Australian General John Monash I WHO DID WHAT IN WW1

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John Monash was one of the most capable commanders of World War 1 but his rise to fame didn't come unopposed.
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@johnscott2463 5 жыл бұрын

My grandfather served in the 3rd Division (Artillery) under Monash. I am very proud of both of them

@MM-yi9zn 11 ай бұрын

That was an exemplary coverage of Sir John Monash an Australian hero.

@richardgeering7074 6 жыл бұрын

6:13 "Australia is a nation of sportsmen, we like to see the score on the board" John Monash

@OldFellaDave 6 жыл бұрын

Still the best WW1 series ever made ;)

@nate-otero 3 жыл бұрын

Anzacs ❤️

@comradesomo 6 жыл бұрын

It's also worth mentioning Monash's postwar lobbying for the building of the Shrine of Remembrance in Melbourne and his personal input in its construction. He did not live to see its completion, but it remains an architectural icon of Melbourne and serves as the primary location for services on ANZAC Day in Victoria.

@shoominati23 6 жыл бұрын

Have some pictures of world war one memorabilia from inside it when I was over there (I'm a sandgroper)

@docwinters 6 жыл бұрын

he also believed that the building was a memorial, not a tourist attraction

@docwinters 2 жыл бұрын

@Tom Martyr 100% he did

@bullterror5 2 жыл бұрын

John Monash holds shared responsibility for the Military catastrophe known as Gallipoli! He isn't someone to honour or remember, except for his mistakes so they are not repeated! 💥 His university & those from his university who are working at the Shrine are connected to Organised Crime, ISIS, Hezbollah, Hamas & Al Qaeda! And they've been committing acts of Terrorism all over the world during the last 8 years! 💥 That fkn shrine & that fkn Monash University & everything to fkn do with John Monash is neck deep in Organised Crime, Corruption & Terrorism! 💥 And that's all that Shrine will ever represent now... 💥

@bullterror5 2 жыл бұрын

The rotten Australian Government, the rotten Veterans Affairs & probably the rotten Monash University had something to do with it too, went off and built a $100 Million Dollar Memorial in France & named it after John fkn Monash - and they did that before spending a single fkn cent processing current & backlogged Veterans Insurance, Compensation & Medical Claims! 💥 John Monash has probably been the most TOXIC & DESTRUCTIVE influence on Australia, it's Defence Forces, its Governments, its Universities, its Big Business sector & the general population than anything Australia has ever experienced! 💥 Just fkn wait until these people from the fkn Shrine are answering questions on the Global Stage of Justice in Europe for what they have fkn done with their Terrorism & with Putin against the Ukraine! 💥

@baronmunro1494 6 жыл бұрын

Couple of interesting tidbits: Monash claimed he met Ned Kelly, and he was living in Jerilderie when the Jerilderie bank was robbed. If he was indeed within the town when the bank was robbed, he almost certainly met Ned Kelly as Ned Kelly took the entire town hostage in the town pub during the heist. The use of tanks and aircraft together is just the tip of the iceberg for the Battle of Hamel, and I wish this video was another 5 minutes longer so that Indy could talk about it in more detail. The newer lighter tanks were used to transport supplies to the front, ammo supply drops were used (one of the first planned uses of air drops for supply), and hot meals were delivered to the soldiers during the battle. Monash was the perfect combination of approaching warfare from an engineering perspective and having compassion for his troops.

@markfryer9880 6 жыл бұрын

Yes I can certainly appreciate the value of receiving a hot meal when out in the field on exercises. Does wonders for putting energy back into a tired body, so the effectiveness of having a hot meal mid battle must have been (and still is) quite substantial for the troops and dismaying to the enemy.

@zlatko8051 5 жыл бұрын

Everyone is gangsta until Ned Kelly says who he is

@gloryglory5688 Жыл бұрын

I believe that he stated that he met Ned when he came to buy a horse from his family, so I think it was before Ned went postal

@JohnWilliams-iw6oq Жыл бұрын

It was Monash who's tactics were the forerunner to the German blitzkrieg, the strategic use of mobile forces, artillery and infantry as a complete unit. Another general of the time who has been largely forgotten was Gordon Bennett who's loyalty to his men earned him a great deal of respect. His efforts to continue looking after his men after the war were magnificent. Bennett actually spent time on the front line in Gallipoli where he took turns sniping at the enemy.

@coventryboy68 6 жыл бұрын

"same as me"... way to make everything about you, Indy.

@Aramis419 6 жыл бұрын

John Byng same as me, too!

@impalabeeper 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe he sees himself in Monash, same as me.

@pauldirac4718 6 жыл бұрын

John Byng although that's where the similarities ended.

@SirDamned 6 жыл бұрын

300 episodes later, finally sneaks it in. The long con

@RahellOmer 6 жыл бұрын

And the way he pointed to himself with his thumb...

