Autorotation practice in the Bell 206 Jet Ranger during my FI Training in Sweden.
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@deltafox529 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this VERY EXCEPTIONAL point of view : dashboard, cyclic and collective and the forward, I felt as I was piloting for real even if a disability can't led me to any cockpit to try !
@LMHS6310 жыл бұрын
Nice job....great video reminds me of my days in a Bell Ranger when I was a radio tech for our local police dept. Never forget that turbine whine. I'd go up after we repaired the police radios & or antennas, to make sure all was well in flight. Nothing like a flight over the Atlantic Ocean at sunset in Summer ! Good Luck to you.
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
Yes the start-up in the bell does sound very nice ^^ thanks! :)
@denzel3877 жыл бұрын
nice work Tim Loens
@melvin2928 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Job. Autorotations and landing are the the toughest things to learn when helicoptering. You did a great job. Well done.
@zzodr8 жыл бұрын
Flying sideways with crosswind is harder I reckon.
@sbFIFTY98 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I'm transitioning to a 206B2 and appreciate people like you sharing this. Nice smooth AR's. They're so much nicer to do in the 206 vs R22's.
@melvin2928 жыл бұрын
+sbFIFTY9 ahmen and well said!
@mhey17056 жыл бұрын
What job did you get from the R22 to the 206? Can I join you lol.
@av8rbri4735 жыл бұрын
sbFIFTY9 i bet
@Mike-012349 жыл бұрын
Helicopters are so cool the visibility is so much better then a small plane. You can fly low and slow so maneuverable.
@codmott2864 жыл бұрын
there are planes with good visibility, just need one with glass doors. But yeah having the engine up front is gonna obstruct a lot of your view.
@stealhty19 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, Don't be afraid to flare
@ldee2478 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim very amazing, great control,nicely done and thanks for sharing.Thumbs up!!!
@Touff0138 жыл бұрын
+ldee247 thanks!
@santinojozefmiller77214 жыл бұрын
Tim Loens how does it jump back to 100% power that faster?
@multimandan4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that was so sharp and great performing overall
@ericmacnichol64766 жыл бұрын
Gordon power off autos are taught as well... I own a bell 407, and I've practiced both power down, and power off autorotations.. so yes power off autos are taught as well.
@trickcyclists7 жыл бұрын
Those looked nicely done. Very smooth. Great to watch, cheers and well done.
@jodd55345 жыл бұрын
that second one was boss! you can see the happiness in your calm face
@pass-my-test Жыл бұрын
I love watching this
@Whirlynerds11 жыл бұрын
Great video - that last one looked difficult
@dasdguy76062 ай бұрын
That was fun. Thanks.
@kingjames82839 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. A couple weeks ago I was up in a B-407 Long Ranger and I guess I'm so used to them them that I sometime forget I'm in a helicopter. Very quiet (with headset on) and very smooth with the 4-blade rotor. Very comparable to being in a Cadillac going down the highway. I've now been in the Bell 47G, UH-1 Huey, 206 Ranger, and 407 Long Ranger. I've thought about other make helicopters but I'm still impressed with Bell helicopters so that is the one I always request. At some point I want to ride in the Huey 2 with composite blades.
@michael-ju8tv4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I wish there was a second camera pointed at the gauges. Was hard to see the rotor RPM.
@johnkern70753 жыл бұрын
Sound reminds me of Sky News 9 Oklahoma. Keeping an eye on tornados.
@MrFearless848 жыл бұрын
Last flare was kind of high or this point of view is deceiving me? As for me, I aim slightly before where I want to land, because the flare gives you time to cover some more distance depending on the speed you initiate the flare with.
@Touff0138 жыл бұрын
+Georgi Galabov Not all are perfect, that's why we practise ;) last one was high yes. Also when we do a power recovery we do them slightly higher to reduce the risk of hitting the tail during the flare
@melvin2928 жыл бұрын
+Tim Loens Don't apologize for your talents. Most don't know how difficult it is to fly a helicopter. You did it just right. Well done and well said. No tail-boom strikes when we practice. You can fly with me any day.
@Touff0138 жыл бұрын
+melvin292 Thanks, appreciate it! ;-)
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
Bob Gilchrist : Thanks, yes I am actually resting my elbow on my leg but it's out of the image! But it's a good tip :-)! Andy Peet : Thanks Andy! =).
