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How Peugeot Dominated the Dying Days of Group C

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Жыл бұрын

Group C sportscar racing birthed some of the greatest racing machines ever made. Icons of the automotive world like the dominant Porsche 956 and 962, the monstrous Sauber-Mercedes C9, and many, many more. But for over a decade after the introduction of the fastest class in sportscar racing, no French manufacturer was able to win their home event, the greatest endurance event in the world, the 24 hours of Le Mans.
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@adamgillespie5461
@adamgillespie5461 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, love hearing about the racing monster of the WSC. 1 thing though, Peugeot only supplied Mclaren for 1994 in F1.
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! You're right about the McLaren deal. I think I read that the original deal had been expected to last until 2000, but while writing the script I made a mistake. Thanks for pointing it out
@adamgillespie5461
@adamgillespie5461 Жыл бұрын
@@automobilistic No worries, happy to be of any help. Keep up the great work, and have a great weekend.
@ablair37
@ablair37 Жыл бұрын
@@automobilistic it was for till 2000 the engine was in f1 till 2003 as asiatec in arrows and miniardi
@stevesullivan9377
@stevesullivan9377 Жыл бұрын
The Peugot engine in the McLaren was an absolute grenade. I felt so sorry for Martin Brundle having to struggle with that powerplant, the number of times it let go on him was criminal.
@samiraperi467
@samiraperi467 Жыл бұрын
@@stevesullivan9377 I still remember Häkkinen's engine blowing up in Magny Cours, it was that spectacular.
@James-xo4ph
@James-xo4ph Жыл бұрын
peugeot somehow manages to occasionally interrupt their production of boring, reasonably average cars and produce some of the most legendary machines motorsport has ever seen, a truly unique company
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
I couldn't have put it better myself hahaha
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 Жыл бұрын
205 GTIs are a hoot, even the Rallyes too
@unclebanga5976
@unclebanga5976 Жыл бұрын
Have you even driven a 205, 309, 106, 206, 306 or 405? Nothing at all boring about those cars. Or maybes it's cos they don't light up the spec sheet with big power and acceleration numbers. They have built some of the best drivers cars a company has ever put into production.
@derrickstorm6976
@derrickstorm6976 Жыл бұрын
​@@rahulmandala4930 dude, the 205 was created FOR Group B...
@tyxxiz
@tyxxiz Жыл бұрын
@@derrickstorm6976 group b or not, the 205 was already there
@nsx_montana
@nsx_montana Жыл бұрын
Weirdly enough I actually do love the look of those peugeots!
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Well, to each their own hahaha
@affliction1979
@affliction1979 Жыл бұрын
Same, I have even built quite a few models of the 905.
@TJBPlayz
@TJBPlayz Жыл бұрын
I don’t like the look of the 905
@yeezyszn7208
@yeezyszn7208 10 ай бұрын
Fr. The 905 and its different variants are the best looking “1Prototype’s” the Speed 8 is a VERY close second. The R8C is also up there…
@yeezyszn7208
@yeezyszn7208 10 ай бұрын
@@affliction1979I’m thinking about buying a couple tbh. I *LOVE* the 905 and it’s different variants (the SuperCopter is a gorgeous car unpopular opinion I know)
@laulen3448
@laulen3448 Жыл бұрын
Small correction, the Le Mans speed record the WM P88 Peugeot set is 407km/h, Peugeot however claimed it as 405km/h to advertise their 405 road car.
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
You're right. I had always believed it was 405, I should have thought to check it beyond surface level. Having just done some reading now Peugeot did a good job, the top few results on google all quote 405!
@YOUENNNN
@YOUENNNN Жыл бұрын
It's officialy 405kph, in 1987 they even reached 410kph but the radar couldn't record it.
@hugokussj3531
@hugokussj3531 Жыл бұрын
And still, some information talk about more than 420 ...
@unkindled6410
@unkindled6410 2 ай бұрын
Wasnt the main problem with reaching high top speeds for cars like the Veyron that no tires would resist the forces of rotating at that speed? How did these cars managed it?
@Murr1sson
@Murr1sson Жыл бұрын
If the 905 through the evo 1 and evo 1B look like they are from the lmp1 class rather than early 90’s gr. C and that is just what i think is so friggin cool about it, it was so advanced it STILL looks modern!
