Wooo deployment, the phase where I know I lost before the game even started
@bilbostomper6 ай бұрын
I am so bad at deployment
@FortuneFaded20066 ай бұрын
List building for me. Turns out playing the units you enjoy in a lore friendly way is a recipe for getting repeatedly stomped
@utarefson96 ай бұрын
@@FortuneFaded2006Don't worry, they've been trying to balance the game for 30 years, they'll get it right eventually
@AAhmou6 ай бұрын
@@utarefson9 It'd be nice if they weren't completely changing the system every 4 years.
@codyott19826 ай бұрын
So, I have a tendency to win MOST games (about 80% of fun games, and about 70% against the local competitive meta), enough that people pay me to coach them and I'm trying to start a business for it. A brief FREE lesson, so if you want it, keep reading. Plan for second turn always. Always deploy behind cover, or at least put your key units out of los. First players first turn should be a nightmare, as they have to poke out from safety but won't have targets/will have minimal targets. In my games, first player loses far more often than second. Second, deploy all your throw away units FIRST. This way your opponent is more likely to drop key units before you, so you can counter them. Only worry about where he deploys key units, or others that have los. You have a 9" bubble they can't deep strike (most of the time, a few units come in closer) so for screening if you keep units 17" away from each other they can't deep strike in-between them. And the last part of FREE, don't worry about deploying a unit on your home objective if it's not safe, you can't score on it until second turn anyway, so you just need to move to it in your first turn. Bonus tip. Deep strike can be a massive boon, or folly depending on use. New players often use it wrong, hurting their game. Too many units arriving from deep strike/strat res can actually hurt you. Sometimes it's best to start them on the field, move from cover to cover until time to engage. If you aren't good at deep strike, it's not the best idea. If you want to get good at it, start with one unit, don't rapid ingress it, and when you get using it down, add a second, but use rapid ingress on one of them. Once you get two down, you can increase it again, as much as you want, until you hit your limit (half your list).
@Crackbone1236 ай бұрын
You know it's a slow warhammer news day when Auspex Tactics is actually doing a video about tactics.
@HighMarshalBiggusDickus6 ай бұрын
He used to do more tactics related vids. Our homie is just chasing that bread.
@user-KR3866 ай бұрын
It's a good video. I am a new player, so I appreciate this.
@frogblasttheventcore694 ай бұрын
It's pretty good when it's a slow news day. Makes us focus on painting our existing models instead of collectively fawning on whatever new stuff comes out.
@Jaybirderino6 ай бұрын
Infiltrators + Redeploys - string out your infiltrators to deny the enemy infiltrators, then redeploy them to a better position after all deployment is done!
@marcialrodriguez62856 ай бұрын
THIS!
@Kritical_Blink6 ай бұрын
Idk why I never thought of this! Thank you for the tip
@thedeathleaper2009Ай бұрын
This screwed me in a game the other day. It’s a great play
@alexandermoschos78246 ай бұрын
we need a video about how to set up a table, or different ways you can set them up
@cameronwoods-reynolds47936 ай бұрын
He has a video about that! Go to playlists: how to play: scroll down to the bottom!
@alexandermoschos78246 ай бұрын
@@cameronwoods-reynolds4793 it was an introductory one, we need one more in depth
@Grastiars16 ай бұрын
I lose most my games on the basis of “I just wanna have a nice fun game of Warhammer” and I play a guy with a Tourny Ready army
@reavern6 ай бұрын
Normally I deploy by-the-book… but after I added Land Raiders to my Black Templars army in 10e, sometimes I’ll deploy my Land Raider first and place it up front as an intimidation tactic. This usually causes my opponent to deploy defensively back in their DZ to keep their units out of range of the Land Raider’s “danger zone” for both its weapons and movement/deploy/charge range: 24” to be safe. If my opponent does deploy defensively, I’ll deploy the rest of my units as far forward as possible and try to take all the midfield objectives in Turn 1, giving me an early lead with primary points, which tends to lure my opponent out. Even if my opponent has heavy-hitters that could statistically destroy a Land Raider in one turn, I’ll risk forward-deploying my Land Raider because odds are good it’ll survive, and fortune favours the bold! Only if my opponent has double the firepower to destroy a Land Raider, like 2 tanks (or the equivalent for other factions), will I be more cautious and deploy my LR further back and behind cover.
