Autism Meltdown

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@Feeling_Witchy 10 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s really nice to film a kid having a meltdown… I wouldn’t want someone filming me when I have meltdowns

@Pegasus-xv1qy 10 ай бұрын

This is not hating on you or anything your point is fair but after thinking for a while I’m pretty sure this was for educational purposes and what to do if your stuck in the same situation and don’t know what to do.

@Feeling_Witchy 9 ай бұрын

@@Pegasus-xv1qy I get that but it is an invasion of privacy and she could explain a meltdown without invading her sons privacy

@jasperk5562 9 ай бұрын

Exactly. When I learn how to handle a situation with CPR, you learn in a modeled situation. Because it wouldn't be appropriate to film someone in that vulnerable state for education purposes. Also consider that he is being filmed as part of Mom's family channel, that doesn't necessarily mean he understands in the moment of being filmed in a meltdown that this is for educational reasons. Also, she opens the video by stating "a family outing ended in an autistic meltdown". Having mom film the day was obviously a goal and a part of their experience at the zoo, and that didn't change. I think the point they are making is that it's really unfair for an autistic child to have to appear on film when struggling like that, it would make an uncomfortable moment all the more awkward and difficult. Granted it's only a few brief shots, but that is just what we are seeing.

@Feeling_Witchy 9 ай бұрын

@@jasperk5562 but she did purposely put the camera on him in a vulnerable state

@Emma-ei2zk 9 ай бұрын

@@Pegasus-xv1qyNo, no no, this argument is the worst, why should others "education" matter more than the child's personal privacy? They are not a learning tool. There are so many ways to educate that do not violate their privacy. Collaborate with autistic adults, who can consent to speaking about their experiences. Tell it as a story later instead of filming it, direct others to recourses about meltdowns, make a video asking autistic individuals in the comments to give their experiences for others to read and learn. Posting your children in a vulnerable state is not the way to do this

@Kai-eb1fv 9 ай бұрын

Poor kids, it would suck to have your parents constantly filming you and uploading to the internet before you could even understand or consent to it.

@heresyisecstasy 9 ай бұрын

Parents don't care, they see those kids as a meal ticket. Fucking shameful.

@GE1463 9 ай бұрын

exactly

@starry.keikoo 9 ай бұрын

if i had to do this i wouldve probably killed myself already. being recorded is probably one of my biggest triggers so having to be constantly recorded would be HELL

@helRAEzzzer 9 ай бұрын

Especially your worst moments

@TRR36079 7 ай бұрын

Yeah

@trytolovethedark9077 10 ай бұрын

Hope the siblings don't end up hating him for ending trips like this for them sometimes as a kid it can be hard to understand even if you try explaining to them.

@Delicate_Disaster 10 ай бұрын

They're his siblings. They understand and won't hate him for anything. It's kids like friends and cousins who aren't always there who would have a hard time understanding.

@haldouglas4773 10 ай бұрын

as long as they're actually good parents they won't.

@mysocksarewet 10 ай бұрын

I did that once. We had to leave early because I had a meltdown when I was a kid at a theme park with my cousins. Now that I look back I feel terrible but they probably don’t even remember.

@rabeaw6646 10 ай бұрын

@@Delicate_Disasterdont be so sure, because we see it all the time, parents treating kids diffrently often leads to resentment on the kids who miss out. She promises to return soon to the zoo, if she doesnt the others will rember. If they leave special activitys for the other kids (school plays, birthdaypartys, sport events ect) it cant be redone. Many parents makes thouse mistakes. And i get why, they are easy to make because an aduld will understand. I child will not. You need a lot of balance to raise special needs kids and i hope they have that :)

@jamsaidemelo1367 10 ай бұрын

@@Delicate_Disaster his siblings may not hate him because they see the whole situation, but its easier to feel resentful even of you understand. A few individial outing with their parents might balance things out. My little sister was often sick. We knew it wasn't her fault but the disease, but sometime it's frustrating because you're just a child. It's hard enough for an adult.

@RebeccaClemonsCW 10 ай бұрын

All I know is that if I was Sawyer, I wouldn’t want these videos of me taken and my most vulnerable moments shared with the world. He is too young to give proper consent to be videoed, and I doubt that he would give consent to this being put up if he were old enough.

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

He wouldn't. None of their children can give informed consent.

@Freybyss 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree. Parents shouldn't put their kids on the internet especially showing tough and vulnerably moments like meltdowns. The kids should be able to give consent and want to be filmed while understanding the impact these videos can have.

@missxoloitzcuintli 9 ай бұрын

So disappointed to see parents still posting videos of their children having very vulnerable moments just so they can get more views. It’s so disrespectful to him.

@Ref1ll 9 ай бұрын

@Simone-ikon 10 ай бұрын

Dude, I don’t think you should film this. It’s great that you show life with an autistic child but you are still putting him on the internet before he can even give informed consent to it. Not cool

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

Right. And they can talk about their experiences and share their advice without filming the child in such a vulnerable position

@peltycrikts6990 9 ай бұрын

She is the consent, as she’s the parent, children don’t legally have consent as they aren’t competent to understand and make informed decisions, they have feelings which the parent can take into consideration. And the decision making is still up to the parents, they decide what’s in the best interest of their child, regardless of their feelings. As she’s a loving mother that’s also neurodivergent she’s understands her child the best, not some stranger, since she’s put the video out obviously the child doesn’t care. If he ever aware and starts to feel bothered being recorded, since she loves him she’ll most likely will stop filming him.

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

@peltycrikts6990 The video of him, posted without his informed consent, will be on the internet for the entire world to see forever. So he's out of luck, if he grows up and doesn't like that his mom posted him in vulnerable positions all over the internet AND made money off of it. Parents do make the decision and they should make those decisions with their child's best interest in mind. I don’t think violating your child's privacy for monetary gain can ever be justified as the best decision for his well being.

