This car will depreciate way more than the M2. Something to keep in mind.

More expensive than used m2, less fun and def uglier. I agree though the argument of lap times can go out the window for most people.

You’re right. It’s a daily driver and good for this. But so far away in driving pleasure from the M2 that you can’t even describe it.

How do you know this? Do you have one? Or is it just your opinion? Because what one person likes the other may not

buying a performance

No problem!

Compared to the new M2 it's a thing of beauty!

I wonder how the 2023 M2 being announced soon will measure up

Agree, I had a manual 235i RWD and now have a stage 2 Manual M140i and it is that rawness and the fact you can't break concentration. Makes driving feel special and like an event rather then just sitting in an automatic 4WD robot car.

@@richardbeck818 how did you find the man 235i, my Mrs had one when I had and auto m135i and the auto felt night and day quicker.

@@Neil2022 the auto is definitely quicker, but I just prefer a manual. Just adds to the whole experience. The manual m140i which has 440bhp is a different animal though!

This isnt an M2 nor is it an M2 replacement........common sense here why are people arguing that fact.

YOU ARE CORRECT. ‘JUST NOT QUITE AN M’ .. M’S ARE A WHOLE DIFF CHASSIS. MSPORTS ARE NOT M’S.

I agree ... And the voice

Portimao Blue FTW in my opinion.

When I heard that I was like wtf that's ridiculously heavy for a car like that

AWD and all the modern equipment.

@@Afraz_9n3 How heavy this car is?

@@jhonnydrop7100 Nothing the G21 M340i doesn't have, and that's quite a bit bigger.

OG M2 is the lightest racecar you can get from bmw that alone makes it the best of the lineup for driving fun

@@qna95B Is it really?

@@mariomunoz7167 if you drive by a F80/F82, or a M2C on the street, you wont even realize they are there if your eyes are closed! (im talking here in North America, no opf filter) Contrastly, the OG brings so much drama and fun to the street, it a real keeper for the enthusiast, especially if you have a tune and a M Performance exhaust

@@qna95B I have an ‘18 m2 with a 6 speed myself. That’s why I was asking. Currently fbo on e85. Thanks for appreciating the og, even though it’s not the m2c. I think it sounds way better. I have about 10-11k in positive equity on it. Little miles on the odometer. Bmw dealer here in Houston, TX has been contacting me nonstop that they’re really interested in buying it. They offered me a 2023 m240ix with and all these extras with nothing down, less $/month ect. Like sheesh. That bad? Actually, I considered an m340i. Mostly due to the drivetrain and 2 xtra doors. I think I may regret getting rid of my m2, though. Thoughts?

Nothing funny about an evo COTY that beat McLaren 765 LT. It’s a serious performing car that will never be likely never replicated in the 2 series

Well of course but it is 100k lmao

@@F87Zach yeah that’s true. Gotta be wealthy to buy some of these legend cars

Coming from an m340i I would only trade the might m2comp for an new m2. My car is too fast with only downpipe. It can get 100-200 in only 8,7secs!

trust me, this car feels fast as hell I have a brand new one that i've put 5k miles on so far and when you step on it you get thrown back into your seat

Because it’s essentially a 3/4 series kit with a shorter wheelbase

@@Bimmer_Bill and why has the new BMW/Supra with nearly the same size and the same chassis, engine and transm. a curb weight from 1520 Kg?

@@alengreen589 simple, it’s a shorter (7 inches) RWD two seater. 2/3/4 series are all 4 seaters and AWD adds around 150 lbs alone. The Zupra body might be a little lighter too, but the rwd and two seat configuration (far shorter wheelbase) are the main reasons why it’s almost 400 lbs lighter. BMW doesn’t add lead to its cars to make them heavier. Hahaha.

@@Bimmer_Bill Ok thank you very much for the Info.

@@alengreen589 no worries. I wish the 240i was lighter too. The M2 will be lighter and if they make a special version (CS/CSL) sign me up!