@QisforQadim6 ай бұрын
Ages and ages ago there was a push for blind deployment. Running a divider between the halves of the map and deploying your troops in secret. Played it a few times that way, much more fun. Also played with simultaneous fire or alternating fire. Those changes removed a lot of the core problems with 40K. Right now way too much of the game is determined entirely by the two dice rolls of who deploys first, and who goes first.
@noobpaints61146 ай бұрын
Coming from Yugioh, it’s nice to know there’s at least a second dice roll that determines who wins. 😂
@CuriousLumenwood4 ай бұрын
It’s so funny to me when people armchair dev. The idea of hidden deployment and alternating shooting sounds fun for maybe one or two games but I can immediately see the flaws. There’s a reason companies don’t let random goobers design their games.
@hollyd89894 ай бұрын
@Desm0708 you will be able to describe those flaws then?
@aaronabel4756Ай бұрын
Oh you mean like an actual war game?
@thedeathleaper2009Ай бұрын
I’ve always wondered if alternating activations would work in 40k. Infinity is a game that uses that mechanic and its a very good game but plays much differently
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK6 ай бұрын
I had a game recently where my drukhari opponent was worried about my shooting and charge threat, so clumped up his entire deployment into a corner... that was not only within wraith charge range, but they managed to engage about half his army in melee outright in the corner, and then just held them there all game
@elispiller26866 ай бұрын
What army were you playing?
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK6 ай бұрын
@@elispiller2686Necrons
@dfly274856 ай бұрын
@@elispiller2686probably a good one
@DamienJones776 ай бұрын
hey Auspex, I thought to ask if you could make a video about the stretched toughness in 10th edition? It used to be everyone sorta knew that t8 was analgous to a tank, t7 a light APC and t4 a space marine. Some of those have remained the same but I'd be curious to see how you'd break it down and analyse it. Maybe some mathhammer about how many lascannons, heavy bolters or melta shots it would have taken to kill X unit in 9th compared to 10th? Either way, your hard work on this channel is mightily appreciated.
@matiasyannuzzi96556 ай бұрын
I find it that hiding some units in Strategic Reserves and bringing them up on your 2nd round within your own deployment zone can be useful occasionally. For example, if you have an Imperial Guard list with 2 Rogal Dorns, some Artillery and a bunch of infantry (along with a few cheap Leman Russ variants), putting all your vehicles out of line of sight can be tricky, and if you go first against a shooty opponent then you have to risk your Rogal Dorns out of hiding or keep them out of sight where they would also contribute nothing to the battle in that round. However, if you put them in Strategic Reserves then you have more room in your DZ to hide the rest of your vehicles, and then you bring them up where you have line of sight to a tasty target. That way they're safe from damage on the first round, and in the second round you can use their ability to save them from the worst attacks.
@shaanreed16806 ай бұрын
Deploy into your bed Auspex! Please!
@TheMagicalPinata6 ай бұрын
Did you leave something there for him?
@joheric88866 ай бұрын
Almost as old and tired as you are. Try again edgelord @@theviewbot
@shaanreed16806 ай бұрын
You really got me with that one,@@TheMagicalPinata .
@larrypotter20156 ай бұрын
I think Auspex may single handedly be teaching me how to play this game lol
@TheCODlovr6 ай бұрын
one thing that has worked for me with world eaters is putting my big punchy units down first. At times it makes the other player put his big punchy units down to counter them. Since i won't have the drops to wait out the others player, i try to bait out his heavy hitters with my own.
@JubsRM6 ай бұрын
Gotta love it when a new auspex tactics video comes out just as I'm finishing watching another!