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

@peltycrikts6990 "obviously the child doesn't care"... no, the child doesn't understand, and that's why parents make decisions for their child, except their supposed to be decisions that protect their child

@peltycrikts6990 9 ай бұрын

@@ameliav6771 A child doesn't have llegal consent, the parents are their consent and legally dictate their privacy, so. You thinking "The video of him, posted without his informed consent" doesn't exist to even matter. Vulnerable positions, your literally clueless that's not new to all children since the dawn of times, they're always vulnerable, as in they have feelings they don't comprehend, and too stupid on how the world works, and ignorant as to why their parents make decions that are advocating for them. That's why parents decide for us regardless of a child's feelings at the time, because they don't matter in the log run and are basically forgotten about as they mature, these decisions literally serve the purpose of bigger picture in the best interest for their kids future. That as the children mature as they grow up, they will no longer have have those incompetent feelings, and come understand their parents intentions, and why they raised them their way, and what they've benefitted. So what if the parents profits for the temporary exposure, that the parents are controlling what's worth exposing. Apprently you're very ignorant to the fact, parents often recieve money for their children, based on many factors, including health, education. As children can't be legally responsible so the parents use their child's profits for the betterment of their children. Her videos educating the public, of snippets of his life they deemed isn't exposing anything, makes his life easier, he's actually profiting from his vulnerability, as all kids do. When he's legally an adult, and even if he's actually independent to have legal consent. His luck is having loving parents already understanding who he is, how they raised him, to know what personally matters to him, that he can trust for his best interest for every aspect of his entire life. That as you believe he'll grow up to understand, then his parents will understand way above you, what he can personally comprehend, then can explain to him if he has questions, their descisions, where his money went, what it did to improve his livilhood, and how it was saved for his future. That's way more than a stranger assuming.

@dw7345 10 ай бұрын

Poor kid, why do you film him in this situation 😢

@sunglowwolf-7917 9 ай бұрын

To exploit their kid for their channel profits… these are just another case of family abuse channels…

@Thefuture1271 20 күн бұрын

Womp womp

@Thefuture1271 20 күн бұрын

cry about it ipad kid

@libertyyouthofficial 20 күн бұрын

Womp womp? @@Thefuture1271

@annabellechenoweth9469 10 ай бұрын

If he calmed down by the time you got to the car why not have one parent go back in. And have one sit with him whike he naps ir whatever for a bit. No need to end it early for the other kids too

@FroggyBloxXx 10 ай бұрын

Yea ikr

@annabellechenoweth9469 10 ай бұрын

@sockcroc that's not true. I am actually autistic myself. First of all you don't have to say we are going to leave. You call it a break. Then if he wants to go back he can but meltdowns are tiring. I want to sleep after them. And it might be better to nap for 30 minutes then go back in. Cause being tired doesn't help.

@Astronatcreates 10 ай бұрын

@@annabellechenoweth9469 Oops! I’m sorry I responded to the wrong comment, I was trying to respond to someone saying to keep him in the car afterwards while everyone else goes back in. Naps definitely do help!

@annabellechenoweth9469 10 ай бұрын

@@Astronatcreates it's ok

@haannguyen4402 6 ай бұрын

⁠@@annabellechenoweth9469that last sentence is so true. I’m autistic myself, and I have a story to share: last year, I had a meltdown right b4 my benchmark exam in Spanish class. I was upset that I didn’t have graded work handed back to study from (the students sitting closest to me did. Most were juniors (like me at that time) and some seniors). I got upset and threw my folder on the floor. It nearly hit the foot of the boy next to me. Our teacher came over and asked if I needed to duck into the restroom. I politely declined, and then turned to the boy, named Dakota, beside me. Once he returned my gaze, I asked, “Why did she ask me that?” To which he said calmly, “Sometimes people have social anxiety, and they need to get away to cool down.” Then his friends chimed in, saying that they weren’t really helping my situation, though they’d tried to calm me down beforehand. (Id told them I was autistic)

@jadaginn7056 10 ай бұрын

I'm just curious do the other kids ever get upset when either of their brothers cause you to have to leave fun outings early or are they used to it by now and just take it for what it is? Edit: When I made this comment I was asking an actual question, a lot of people took that and ran. There is too much hate in the world for y'all to be ganging up on CHILDREN like come on as if there wasn't enough bad in this world and y'all are picking on little kids.

@haileyCC787 10 ай бұрын

Given the fact that him having a autism also affects them and the way they function as a family. They probably sat the children down and made sure that they understand and let them ask questions.

@theepic360 10 ай бұрын

I believe they should get a chance to go out without the aurism child every now and then, so that they can get the chance to enjoy themself fully

@TheKjoy85 10 ай бұрын

@barringtonacademy7340 If my family had left me behind just to ensure that they would have a good time, I would have been devastated as a kid. As an adult, I can choose to stay home when I know that going somewhere will not likely be enjoyable for me, but having other people make that decision for me without asking me really hurts. The other kids do have activities that don't involve Sawyer and Griffin, such as soccer and dance classes, but family outings should include the whole family as much as possible.

@NoThankUBeQuiet 10 ай бұрын

@TheKjoy85 Yeah but see in this case we are talking zoo. Imagine this was say Disney or something the other kids were really looking forward to and they can't just "try again later". I get how it would be upsetting to the children with issues but sometimes you need to have a plan so all children get what is fair instead of just the kid with issues. Even if that's paying for an extra adult to come and handle the easier kids if sawyer needs to go sit in the car

@haileyCC787 10 ай бұрын

@@theepic360 we’ll I’m sure when you find out you have an autistic child you do a lot of reading up. Have a lot do conversations with doctors and therapist, ect about how things may or may not affects them. Im sure they’re trying to do what’s best for all their kiddos.

@bobacat2888 10 ай бұрын

THANK YOU for not showing your child in an active meltdown. That's so exposing for children and they deserve privacy too 😊😊😊

@ommie_ 10 ай бұрын

frfr (i’m assuming you’re being sarcastic)

@bobacat2888 9 ай бұрын

@@ommie_ 100%

@rileymcclaskey2141 10 ай бұрын

Hey not to be rude but Sawyer was looking a lot at the camera maybe that's probably what caused his meltdown

@AmazingestAnna 10 ай бұрын

I can see why sawer had a meltdown he was probably really looking for it and then he didn’t see it. Oh and good job making sure sawer was in the right space he needed in that moment.(and ur an AMAZING mother for all your kids❤❤❤)

@sunglowwolf-7917 9 ай бұрын

More like right space for her camera to exploit him 😂 Why are u encouraging child exploitation like this? “A great mom” you gotta be joking right? This is satire right?