@grogery1570 6 жыл бұрын

This barely scratches the achievements of Monash. After reading his book "Australian victories in France 1918" I didn't notice him trying to promote himself but heaped praise upon his soldiers, especially the courage of US troops who fought at Hamel who had limited experience but no shortage of courage. One of the reasons the Australian government did not want troops or Monash returned quickly to Australia was the fear of a revolt against the government similar to what had occurred in Russia. Monash received requests to lead an uprising during the post war recession but always remained loyal to democratic government. He could have lead such a revolt as he was called upon to restore order in Melbourne during a police strike. He placed a newspaper ad asking for veterans to serve under his command and they responded in droves promptly restoring order. Monash also designed a breach loading cannon, stole German brown coal technology and recruited German engineers to build coal fired power in Victoria. The list does go on but it is hard to over sell Monash's abilities

@markfryer9880 6 жыл бұрын

Yes reading the book about Monash, I was particularly taken by the veterans response to his newspaper advertisement. I can't recall the numbers exactly but men dropped what they were doing to answer his call to action and the looting and rioting stopped dead in its tracks because Monash had trained men on every corner and patrolling in cars. The response from his men to the call to action absolutely scared criminal and politicians alike, that Monash could have men out on every street corner within hours. If Monash had so desired, he could have taken over Melbourne by force or called for the government of the state to resign or he could have taken over via the ballot box with plenty of support.

@anthonyeaton5153 6 ай бұрын

@@markfryer9880 Sycophancy on stilts old boy.

@goodshipkaraboudjan 5 жыл бұрын

This man literally wrote the winning formula for WW1.

@alanbstard4 3 жыл бұрын

not really

@saiahr5463 3 жыл бұрын

you again

@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын

@@alanbstard4 yes really

@giantcrayfish2866 2 жыл бұрын

@@alanbstard4 big surprise your only argument for this is “he was jewish” judging by your other comments.

@alanbstard4 2 жыл бұрын

@@giantcrayfish2866 he did not write the winning formula for ww1

@lexington476 6 жыл бұрын

Oh, now we totally need to see Indy demonstrate his piano prowess.

@thebog11 5 жыл бұрын

He's already played guitar for us, demonstrating the "Hoetzendorf Blues". I think there's a clip of him singing Dion's "The Wanderer", as well. And he's actually mentioned in the Wikipedia of Anders Wendin, a Swedish singer-songwriter, credited with piano and organ.

@tomm9118 6 жыл бұрын

Australian General and Hero. Had a huge impact on the war and should be appreciated for what he did. Thanks Indy for this episode.

@alganhar1 6 жыл бұрын

Amongst those Brits who actually study WWI... Sir John Monash is very much appreciated. As is the Australian Corps... not to mention the Canadian Corps and Sir Arthur Currie. The problem is it tends to be the Canadians and Australians did everything., and ignore the British involvement... as if every single British Division was useless... Which they were not.

@phantasyboy1031 4 жыл бұрын

@@alganhar1 Mate in the The Great War it was the opposite. It was the Brits that got all the glory got all the attention. The Anzacs and Canadians were always pushed aside because of stupid arrogant hierarchy. The Australians New Zealanders Canadians were the countries that were ignored by England and their involvement. Those countries that gave up their jobs, farewelled their families all to go to war thousands of miles ,and be slaughtered by hierarchy rubbish. I have nothing against the honest Tommies I feel for them and their families. Thanks to complete arseholes like Haig and other high officers of England they fed those innocent men to the machineguns without a care in the world and they did the same to those Australians New Zealanders Canadians who had a much smaller population then England.

@anthonyeaton5153 6 ай бұрын

@@alganhar1 I only wish that Australians would study THE WAR instead of just the Australian part in it.

@knackers2773 6 жыл бұрын

While the troops were waiting to get back home at the end of the war, Monash organised it for the soldiers to aid local tradesmen to learn their craft for transitioning into civilian life. He also hired vets over others when he was heading civil engineering projects in Australia. Most people ignorantly gloss over the battle of hamel a familiar one is siting Currie battle, but don't realise that Currie did not invent it either they both used their innovation to intertwine strategies to suit their outcome hamel was to a certain extent more detailed it was those little 2%-5% strategies that become cruces in battle, someone scoffed about the use of air drops, no less than 100,000 rounds of ammunition were dropped in close proximity to the intended machine gunner target on the frontline(it took 2men to carry 1000 rounds), the use of using poison gas with smoke gas then during the progressing battle using only smoke though the Germans associate it now with poison gas had to put their mask on reducing vision during an advancement. It's those little attention to detail that seperated that battle from others before.

@hughmckendrick3018 3 жыл бұрын

I have been fortunate enough to have travelled to Australia twice. States I visted, Queensland, NSW and Victoria. Wonderful country and wonderful people. Not surprised they could turn out a John Monash!

@TonyAdams1969 8 ай бұрын

I'm a born & bred Melburnian and I must say that Monash is still revered today. I study at the university named in his honour. We have roads, a local Council & buildings all named after him. His face is also on Australian currency (our $100 note). 100 years later, John Monash is as famous in Australia as ever 😊

@hughmckendrick3018 8 ай бұрын

@@TonyAdams1969 Rightly so.

@anthonyeaton5153 6 ай бұрын

I visited Australia twice, first and last! Couldn’t stand the smug shallow Australians.

@krishutchinson1739 5 ай бұрын

@@anthonyeaton5153 Hey Anthony, f***k you! Most poms are nice, except the whinging ones like you...

