i've been trying to get my hands on a 6 inch automag ii in 22 magnum, literally just to see if i want to buy one. they're pretty cheap compared to the other automags and i love the design but they seem to have the Boomer tax where everyone thinks their gun is worth $1200 because the 4 barrel ones are. i've seen the standard ones go for like $400 so every non-mint gunbroker listing for $800 is just wishful thinking. problem is they're still kind of rare so i get the feeling we're gonna see a lot of them in 10 years when all of their collections get liquidated by their kids

@@Cheesemonk3h I have one, from the late '80s. Very temperamental gun. Extremely sensitive to ammunition due to the delayed blowback system. Workmanship and finish was a bit rough. The magazines were the real problem. They had no loading assist feature, and the thin walled rimfire cartridges are easily damaged during loading. There's another gun, which I believe is called the Challenger, that uses the same magazine but they DID incorporate a loading assist. I did get one for my Automag II, but it needs some fitting. I'm hopeful it can be made to work. Haven't tried yet. When the Automag II runs, it's a lot of fun and always attracts attention at the range from the dramatic muzzle flash and blast from such a slender small caliber gun. Velocity from the 6" barrel is impressive, typically running in the 1,500 to 1,600 fps range. CCI Maxi Mag seems to work best. It's also remarkably accurate, especially considering the very loose slide to frame fit. This was done because of the galling problems from the stainless castings used to make the AMT guns. It's a shame it suffered from poor quality control and design flaws. Otherwise it would be an especially interesting piece. If you wind up with one, it will be a novelty range gun purely for recreational use. But it was a cool and truly interesting gun. I wouldn't pay too much for one though.

For the truly discerning connoisseur

Are you sure it's .30 AMP? Because I know .30 Carbine Automags exist Having a cartridge you can only handload using the same bullet as a cartridge you could already run in one and buy readily Seems dumb

@@1stCallipostle That's what the article said. Apparently there were .22, .25 and .30 caliber AMP cartridges for the original 1970s Auto Mag pistol. I think they were experimental wildcats. The .30 Carbine Auto Mag was a later creation of AMT from the 1990s. I've gotten to fire one. Lot of fun. Huge muzzle blast and flash with moderate recoil. Cool novelty gun. I'd get one just for fun. Miserable takedown procedure though. Also an entirely different design. The AMT Auto Mag numbered guns (I think this was the Auto Mag 3) were relatively conventional Browning type locked breach guns. I believe only the .22 Magnum Auto Mag II had the delayed blowback system.

enjoy your lunch, matt!

@@billynomates920 thanks!

Of course there was nuance and subtlety! On looks alone, it's an elegant cannon if there ever was one.

The Barrel change on the Auto Mag is very similar to the way they were changed on the other High Standard pistols.

Indeed, they are beautiful guns... and apparently the new manufacturer has perfected the design, so they now work as well as they look. 🙂

@@waynes.1118 agreed. The first-gen plymouth barracuda of guns

Saved by the PCS before that guy could blame you for why his science project didn't work.

But did you bag any moose with the .44?

@@user-dc1dr9kr8x Unfortunately back when I was stationed at Loring AFB, 1976 to 77, moose hunting was not allowed. I was told that they were on the Threatened Species list in Maine. Although many people in Northern Maine were complaining about them and wanted to start hunting them, the Southern part of the state, that was more populated wouldn't allow hunting. That was also the start of the anti hunting animal groups. Besides that big Auto Mag belonged to an NCO friend and I only got to shoot it a few times at the range. The biggest pistol I owned was a Reproduction .44 Cap and Ball Remington Army Single Action Revolver and a .30-30 Winchester rifle. I was not about to use my .44 C&B on a moose. It would only piss them off. There was an incident on the road leading to the front gate with a moose. Some guy in a yellow VW Beetle came upon 3 of them standing the the middle of the road. He got impatient and started honking the horn and flashing the headlights. The big bill moose went crazy and totaled the car. One thing I can tell you though, it was far too cold for me to hunt anything up there and far too much snow. It started snowing about 15 Oct and there was still snow on the grown when I left Loring close to Easter. The USAF transferred me up there from Carswell AFB in Fort Worth TX. From the frying pan to the freezer. We had 3 nights up there with wind chill down to -100°. It was the only place I knew that people would pray for snow and the overcast to stick around so the place would warm up a bit to -30°. Also I was 1 of 5 guys in the Machine Shop needed to split up 2 shifts and one of the 4 that had to pull Stand By duty after midnight and over the weekends. We rotated that Stand By duty a week at a time. So there wasn't much time to go hunting anyway. I was so happy when I got emergency manning orders to Seymour/Johnson AFB in NC! I got to hunt some Big wild Bore there. Then they sent me off to Hawaii for three years. Then to AZ DMAFB. I still live in the SW Desert and love it. But unfortunately my hunting has been curtailed because of the illegals and drug traffickers. It can and has for some, turn into a real fire fight if you run into them in the middle of no where. Y'all take care and stay safe. Remember, a bad day of shooting is better than any good day at work.