@rigilchrist10 жыл бұрын
Well done. I miss the JetRanger - haven't flown one in years. You don't appear to rest your right forearm on your leg - have you tried that? Most pilots find it helps. Good luck!
@VideoDexterity7 жыл бұрын
Tim, How many hours did you have at this time? Did you first start with a piston engine for your initial lessons? Thanks, Dino
@Touff0137 жыл бұрын
Probably had around 260hrs at that time. I started on the Cabri G2, which is a piston yes
@gordonmccoy12539 жыл бұрын
Although this was a good film to watch and touch control on the students part was very good, it gripes me to no end that the civilian training does NOT teach power-off touchdown autos.....
@mjm95369 жыл бұрын
Gordon Mccoy YES! Granted in the army we only do touchdowns while in the school house but we still always chop the throttle to idle. Its just not the same training value without that.
@gordonmccoy12539 жыл бұрын
Right - agreed! I'm finding out that even in the US Army they aren't teaching power-off touch-down autos any more.... Keep in mind that I did my solo in the Spring of '68 @ Ft Wolters, TX - a long time ago.... Things change...
@mjm95369 жыл бұрын
Gordon Mccoy not sure what will happen at Rucker once they transition to lakotas for primary trainers instead of th-67's/b06's. But for now in 67's and 58's we still did touch down power off autos. Currently im flying 58D's... Till they divest the rest...
@billybezeau24759 жыл бұрын
Gordon Mccoy That is not true!! At my school whenever winds are 10 kts and higher we do power off touchdown on hardsurface!! so thats pretty much each flight!
@gordonmccoy12539 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that, Billy....! What school and where is the location???
@stereopolice9 жыл бұрын
BTW, one of the reasons (not the only) we don't do a full down is that you don't have to ask permission. Depending on location, some property owners get quite righteous. Happens w/hot air balloons too.
@Touff0139 жыл бұрын
+stereopolice That's true indeed
@canaryliina Жыл бұрын
With all the respect but can you just pick a random field to practice on and assume it's ok with the owner?
@ourdad39328 жыл бұрын
Does the P1 normally sit on the right on a 206? I've never flown one but was passenger on the left.
@TheJockeBerglund10 жыл бұрын
Which school did you attend? Looks like northern Sweden or in Småland perhaps... Great flying :-)
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
Yes it was in Sweden indeed. This was around the area of Jönköping. I went to Northern Helicopters
5 жыл бұрын
Why are you flying on the left seat?
@motokid0329 жыл бұрын
I only sim in X-Plane so I could be wrong but aren't you supposed to keep the RRPM from climbing with like it was during your approach?
@Touff0138 жыл бұрын
+motokid032 Hi, sorry for the late reply. you want the RRPM as high as acceptable during an autorotation so you can use it later to cushion the landing and just to be on the safe side of the arc.
@paulmajor15453 жыл бұрын
This guy was the killer in Manhunter???
@meikelmyers32049 жыл бұрын
Well done Man ;) thumbs up ..stay cool in all conditions ;)
@Touff0139 жыл бұрын
+Meikel Myers thanks!
@MrCBMax069 жыл бұрын
Were you at idle during descent? It sounded like you were at 100% engine RPM throughout the maneuver and I didn't see a yaw indicating throttle down or throttle up. The only yaw appears to be when you transitioned from flat pitch to hover torque.
@Touff0139 жыл бұрын
+Sean R. Yes i was at idle, you can see it on the engine instruments
@MegaFPVFlyer8 жыл бұрын
Watch the tachometer (to the left of the heading indicator) Needles split = no engine torque
@kevinvt41748 жыл бұрын
You started your flare at the top of the trees on the last one about 20ft to high but practice make perfect.
@codmott2864 жыл бұрын
he did that on purpose to avoid a full down auto since you cant exactly recover your power instantly with a turbine
@Bansheeboat3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! 👌
@Gwazi5 жыл бұрын
how high are you supposed to flare
@nvdwarriorLtc5 жыл бұрын
Good point Gordon McCoy. Every9one always says the military had the money to spend on dings or burning out skid shoes....but evern with 4000 hours in the huey it was the touchdown that mattered when I had a catastrophic engine failure at 700 feet agl. Nope, let them touchdown....power recoveries are cheating them of valuable realistic training.
@DustyCowdog8 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@user-vi3eg9cm1e8 жыл бұрын
so how do you initiate the autorotation, do you have a timer that tells it to cut off engine power at a certain time? does someone push something the moment before?
