You’re a mean man. 😂

in gladius getting lethal and sustained on 5+ with bolter discipline and ignore cover and an additional ap from storm of fire. Land Raider gets no save without armor of contempt. I overkilled a stormsword, that smoked, by almost 2x its wounds, but that is a group of 6 from reserve and outside melta range.

I ran that combo in a practice game with the Firestorm detachment the other day (using the rules as we've seen them from the content creators). That combo is BRUTAL. Six Eradicators with a Biologis and six Aggressors with a Captain are going to be a staple for me in that force

Justifying my whinging that SM are back to their seal clubbing days of early 9th.

@@crazyshak4827 Master-Crafted bolter Captain or just standard Captain?

Was just going to post this. Very scary combo. Throw furor tactics on top for sustained hits 1 as well. Not many big targets will survive that.

@lyleugleman3773 I'm a new player and only just got my hands on a full eradicator squad. I'm facing a friend running an imperial titan and I've been simulating attacking it with the full squad plus lethal hits, sus 1 and melta 2. The odds of one shotting a titan are quite high!

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They can kill a baneblade class tank with 4+ invuln and smoke screen.... outside of melta range. They also easily killed Magnus from full hp, and other big targets.

what you want to take down with that? enemy titan?

I keep seeing people say they deploy a redemptor with a storm raven but how??? It says it can carry a dreadnought on its mag clamps. But that's the old dreadnought, this will be gone when codex comes out. So unless they change it when it comes out surely it's not legal even now.

The datasheet says it can carry 12 infantry models and 1 dreadnought. It might change in the codex but I'm not expecting it to.

That's the old school boxy one so it's not the same thing so that's not legal is it??? So I'd say if tt is removed when codex is out on Saturday then I guess I'm right if it dosnt and as we know the old one is gone then happy days il go out and buy a raven.

@@boozeybatman The Stormraven does not specify what kind of dreadnought it can transport. Transporting a Redemptor, Brutalis, or Ballistus is completely legal as it says it can transport a dreadnought *model*, meaning any model with the Dreadnought keyword, and not just the specific model named Dreadnought. If it did mean that you can only carry the boxnaught, as was the case in 9th edition, it would specify that it can only carry dreadnoughts with X amount of wounds. And the boxnaught is not being removed from the codex.

@@boozeybatman only thing it cares about is the keyword dreadnought

fr though, I'm so devastated as I just saw 6 of them for sale on etsy for around 35 dollars, I tried to get them but my card was locked and the next day once it was unlocked the listing was removed. 😢

Ah yeah, good point. Sorry for the error there!

Specifically Characters right? If you have attached leader models that arent character you can take it on those guys

​@@mintw4241Exactly right. That's why cryptothralls work the way they do when you attach them to a unit.

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Hes shitting out content faster than he can wipe it seems. Lots of errors in his videos since he's been spamming vids when 10th launched.

That could be good

This is the path I'm going. With the Firestorm Assault Force, they combine nicely with several of the stratagems and attaching a character isn't hugely important for them.

For under 400 points, its really not that expensive and it's made it into EVERY list I do for salamanders. A lot of people pair a biologis and them into a LR redeemer, but that easily adds 100 points onto that. The repulsor, in my mind, is better for this unit as it keeps them safe from being charged, especially if they're blasting dreads and monsters. It also has its own slew of guns, including 18 S4 shots, which can help clear chaff, and the S10 and S12 laser guns for helping destroy big stuff.

Or repulsor for emergency embarkation for melee threats

@@rigzcygen im not a fan of the primaris vehicles tho... I wouldnt play them cause i think they are ugly compared to a landraider ^^

​@@rigzcygenThey wouldn't fit in a repulsor like that sadly

Try the same with captain in crusader

I think at a certain tier on patreon, he does just that. (I think it's the 10 dollar tier)

@@sabinm.jarvis5735 oh I gotta check that out

My experience with a group of 6 fully buffed in gladius: overkilled Magnus, baneblade class tank, 2 hekaton land fortress. All from reserve and outside melta range.

statistically, the 16% reduction max from being s11/12 vs most targets at their volume doesn't matter that much given their other roles and great ap. As notaninquisitor said, they're going to melt most things they shoot at regardless

At that rate, you're better off slapping down 6 assault centurions! S10 melee, sustained hits 2 against relevant targets and 6 twin linked meltas AND 18 twin linked rapid fire 3 bolter shots. That's a lot of dakka if you rapid ingress them in and then assault them up The eradicators can always fit in landraiders, repulsors (this one is my fav for them), stormravens, and thus always have a way forward on the board. Centurions at 4"+1d6 and they cant fit into smything at max squad? Not so much

Can't put them in an impulsor

Only the multi-melta can get the +1 to wound, but it's super situational. You'd be forced to choose between melta 2 and the heavy due to enemy movement. You'd be lucky to not have to move them every turn.

​@@william9557 why only multi Melta? Both guns have heavy. But yes, your opponent is a big dumb if they see you move up and say you're going to stand there until next turn to get the +1 to both.

in the new codex Tor Garadon doesn't give lethal hits anymore

What's difficult about them?