You can still get a T/C Encore barrel in .357/44 Bain & Davis, which is essentially the same thing, except with a rim. You can get a 158 grain bullet up to 2100 fps from a 15" barrel with careful handloading, which will be necessary, since no one I'm aware of makes factory ammo.

@@r.awilliams9815 I just built a .284 win AR... I'll figure it out.

Unethical

@Wanda Fishlips yeah definitely for me. I seriously doubt anyone who can hit accurately with a pistol at 300yds, let alone a hunting scenario. And at that range you have basically zero chance of a chase down. I get it that it was the 70's or whatever but gotta wonder how many shots like that he missed. Maybe we just disagree on what is ethical.

@@beargillium2369 A well tuned 357 Automag with a 4 x Scope can do a 1.5 inch group at 100 .

@@HebrewHammerArmsCo so at 300 there's a good chance for the shot to be not immediately lethal. Germany definitely has better hunting laws, requiring the animal to be taken down with one shot and requiring the hunter to be ready to finish the animal off should the first shot fail to hit the heart. Sloppy Americans cause animals potentially hours of agony while they slowly bleed out, which could've been avoided with some resemblance of skill

@@beargillium2369 you'd lose your shit hearing about some of the things I've heard done with a .22 then

class act. respect bud..

AMT is correct. Harry Sanford owned Arcadia Machine and Tool. The gun was first marketed under the AMT brand. Arcadia Machine and Tool also made one of the first mini .380 ACP investment cast pistol in the same era. A prominent gunsmith, Jimmy Bogle invented a 9mm hemi head bullet with the weight so far forward that there was a large cavity at the base. Large magnum rifle pistol primers ignited H110 or 296 (H110 was better) with a compressed loading that forced more power into the bullet base, cycled the extra stiff spring set and left the bbl at over 3000 ft/sec. One of our barrels was set up with a strain gauge. A flake or two of red dot next to the primer boosted speed to over 3500 ft/sec and produced wide spread pressure readings, shot to shot in the 75,000 t0 100,000 CUP range exceeding the proof testing levels. Yea, I know, younger and dumber then. AMT (Harry) also made me full length carbide dies for the .357 and .44. They were supposed to be used lube less but I put a thin coat of Marvel Mystery Oil on each case after my first dry run. A T Burke

While Sanford later formed AMT, the original Auto Mag wasn’t produced under that name. The unrelated Auto Mag II, III, IV and V wore the AMT (or IAI) label. But not the original. The round was 357 AMP. Not AMT. AMT didn’t exist when the round was created….

Sincerely, How are the farmers doing?

They have to break the political parties who form the Dutch government

@@leftnut7508 they're still having fun blocking up the roads. Not sure if anything is being done honestly. 🇳🇱

@@stoax attention peasant: you neglected to call them terrorists, that will be -1000 social credit.

@@stoax sounds like you're looking forward to eating the bugs and owning nothing.

@@samholdsworth420 You know those comments are spam, right?

Wow. This comment totally blew my mind, I had one of those when I was a kid completely forgot all about that until now, a lot of good memories with that toy haha. Thanks!

@@TheSmokingMustache Mine was orange...

as as automag owner I dont think its fun,hearing my gun is being compared to a toy 😭

@@TheSmokingMustache You're welcome.