@moondrop2677 9 ай бұрын

@sunglowwolf-7917 it's clearly sarcastic P.s not trying to be mean

@sunglowwolf-7917 9 ай бұрын

@@moondrop2677 I hope it is but honestly I’ve seen so many comments that LOOK like a joke but when you play along they confirm they weren’t joking 🙃… when u see comments like that at least a few times a week then you really start wondering if people are joking or if that’s what they truly believe…

@sofiakate9749 10 ай бұрын

Hey, it's nice to spread awareness and all and I'm sure you have good intentions but you're actually putting your kids infront of thousand of strangers watching causing them to be in danger and then you are exploiting them. I hope you find a better way to inform people rather then using your kids for clicks, views, likes and cash.

@ommie_ 10 ай бұрын

you’re so right

@Thatonegal01 27 күн бұрын

Your right

@hannahgilan8504 10 ай бұрын

Great work, the only thing that leaves me with a bad aftertaste is that you openly show your struggling child. Generally saying, showing a childs fave on the internet is a very bad idea, but showing them in such a vulnerable state really rubs me the wrong way.

@kaidanariko 9 ай бұрын

Sigh. Can we not normalize filming kids having a meltdown or upset and using their autism for clout? I have an anxiety and panic disorder and if my mom filmed my attacks and posted them I’d be suing the moment I hit 16.

@kyala04 10 ай бұрын

When I helped in the special Ed classes one of the things they told us to do was to make things that the students didn’t like into something positive In this example with the carousel it would be like telling him that it’s a good thing they’re able to fix it when it’s broken so we can use it another day, and that you wouldn’t want to ride on a broken carousel and risk getting hurt or something like that In no way is it full proof but sometimes it helped them not have as big of meltdowns

@HarrietCampbell-wj7qc 9 ай бұрын

Why are you filming him?? He's having a tough time emotionally, and that's the last thing he needs. Somebody filming him. And your other kids didn't get any attention (but correct me if I'm wrong as that was a short video).

@clarizze6600 10 ай бұрын

It’s nice to see you guys all go out anyways despite the hardships- for sure u can go again soon enough✌🏼🥰

@haniyyahn 8 ай бұрын

They shouldn't be hermits, however, she should plan family outings that are non-harmful for Sawyer because meltdowns are traumatizing. Problems with this outing: 1) Two long and too many places (I actually don't know any autistic adults who would be able to manage that kind of day without repercussions of some sort afterwards -- it may mean needing to be quiet for a long time afterwards, for example)2) Places chosen were too busy, noisy, bright, probably even smelly because it was the zoo, with too much to take in 3) No built in snacks or breaks The goal isn't to force your child to try to overlook their body's (nervous system) responses and push through the pain. I mention pain because that happens even if you are having a good time (there is just always a limit). One of the parents should have taken Sawyer home after a couple of hours.

@kae6078 9 ай бұрын

Get the camera out of your child's face when you're kid is having a meltdown

@user-ru5cj2nf6t 10 ай бұрын

My sister Katy Griffin has Autism too and she was born blind in 2010. I love her so much and sometimes she gets on my nerves like Katy will use her nails on my skin and make sores on my arms and hands too. Sabrina Griffin, Katy Griffin's older sister. ❤️🩷🫶💛💜🤎🤎🖤💙💙🧡🩶🥰

@Freybyss 9 ай бұрын

I'd suggest not sharing full names for safety pruposes but i'm so glad you're so supportive of your sister :>

@ElaMax 10 ай бұрын

As an adult with autism, I really hated the word melt down. I wasn't having meltdowns. I was having panic attacks as a very young child. And being told I was melting down or causing a fuss. Or throwing a tantrum. It's sad to see adults still using these negative words to describe their children's worst mental moments... ik it's just a word, but they add up over time.

@TheKjoy85 10 ай бұрын

From my experience, my shutdowns are caused by sensory overload, and I can't express myself anymore. My meltdowns are caused by some sort of distress, such as unexpected, last minute changes to our plans, repairmen showing up when I wasn't expecting them, or a large spider up by the ceiling in the living room. I make my family deal with unexpected visitors because I am usually too stressed to talk. My brother had to deal with the spider. It was just a giant house spider, but I couldn't do anything else until my brother had dealt with the spider.

@seajelly2421 10 ай бұрын

The word meltdown isn't negative unless it's used that way. Unlike the word tantrum. But when it's used inaccurately, that can certainly be harmful.

@ElaMax 10 ай бұрын

@seajelly2421 the origin of the word melt down comes from nuclear reactors melting down. It's a metaphor for a catastrophe. Language is very powerful and visual. A panic attack is not a meltdown. It's your brains attempt at protecting itself.

@gmfutube 10 ай бұрын

A child has a panic attack over a lack of a carousel ?

@ElaMax 10 ай бұрын

@gmfutube not at all. That's my point , a child has a panick attack because something that was supposed to be doing he couldn't do. And the plans change and that bothers him. He's most likely got better sense input as well which means just walking around was probably extremely overwhelming.

@haniyyahn 8 ай бұрын

"It was a little hot and crowded. That's not what triggered Sawyer's meltdown." 1) You can't know what is contributing to his state or really what it is because he's unable to fully tell you. You cannot tell whether he was "thriving" as you say. My partner (an adult who can communicate well) has low affect and like many autistic people may try to do what other people are doing -- I'm constantly checking in with him to see if he's okay and even then he often has to reflect on whether he is or not. Because remember, our internal responses in a situation like this are involuntary, nervous system reactions - not a function of training or our conscious thoughts. 2) It's not about triggers (meaning a single cause) with autistic people. Meltdowns and shutdowns are built cumulative 3) If you acknowledge that it was a "little" hot and crowded it may have been overwhelming for Sawyer (our senses are keener than yours and we take in much, much more). In that context, what you describe and what can be seen in the video is an extremely challenging environment for most autistic people -- EVEN IF, we are enjoying ourselves. Meltdowns have nothing to do with volition -- they are the result of our nervous systems being overloaded and what you describe is the perfect situation for that to happen. Most autistic adults would never want or attempt the day you describe. For many of us two hours of that kind of day would be the limit and then we would need to go back home to our familiar things and some quiet. If you really want to ensure that you are accommodating Sawyer (since you don't know what is too much for him, he may not know either -- the overwhelm is involuntary and cumulative) then the best model would be to choose outings for the family that are calmer and offer opportunities for relief from the sensory environment AND you would have one of you take Sawyer home after a couple of hours. Yes, you may feel sad that all of your kids are not doing the same thing -- but Sawyer is different from your other kids and so has different needs. Also, as you mentioned the lack of it snacks were also not there -- not having food isn't a "trigger" either but it definitely is one of the factors that can build into a meltdown or a shutdown. NOTE: What I am recommending for your family outings is commonly how autistic ADULTS manage their days. It's not about behaviors. It's about our nervous systems and the amount of stimuli and input we are processing (much, much greater than yours). I also didn't notice Sawyer having a fidget or familiar toy or comfort item or stimming. All of those things might help him to self-regulate in a tough environment. But again, you just need to not put him in those situations. The interventions you commonly give -- shoulder rubs, etc. don't deal with the actual issue which is you have someone who is differently calibrated than you are and just cannot sustain certain situations. It would be like if I put your hand over a flame and forced you to keep it there and as you are struggling with the pain you were giving me backrubs. No, you just need to plan situations for me that work and/or limit how long I'm in a situation that isn't. Family fun shouldn't mean Sawyer having to grin and bear it. I would have taken my child to that zoo at a quieter less bright time of day -- like in the late afternoon or evening. Or I would have planned another kind of outing with less hustle bustle.