@hootgibsonxplane8 жыл бұрын
@ bgast 33...watch his left hand, he lowers the collective to minimum main rotor blade pitch, and reduces the throttle, which is the twist grip throttle on the collective lever, this allows the free-wheeling clutches to kick in and basically with downward and forward momentum, the rotor system drives itself (maintains nominal rpm), the flare up at the end is to be able to raise collective pitch without lowering rpm when you need it most, allows for a nice cushion to slow the aircraft down while not slamming into the ground.
@user-vi3eg9cm1e7 жыл бұрын
I see, thank you for your detailed answer. I did not know there was a freewheeling way of transmitting power (given the right settings and situation of course).
@jamiedee38610 жыл бұрын
What happened on the first try?
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
Had to flare it a little more gently I think
@jamiedee38610 жыл бұрын
Tim Loens Cool, a friend posted your video on Facebook and we were just trying to figure out what happened. I figured the best way was to ask you. Thanks for the reply and good job on the autos!
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
Jamie Dee Thanks!
@DreamAboutSpace7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Can anyone tell me which gauges I should be looking at during this video?
@Touff0137 жыл бұрын
Rotor and Turbine RPM gauge, big one more or less in the middle of the instrument panel. you see the two needles split when the autorotation is initiated.
@snakedriver736 жыл бұрын
Tim Loens, best also be monitoring the airspeed indicator.
@pmc16654779 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@pimuce6 жыл бұрын
Very young pilot 👩✈️
@BobABooey.8 жыл бұрын
Why are you flying left side? And also, how is that an auto if you're not rolling off the throttle?
@LONGIRAFFE8 жыл бұрын
did you not see the needles split?
@BobABooey.8 жыл бұрын
And that's what does not make sense; he's, (or who ever is sitting in the PIC seat) only rolling it off to 90%, (the turbine needle is the larger of the two). If he was rolling it off to flight idle, it would drop to 62% and he'd be getting a low rotor horn as well. The only needle you care about during an auto is the small rotor needle and keeping that in the green. I've never done a auto in any helicopter, 206's, 500's, and 44's that didn't get a low rotor horn during a full down or power recovery auto.
@blackprince2917 жыл бұрын
I have never done an auto in a 206 that produced a low rotor horn. Technique in the 206 is to begin by closing the throttle and then lowering the lever (reverse of R44). Yet rotor RPM stays in the green. Nor have I got low rotor horn in the 500 during auto.
@TheAtrito10 жыл бұрын
Você tá do lado esquerdo ?
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
Sim, porque foi por mim formação de instrutor.
@bantirajjagtap657010 жыл бұрын
very nice
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
thanks
@trading-university.8 жыл бұрын
Nice hover!
@odortiz10 жыл бұрын
damn! that looks stressful.
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
It's all right actually, the Bell is really nice to autorotate in because of the high blade inertia :)
@bornto45514 жыл бұрын
Good job.. ^^
@YoutubeOnlineGaming7 жыл бұрын
Why do pilots put the mic so close to there mouth that would irritate the hell out of me if it rubs on my lip
@Awesymoto7 жыл бұрын
the mic picks up sound but will block out cockpit noise so it has to be close if not touching to be able to pick up your voice.
@heliflightsaviationschool80879 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@Touff0139 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Txman19966 жыл бұрын
Good job. You obviously aren’t Army
@gerhardoesterreicher19073 жыл бұрын
Das sind doch keine Autorotationen!
@wilber5049 ай бұрын
not an auto. needles never split, and landed under power. watch rotor tach.
@apexjailor93492 ай бұрын
You can quite clearly see the needles splitting, the shorter needle is the rotor RPM. It was a power recovery though, so he reintroduced power.
@chancletazoa7843 Жыл бұрын
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@viducce10 жыл бұрын
To bad it wasn't a full on....
@Touff01310 жыл бұрын
yes, companies tend to avoid that because of the risk... More accidents happen during autorotation practise than during actual emergency autos.
@viducce10 жыл бұрын
Tim Loens Of course....I made my CPL on a Jet Ranger as well at Ranger Helicopters ( now called Canadian Helicopters ) in Sault St. Marie / Canada. Total training time 100 hrs 60 on the R22 and 40 on Jet Ranger incl. some slinging time. They always trained the AR's full on even on tarmac, insane noise..., grass and ice...
@TheBlueScarecrow8 жыл бұрын
Practise? A second grade education and this guy is allowed to fly an aircraft over a populated city? Yikes!