel the power THEN open that throttle. PRICELESS.
@robertwilloughby8050
@robertwilloughby8050 3 жыл бұрын
And "Gurglers". Don't forget the "Gurglers"! (also known as "Goyles")
@dackesjulag
@dackesjulag 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I liked 45's. That certainly is a Impressive departure with the 40 👍👍
@aureol40012
@aureol40012 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, almost text book with that much weight behind it! To get it wound up that quick from a standing start without overloading or slipping is, as you say, impressive!
@dackesjulag
@dackesjulag 2 жыл бұрын
@@aureol40012 more than like a old school driver with his flat cap and roll ups who knew what he was doing 😉
@stephenpowell5912
@stephenpowell5912 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely Early 1980s must be 1983/84 time Love the sound of a class 40 Whistler and the Peak 45 ,Classic locos back in the day ❤️ Nothing like it nowadays .
@aureol40012
@aureol40012 2 жыл бұрын
July 1983! I was thirteen.
@paulbennett2902
@paulbennett2902 7 жыл бұрын
It was the way 197 pulls out with 023 still attached. Thrash all the way. Both classes were superb !
@superbracey
@superbracey 5 жыл бұрын
The day before my first birthday. Nothing more to add, other than, I wish these were still a common sight (and the old DMU seen at the beginning)!
@nigelmitchell351
@nigelmitchell351 5 жыл бұрын
The two heaviest types. Just love the spooling of the turbos.
@exb.r.buckeyeman845
@exb.r.buckeyeman845 3 жыл бұрын
139 tons I think for the 45.
@nigelmitchell351
@nigelmitchell351 3 жыл бұрын
@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 Yep and 133 for the EE.
@nigelmitchell351
@nigelmitchell351 3 жыл бұрын
@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 Loved both these types, but the EE was probably my absolute favourite, grew up with them on the west coast main line before the AC went up.
@nigelmitchell351
@nigelmitchell351 3 жыл бұрын
@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 If like me you like things on lots of wheels, take a look at the US centipedes, little Joe's and great Northern W1's. Oh and Bi Polars.
@HSTjohnny
@HSTjohnny 15 жыл бұрын
MY LORDZ! Absolute as thrashable as when the 185s depart Dewsbury. Nice video
@msmith4000
@msmith4000 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing these clips with us, I miss these loco's!
@AndrewNeilClarkson
@AndrewNeilClarkson 15 жыл бұрын
I spent many a happy day at Leeds around this time, mainly Saturdays, or I would buy a Day Rover ticket (cost a quid, and you didn't scratch off the date until the guard gripped you) In 1983 I was on a BR YTS scheme based at Leeds, and I spent some happy days behind some much missed traction, great memories! I remember there was some grafitti somewhere out Huddersfield way extolling the virtures of 40044, always brings a smile to see 40s in blue at work - hate Peaks too, so this vid a win-win!!
@vorlonb3
@vorlonb3 13 жыл бұрын
Love the good old 40 thrashing out of Dewsbury,showing the Peak what its made of. Must have been quite late as he didn't half go for it .Does remind me of happy times at Donny station with these old masters visiting from time to time. In between Meld, Tulyar and various regiments of course....
@adelestevens
@adelestevens 12 жыл бұрын
I miss all this! :-(
@TrainFan_95
@TrainFan_95 12 жыл бұрын
A great video. I love the class 40s!
@timwattison4419
@timwattison4419 4 жыл бұрын
40069 on the tanks, the exposed oil drain pipe along the skirting gave that away.
@Simonize41
@Simonize41 7 жыл бұрын
I was on this from Huddersfield. The wagon had failed, as they often did. I appreciate that we can't all like the same thing, but I hated 'Peaks.'
@andrewwilson5154
@andrewwilson5154 4 жыл бұрын
Beast! Shame theres a Bucket on the front 😉
@jasnbl
@jasnbl 13 жыл бұрын
@AndrewNeilClarkson I did the day rover thing too, back in mid/late 80's! Was excelent! the Morley tunnel was the best, used to stick head out of the window and just hoped didn't get head knocked off by someone else doing the same!! This was pre health and safety. I'm glad to say I still have a head!!!