@Sean-if7rp
@Sean-if7rp Жыл бұрын
The 905 Evo 2 looked like it could have been made today
@pepefrog7456
@pepefrog7456 2 ай бұрын
@@Sean-if7rpgod that thing is awesome looking. i want one lmao
@theamalgamut8871
@theamalgamut8871 Жыл бұрын
In an interview in 1999, after winning Le Mans for the 4th time, Dalmas stated that the 905 was the best car he had ever driven.
@Zero-ux1cx
@Zero-ux1cx Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Peugeot, I grew up with my dad having a Peugeot 505 station wagon, then he bought a 405 t16 station wagon and it blew the normal Mercedes, Audi and BMW drivers away. I guess my dad was just a really good driver. Unfortunately someone decides to smash this car up by forgetting to break. Then he got a Renault Espace v6, oh my that van was fast. But when the new series came out he got a Peugeot 106 GTI, us kids where grown up then and he didn't need a big car anymore.. what a hooligan that vehicle was. I miss Peugeot making good cars, I would buy one if they had anything great now. Thanks for the memories 😍
@shaggy5561
@shaggy5561 Жыл бұрын
6:50 fun fact: the Aero of the Supercopter was made by Dassault and was so far ahead of it's Time that Bentley literally copy pasted the design on their speed 8.
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
I hadn't put the two together but now you mention it the front of the 2003 speed 8 does look pretty similar to the supercopter...
@ultra_gagayay
@ultra_gagayay Жыл бұрын
Ah yes the aerodynamics firm that made supersonic planes made a revolutionary car
@afoxwithahat7846
@afoxwithahat7846 Жыл бұрын
Is the same Dassault that would later make Solidworks? Damn, they know how to set new standards
@redwithblackstripes
@redwithblackstripes Жыл бұрын
@@afoxwithahat7846 Yes, Dassault systems is their software division, separate from Dassault aviation. It's part of the French militaro industrial complex, kind of the French Norhtrop Gruman.
@cncit
@cncit Жыл бұрын
The 905LM to me is the most beautiful race car ever built. The low front and narrow wind screen with scalloped sides just always looks amazing even to this day. Race care perfection especially with the screaming v10.
@15DEAN1995
@15DEAN1995 Жыл бұрын
that evo 2 905 really looks like a modern lmp car. it reminds me of the audi r8 that dominated le mans for so many eyars
@martijnkosters9024
@martijnkosters9024 Жыл бұрын
The 905 evo is a dream to look at Reefus! I love the combination of futurism with the elegant bodywork. Also more wing is more vrooom, right?
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
We might have to disagree on the looks, but bigger wing = bigger speed for sure!
@tristanheaton2127
@tristanheaton2127 6 ай бұрын
It looks surprisingly modern
@cartoonfan959
@cartoonfan959 Жыл бұрын
Bernie Eccelstone destroyed Group C
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 Жыл бұрын
Ecclestone destroyed Formula One. There's no doubt in my mind all of his ill gotten gains comes from extremely shady back end deals. He's always been corrupted to the core.
@larquefausse3623
@larquefausse3623 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but the late-Gr. C cars were some of the coolest racecars.
@stevejones9290
@stevejones9290 Жыл бұрын
Bernie Ecclestone turned formula one from a minority interest sport with virtually No tv coverage into the billion dollar world wide spectacle it is today
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 Жыл бұрын
@@stevejones9290 And he put about a billion dollar of that into his own pockets....
@stevejones9290
@stevejones9290 Жыл бұрын
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 probably more… so what? He offered shares to the other formula one teams but they weren’t interested
@yeezyszn7208
@yeezyszn7208 10 ай бұрын
4:47 Nah it’s a beautiful race car one of the most beautiful tbh. The fact that it looks so radically different than other cars of that era is one of the main reasons it’s so beautiful. Plus, everything plus the cockpit and behind is just perfection.
@YellowbirdYT
@YellowbirdYT Жыл бұрын
The WM-P88 is so absurd that might be worth its own video. The main goal of the car wasn't winning the race, but setting the speed record at Lemans, they were aware of their Twin-Turbo V6 being nothing but a mere glass cannon. The car only ran for a few laps, but it was enough to set the speed record and their mission was accomplished. The funny thing is, even if the official speed record clocked the WM-P88 at 407 KM/H, Peugeot said it was 405 KM/H. Why? In order to match with their new 4-door saloon, the 405 and use it as a publicity stunt. Also, the rear wing of the 905 is super cool, it looks so unique.