@ginabell694 Ай бұрын

She explained what upset him. She is his mother and knows him better than anyone. And there will be more trips to the zoo. So it's not like they are missing out on anything.

@haniyyahn Ай бұрын

@@ginabell694 Being someone's Mom (especially if allistic), when the child in question is neurodivergent doesn't equate to knowing someone better than anyone. It's quite common to have parents of autistic children privilege what's "normal" or their own (unanalyzed) desires, for example for their child to smile or hug them, over the child's needs and way they are naturally attuned. The differences in nervous system alignment and processing mean that it can be exceedingly hard for someone who isn't autistic to understand how things are from their child's perspective. I'm not attacking her parenting in what I said. I am pointing out how such outings typically are for someone who is autistic and the workarounds that need to be considered so that we aren't essentially suffering in silence. Everything I wrote was meant to be helpful, as it seemed clear to me that she had not considered some things that are super obvious from an autistic adult's perspective and that autistic children (especially if non-speaking) will have trouble getting others to understand.

@GalaxyGirl223 Ай бұрын

This was put so well! Tysm for communicating this. Autistic salute for you 🫡

@bethohara8239 27 күн бұрын

Just because you because you have an adult partner who can communicate what’s going on with you doesn’t make you Temple Grandin. You weren’t there that day, and you don’t know sawyer. You don’t know what triggers him or what he might enjoy. That’s beyond rude to tell a mom she doesn’t know when her child is happy and what made him upset. He’s 7; I think she knows him pretty well at this point. Not all activities can be exactly what will work best for Sawyer; and if they never take him outside of his comfort zone, he will never know what new experiences he likes.

@SveaDarkdragon 5 ай бұрын

I wish my parents were understanding as a kid. I began having meltdowns/crying fits at age 2 bc overwhelmed and everyone else just assumed it was behavioral bc early 2000's no one cared to help

@NoThankUBeQuiet 12 күн бұрын

I mean it is behavioral it may have a reason but it is a behavior

@TheXangelus 9 ай бұрын

I’ve known allot of people who stil hate their autistic sibling for things like this. They went from being a happy family to all the attention going to the new autistic sibling and thus basically being ignored. Every time they went anywhere it was ruined by screaming and the autistic kid hitting them. The parents of one family refused to realize that the sons case of autism was to severe and it was ruining the lives of the other kids. The parents needed realize he needed to go into a special facility but refused to do so. Second family I knew the autistic child was pushed onto the brother as if he was their personal babysitter. If he ever wanted to go hang out with friends he needed to take his autistic brother with him. It wouldn’t have been so bad if the kid wasn’t so extremely violent and destructive. Every time he didn’t get his way he would get violent and he was covered in giant bruises. If he ever got something nice as a gift the autistic brother would get mad because he wanted it so he destroyed it. They refused to place a lock on his room since he would have even bigger meltdowns if he couldn’t get in the room to destroy things. The most awe inducing thing was that these parents expected that the siblings would just let the autistic sibling live with them when they got to old to take care of them. Last I know of they all cut contact with their parents.

@ST4RB3RRI3 9 ай бұрын

this mother is horrible..

@Merilm26 22 күн бұрын

I know right Poor Sawyer you are so nice and beautiful but isn’t a little mean too film someone sometimes kicking and screaming and pushing and throwing Sawyer I like it when you’re happy 😢

@OneRandomDragonLover Ай бұрын

I'm autistic too and my parents sometimes get angry with me if I have a meltdown. By the way, it's unfair to the other kids having them all leave just because of Sawyer's meltdown. Have one parent sit with him in the car for a couple of hours and then swap and have the other parent sit with him so that neither of you miss out on as much stuff as you did by leaving.

@NL-rj9uk 10 ай бұрын

I love that your kids communicate together just to help out one another. ASD can be rough . .meltdowns. . I'm always overwhelmed with mine. . .swinging arms with fists and kicking. .Then you get those looks from strangers like you are the bad guy. ASD should be taught on a regular basis. 😉

@jackie31933 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely it should. These children shouldn’t be judged and neither should their parents who are just trying their best! Love my baby boy more than anything in this world. It gets me heated when ignorance comes around.

@Puddles01 10 ай бұрын

If only asd didn't exist 😔

@NL-rj9uk 10 ай бұрын

But it does, and so many other issues that parents go through with them just to help that particular person grow up.@@Puddles01

@EmMakesMusic123 10 ай бұрын

@@Puddles01 do you need to be so ableist?? That is incredibly rude!

@Puddles01 10 ай бұрын

@@EmMakesMusic123 i have autism level 2, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Attention Deficit Disorder and Asperger's Syndrome and for 7 years, i was bullied in school and at home by students, teachers and family members. Am i not allowed to think like this?

@creativebone3609 10 ай бұрын

Don’t fricjen film your child during a emotional episode do know how fricken de-humanizing that is. Because I friggin do. There is no reason ever you should show your kid being sad or mad then post it for internet clout. This entire influencer thing has really gon out of hand.