@OldFellaDave 6 жыл бұрын

Some of what people attribute his 'egotism' to, and yes he had his fair share, was his campaign to ensure that Australian Successes in battle were attributed to Australian forces rather than be printed in the press as 'British' victories/achievements. What many non-Australians fail to realise is - we had only gained our independence and Australia itself only came into existence in 1901. before that we were only a collection of separate colonies. Monash had a keen eye for history and wanted to help forge a new national identity during this global conflict. Probably the biggest difference between Monash and other Commanders, Strategists and Planners was his philosophy, best summed up by his most famous quote "... the true role of infantry was not to expend itself upon heroic physical effort, not to wither away under merciless machine-gun fire, not to impale itself on hostile bayonets, nor to tear itself to pieces in hostile entanglements-(I am thinking of Pozières and Stormy Trench and Bullecourt, and other bloody fields)-but on the contrary, to advance under the maximum possible protection of the maximum possible array of mechanical resources, in the form of guns, machine-guns, tanks, mortars and aeroplanes; to advance with as little impediment as possible; to be relieved as far as possible of the obligation to fight their way forward; to march, resolutely, regardless of the din and tumult of battle, to the appointed goal; and there to hold and defend the territory gained; and to gather in the form of prisoners, guns and stores, the fruits of victory." He was aggressive and ruthless when he needed to be, especially late in the 100 days campaign when the Australian Divisions were simply fought out and exhausted. he kept rallying them and putting them back into battle after battle, advance after advance, despite numbers being so low that formerly battalions that were 800-1000 men strong were now down to 300 men. By early October they had to be pulled out. But for his actions, tactics and strategy of August 8th, he became the first man in 300 years to be knighted in the field by the King. An honour not shared with any of his peers. After the war many expected him to go into Politics. If he did he would have no doubt walked straight into the Prime Ministers job - but he didn't want to and the PM of the day Billy Hughes was eager to sideline him as he knew how popular Monash was not only with returning soldiers but also the wider Australian population. With the rise of the Right Wing in the 1920's as a counter to the rise of a more militant Left Wing Union Movement, former officers reached out to him to lead them and re-take Australia by force if necessary. He quickly stomped on those ideas and would have nothing to do with such talk. Great Special Indy and Crew! Well done!! Well worth waiting for ;)

@damoncarter1337 6 жыл бұрын

Spot on, mate

@andrewrutherford78 5 жыл бұрын

Your quote about the proper use of infantry is basically how modern infantry are used today. I am actually currently at The Australian War Memorial now looking at buying a book of his from the gift shop!!! He is also on our $100 dollar bill.

@lllordllloyd 4 жыл бұрын

The capacity for hard work, organisation and consultation- and occasional micromanagement- is what separates him from the 'villain' generals of the Great War. Colonial wars had simply not equipped the likes of Gough, Haking and Monro to organise successful battles, nor gain the trust of subordinates and the necessary collaboration to make a battle work. They saw battle as a matter of morale and 'will', and bullied any who questioned them. This was a culture Haig created at GHQ through 1915. It is for this reason that the colonial contingents (their commanders could not be sacked by GHQ so they could 'talk back') and some more rebellious British commanders became the best of 1918.

@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын

Nice History Lesson David Read. Quite informative. Nice job.

@RARDingo 3 жыл бұрын

@@lllordllloyd Australian commanders owed a debt to Breaker Morant. For it was because of the travisty of justice surounding Morant's execution that Australians are never under the direct command of other nations.

@marsoz_ 6 жыл бұрын

He is regarded, and rightly so, as an ABSOLUTE UNIT

@generalcaesar3477 6 жыл бұрын

“In Awe at the size of this Lad!” Erich Ludendorff at Amiens, probably.

@-et37- 6 жыл бұрын

General Caesar 10/10

@neilwilson5785 6 жыл бұрын

That escalated quickly.

@andrewhart6377 6 жыл бұрын

Troops and leaders.

@letsburn00 5 жыл бұрын

It's hilarious to see non Australians confused by the term. To quote Urban dictionary: " Big sturdy bird you wouldn't want to mess with but would want on your side if things started to get tasty." It's a compliment people.

@dominict9325 6 жыл бұрын

I live in Melbourne, where he came from. A university, a high school and even a local government area are all named after him. A mate of mine actually goes to the high school, a place called John Monash science school. Words cannot express how huge of an impact this man has had on Australia and especially Melbourne.

@yareyare_dechi 6 жыл бұрын

lol the irony that the highly regarded graduate of MU would be the namesake of the inferior Monash uni. (I went to both so im allowed to make this joke)

@yareyare_dechi 6 жыл бұрын

lol the irony that the highly regarded graduate of MU would be the namesake of the inferior Monash uni. (I went to both so im allowed to make this joke)

@WarmasterDeath 6 жыл бұрын

dont forget the Major metropolitan freeway and hospital named after him as well!

@mashang2684158 6 жыл бұрын

and the 100 $ note

@jamespenny6409 5 жыл бұрын

Now a seat in the Commonwealth Parliament is named after him

@estherrosenberg243 4 жыл бұрын

Just visited John Monash's grave today. It's around the corner from my house. Its inscription reads 'To the memory of John Monash. Mourned in Love and Pride.' A really simple grave too.

@MrSaywutnow 6 жыл бұрын

Another fact about Monash - one of the men who tried to get Monash relieved of command was war correspondent Keith Murdoch, the father of Rupert Murdoch.