In an ugly apples to ugly oranges comparison, one would need to compare this to a currently unreleased M2. The previous (better looking) generation m240 wasn’t as good looking as the M2, but both are better looking than this.

She’ll be back 😃

Rory is one of the best at doing car content like this right now, KZfaq or otherwise.

no

@@fredericoespinoza why

@@crimsonelite6882 Amazing cars and anyone with petrol in their veins would love how they feel and drive. Staggering high levels of performance and presence. Genuine supercar for Cayman GTS ish money. The ‘NO’ comment is probably in reference to the potential financial trauma. Without qualification, it could just as easily be ‘Yes’ They have proven to need replacement engines, clutches and gearboxes, which could equal the buy price for a decent tidy example. The suspension and steering rack are all run on the same hydraulic system, which can and do, easily cause £30k with mayhem if it goes wrong. Don’t even think about one with carbon ceramic brakes! If something like a window switch breaks, you could face a £3k bill. Many custom and bespoke components! If you can afford a warranty and the insurance, plus a couple of tyres and a service each year, then go for it I say. But that is possibly approaching £10k in planned running costs per year though. Some fairly large contingency will need to be taken into account for the unfortunate, or unforeseen. You could go and buy a 718 GT4 and spend 1/10th of the running costs, with zero contingency required. No warranty to buy and just give it to Porsche if it has an unlikely issue. Better in a lot of ways, for similar money to buy. One is a supercar though, while one is a good sports car. Have you got the means to take the risk? I know I haven’t Thorny Motorsport / Bell & Covill and some others have specialised in servicing and maintaining the older McLaren models. Even offer warranty programmes etc.

I love it when people make definitive statements about a car based only on their blinkered viewpoint 🤔 All relative. I can't comment as you have as I have no direct exposure to these vehicles. And I feel comments are made by people who have no exposure or hands on knowledge either. You come across as the opposite 👍

I'm probably biased because I have the same whip as you but I dont think I'll ever warm up to the looks of any g series bmw, none of them have that heritage anymore angel eyes, sleek styling the light frame, just a shit direction imo but I guess new looks always needs time to grow on people

All M240i Xdrives being built henceforth come with iDrive 8.

@@TheMasterNinjaRyu Yeah, I know, it has the new 'Wide Screen' now. The 4 series has the better Laser Lights, Cooled seats, retractable tow hook, and some other tech. So I was curious if all that is worth the extra

@@Zisuen I would say not seeing as the 4 is worse looking imo as well as not being as good to drive 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@Zisuen the m440i is also heavier thus less dynamically capable (much slower than the m240i around tracks according to fastestlaps) and slower accelerating

M340i looks the best out the three

Lol. Tbh I think they should make them longer but keep the notch. Adds some character. But Im surprised how much I like the looks now

They just didn't spend the money on the steering lol. Porsche did spend time and cash tuning their racks on their test tracks and that's why they have the best EPS on the market. BMW seems to focus more on the powertrain now. And tech gimmicks.

Those older diesels are gradually being effectively excluded from big cities through emissions charges. Perhaps why the package is reasonably priced. But if that’s not an issue (ie you rarely drive in cities) and you don’t miss the latest tech that’s sounds like a good option. No warranty though if it goes bang or something costly fails.

I know what you mean. It’s like it’s built for less competent drivers compared to the last car but on the other hand it is more capable.

BMW doesn't give a shit about driving experience anymore. They all about the numbers and being numb commuter cars now :(

@@papa_pt we just have to buy/keep the older ones that we prefer. They’re lighter and sound better anyway.

@@ShogunsDojo yeah I have an e61 n54 and any new loaners I've had feel more like a Lexus than classic BMW. Even more than weight / sound the worst thing has been completely dead steering since the switch to EPS even tho Porsche figured out how to make it good

I owned the 2018 model, and this new one is more powerful, much quieter, much smoother, and just feels more refined. I guess if you’re tracking the car maybe I would agree with you, but for daily driving, it’s great!