@duxberry1958
@duxberry1958 12 жыл бұрын
hot summers days chasing trains around
@silverbullet1759
@silverbullet1759 13 жыл бұрын
Although the trains still retained their charm in the 80s, most of the stations looked like they had been entirely neglected since 1963.
@eurofreak74
@eurofreak74 14 жыл бұрын
@kevatcrewe totally agree - use to ove travelling on those trains and watching them from my grans at batley carr. We used to have a great view of the railway from batley to dewsbury and you could see the expresses one after the other with loads of coaches. I remember how spacious the coaches were- you could always find a seat and even remember the compartments. Now - you are forced to stand squashed. Sit in an uncomfortable carriage if you are lucky !!!
@AndrewNeilClarkson
@AndrewNeilClarkson 15 жыл бұрын
Peak Malpractice, they should have used the Old Dalby flask method to cure the Peak's woes!
@donaircooleone
@donaircooleone 16 жыл бұрын
Whats with the extra set of wheels
@cccecider
@cccecider 13 жыл бұрын
@Kromaatikse wasn't thinking straight, been out of touch for a few years with the train jobby..lol...loved the 40's
@prof.hectorholbrook4692
@prof.hectorholbrook4692 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@tpvalley
@tpvalley 16 жыл бұрын
I love br blue. Memories!
@Kromaatikse
@Kromaatikse 13 жыл бұрын
@tombaker1222 The outer axles only carry weight, but the others carry weight *and* are powered. If they didn't carry weight, they would just spin uselessly (like the old Cramptons). There's about 20 tons on each driven axle, and only about 8 tons on each of the outer axles.
@nicolawilloughby6249
@nicolawilloughby6249 8 жыл бұрын
The Reaks, sorry Peaks, weren't THAT bad. I remember seeing 45 138 storming out of Dewsbury at full chat - impressive sight indeed - so I have a soft spot for them. But they were smoky and smelly....
@EnidAgnusDei
@EnidAgnusDei 8 жыл бұрын
+nicola willoughby Peaks were horrid! EE forever!
@djwarren5081
@djwarren5081 6 жыл бұрын
nicola willoughby we used to go to Chesterfield, where they ran double headed with a brake tender on coal trains. I always had a soft spot for the earlier Class 44's that were still about when I was a lad.
@grahamknox9360
@grahamknox9360 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@tombaker1222
@tombaker1222 13 жыл бұрын
@bondmatty They weighed approx 135 Tonnes. The axle arrangement is 1co-co1 Meaning only the outermost 2 axles are loadbearing. The inside 6 are all powered - so it's a bit deceptive. 47s weigh approx 127 Tonnes and they're simply Co-Co. You're right, however, they're amongst the heavier of the old diesels - part of the reason they were retired, their weight made them underpowered.
@MrJezza31
@MrJezza31 14 жыл бұрын
@kevatcrewe yup the last train comp that was grat was gner
@yammyrob
@yammyrob 14 жыл бұрын
happy happy days
@Owentheguitarist666
@Owentheguitarist666 16 жыл бұрын
nice one mate =D
@Kromaatikse
@Kromaatikse 13 жыл бұрын
@cccecider Not strictly a double header, because only one loco is working.
@bondmatty
@bondmatty 14 жыл бұрын
Great clips these. Love the sound of the Class 40 - it's unmistakeable. That high pithced whine and whistle and that throaty low rumble. The 40's must have been quite heavy to warrant 8 axles - is this true?
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, about 130t compared to about 100-110t for most of the six-axle classes. You can look it up on Wikipedia.