@DJP-ph7yj 3 жыл бұрын

also known as a grub

@gorilly3023 6 жыл бұрын

"I would name Sir John Monash as the best general on the western front in Europe" ~ Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery Monash also played a pivotal role in creating the Shrine of Remembrance as he believed the men who had died deserved a specific location for which mourners could gather. If I recall it was him that advocated that no statue to him or any other particular individual soldier should be placed on its grounds as this was meant to be a memorial for all the fallen Australians. His statue is located in the adjoining park in the heart of Melbourne. Today he has a University, a major highway and a local municipality named after him. I find it odd how Bean could criticize Monash for self-promotion, when most of the wars most incompetent generals cemented a positive legacy for themselves by doing just that. Say what you will, but Monash's writing shows he cared deeply about the men in his command and, regardless of what can be directly attributed to him in the chain of command, the Australian Corps achieved great successes for its size under his command.

@gorilly3023 6 жыл бұрын

Oh, and a major hospital. I am definitely missing somethings.

@gorilly3023 6 жыл бұрын

And the $100 note, which is a pretty big deal when you think about it.

@alanbstard4 3 жыл бұрын

Bean was there and had no reason to dislike him personally

@kevinsowrey2148 2 жыл бұрын

"And over estimating the achievements of his men"???? He proved his achievements and his men enabled him to achieve his achievements. The bloke is blind to facts and logic and he calls himself a "war historian". A case of Yankee envie and bias.

@lux2132 2 жыл бұрын

@@alanbstard4 Bean was just a biased bigot. And probably behaved as he was envious of him

@MrRecrute 2 жыл бұрын

Not only did Charles Bean dislike Monash, so did Keith Murdoch (father of Rupert) who was managing editor of the London cable service run by the Sun and the Melbourne Herald in 1915. Murdoch pushed for Brudunell-White to be appointed to command the Australia Corp instead of Monash whom he denigrated and said to the prime minister of Australia, Billy Hughes, he had no support among the senior officers. When Hughes visited the Corp with the intention of replacing Monash, he first consulted the same senior officers and discovered that their support for their commander was strongly positive and that Monash's powers of planning and execution were excellent. The subsequent outcome of the Hamel assault closed the question of Monash's suitability but later in the same year Murdoch attempted again to convince Hughes that Monash should not control the repatriation of Australian troops. The DNA runs deep in the Murdoch dynasty.

@davidlea-smith4747 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this biography. Monash is still a revered figure in Melbourne and I expect his leadership was a major factor in many Australian troops, including my great-grandfather, surviving the war. Proud to have graduated from the university named after him.

@tristanlethorn4727 6 жыл бұрын

I had to write about a great Australian person in year five and I wrote about John Monash

@TigerBaron 6 жыл бұрын

I remember reading somewhere that what was remarkable for his men was the Hot meals right after they took the enemy trenches, not so much as the tanks and other things which he planned and executed brilliantly. I guess logistics also play a huge role in the men's morale and fighting spirit, so much so that the hot food in their bellies matter as much as the bullets in their rifles.

@shlomomark2275 6 жыл бұрын

There is a village in northern Israel, named after him - Kfar Monash, east of the city of Netanya. It was formed by WWII veterans of the Royal Engineers from Israel

@MarcoUchello02 5 жыл бұрын

Didn't know that and the light Horse in Bersheva memorial

@dwin4037 2 жыл бұрын

I’m an Aussie and a historian and this is a wonderful narration of Sir John Monash, well done Indi! 👍

@LightFykki 6 жыл бұрын

Hearing stories of great and successful people who fought through their lives, not only to make their own status and living better but also for others, is always a great thing. Quite motivational as well.

@twrampage 6 жыл бұрын

I'm Australian and went through school barely ever hearing his name as anything other than a footnote, It's a shame really as this is the sort of historical figure you can look up to if for no other reason than he held the lives and well-being of his men as important.

@LukeWhito 4 жыл бұрын

Mate you can't blame school for your inattention. He's in every bloody Australian textbook, he's got a university, a Federal electorate and several other places named after him. He's on the $100 note ffs.

@LukeWhito 4 жыл бұрын

@Evilstorm11 as for you, you absolute peanut, Monash, and just about every digger, would have regarded you and the way you think as completely at odds with the Australian ethos and spirit. Read a book instead of taking your political views from recycled American meme pages.

@AdamFordGhostships 4 жыл бұрын

@@LukeWhito I like you! Keep going ...

@AdamFordGhostships 4 жыл бұрын

@Evilstorm11 this is going to be a civil war, is it? Because if we're ejecting the human filth from the nation, the ones who aren't able to live happily in a multicultural society want to be the first into the lifeboats ...

@anthonyeaton5153 6 ай бұрын

@@LukeWhito ...and 22 biographies to his name.

@razor3110 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks TGW team. Been waiting 'patiently' for this for years :) He is definitely a legend here and also a breath of fresh air like Plumer and Currie on the battlefield.

@Adonnus100 6 жыл бұрын

Monash was truly a legend. Strayan pride. It's too bad that he wasn't able to develop these tactics further, earlier, and for the whole Allied armies and they had to endure people like Haig instead.

@guillermohoffmann8417 6 жыл бұрын

right on the money mate!