Someone tries,fails and then another one does the some think.Over and over again.And I have to be honest AutoMag and M1911 are my favorite handguns if we won't add revolvers so it is marvelius to see someone tries to make them work.

@@waynes.1118 👍

@@waynes.1118 Hi, I had 3 Auto Mags in the 70's. I always told my fellow shooters hand loading for it was like tuning a Indy 500 race car engine. Just one tenth of a grain up or down could make a difference in functioning the gun properly. So first You had to find a load that would function the Auto Mag. And out of those few loads how accurate were they. Tried several different powders but my favorite was W296. My best and favorite Load was 32.0 W296 behind a 200gr Hornady JHP with 100% functioning - how accurate - at 25 yards using a sandbag to steady me I would shoot 2 to 3 inch groupings all day - 6.5 inch barrel. And I had one 357 load that using 296( don't remember the amount) behind a 90 grain jacketed Hemi lead nose bullet that functioned 99%. I loved going out to the Mountains shooting are 100 to 150 yards.

Yesssss. I believe DemoRanch had/has one. It looked awesome!

@@extragoogleaccount6061 It was, wasn't it.

I shot one of these once, shot very well. Beer cans at 25 yards were easy. Had to hit them on the bottom edge to make them fly.

@@randaldavis8976 Oh lucky you. I would dearly love to own one. (edit) can't spell for beans sometimes.

If I had infinite money, an Automag III and a Coonan 357 would definitely be in my 1911-ish collection.

I am very interested in current Australian’s gun laws, I thought you all decided not to be able to own any kind of gun?

@@DanaOrtiz if you're genuinely interested you would know that's not the case.

What types of guns can you own in Australia?

Leave that prison colony brother

@@DanaOrtiz Don't believe everything you read mate.

I seem to remember that there were problems with stainless-on-stainless galling pretty badly.

I love them. They look like little baby rifle cartridges

@@Gameprojordan When I first saw .17 HMR I wanted a rifle in that caliber just because of the looks of the cartridge. I didn't get one because I just don't need another caliber to feed, especially with the cost of non-reloadable ammo.

Of the guns listed the Widley is the most difficult to get running. Had an odd ball load that was running well but extremely dirty.

The .41 caliber round was labelled .41 JMP, JMP standing for Jurras Magnum Pistol.

41 JMP "J" was for Jurras

@@HebrewHammerArmsCo I had forgotten about the JMP designation. Thank you!

Can't you just use 308 cases cut down?

Starline make 44 AMP

Starline has a bunch of their brass lines tied up by other big manufacturers right now. Getting them to make something special for you right now is basically impossible.

$3000 for the entire kit 15 years ago was a bit on the steep side, but if you had bought it and just kept it it could easily have gone up way more than inflation simply because people buy them and then shoot them. Until they break.

I have three Automags. I have been able to get them to function. Much easier to get them to run than a Widley.

Holy shit. Now that you point it out it does fit perfectly into cyberpunk.

@@genghiskhan6809 Yeah this is definitely something you'd find in a near future pawn shop, or being carried by some retrofuture street gunslinger.

Not likely. The base of a .308 Win case is .47in in diameter, while a .44 Mag (can't find specs on .44 AMP, but images show them to be nearly identical except for the time) has a case diameter of .457 in. Maybe close to the eye, but .013 in. is quite significant when it comes to a chamber size.

Actually, someone asked Ian this very question in one of the earlier q&a’s and Ian confirmed the scriptwriters got that part right. Can’t remember which specific q&a it was

Yes, .44 AMP cases were made from .308 cases (also .30-06 from what I know). It appears that for once in hollywood both the armourer knew their sh*t AND somebody involved listened to them.

2 necking dies, a Neck Reaming Die, Full length Size and File Trim die..... RCBS Custom Shop made them. And yes, 308 cases...

@@Stevarooni .44Mag case diameter is the extra for the rim, .44Amp is rimless, same as .308.

Have you seen the new Automag D yet?

no u

How, the video is only 10 minutes old. How did you watch it 15 minutes ago?

The gun JB is holding on the Thunderball poster is a german Walter airgun :-)

I think they used this one yes

I would say that it was inspired by the Automag.

Contact the owners in South Carolina. Maybe they'll hire you to build it.