@SapphireSeu-wv7fr 27 күн бұрын

My brother (and me) is autistic and it is really nice knowing someone else knows what it’s ❤️

@h_iiiiiiiiiiiiii 10 ай бұрын

i understand why sawyer had a meltdown and i dont balme him, but i do feel bad for his siblings. as a sibling of a high-functioning autistic one time we were at the california science center and he just refused to go inside and i was super exited to go that day so i was really disappointed when we had to go back home.

@suzannenoble1068 9 ай бұрын

Glad youre spending time with your kids though a camera lens. Bet that meltdown would have been avoided if you paid more attention

@arabellaknott1529 10 ай бұрын

It's good that she's helping her kid through his meltdown but is this really inappropriate time to film just imagine her setting the camera infront of him while he is crying and confused. However it's good she is raising awareness about being autistic t

@claudiacook619 10 ай бұрын

Idk your situation but i saw how sunny it was and as an autistic adult i would be absolutely struggling without sunglasses and a peaked cap to keep the sun out of my eyes. Maybe something to consider for next time :)

@TheMusicalLexi 10 ай бұрын

Cheyenne Mountain Zoo!! That place is the best!

@jadehill4491 10 ай бұрын

It's good to make people aware of the downside of this affliction. People tend to glorify it too much, what if some unprepared, uneducated foster parent adopts an autistic child just because some influencer made it seem "fun"

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

Being autistic is not an affliction. Poor choice of word. And Family channels like them are the exact influencers who glorify it and make it seem "fun".

@jadehill4491 9 ай бұрын

@@ameliav6771 Not really a "poor" choice of words. Affliction applies here, because it's something that affects the way you live. In what world is it okay to come and get mad at someone for something like that? It's a word. On top of that, I'm pretty sure there's NOTHING offensive about it. It would be different if I were TRYING to be offensive, because then, I feel like it would be obvious; I'd be using VERY different words.

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

@@jadehill4491 the definition of affliction: a cause of persistent pain or distress. 2. : great suffering. I think that's a very negative word to associate with autism, as if part of who they are is just pain and suffering. Imagine a child growing up and understanding that their life long diagnosis was refered to as an a source of pain and suffering. Someone with autism is not a source of pain and suffering, they are just different and have brains that work differently. Nothing is wrong with them, the world was not created for them, it just means they get through life differently. There are just far more appropriate and positive words that can be used. Maybe better phrased as "make people aware of the different experiences of raising children with - this diagnosis - who are autism - unique challenges - a different needs than you

@jadehill4491 9 ай бұрын

@@ameliav6771 bro, I'm AFFLICTED by deafness. It's not all bad. But it ain't easy, either. I have to constantly remind people who have been around me for years what it's like to be deaf. I have to constantly remind people to speak up. I have to constantly make sure I didn't hear someone wrong. I'm sure autism isn't exactly FUN in many ways. I'm sure it causes distress sometimes. Why "causes"? Because it wouldn't be as likely without autism. Factually speaking. So yeah, I feel that "affliction" is the right word here. The definition you found and used omitted the part where an affliction, by pure definition, doesn't have to be a PERMANENT suffering. It's just something that CAUSES suffering. In fact, I never said anything about making others suffer because you have autism. I never once even hinted at it. Do not twist the words of strangers. You seem to either be narcissistic, or not trying very hard to understand what I'm saying.

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

@jadehill4491 I don't think affliction it's the best word to use. If you are comfortable with deafness being called an affliction, then that's your opinion. I'm not trying to twist your words, so I apologize if you feel that way. I'm not autistic but do have family members who are that do not consider an affliction. They simply have minds that work differently than mine. It does not cause me to suffer or cause them suffering because I understand that they're just different than I am and we make lifestyle changes so there is no suffering. But if there are difficult times, we sure as H*** don't film it and post it on the internet. I think the real narcissists are people who post their children, who can't consent online when they're vulnerable. I think they pretend to be "educational" and helping others to cover up their selfish and exploitative ways to make money at the detriment of their children. Just my two cents.

@glitterandearth 9 ай бұрын

It’s good to spread awareness about this but you should only film such sensitive moments when your child is old enough to give consent,I know you did this with good intentions but posting videos of people at their worst moments without their consent is wrong,pls take this into account.

@Chantz_. 9 ай бұрын

One thing to say. Stop exploiting your kids and he literally put his hand infront the camera meaning he DOESNT WANT TO BE FILMED STOP IGNORING ALL THE BACKLASH

@HckyFan0133pucklife 10 ай бұрын

Stop exploiting your child! @thedadchallengepodcast #kidsarentcontent

@CucumberCatLOL 10 ай бұрын

wtf they are making edu content on autism

@HckyFan0133pucklife 10 ай бұрын

This is NOT educational content! This is child exploitation. There is no need to show your child in order to create educational content.

@CucumberCatLOL 10 ай бұрын

@@HckyFan0133pucklife are you on meth?

@FroggyBloxXx 10 ай бұрын

Wtf I’m confused…

@snap.-_- 10 ай бұрын

Yeah I got really uncomfortable that she was actually showing a meltdown especially. I wouldn't consider being in that much emotional distress entertainment

@user-vk5cf7in7p 9 ай бұрын

I can feel your painI have autism

@sharonblevins3281 10 ай бұрын

He needed a weighted blanket. I'm 63 it works for me to calm down with PTSD.

@user-pc3ws4mq9s Ай бұрын

Oh my goodness I can relate I don't like large crowds I am having trouble getting along with one of housemates they just trigger me I believe that they get joy out of pressing my buttons sometimes change bothers me I am adult with both AUTISM and Adhd Sometimes I get overwhelmed and have meltdowns.

@jackirish9022 9 ай бұрын

Your other kids are probably gonna resent him.

@heathersanders6795 10 ай бұрын

Nothing worse than a favorite thing disappearing to a child… 😢 hopefully, it will be back soon so Sawyer can be all smiles for it.

@melissatrader8528 10 ай бұрын

You're going to have your other kids hating him you keep doing that you keep interrupting their day because he melts down they're going to wind up hating him your best bet would have been to take the child that is acting out away and let the other kids stay with the other parent instead of making everybody leave

@marshamercer876 10 ай бұрын

That is not fair to the rest of the kids.

@dragonire_dino0856 10 ай бұрын

Well there's not really much they can do. The kids most likely understand very well that their brother needs extra attention and stuff like this will happen. And don't even try to say that they should leave the autistic kid with a babysitter while they go and have fun because would you like to be left out while your family goes off and has a great time without you?