@@LordCrate-du8zm They consist of two central parts, each half of the torso and a leg, with a pin in the middle that runs all the way through the model. You slide the rest of the parts over that pin, but none of those parts actually click or settle into place until you put on the capstone, which is the meltagun. Specifically, a teeny tiny circular dent in the melta gun that the top of the pin barely fits in. This means that you need to keep all the parts in place while blindly trying to push a gun in place and then also have that gun be angled correctly so that you can properly connect it to the second hand. In short, it's very fiddly and I recommend just glueing the bastards.

@@takoaful Oh wow that's awful

I feel you, just assembled them last night. After a minute of struggling with the first figure, the center pin broke on me. I snapped and just glued the rest.

"We NEED to sell more Space Marines." "Overpower them and reduce the points, can you hear the money printing?"

I have used them against Knights with a Biologis, yeah they don’t even bracket them, can’t even kill an Armiger reliably.

@@chriseash6497 then you aren't using them right

@@chriseash6497 I killed baneblade class tanks with them and that is with smokescreen and 4+ invuln and being outside melta range

Thunderstrike 🗿 Every list starts with lieu with combi so that is a potential as well. 5's are ass

You’d be surprised. I had a squad of 3 almost kill a Knight Crusader. I think if they had higher strength or Anti-Vehicle we’d actually be in the realm of them being too strong. It’s already kinda crazy that we’ll be able to make them S10 in the Firestorm Assault Force. Plus they get to reroll everything, including damage, against monsters or vehicles

​@@CuriousLumenwoodS10 is nice but the big powerful stuff is still T11/T12. I wish they could be S11 to wound most of 3, some on 4 and T12 on 5 but with plus 1 to wound to help in T12 case via buffs.

Drop pods can't take gravis

I don't get what GW tried to do with meltas this edition. We now have vehicles that can mow down infantry and infantry cannot do jack shit against vehicles, so any infantry based faction will just lose out on their anti tank and get steamrolled by skew lists.

@OrigIswed it's because GW fundamentally didn't understand the problem with vehicle toughness and why certain weapons were designed to be anti vehicle weapons decades ago. Back when armor facings were a thing, you needed high strength weapons to have a chance to penetrate the armor ie the lascannons s9, the melta s8, after a hit was scored you then rolled another dice and added it to see if it caused any damage, this fundamentally made certain weapons impossible to damage vehicles with ie bolt guns and lasguns, and because vehicle did not have an armor save it made having specific heavy weapons necessary. Then 8th came along and took away armor facings in favor of a flat toughness, wounds and giving vehicles armor saves, however with the changes to ap and damage on weapons this fundamentally didn't work. It was exaggerated in 9th and now in 10th we have vehicles that are super tough with only really lascannons ir their equivalent being effective. They should have returned to the vehicle damage table but simplified it and we wouldn't be having these issues.

Yes, absolutely - it usually doesn't make sense, but for some situations (e.g. getting sustained AND lethal hits) if often can.

@auspextactics thanks for clarifying. I would rarely reroll successes, but it's good to know it is an option where it makes sense to do so. Really appreciate your content!

It was 45 on release so...

With the codex, you'll also be able to add an Apothecary to the unit. So jumping out of a razorback with re-rolls and sustained hits if you give bolter discipline (or whatever its new name is) to the Apothecary in a Gladius detachment.

With the rerolls? Yes, yes they are better.

Devastators can get re-rolls too. Can attach a apoth biologist (new codex), can get oath re-rolls, and can take a cheap razorback for re-roll wounds when they disembark. And more shots. @@musicalcharge

Unless you play Salamander Detachment and just role them in in a Land Raider

Or a Repulsor, yea. But a squad of eradicator in a repulsor vs devastators in a razorback; the devs + razorback cost about the same as the repulsor alone. Would need to calculate for points equivelance@@Scoopa

Isn't Caladius Custodes though?

@@xxalsinusxx2038 it is yes but it’s a d6+2 so basically a melta to 48” :p

text to the right of it says 3 rounds of shooting vs X

lol how many games did you run them? tbh they need +1 to wound stuff like firestorm strat or the thunderstrike speeder

True I found wounding on 5s with the reroll never panned out in my games I used them in.

​@@zaganim3813 I've used them twice with the index rules. They're great against T9 single model vehicles, sure. And I'm confident they will be better in certain new detachments next week as you've mentioned. But that's not quite "the last word in anti tank" as the radio man props them up to be in this video.

This is the same experience I have with them. I have played over a dozen games with them and they don’t do squat. Four times I have lost the entire unit to Overwatch, not counting losing most of the squad. One game against Tyranids claims both squads I ran in the the SAME TURN! Toughness 6 isn’t a good threshold without another way to survive, the weapons that are used against them are ap-2 / 3 and do 2-3 wounds with enough shots that they lose significant models.

No.

No.

No.

Unless weapon has the precision key word

@@adudeontheweb0 then that is decided by your opponent, not you.

Are they not? 60% win rate is broken

no

@6:30 the facts disagree with you ;)