@tommcdonald1873 6 жыл бұрын

Lloyd George is often quoted to have considered both Monash and Canada's LTG Currie for greater roles though considering they were at Corps and Divisional level at the time, not close enough to Force command to be seriously considered.

@scotiabushcraft9570 6 жыл бұрын

He didn't develop them. Most were developed by Arthur Currie who was the unofficial leader of the Western Front (and was to be officially promoted if the war had continued). Currie investigated what went wrong at Verdun, and after this restructured the military to its modern form - which allowed for integrated tactics, the creeping barrage, shock troops, and set-piece assaults. And his earlier predecessor to defense in depth (which had helped Canadians hold out at that first battle with gas) allowed him to create the set-piece, which was the definitive counter to the German strategy. Monash was a great general, but he was really only applying strategies and tactics developed by Currie. No doubt his self-promoting character has influenced how these two are seen in the history books.

@tommcdonald1873 6 жыл бұрын

If there is any difference between Monash and Currie is the integration of Tanks by Monash. Other than that much of what Monash did have precedent from Currie at Vimy. Monash began to be able to use what was learned starting at Messines. Both where able to take the lessons they learned to effect the outcome of the entire war. Amazing to think These guys were only Corps commanders.

@aussiemilitant4486 6 жыл бұрын

Oh look its the Canadian fella that cannot have Monash's name being mentioned without downgrading anything accomplished by the man, all the while painting everything as 'developed and patented by Currie'. Your tactics are quite boring and reminiscent of the antics of Charles Bean and Keith Murdoch.

@californiadreamin8423 5 жыл бұрын

Very very interesting and informative, particularly his expertise as an engineer, which combined with his for want of a better word, "hobby" of soldiering, and intelligent study, made him the great General he became. This was a time when the class system and prejudice pervaded British society and the army in particular, to a massive extent compared to today. Perhaps only as a "colonial" ( no prommy bashing please ) could he bring to senior military rank, these skills ? Repeatedly the description of Monash, and criticisms he had to contend with, reminded me of Montgomery, so it's very interesting to read that he regarded Monash as the best General of WW1. Montgomery had first hand experience of these events, and I suspect together with later study, applied these lessons to Alamein for example. Perhaps it was no accident that the Australian ( and New Zealand troops ) played such a crucial role. These events occurred 100 years ago, so perhaps it IS time time to remember Monash and the support of the "colonies". I haven't . Wikipedia is an impressive read.

@NormanMStewart 6 жыл бұрын

All hail the mighty Monash!

@Geobacter 6 жыл бұрын

I have the distinct feeling that Indy enjoys pronouncing the word "Kaiserschlacht".

@bahadrozturk2086 6 жыл бұрын

Geobacter Who doesn't like it mate

@antiussentiment 6 жыл бұрын

One letter away from Kaiserschlecht

@gorilly3023 6 жыл бұрын

"Adopt as your fundamental creed that you will equip yourself for life, not solely for your own benefit but for the benefit of the whole community" ~ John Monash

@SerialChiller1000 3 жыл бұрын

Words to live by.

@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is what differentiates Monash from any of his peers. He was about the benefit of all, not the benefit of one. Currie should take note.

@colinb1532 6 жыл бұрын

How fitting that the two major landmarks in Melbourne named after him are a university and a freeway. Education and engineering. Also a city council, an electorate, and many others. He truly left his mark on this city, and is remembered.

@IceWolfLoki 6 жыл бұрын

And strangely enough it actually his civil engineering work in building Victoria rather than his military successes that until more recently he was most acclaimed for (and the reason those landmarks are named after him).

@tikiblue3152 5 жыл бұрын

There is also a town in South Australia named after him in the Riverland where land had been allocated to repatriated diggers.

@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын

@@IceWolfLoki If you are a Melbournian you probably drive daily over bridges he built, see railways he designed, structures he had built, using processes he pioneered and use Electricity from a system he developed. The man was a true genius.

@IceWolfLoki 2 жыл бұрын

@@wizofoz0605 Yep and like I said, that was the major reason he was lauded in the State and not his achievements overseas although in many ways those achievements overseas were what lead to him being able to do the other things. I went to the University named in his honour.

@andythem320guy9 6 жыл бұрын

A total badass General. Its a rare sight in this war.

@hagamapama 3 жыл бұрын

He fought like an engineer. Everything organized, everthing in its place, the small details seen to. And it worked. Brilliantly.

@keiththurston3016 6 жыл бұрын

Hype for a possible episode on Albert Jacka!!!!!

@vitabricksnailslime8273 6 жыл бұрын

+Keith Thurston. In my mind, I sometimes use Jacka as a model for "mentioned in dispatches". "On the afternoon of the fifteenth instant, the company was crossing open ground when it came under fire from a machine gun nest. Alone and unarmed except for a cooks knife, company cook Thurston stormed the nest, strangling the crew with their own intestines, and silencing the gun. We recommend him for the highest award for personal gallantry, after which it is our strongest recommendation that he be locked away from polite society for the term of his natural life".

@xgford94 6 жыл бұрын

Yep and his MC should have been a second VC

@onedingshort 6 жыл бұрын

Keith Thurston they need to make a movie on him!

@sirmeowthelibrarycat 6 жыл бұрын

😳 Excellent account of an exceptional commander. Could you also consider the role of Sir Andrew Hamilton Russell as the commanding general of New Zealand forces? He was instrumental in managing the successful withdrawal of allied troops from Gallipoli.