@codyott19826 ай бұрын
It's so easy to lose a game during deployment. That's one of two parts where you can lose the game before it begins. List building is harder to lose the game in, but deployment is easy to lose in. Don't depend on getting first turn. Deploy like you will go second everytime. Keep everything tucked away safe, but capable of poking out to take shots. That way if he does go first he moves into your fire, but if you go first you can hopefully get a few targets in los. Sacrificial units should be the only things in your opponents view when he finishes his first move step. Do not depend on durability to weather the storm. Plus, if you go second, rapid ingress gets that much better. Now you can use your rapid ing units in turn 2 instead of turn 3 (can't be brought on turn one, has to be his second move phase end, so if you go first, they aren't gonna do anything until turn 3).
@graememitchell35296 ай бұрын
Most important phase.
@TheAdventureMilk6 ай бұрын
As a newcomer to the hobby, this video is MEGA helpful. Thanks!!
@ryannelson77196 ай бұрын
Loving the tactics videos for us newer players! Thanks mate
@Daniel-lh4rmАй бұрын
Me: randomly places models in a big line. My opponent: measures distances, doesnt deploy on line, takes time to think where to place models.
@user-KR3866 ай бұрын
Thanks for this awesome video. I really appreciated this as a new player.
@Dave_Sheard6 ай бұрын
Noob player here, I made the mistake of deploying my ratlings on a midfield objective, thinking they'd be safe out of line of sight. This actually did my opponent a favour as it gave his crusader squad with grimaldus something to charge, giving them free movement. On top of that, after they wiped the squad on the charge they got even more free movement consolidating onto the objective, basically handing them a whole bunch of movement for free that they otherwise wouldn't have had until turn 2. They made the midfield objective in turn 1 as a result and I had to spend the rest of the game scraping them off it.
@EliteDarkAssassin6 ай бұрын
If they don't have infiltrators, deploy yours last to block key units. If they do have infiltrators deploy yours first for board presence.
@GurrockGamingАй бұрын
As someone who's only been playing 6ish months this video is super helpful. I play friendly games with a small group in the neighborhood and I tend to get mowed down by shooting t1-t2 before I can do anything. (I play Orks, usually fight Black Templars, death guard or Custodes) Thought it was my list but this helped me learn my deployment has also been garbo. Time to (hopefully) clean up my game haha
@Smilomaniac6 ай бұрын
I suggested you do this a few years back in 9th and I'm happy to see you got around to it. If I were to do it a little differently, I would've maybe worked with your friend Mordian Glory and taken some bird's eye shots of his table with some concrete examples.
@joheric88866 ай бұрын
Bro, nobody cares what you think.
@Smilomaniac6 ай бұрын
@@joheric8886 Well no one with an IQ below 60, although people with sub 70 will tell me they don't care, despite them taking the time to write out the reply.
@Sassafras17776 ай бұрын
@@joheric8886bro what? He’s just throwing out some criticism. Isn’t that what the comments are for? Chill out my dude
@joheric88866 ай бұрын
@@Smilomaniac you made an attempt, but it was poor. Try again?
@joheric88866 ай бұрын
@@Sassafras1777 that's what I thought.....
@NoireRequiemXIX6 ай бұрын
Auspex always does the best video I need just before games come up😭
@jacobswaim16 ай бұрын
Just had my first tournament yesterday where this cost me a couple of games, thanks for putting this out!
@devinknox63286 ай бұрын
If I know I have a scout move a near by cover I'd put a bait squad out at the very edge of my deployment zone. Then after my opponent has committed to board presence over there I simply use that to pull them back. It also worked with Phantasm before the nerf, and can work with Prince Yriel's redeployment ability.
@g-monk27756 ай бұрын
Great video. Could you do a tactical defense vs the blink armies, aka Grey knights, or Necrons?
@arandomsquidward77616 ай бұрын
My first match of 40k i learned tau more than any faction rely on good deployment for first turn positioning, let's just say we got another match in and my opponent spent the remaining 30 minutes before the store closed explaining how i could have deployed better.