@train4905
@train4905 4 ай бұрын
Oooh yea😊😊
@WalkingandRailways
@WalkingandRailways 14 жыл бұрын
agreed, well put :)
@tbds7788
@tbds7788 5 жыл бұрын
I wish saw that
@liselotteweiespulver6817
@liselotteweiespulver6817 11 жыл бұрын
RUDE class 40 ! summer of 83 - exactly in these days I was a 9 year old girl who was becoming an enthusiast :D hmm hm 30 years ago hmm hm
@gordonnoway6889
@gordonnoway6889 5 жыл бұрын
I remember old British Rail films where there were lots of girls spoting, we need more
@aureol40012
@aureol40012 13 жыл бұрын
@bondmatty 133 tons!
@Bevoin1970
@Bevoin1970 12 жыл бұрын
This comment just cracked me up! so glad you still have your head..LOL
@shed12345
@shed12345 16 жыл бұрын
woweee, dewsbury train station really hasnt changed that much tbh :/
@duxberry1958
@duxberry1958 12 жыл бұрын
Hell Fire
@shaunwakefield9793
@shaunwakefield9793 6 жыл бұрын
Someone educate me please ? When diesels are double headed as in this clip , do both diesels use power or just one ?
@aureol40012
@aureol40012 6 жыл бұрын
Shaun Wakefield the second loco had failed and wasn’t powering.
@shaunwakefield9793
@shaunwakefield9793 6 жыл бұрын
jake atkinson that's a lot of weight to pull. Thanks
@Matthew000481
@Matthew000481 12 жыл бұрын
Why do they look like the class 37?
@bonkeydollocks1879
@bonkeydollocks1879 4 жыл бұрын
See 8 comments above you question
@craignicklin4573
@craignicklin4573 11 жыл бұрын
no 37 look like 40, as 37 where a cost effective locomotive using class 40 parts for a lighter locomotive. ee offered a good price for locomotive that br where happy to pay for but didn't want the nose.
@WalkingandRailways
@WalkingandRailways 15 жыл бұрын
Lol! Or a 142/144 Pacer unit. In this day and age we have to take what traction weve got, to be fair have'nt we!! Unlike the 80s, they were just spoilt.
@kevatcrewe
@kevatcrewe 15 жыл бұрын
Today's trains & railway are utterly crap in every way. How the railways have gone downhill since BR was broken up is really beyond me - why fix something if it aint broke? BR needs to be brought back ASAP.
@shaunwakefield9793
@shaunwakefield9793 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Hughes your right and theses trains that only have four carriages what's that about. And people have to stand up.
@tombaker1222
@tombaker1222 13 жыл бұрын
@Kromaatikse That's what I meant to say. lol
@gw4pjq
@gw4pjq 12 жыл бұрын
@AndrewNeilClarkson I know you wrote this 3 years ago, but why or how can You "hate" PEAKS? I am not a fan because they rusted so bad, but I cant say I hate any of these now deceased machines. I didnt like what happened at Old Dalby either; what a humiliating end to a noble machine. That flask wasnt just put across the rails, it had piles driven 50ft into the ground behind it. Is there logic to your hate? The class 47 was a peak in a "light" body and look how successful they were.
@cidertom5140
@cidertom5140 9 жыл бұрын
wagon?????
@zedcharlie
@zedcharlie 8 жыл бұрын
+cidertom bashers name for peaks
@robertwilloughby8050
@robertwilloughby8050 5 жыл бұрын
@@zedcharlie Also Tanks were a common nickname for them, wasn't it?
@cccecider
@cccecider 14 жыл бұрын
double header
@mirvids5036
@mirvids5036 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful sounds ! Mid 70s to mid 80s were great days for railway enthusiasts. It's all too characterless and boring nowadays. No great British built stuff out there now... well very little.
@supafuckinmingster
@supafuckinmingster 7 жыл бұрын
Why on earth did the class 40 need 8 fucking axles?
@scopex2749
@scopex2749 7 жыл бұрын
Because of their weight 133 tons, they would exceed axle loading with only 6 axles!
@SteamboatWilley
@SteamboatWilley 11 жыл бұрын
EE>Sulzer lol
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