@FirriApril
@FirriApril Жыл бұрын
I unironically love the design of the revised 905 ahah. It's super modern for its time, looks very nimble and has some unique shape language to its body I find aesthetically pleasing
@latarianhoodrat22
@latarianhoodrat22 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know about the car before I first saw it and thought it was a modern lmp car lmao, it definitely looked ahead of its time
@mostlymotiongraphics2134
@mostlymotiongraphics2134 Жыл бұрын
This is my favourite Le Mans-winning car. I love the styling. Always have. At the 2022 Le Mans race I bought a postcard of an illustration of this car as a memento. it was the only thing I could afford to buy! The other mementos were two pieces of confetti (one blue and one gold), debris from the Sunday Ferrari crash at the Porsche curves, and some rubber I pulled from the final curb on the track.
@gapistan2335
@gapistan2335 Жыл бұрын
Honestly half the reason I love your channel and watch every video is because of the gran turismo background music and fits the whole motorsport story telling theme amazing
@CLOYO
@CLOYO Жыл бұрын
🥰
@floodo1
@floodo1 6 ай бұрын
it’s insane in the C9 or Minolta Toyota videos …. Makes me feel like back doing enduros lol
@lostwill86
@lostwill86 Жыл бұрын
The 905 is a fabulous car. What people often forget is peugeot have built many amazing cars over the years
@jackytwickx5330
@jackytwickx5330 Жыл бұрын
Good job. Ive been in love with Le Mans for over 20 years. Cant wait for 2023!
@gammagirl1992
@gammagirl1992 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome. Growing up with the Gran Turismo games I fell in love with cars, espcially 90's JDM and Group C cars. Glad I've found your channel. Cool and not so long videos. Great job! You definitely deserve more attention.
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really glad you like the vids :)
@jarrodkopf6813
@jarrodkopf6813 Жыл бұрын
I remember the 905C back in Forza Motorsport 2 and how recognizable the car was with its double wing and sleek design. It is still my favorite proper race car ever.
@nicholascanjuga6000
@nicholascanjuga6000 Жыл бұрын
love the look of the early 90s group c cars, super futuristic for the time, gread video as always!
@able-fox
@able-fox Жыл бұрын
You should do a video about open and closed top prototypes. It has gone back and forth a few times and I have never been able to figure out exactly what rules governed the trends. The best I can tell in the 1960s and earlier it was pretty well up to the manufacturer with open tops becoming more common in the late '60s and early '70s then suddenly Group C and IMSA GTP were all closed cockpit with a return of open top cars in the late '80s early '90s only for them to go away in the 2010s. I really like open top cars and would love to see them return but I don't think we ever will. Anyway I think it would be a good subject for a video.
@mohammadalfattal2902
@mohammadalfattal2902 Жыл бұрын
absolutely love group c, Mercedes Sauber c9 and c11 are my favourites
@InfamousPhilUsedToBe
@InfamousPhilUsedToBe Жыл бұрын
The Jaguar XJR-14 and Peugeot's 905B evo2 are Group C's best looking cars ever. And they are as fast as they are beautiful. Solid thanks Tom ✊🏽
@dopey473
@dopey473 Жыл бұрын
What I love about this car's design is that it pretty much predicted the modern prototype race car design with it's giant wings and overall weird boxy design.
@pepefrog7456
@pepefrog7456 2 ай бұрын
it’s actually crazy you said that this is one of the best looking Group C cars ever made.
@injeolmi6
@injeolmi6 Жыл бұрын
I like your channel. This was a nice video, thanks!
@berserkfuryyy6798
@berserkfuryyy6798 Жыл бұрын
Really glad I found this channel. I love your videos!
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 Жыл бұрын
I love the classic gran turismo shop/prize car ost in the background
@disguisedclone6722
@disguisedclone6722 9 ай бұрын
For some reason being an absolute boss at the last possible moment after everyone elses has stopped caring sounds very Peugeot
@JimmyProductions
@JimmyProductions Жыл бұрын
The supercopter looks like a modern LMP1/LMH!