@alanbstard4 3 жыл бұрын

that was a well orchestrated move

@silvioevan11 6 жыл бұрын

Watching that old BBC series about WW1, I remember being impressed by the powerful words of an Australian politician when they entered the war: "If Britain goes the her Armageddon, we'll go with her." Oh, and thank you 'Land Down Under' for the songs by Men at Work!

@TheGM-20XX 6 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the great cinematic works of Yahoo Serious.

@rUckAmIng 6 жыл бұрын

silvioevan11 arent the Old britsh documentries just propaganda.

@lukegibson9209 6 жыл бұрын

Such a bloody mistake, we shouldn't have sent our young boys to die for a foreign nation.

@aussiemilitant4486 6 жыл бұрын

Looking at it with todays eyes Luke Gibson it may look like the wrong thing to do, however if you view it with the eyes of yesterday it looks like the right thing to do.

@sharnistevens1428 6 жыл бұрын

To be fair, many Australians still considered themselves 'British' during the Great War...

@ThyAmREmo 6 жыл бұрын

To be fair though, a lot of Monash's push for status was to preserve not only the moral of his men but to also maintain public support after what happened at Gallipoli. Especially since the Australian Government was actively trying to withdraw their troops from the front lines in the later year of the war and reporters (such as Bean) had a very matter-of-fact and plain approach to writing of what they saw.

@AdamFordGhostships 4 жыл бұрын

The image at 1:27 is an advertisement for the Princess Bridge Estate, which is in Queensland, not the Princes (one s) Bridge in Melbourne, which Monash worked on and is about 1700 kms to the south of the Princess Bridge shown. The image prior to that is correctly Melbourne's Princes Bridge, but it's the earlier version of the bridge, not the version Monash worked on.

@lachd2261 6 жыл бұрын

The best tactical general of the war - basically wrote the book on combined arms tactics. The British certainly used his template at Amiens one month later.

@michaelconvery8871 4 жыл бұрын

He only added the airplane and tanks to the combined arms tactics because they were made available to him. The first use of combined tactics was by the Canadians at Vimy.

@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelconvery8871 yep, but Monash added to, and improved on everything Currie did. Outstanding.

@pdenn1s 2 жыл бұрын

"He overstated his men's achievements?", Victory upon victory, that is what he and his men did! The first to stop the advance and the first to push back, this cannot be overstated.

@georgehibbard1350 6 жыл бұрын

1:26, that's the wrong Princes Bridge!

@shoominati23 6 жыл бұрын

They named the university after him!

@christ8per 6 жыл бұрын

shoominati23 Monash U, my alumni

@MartieD 6 жыл бұрын

There is a long list of things named after him on Wikipedia.

@neilwilson5785 6 жыл бұрын

They were kind enough to name the Neil Wilson University in Idaho after me, due to Idaho being the only thing in history that I haven't ranted about on KZfaq. Until today. Now it's the shoominati23 University. You broke it, you bought it.

@sharnistevens1428 6 жыл бұрын

And the hospital. Heck, a lot of things are named after him in this part of Melbourne.

@shoominati23 6 жыл бұрын

Well, we need our hereos don't we?? lol

@historydoesntrepeatitselfb7818 4 жыл бұрын

I live in the district named after him and he is absolute legend from where I'm from

@sophrapsune 6 жыл бұрын

First class biography. Thanks for your work on this. After the war, he was also instrumental in establishing Victoria’s electrical power generation industry.

@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын

Third class and facile, but at least a world wide audience.

@EggingPeanut 6 жыл бұрын

I got mentioned for research I did over two years ago😂 best moment ever to be mentioned along side Aaron. Had the chance to work along side him in a commercial one time, top guy.

@Palifiox 6 жыл бұрын

Oops. wrong bridge, wrong city. The one illustrated at 1:25 was proposed for Brisbane but not built in that design. Monash worked on the Prince's Bridge which still stands in Melbourne, now called Princes Bridge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_Bridge#/media/File:Arthur_Streeton_Princes_Bridge.jpg

@alganhar1 6 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see you do a piece on Sir William Robertson, CIGS from 1916 (Chief of the Imperial General Staff). The only man in the history of the British Army to join as a Private and leave as a Field Marshal. Son of a postmaster and Tailor... an interesting story.

@rgm96x49 6 жыл бұрын

Definitely a cool guy. The Entente could've used a dozen more of him.

@zlatko8051 5 жыл бұрын

Actually they had another.

@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын

@@zlatko8051 no, they didn't. Currie was not even close.

@ardshielcomplex8917 2 жыл бұрын

Monash was also the initial Engineer Creator of the Victorian State Snowy Mountain Hydro Electric Scheme.

@flyingnederlander4047 6 жыл бұрын

Another great episode!

@tristankeech4070 5 жыл бұрын

As an Australian I seem to remember the current prime minister kept him in Europe because if he came back then he would had a far to strong position to run for PM in the upcoming election.

@rolanddunk1950 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Indy & Team ......... been waiting 4 years for this!

@lecu1967 5 жыл бұрын

Monash doesn't get the recognition he deserves because he's neither British nor American

@caligulapontifex5759 2 жыл бұрын

And Jewish heritage.