@PoYi-fi1zt6 ай бұрын
The amount of content you pump out is amazing!
@UnalloyedMalenia6 ай бұрын
Deployment is the most important part of the game. If you deploy badly you'll lose. Simple as that
@noranomics6 ай бұрын
Wait wait wait I need a plan? Phew this game is hard
@user-hf6vf5gc5n6 ай бұрын
Yeah.. It's pretty complex once you get to higher level stuff. Don't even get me started on the list building!
@TheCityofTownsville6 ай бұрын
Perfect! Just what I needed.
@saarlann6 ай бұрын
The 3 inch Deepstrike error will be forever known as Folgers Faulty. 😅😅😅
@rasmussap3 ай бұрын
Great video!
@rifleman303_95 ай бұрын
Is a bug player who likes the vanguard detachment and uses a bunch of infiltrators. I would not recommend deploying within range of an objective because of the opponent has secondary that involves taking you off of it. You're giving them free points. Better to set up near it where they can't do anything about you scoring primary or secondary on it. Come turn two
@Knightofday336 ай бұрын
This is off topic but does anyone know what happened to the towering keyword? And also I can’t find the Titanic keyword description anywhere? Sorry for the off topic question but I appreciate any help finding these rules, thanks.
@Jallen10106 ай бұрын
Towering was changed in the September dataslate, so now it just means the model can "toe into" ruins and be able to see through them rather than have to be wholly within. The old rule was that Towering models could see and be seen through all ruins all the time, that is no longer the case. Titanic is a bit more muddled as the rules are scattered over several different sections / updates. My best understanding is that Titanic models can move over enemy models as if they weren't there (except other Titanic models), don't have to test for Desperate Escape, can't use Overwatch, and certain strategems cost more CP for them. For future, check through the core rules, dataslate and faction index using the search function in your pdf viewer of choice, I answer 95% of my own queries that way.
@Knightofday336 ай бұрын
@@Jallen1010 thanks
@DungeonMagister4 ай бұрын
Might try hidden deployment
@RiffSilverthe1andonly6 ай бұрын
Uses redeploy ability cause restart button better than being good the first time
@Varg2356 ай бұрын
10th edition is still insulting to me. Maybe I'll start playing 40k again ( after 30 yrs ) with the 11th edition.
@utarefson96 ай бұрын
Deployment is often more important than your decisions during battle, one of the aspects i dislike about 40k. @AuspexTactics , can you please do a video about the tactics of going first vs going second?
@matthew37196 ай бұрын
Alms for the algorithm god.
@lordlynkz6 ай бұрын
I spend most of my time thinking of deployment...
@AndrewS-fe8ng6 ай бұрын
The GW system fails on so many levels.
@AncientIrishCelt6 ай бұрын
Comment for the comment God.
@joheric88866 ай бұрын
Finally, someone who isn't crying.
@rathernotpick71836 ай бұрын
Comment for the algorithm.
@Damnedlegion40k6 ай бұрын
Add a comment...
@user-hf6vf5gc5n6 ай бұрын
Wot'chu doin' all da way down 'ere eh?
@NerdLantern5 ай бұрын
I disagree the main issue is game balance.
@cooljoe5006 ай бұрын
deploying became a joke when they got rid of template weapons.
@Akillesursinne6 ай бұрын
No?
@joheric88866 ай бұрын
Almost as much of a joke as you are. Continue crying, it fuels the warp.
@user-hf6vf5gc5n6 ай бұрын
What?
@cooljoe5006 ай бұрын
@@Akillesursinne yes, not getting punished for cramming you units together behind a building. looks crap on the table as well.
@Akillesursinne6 ай бұрын
@@cooljoe500 ... Okay? Well, it seems the game is a lot more balanced these days than in the past, looking at win rates.
@reallylionbastard6 ай бұрын
Remember, vehicles explode on death but also fet lonely if they dont haveeat frens nearby. Put your tank in an infantry squad today!😊