@supersevenhead
@supersevenhead Жыл бұрын
Always liked the look of the Peugeot especially with spats. The only new car our family had was a 1960 Peugeot station wagon here in the States. Learned to drive in that car with its column shifted four speed.
@bassybossy
@bassybossy Жыл бұрын
Love the 905, especially the B with that wacky wing that I just can't help to admire. It looks like it makes the car longer like the 'long tails' of old. Thank you for telling the that the engines were derived from F-1 rather than just being bolted in F-1 engines.
@vlkt282
@vlkt282 Жыл бұрын
First video = like Second = subscription Third = bell Great content!
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying them
@reinholdachleitner2069
@reinholdachleitner2069 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video with all the old race footage of the car,I remember racing this car on Gran Turismo 4 and Gran Turismo 6.Brings back memories.💯✌🏻
@ktvcars
@ktvcars Жыл бұрын
Great video, i for sure learned a lot! America doesn't have Peugeot, but they are so legendary! Glad you made this one, keep it up!
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. Don't worry, you're not missing out on too much not having (modern) Peugeot road cars lol
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 8 ай бұрын
The 905 Evo is the most beautiful Group C car ever in my opinion.
@Tulizukka
@Tulizukka Жыл бұрын
Such visually in style beautiful and modern looking car
@King_Ears
@King_Ears Жыл бұрын
McLaren only used Peugeot power for the 1994 season before the Mercedes era. Jordan used them for 95, 96 & 97 before switching to Mugen-Honda
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Yes, I pinned a comment correcting the mistake
@grimm6jack
@grimm6jack Жыл бұрын
The reason why it beat the TS010 was because of power... The aero on the TS010 was on another level, it's even more efficient than a Porsche 919 Hybrid. What a marvel.
@owpwk7577
@owpwk7577 Жыл бұрын
The most beautiful car in my life And content 😉
@simmadpaul2880
@simmadpaul2880 Жыл бұрын
For me there are 2 reasons why the Mazda stands out. The noise of the thing. I SAID THE NOISE OF THE THING. and of course JOOOOOOHHHNNNYYYY Herbert. The greatest F1 driver of all time :)
@francescoruggeri518
@francescoruggeri518 Жыл бұрын
Another great video
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
@richardlehoux
@richardlehoux Жыл бұрын
Great footage and commentary again. Thank!
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Feeling the same about the car although the double rear wing is cool and the Evocopter looks amazing. Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the good work.
@elpoutre2522
@elpoutre2522 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the correct prononciation of Le Mans and avoiding the infamous "leumah"
@garygup
@garygup Жыл бұрын
I think it looks stunning.
@jackwilson8651
@jackwilson8651 Жыл бұрын
I think the 905s are some of the best looking Le Mans cars of all time. The silk cut xjr-9 is the most beautiful and so is the Bentley Speed 8
@alvaroolavarria1832
@alvaroolavarria1832 Жыл бұрын
This videos are awesome!
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@eizzah8323
@eizzah8323 Жыл бұрын
0:50 the P88 set 407 kph speed record But they advertized it as 405 for the newly released Peugeot 405
@nyckae8587
@nyckae8587 Жыл бұрын
Love Group C and miss it.....they say a gentleman can never be a beast or a monster.....that's before they seen and raced the Jaguar XJR-9
@isukarse
@isukarse Жыл бұрын
4:44 well i think it sbeautiful together with the c9/11, 956 and the 905 evo were the most beautiful cars in group c 🤠
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Well I certainly agree with you about the C9/11 and the 956!
@isukarse
@isukarse Жыл бұрын
@@automobilistic 🙏
@isukarse
@isukarse Жыл бұрын
@@automobilistic just came back to this vid. You make some really good ones man, even rewatchable 😁
@StarFox85
@StarFox85 Жыл бұрын
1st class content 🥂
@huyra8019
@huyra8019 Жыл бұрын
Wait DASSAULT LIKE THAT DASSAULT? THE FUCKING MIRAGE
@phillipstewart2031
@phillipstewart2031 Жыл бұрын
New viewer love this channel
@VinceroAlpha
@VinceroAlpha Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always, love the cheeky lines as well lol.