@Leo_Valdez1 10 ай бұрын

@@dragonire_dino0856besides they said they would go back another day

@Michelle-qu1nk 10 ай бұрын

@dragonire_dino0856 they literally said they promised the kids they would go again soon

@kristenthansfhziplt9willia323 9 ай бұрын

You can make 1,000 promises but will they follow through? Probably not cause the kid is a hassle.

@LeoTheLion122 9 ай бұрын

@@kristenthansfhziplt9willia323he's not a hassle just because he's autistic. it's not his fault that he had a meltdown.

@sunglowwolf-7917 9 ай бұрын

I gotta admit as nice as this video was/seems it’s just not ok in general to put a kid that can’t fully acknowledge and consent to things like this in your videos… if you posted this after he was the age to actually consent to this and the others could then this would be ok but I’m gonna assume this was taken extremely recently therefore your child is not of age to fully consent to this being posted on the internet… now this is gonna be up forever for others to see and that includes his future friends, SO’s, family, bad ppl, and more… please don’t put ur children on the internet when they can’t consent to it I wouldn’t go posting my nieces face and stuff on the internet cuz she’s too young to consent and know the full extent of what she’s consenting to.

@gmfutube 10 ай бұрын

So what happens when these children are adults?

@dragonire_dino0856 10 ай бұрын

They'll learn how to manage their autism a lot better. The learn exactly what they need in certain situations and they know exactly what to keep with them when going out. They'll know how to get themselves out of situations that make them feel uncomfortable or anxious.

@gmfutube 10 ай бұрын

How do you find employment where you don't have situations that make you feel anxious ever? @@dragonire_dino0856

@ScrewgeMcF_ck 10 ай бұрын

@@gmfutubeThere’s no one answer to that. Some of us find jobs in places that specifically hire those with disabilities to help others with disabilities. Some of us work in places that provide accommodation.

@group555_ 10 ай бұрын

@@gmfutubewell this is a disability so it's not that such a situation would never arrive but more that you're allowed special treatment to deal with it. A simple one is being able to go home early to deal with it in a comfortable space.

@IzzyMatter 24 күн бұрын

one parent can take him back. i won’t let my kid ruin my other children’s day.

@reneesakos5661 10 ай бұрын

Solidarity Momma!!!!! Go with your mom gut for when to push through and when to go home. We didn't go to an amusement park because the bounce house was closed and we knew our ASD guy would just freak out and we'd have to go home. ❤

@elisha4443 10 ай бұрын

Depressing that the poor other kids get no attention and are forced to end their fun day just because of his needs.

@alphasquadHenry 10 ай бұрын

That's just not true

@ethansbmo8730 10 ай бұрын

a. this is an extremely lacking in compassion take b. they got to go back again cause it ended early c. most of her other kids also have disabilities and they get the same treatment through their tough moments as well.

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

The kids get no attention because they're parents are too busy filming them instead of being in the moment.

@alphasquadHenry 9 ай бұрын

@@ameliav6771 not true

@sunglowwolf-7917 9 ай бұрын

@@alphasquadHenryfactual actually… the parents are abusive specifically the mother doesn’t matter how u put it it’s the fact that she puts her children on the internet but not only that but in vulnerable situations that in either way they CANNOT consent to- if they saved these videos and waited till the children were teens and old enough to make an informed decision and consent to it then sure posting this would be ok but that’s not the reality of the Situation at all… this is why family channels get a bad rep cuz good ones get beaten down by awful ones like these that exploit their children to promote their channels… guarantee when the kids get old enough they will either exploit and try to adopt (like another abusive family channel tried to do) or have another kid… these people are horrible and don’t deserve children at all.

@JonahW1 9 ай бұрын

Look, as an autistic person I know that I never wanted to be in videos only photos especially when I am having a meltdown, but on the other hand this can help loads of people deal with our meltdowns and these are some really good practices for meltdowns.

@DuckyDoesSmth9517 9 ай бұрын

Can't she just explain what's happening without showing the kid in a vulnerable state? I'm not autistic so I know I have no right to say anything here, but I do not like to be filmed and SPECIALLY when I'm stressed or upset, I'd feel so much worse knowing someone was recording me and posting it online :/ I also know he's probably too young to know what being "posted on the internet" means but what about when he's older..? Idk this just seems so wrong to me

@JonahW1 9 ай бұрын

@@DuckyDoesSmth9517 yeah she could’ve but it’s harder to explain than to show how to help

@isabellatonka3938 10 ай бұрын

I really like that the other kids understand that they had to leave and werent screaming and crying around

@Roastys_son 10 ай бұрын

Wait is that in Colorado Springs I was just there today

@emiliegunder 10 ай бұрын

Not sure why you are getting these negative comments. Clearly the negative commenters do not have experience with people with ASD. You always do such a great job with your kids, and they all seem so sweet. You're a great mom.

@LRC7 10 ай бұрын

Whats ASD

@emiliegunder 10 ай бұрын

@@LRC7 Autism Spectrum Disorder. That's Sawyer's diagnosis. One of the common symptoms is extreme sensitivity to change and sensory stimuli. Things that may not bother neurotypical people can leave people with ASD feeling frantic and overwhelmed.

@ommie_ 10 ай бұрын

i don’t like how she records her kids meltdowns, if my parents recorded me screaming and crying when i was 4, i’d be extremely embarrassed and upset.

@LRC7 10 ай бұрын

@@emiliegunder ohh tysm sry for late reply I didn't see my notification until now

@LRC7 10 ай бұрын

@ommie_ I do agree with that but in general I don't agree with exploitation of children

@haileyCC787 10 ай бұрын

Love the honesty ❤

@Userkfkgjgjf83893 15 күн бұрын

You don't end the trip because of his meltdown. That's not how the world works. Our son has ADHD and can have meltdowns about certain things. Calming him down is the goal. However, giving into him and his ways is NOT the goal. We have a daughter as well to end the trip early because her brother had a meltdown, that's a no go. The other kids have feelings as well.