@killermachin341gaming4 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome, keep it up guys! 👍

@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt 6 жыл бұрын

Aussies ...I like them !

@thusspakevespasian5587 5 жыл бұрын

You left out the part where he was bloody knighted on the battlefield by the king.

@MarcoUchello02 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how many Americans know that this was their first action of this war and the 2,000 soldiers of the US II Corps where under General Monash command. Since then a young Australia has stood shoulder to shoulder in every conflict with America.

@barrythatcher9349 2 жыл бұрын

General Perishing was told initially that the American troops were in reserve and would not see any fighting. When Perishing found that they were involved and under command of Monash. He demanded they be returned to him immediately. Monash commanded British, Australian, New Zealand, Canadian and American troops. Probably will never happen ever again.

@anthonyeaton5153 7 ай бұрын

It was 600 yanks.

@TS1986 6 жыл бұрын

Great video Indy. Thank you for bringing light to a great Australian leader during the Great War.

@josheyyoshi8277 4 жыл бұрын

My street is named after Albert Jacka (the first Victoria Cross recipient) :)

@monashsq4001 5 жыл бұрын

About time you did this video because this channel seemed to be to quick to go on about the USA's involvement when they only rocked up when the Germans had fully worn themselves out. If only Pershing had listened to Monash they might not have wasted so many lives on that attack in the argon Forrest.

@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын

Correct. Monash >>>>>>>Pershing.

@bucephulus4600 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate how you pronounce Lieutenant the way the Aussies pronounce it.

@thepottstick307 6 жыл бұрын

Been waiting 4 years for this episode, It was well worth the wait.

@Aramis419 6 жыл бұрын

As The Doctor said, “Passion fights, but reason wins.”

@dangerouslytalented 6 жыл бұрын

The Princess Bridge is still there

@jimdale6001 6 жыл бұрын

dangerouslytalented And the Chandler Hwy Bridge.

@AdamFordGhostships 4 жыл бұрын

But it's spelled Princes. It's the PRINCE'S Bridge, after Prince Edward, not Princess, but naming conventions don't allow for apostrophes.

@matthewtscott1 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation 👍👍

@bruce4130 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!😊

@Admiral8Q 6 жыл бұрын

R.M.S. Carpathia, Indy and crew, will you guys be doing an episode on the ship sunk by a u-boat July 17, 1918, the ship that saved over 700 people from the Titanic sinking? Thank you for the excellent historical work over the last few years. Cheers!

@kcharles8857 5 жыл бұрын

I love this channel. More please.

@loudstrat5410 6 жыл бұрын

Best thing to come out of Melbourne apart from to Hume Highway

@Hebdomad7 6 жыл бұрын

Loud Strat Hume, Monash, Tulla, Princess...

@gregforrester4851 2 жыл бұрын

Truly a great Australian.

@WildBillCox13 6 жыл бұрын

Cool stuff. Thanks for posting! War is the motion of nations across each others' borders. Those few who excel at the manipulation and, especially, the effective operation, of men in the field rise higher in a meritocracy. And, when it comes to shameless self promotion, no particular ethnicity is better than another, unless demurring is a cultural tradition, and the ethnicity in question is aggressive in its desire to be recognized as equal, or worthy of notice. I'm an entertainer, and I see self promotion from every single ethnic or cultural background I encounter.

@13exxonp 6 жыл бұрын

Monash estimated that the battle of la hamel would take 90min to achieve the objectives, they did it in 93min. Talk about accuracy

@LadyAnuB 5 жыл бұрын

He forgot to factor in the time it takes to brew up the celebratory pot of tea. :)

@wizofoz0605 2 жыл бұрын

@@LadyAnuB Probably forgot to add time for the Canadians to catch up...

@peterhinde8342 Жыл бұрын

Great extrapolation of a truly great General, "Sir John Monash!"

@pocketfox743 6 жыл бұрын

*Swells with pride and venom*

@petercastles5978 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. What a shame he wasn't in control of our men earlier in the war.

@HenryDavis 6 жыл бұрын

Finally, I've been asking for this video for four years

@lloroshastar6347 6 жыл бұрын

117 days to go till the end of the war. What a journey!

@ant13665 6 жыл бұрын

why is it that only bean is mentioned as his main detractor? keith murdoch waged an intensive hate campaign against him. rupert has a long arm.

@aussiemilitant4486 6 жыл бұрын

Murdoch and Bean showing even at the turn of last century, the media had ulterior motives and constantly went above and beyond anything related to 'Journalism and War Correspondence'.

@ant13665 6 жыл бұрын

amen

@docwinters 6 жыл бұрын

Murdoch had more to do with the plot than Bean, Bean just had the ammunition, Murdoch had the political drive to actually think he could influence power, solely because he had the ear of the PM, and the fact that he was personally hired by Fischer to review the Gallipoli Landing. damn Murdoch's putting their opinions where they don't belong

@OldFellaDave 6 жыл бұрын

Bingo Ross. Ruperts father laid the blueprint for his son to follow. With more money behind him, Rupert was far more successful at it.

@brasschick4214 3 жыл бұрын

Luckily PM Hughes had enough sense to investigate the situation and think for himself, not just listen to Murdoch lies.