@explosivehotdogs
@explosivehotdogs 8 ай бұрын
I think the 905B is beautiful - looks a bit like a spaceship.
@ambergris5705
@ambergris5705 Жыл бұрын
I always loved the design of these Peugeot 905. The first one is the classiest, the Evo is years ahead, like an LMP1, and the Supercopter just is the most bonkers spaceship. It really would have become a legend and changed history if it hadn't been canned.
@a92gsxdsm
@a92gsxdsm Жыл бұрын
Love Peugeot!! Great video mate! Hope yall are going to watch 8hrs of Bahrain this weekend. Happy racing everyone.
@SamMassingham
@SamMassingham Жыл бұрын
Another cracking video! Wonder if you could do a video on the Pikes Peak Pennzoil Celica, that'd be interesting 👌
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! I'll add the Pikes Peak Celica to the list, I'll have to do some research on it
@manoaramanantsalama
@manoaramanantsalama 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Gran Turismo OSTs,
@carlosdlguerra
@carlosdlguerra Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely beautiful , it looks like a cute cartoon cat 🐱 which fits
@malcolmcumberlidge1569
@malcolmcumberlidge1569 Жыл бұрын
Good video but I have to pick you up on a historical point. The driving force behind the 3.5 litre class was not Bernie Ecclestone, it was Jean Marie Balestre who was head of the then motorsport governing body FISA until 1991. At the time of group C's demise, Bernie Ecclestone was the head of FOCA, the Formula One Constructors Association and had no control over sports cars.
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
I think you're right about the actual positions held, but to say Ecclestone had no control over sports cars isnt true. He had far reach in motorsport. It is pretty widely accepted in most publications that have written about the death of Group C that it was Ecclestone who was the driving force. The motivation? To get Mercedes and Peugeot into F1 (it worked). Of course confirming this 100% is difficult, its an in-tangible.
@indopleaser
@indopleaser Жыл бұрын
enjoyed this story.
@agungdewandaru6057
@agungdewandaru6057 Жыл бұрын
I love the video that you make bro, great explain for le mans fans
@SuperWalkingzombie
@SuperWalkingzombie Жыл бұрын
Supercopter indeed one of my all time le mans design car, it's classic yet futuristic at the same time
@scottmiller1531
@scottmiller1531 Жыл бұрын
I don't view the 905 as classically beautiful, I view it as very emblematic of a period of sports car racing that was completely bonkers. That alone makes it beautiful, in its own way.
@greebuh
@greebuh Жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite cer in F7
@Punny1234
@Punny1234 Жыл бұрын
Still one of the most beautiful race cars ever and the sound is just awesome .
@Alex-UM7GTE
@Alex-UM7GTE Жыл бұрын
That 905 is sick,Ngl Next should be the mazda mxr1,please.
@MidnightMechanic
@MidnightMechanic Жыл бұрын
The 905 is the perfect example of how literally military grade LMPs really are. If all our global conflicts could be solved through endurance racing, Le Mans would be the event to host it.
@feelincrispy7053
@feelincrispy7053 Жыл бұрын
The Gran tourismo soundtrack was a nice touch
@Pehmusica
@Pehmusica Жыл бұрын
Easily the most beautifull groupC car ever
@lucashoffman9823
@lucashoffman9823 Жыл бұрын
Omg I didn’t see the other videos on your channel but if they are as good as this one you’re going to be my favorite motorsports guy
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really glad you enjoyed the video! I hope you enjoy the others too :)
@lucashoffman9823
@lucashoffman9823 Жыл бұрын
@@automobilistic yes they are all amazing thanks for your channel really
@saad_ghannam
@saad_ghannam Жыл бұрын
The quality of your thumbnails is amazing
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
thanks! they're the first thing people see I try to get them right haha
@pryebloo63
@pryebloo63 Жыл бұрын
"So bad that only 3 manufacturers competed as factory teams" *Cough Cough* WEC since 2018
@matsimmo6208
@matsimmo6208 Жыл бұрын
I want to pick out the WM car in 1988 did 407 km/h. Peugeot marketed it was 405 km/h to help sell the then relatively new Peugeot 405
@KillBones
@KillBones Жыл бұрын
One of the best sounded racecar, this V10 is a masterpiece. Personnaly, I love the style of the car, maybe it's biased because i'm French 🙃
@gavinc.morrison1147
@gavinc.morrison1147 Жыл бұрын
all that exhaust/burnt fuel @0.25 is fucking glorious
@DocDudix
@DocDudix 8 ай бұрын
Correction: Peugeot didn't supply McLaren until 2000. They only did it in 1994. From then on, McLaren used Mercedes engines. Peugeot did, however, supply other F1 teams, like Jordan and Prost. About the 905B, I think it's one of the most beautiful cars that ever raced at Le Mans.