@andriannebafford3318 9 ай бұрын

Question do you discipline the twin because by the time you were walking to the car he was quiet, seem like a temper tantrum, when doyou teach them everything doesn't revolves around them

@wafaalamane3217 9 ай бұрын

I fail to understand how can you pick up a camera and start filming the moment your son has a meltdown, the appropriate reflex is to try to soothe them and help them instead of filming them in such a vulnerable situation. Also, this is not educational. A sit-down video about what to do in case of meltdowns related to autism would be much better beneficial and ethical.

@user-tt6nu3kh6r 27 күн бұрын

Sometimes it sucks that sometimes you just have to remove yourselves and them from the area. They really wanted to be. Hopefully it helps theme from thinking about it and it helps him let go little bit definitely takes time.

@ursularyder-yv5pd 10 ай бұрын

I'm glad you had a good time I'm sorry didn't end as well as you'd hoped I understand this I have two grandchildren with some days are amazing and some days are so so hard on the entire family ❤🙏

@lyric2505 29 күн бұрын

I love the Cheyenne Mountain zoo but i swear it always triggers my autistic sister or my migraines!

@lonelylexi1232 9 ай бұрын

I feel like you shouldnt be filming your kdia and blasting them online ESPECIALLY when they cant understand it, not just because they are young but because of the dissability, depending on his side of the spectrum he may never fully understand the dangers of the internet plus if he goes to public school now or in the future this has a chance to cause more bullying and yoy as a mother have the responsibilty to protect and do right by your child. If this was an educational channel i would still reccomend blurring the childs face and using a nickname or a fake name when doing a voice over. I also wouldnt reccomend filming like this at all because rather than having a camera set around the home and it just happened to be on camera (a meltdown) you instead were purposely filiming wanting something to happen or to share snth from your kids lives.

@tori_nicole_music8420 10 ай бұрын

Ik that zoo i live 20 minutes away from it

@kathyroux7386 10 ай бұрын

As an autistic adult, finding out that the carousel was gone would have destroyed my visit. Sorry, Sawyer! Cruel blow.

@ommie_ 10 ай бұрын

me too, that’s sucks for him!!

@sunglowwolf-7917 9 ай бұрын

Would u also like your meltdowns being posted on the internet when ur of an age that can’t consent? If no then stop encouraging her, this is a horrible parent.

@lauraodonoghue1348 9 ай бұрын

Change and expectations not being met are serious issues with my son. I only have the one but after an overwhelming and good outing I ask what he loved writing it down next time we go to that place I call to check if I need to tell him of changes

@danielleohare3364 Ай бұрын

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@carrotferret 10 ай бұрын

My autistic sister has meltdowns every time we go somewhere and she is non-verbal

@reagan3340 10 ай бұрын

Is that channel mountain zoo?

@Saturnm0ss 9 ай бұрын

You can talk and educate without showing him.

@mamashenny8811 9 ай бұрын

Damn man of course his meltdown stop right whenever you guys are walking to the car about to leave just for him to stop crying you have a lot of patience and that’s why God gave you him but I just know that I would not😂

@sivndoesanimation9720 10 ай бұрын

And that's exactly how you neglect the needs of the others!

@Godisamazing7 10 ай бұрын

What is the alternative?

@sivndoesanimation9720 10 ай бұрын

@@Godisamazing7 Find a babysitter and take them out separately?

@dragonire_dino0856 10 ай бұрын

@@sivndoesanimation9720 Just because of one kid has autism does not mean they can't do fun things as a family like this.

@sivndoesanimation9720 10 ай бұрын

@@dragonire_dino0856 And as a result the other kids have to cut their travel short, one is having meltdown and mum is stressed out. Don’t do it if you don’t have the capacity for the worst outcome.

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

They neglect the needs of their children by filming them and posting it on the internet.

@spoopydraws8362 9 ай бұрын

I wish my parents were more accommodating for my sister when she had meltdowns when she was little - my brother is autistic and they do well with him, but with my sister I think they just didnt/still don't know what my sister has (probs a mix of ADHD and autism) and whenever we would go out anywhere she would end up screaming and crying and sometimes get physically aggressive with me (older sister) she's mellowed out a lot now as she's a teen but I just wish we knew more back then to help her :')

@nataliecolombe8522 10 ай бұрын

I used to live thyi went to that zoo all the time

@1nonlystalkinme 10 ай бұрын

Is that the chyanne mountain zoo??

@hwway4488 9 ай бұрын

When it’s a kid up to 5 or 6 it’s just a regular neurotypical 5 year old tantrum

@user-gl8ok2rx1n 3 ай бұрын

Were you at the Cheyanne mountain zoo? Cause I recognize a lot of the stuff that they have there and I have been there before!

@mossycorpse 9 ай бұрын

how about you help your kids instead of filming them for clout. put the camera away and actually do your job as a parent.

@FreyjaStan 25 күн бұрын

Your other kids should not be punished for his behaviour

@allyssachamberlain1856 10 ай бұрын

So what, you must be one of those people who have to film every thing that your kids do for “ oh you are so brave for dealing with that “ don’t film just focus on your kids and live in the moment

@nein3533 10 ай бұрын

Okey… just let him have the meltdown and ignore it.. he will never learn that this is not the way to go

@Oliver_frog948 10 ай бұрын

With autism it doesn't always work like that, just letting them meltdown and leave him will make him feel like no one cares and he won't feel safe anymore, autistic kids can't control meltdowns so it's not like tantrum they can't learn to stop, them autistic people will have meltdowns there whole life they can't learn not to, if you just let him meltdown and ignore it he could shutdown which is were an autistic person becomes unresponsive they can also cause self harm if there in this state. Shutdowns cause all there senses to over load and it will mean they physically can't talk and could just curl up and not move just to try and make it all go away so letting him meltdown will just make it worse and he will not learn. no hate just explaining have a good day

@FroggyBloxXx 10 ай бұрын

You can’t ignore a meltdown. Let them have some time to relax or something that they really enjoy. The only thing I hate is the way they handled this situation.

@Astronatcreates 10 ай бұрын

If you do this your children will resent you. -a child who’s parent didn’t handle sensory overload properly

@ommie_ 10 ай бұрын

ignoring him will only make his meltdown bigger and will lead him to stop showing his emotions and stop asking for help when he’s stressed, leading to medical conditions like depression and could even lead to suicide.