@thomasbernecky2078 6 жыл бұрын

Not too many girls named Bertha anymore... it's right up there with Hilgeltrude.

@anttibjorklund1869 6 жыл бұрын

"same as me" #humblebrag

@fortis3686 6 жыл бұрын

I was literally watching a video about the Emu war when this was uploaded Edit: yes, it was simple history

@monks311 6 жыл бұрын

Alonzo Aldaba from Simple History? Lol

@yourlocalt72 6 жыл бұрын

Alonzo Aldaba i bet its simple history

@killzoneisa 6 жыл бұрын

we don't talk of that war.

@jimmiejohnson4871 6 жыл бұрын

Was it Simple History?

@LadyAnuB 5 жыл бұрын

Rank order of best soldiers: Emus > Aussies > Germans.

@gary8853 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Indy and team!

@colinross6259 Жыл бұрын

Monash spoke fluent German, which he was accused of being a spy/sympathiser for. Any German prisoners Monash personally interrogated to glean more info. Also before the war, because of his engineering background and German language he conversed with German engineers about the weapons being built and had far more information than most Allied Top Brass about German munitions and machines. After the initial wins he did drive his men hard for the reason that he knew the Germans were worse off, morale was gone and not to give them time to stop retreating/regroup. He was one of the few leaders the Americans/Canadians trusted to lead their troops into battle after they watched some of the Poms Top Brass less than inspiring leadership causing their men to be butchered.

@cripplehawk 6 жыл бұрын

Just saw the ANZAC series (a 1985 Australian series). Monash appears in the series. He was portrayed by Billy Kerr. PS what did you think of "ANZAC?" (If you seen it that is).

@OldFellaDave 6 жыл бұрын

One of the best TV Mini-Series ever made ;) Better than the garbage they made in 2015 for the Gallipoli Centenary ...

@wendyritchie205 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastic mini series. Our family has seen it several times and my teenage kids have requested it from the library again because my daughter is studying WWI at school. We've had to wait quite a few weeks to get the first disc because there's a queue for it - even though it's pretty old these days, it's still very popular.

@anthonyeaton5153 7 ай бұрын

Entertaining but totally inaccurate and a load Australian bullshit .

@Mr_Fancypants 6 жыл бұрын

Hello best internet host in the world! I have a question for ' out of the trenches '. What was the life of a german cook at the frontlines like? How did they deal with the shortage of food and was there a black market for food? Or did they have to face agressive, hungry comrades? Lots of love and kisses from Koblenz Germany.

@sloths-df3gf 2 ай бұрын

"A perfect modern battle plan is like nothing so much as a score for an orchestral composition, where the various arms and units are the instruments, and the tasks they perform are their respective musical phrases." Monash understood combined-arms warfare. He got it.

@GenghisVern 6 жыл бұрын

wow, third of a million showed for his funeral. that's amazing

@wordsmithgmxch 6 жыл бұрын

Yeh, I'm planning to hold mine in, like, a phone booth.

@thadawg0084 6 жыл бұрын

Yes and the population of Australia was 5 million at the time - meaning approximately 1 in 15 of the entire population of the continent went to his funeral. Quite staggering.

@GenghisVern 6 жыл бұрын

that's incredible

@colinb1532 6 жыл бұрын

Given that the population of Melbourne was only around the 1,000,000 mark... that's one in every three people in the city!

@pbeccas 6 жыл бұрын

Great man.

@thomdilling5855 6 жыл бұрын

Man sometimes I wish the war would last forever.. Crazy we've less than four months left.

@samb123 6 жыл бұрын

It'll be over by Christmas...

@jamestang1227 6 жыл бұрын

The turnaround happened real fast.

@scotiabushcraft9570 6 жыл бұрын

It has. And we're still dealing with the effects of it.

@camerondeans9056 6 жыл бұрын

September next year, we can start 80 years on from WW2

@nuoksu 6 жыл бұрын

Well, it did sort of continue in Eastern Europe for a couple more years.

@dragonsword7370 6 жыл бұрын

Interesting life story and career! Also I like that kukri on your desk, but I was wondering what the object being you under the barb wire next to the [messkit?] Is? A monocular set?

@ianlohne9793 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, love the show. Could you creat a ''who did what in WW1" about crown prince Rupprecht of Bavaria?

@UHCredhead 4 жыл бұрын

Ian Lohne lol I’m called rupert

@RseH0 6 жыл бұрын

A very interesting thing to know is that apparently when he was very young he met Ned Kelly while he was passing through his town with the Kelly gang. Any one that's no Aussie I would highly suggest looking Ned Kelly up he's a hero to me but criminal to many others

@TheCimbrianBull 6 жыл бұрын

Another great episode, Indy and crew. Here is my suggestion for a new episode: Alfred Redl.

@sling247 6 жыл бұрын

You need to redo your walls with reclaimed barn board. That would help in delivering an authentic flavor. Wicker would be acceptable as well. Trenchlike feel. I'll give you a quote. 😀

@joshkent4888 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@user-qg9fz5xm4b 4 жыл бұрын

@The Great War He wrote In the newspaper about the Bulgarian devastation In western Thrace by the Entante.

@JenniferinIllinois 6 жыл бұрын

I prefer my Great War generals to stick to the same tactics of send the men over the top regardless of the effects. ;) He was definitely a different type of general in this war.