@robertalexanderho5268
@robertalexanderho5268 Жыл бұрын
I think they look beautiful.
@ruricklodder
@ruricklodder Жыл бұрын
The 905 evo II looks remember the today's LMP cars,
@robcraighill6315
@robcraighill6315 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed muchly
@VectorOfKnowledge
@VectorOfKnowledge Жыл бұрын
God I love that era of racing.
@high_gearz9117
@high_gearz9117 Жыл бұрын
This man doesn’t miss. Amazing as usual
@zedfender9423
@zedfender9423 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 80s motor sport was like the wild west. The rule where just there to be smashed to bits with loop holes. Every person involved at the time always want to bring up that era it must have been a great time to be a driver, engineer, boss. Regardless of the bad bits like ending up in a fire ball.
@staremperio
@staremperio 2 ай бұрын
It was Ecclestone's goal to destroy Group C, and he pulled out all the stops to get rid of the competition.
@NielsDale
@NielsDale Жыл бұрын
Strange that Peugeot finally dialed in the engine reliability, yet with Jordan in 3.5 litre F1 era, their engines were like grenades.
@Eliot935k3
@Eliot935k3 3 ай бұрын
I like the car, it looks similar to other group c cars during the 1991 season though.
@nathanmerritt9739
@nathanmerritt9739 Жыл бұрын
As Enzo Ferrari once said, “Race cars are neither beautiful nor ugly. They become beautiful when they win.”
@ploppyjr2373
@ploppyjr2373 Жыл бұрын
So if caterham won in 2014 it would’ve been beautiful?
@getfasterE36
@getfasterE36 Жыл бұрын
The XJR14 was so good Porsche bought 1 and reverse engineered it. 😆
@lordvadar6104
@lordvadar6104 Жыл бұрын
I remember this car from Grand Trasmo
@larquefausse3623
@larquefausse3623 Жыл бұрын
It's fair to say that Peugeot copied that 2-tier wing design straight from the TWR Jaguar team. Keke Rosberg said that TWR copied the 905 for their XJR-14 so appropriating their 2-tier wing was just business. Of course, the two cars didn't resemble each other much especially at the start of the season so Rosberg's accusations were pretty baseless.
@michaelkeaton5394
@michaelkeaton5394 Жыл бұрын
Just to put the emphasis on who designed the body of the car, Dassault, those who made the french airforce main fighter jet for 50 years now, it's like if an american indycar was design by lockeed Martin...
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
I believe it was the chassis designed and built by Dassault, not the body. But their aerospace credibility certainly played a part in getting the contract I'm sure haha
@hendrikmorang2851
@hendrikmorang2851 9 ай бұрын
For me 905 is the most beautifull group C
@steve11138
@steve11138 Жыл бұрын
I loved the look of the 905b. It looked like a zspaceship compared to most of the other cars
@marks7197
@marks7197 Жыл бұрын
I always thought the first 905 looked awkward and a bit old fashioned particularly compared to the Xjr14 from the same year. It reminds me of some of the cars that ran in the early days of group c that look like they belong in the previous decade, like the first WM's and the old Rondeau compared to the 956.
@automobilistic
@automobilistic Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, it looked much more like an 80s car than a 90s car. clearly it was behind the times because they felt the need to upgrade it pretty early on haha
@marks7197
@marks7197 Жыл бұрын
@@automobilistic I think the 1993 version was far, far uglier. Well done Peugeot, that took some doing.
@daltonbedore8396
@daltonbedore8396 Жыл бұрын
the best looking protype ever
@gtsupreme
@gtsupreme Жыл бұрын
905 is most beautiful C car , I thing better then other , that have quite classic design
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