@nein3533 10 ай бұрын

@@ommie_ no it wont lol, how big can a tantrum get? Can he die from it? No so fk it lock him in his room or put him on the side and just ignore him for 20-40 minutes and he will be FIIINEE its 2023 and everyone suddenly needs special treatment thats BS😂 if you put a positive spin onto something really bad the kid will never learn from it and will die alone and miserable and just because suddenly everyone is a retard,bipolar or has PTSD etc etc etc..

@sylviareta6697 10 ай бұрын

Sorry Sawyer had a meltdown, however you did look at what were the pluses of the day. They look to you to watch how you handle it. Your other son tried helping. Sawyer finally calmed down before the car ride home. Good job mom!!

@Bubblebows 10 ай бұрын

I think instead of snacks you should have had sandwiches, sugary snacks can lead to meltdowns

@vincentdaugustine9218 10 ай бұрын

Let him have a meltdown. I say leave him In the chair so he knows it’s not okay to ruin the day, you said by the time you got back to the car he calmed down. Ive been around a lot of autistic people and this is usually what works into normalizing them as they grow up

@electroncat 10 ай бұрын

YESS, I have autism but I’ve never really had these meltdowns but, if I’m overstressed, tired or too many sensory things the best way to calm me down is to leave me alone in a room for a few minutes.

@ommie_ 10 ай бұрын

it’s different for everyone!

@Rio26202 9 ай бұрын

My aunt’s best friend has an autistic child who is towards the more extreme end of the spectrum. She expects from him what she expects from her other children and he doesn’t get babied or get away with things. His doctor told her she needs to keep exactly what she’s doing because it is actually helping him be more functional (idk if that’s the right word).

@vincentdaugustine9218 9 ай бұрын

@@Rio26202 no I completely agree, I’ve gotten a lot of flack for this comment but it’s the truth, and all the people commenting hate obviously don’t know how to handle their autistic children without revolving the world around them!

@Colourization 9 ай бұрын

im autistic and i completely agree, i annoyingly often dont get left alone when im having a meltdown and being alone helps a lot to relax it is very much different for everyone though

@meotting7569 10 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but what dose it mean to elope?

@keyofb3528 10 ай бұрын

Escape, run away

@AddyKay 10 ай бұрын

It basically means that they run away from where they are supposed to be. At my special needs church ministry we call his that like to elope "runners".

@gymnsical 10 ай бұрын

@@keyofb3528yea but not normally intentional, mind is busy and you end up wandering

@meotting7569 10 ай бұрын

@@AddyKay thanks!

@keyofb3528 10 ай бұрын

I have ASD myself, so i know well what meltdowns can do, i tend to start moving to get out of said situation, to find what is missing etc etc, most likely thats what is going through his head. @@gymnsical

@toymanbugout4516 10 ай бұрын

I see more normal children having meltdowns then I see autistic children. 😅

@emilyhughes4297 10 ай бұрын

Probably because only about 2% of people are autistic

@kristi4062 10 ай бұрын

Autistic people are also normal

@ommie_ 10 ай бұрын

@@emilyhughes4297exactly 💀

@asherflake9172 9 ай бұрын

I think that is the Chynna mountain zoo in colorado springs CO

@Erastourslays13 10 ай бұрын

I struggle with adhd and this game helps me calm down the name is feels hope this helps

@Hey193 10 ай бұрын

Same here

@nein3533 10 ай бұрын

Adhd is NOT autism, why does suddenly everyone have retardation nowdays?!

@group555_ 10 ай бұрын

@@nein3533no but its very common for something that helps in one condition to also help another

@theemoturtle7002 9 ай бұрын

As someone who has an autistic brother, I completely understand you want to have awareness to these kind of things and ways to explain how to deal with an autistic person or child when they're having a meltdown. I think it's needed nowadays, especially since there is a stigma going around for high functioning autistic people. Do I think you need to videotape your kids during one of these meltdowns I don't think so. We all know what's going on with Ruby Frankie right now and I don't want you someone who truly cares about their kids to be compared to someone like Ruby, Frankie or have kids that will be affected the same way Ruby Frankie's kids will be. There are ways to have awareness brought to a certain aspect of someone's life without filming them. I love what you are doing. I don't love how you're doing it.

@lolathomson9780 24 күн бұрын

I feel sorry for the other kids. They don’t get any of your attention.

@UnscrupulousAgitator 10 ай бұрын

1st time watching your family so i don't know the details. But it's sad the other children have to suffer his meltdowns. They will resent it. I dealt with treating children and grown children, who's sibling had problems. Their major issues were: feeling they got less personal attention & weren't a priority, not getting to do or finish things because of the other sibling, and having to act as if they were ok with everything or be reminded that their sibling needed extra patience and care. Making them more aware their sibling was #1 priority and so they just hid it. They'd say "I'd never complain and just act happy, because they (parent) made me feel bad if i acted any other way"

@ameliav6771 9 ай бұрын

All the children have to suffer through their parents constantly filming and exploring their privacy. I have a feeling that's going to be something they'll be far more resentful of in the future than their sibling with autism, who doesn't chose to harm them.

@ginabell694 Ай бұрын

They're not suffering. And they won't resent him if raised properly. As in making it up to them with individual activities. Which I'm sure they do. I was sick a lot growing up. I have two sisters. There were times when I got more attention or plans were changed or cancelled. But my parents always made it up to us and my sister's and I get along very well.

@anniebearcolor6829 9 ай бұрын

All these sudden child health concerns only after ruby goes to jail. Reminder that children safety is constantly at risk on the internet and don’t stop advocating even after the frankes are off the news and mainstream

@straberryshinigami15g97 7 ай бұрын

We need to report this channel it’s so gross and violates their privacy… we are not a prop

@Misszebyrobloxvideos756 Ай бұрын

bruv i spread awareness abt my conditions on videos sometimes

@Ropinanridin 9 ай бұрын

I feel bad for the other kids... the fact that another kid determines their day wether they stay or go. I bet he gets extra attention too which is understandable because he needs it. But I get the feeling that the kids dont get to be kids.

@Merilm26 9 күн бұрын

Hey!!!!! Don’t be mean be nice the reason why Sawyer was angry is because you were filming him please be nice Sawyer you are a nice little guy and I like it when you happy and silly but not when you’re sad poor baby

@KellyDsWorld 10 ай бұрын

Oh sweet Sawyer! I was at the zoo yesterday and encountered another child who was sad about the carousel being gone … I told her that they were off getting baths and new clothes (paint)