Avengers vs X Men Full Story (Comics Explained)

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Comics Explained

Comics Explained

Жыл бұрын

So Black Panther 2 Wakanda Forever has a new trailer that gives us more insight into why there is a conflict between Wakanda and Atlantis. We don't get all the details, but we get enough to know that Black Panther and the Wakandans are going to war with Namor and the Atlantians. But have you ever wondered why Namor and Black Panther hate each other so much in the first place? Well this video will explain the events of Avengers vs XMen and how the blood feud between Namor and Black Panther started! We even tough a bit on how it ends, but for that story, you'll have to check out our videos on Hickman's Avengers & New Avengers.
▸ Avengers vs. X-Men (AvX or AvsX) is a 2012 crossover event that was featured in comic books published by Marvel Comics. The event, consisting of an eponymous limited series and numerous tie-in books, involves the return of the Phoenix Force and the subsequent war between the Avengers and the X-Men. The event was preceded by the four-issue limited series Avengers: X-Sanction and Avengers vs. X-Men #0. Avengers vs. X-Men also ties into the limited series AVX: VS, described as "the fight book" which expands upon many of the one-on-one battles featured in the main series, the digital series; Avengers vs. X-Men: Infinite, and into a number of ongoing series including Avengers, Avengers Academy, New Avengers, Secret Avengers, Uncanny X-Men, Wolverine and the X-Men and X-Men: Legacy. The event was succeeded by the limited series AvX: Consequences.
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@birdman8005
@birdman8005 Жыл бұрын
I was always a huge Spider-man fan growing up but since I’ve started listening to your videos, I’ve expanded my interests into X-Men and Avengers!
@gangsterbear187
@gangsterbear187 Жыл бұрын
Nooby
@RiverOpossum
@RiverOpossum Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this full compilation. I stay fairly busy while at work so I can’t constantly scroll or look for a podcast. Having these parts compiled into a single video let’s me enjoy the content and learn more about Marvel without losing focus on my daily tasks.
@cayluhb1113
@cayluhb1113 Жыл бұрын
What did he give you?
@Blackapple510
@Blackapple510 Жыл бұрын
I love how Namor doing this stains black panther and Namors relationship for ever. It builds such a great story of kings and not superheros, And explored what it means to rule,
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure Жыл бұрын
T'Challa put the blade where it belongs lol
@AndNoted
@AndNoted Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It adds a whole new dimension to both characters and poses a looming threat to both kingdoms
@a.c.slater7989
@a.c.slater7989 Жыл бұрын
They're frenemies
@sonny061188
@sonny061188 Жыл бұрын
You can always count on Rob to give us a comic issue/series related to the release of a new MCU trailer.
@AstralCloudz
@AstralCloudz Жыл бұрын
its starting to rub me the wrong way tbh its like his channel is only focusing on things from the movies
@sonny061188
@sonny061188 Жыл бұрын
@@AstralCloudz nope, if you’re an active viewer of his channel you’d know that’s not the case.
@Pridefallen975
@Pridefallen975 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you definitely can
@CoconutsGlow
@CoconutsGlow Жыл бұрын
@@AstralCloudz Arguably leads to more clicks and feeds from the KZfaq algorithm. Nuffin wrong with that. Rob gotta eat.
@MELOSINCE87
@MELOSINCE87 Жыл бұрын
Your channel has really inspired me to get back into comic books after a 20 year hiatus. 🙌This is one of the stories I have been looking at but haven’t gotten around to
@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS
@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS Жыл бұрын
Your c0¢k is huuuuge
@tychi8826
@tychi8826 Жыл бұрын
Always thankful to Rob for getting me back into various comics. I missed this X-men series so it’s good to see this
@editsbybrycet186
@editsbybrycet186 Жыл бұрын
It’s the little things for me when it comes to Ryan Cooglers ability to direct a film. The fact that Namor flies akin to a hummingbird because of the hummingbirds prominence in Central American religion and ideology is just phenomenal.
@gwenstacyspidercat4294
@gwenstacyspidercat4294 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@fffan2214
@fffan2214 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that gave me goosebumps too!!
@richardkoen6848
@richardkoen6848 Жыл бұрын
Too bad Namor has NOTHING to do with any surface culture.
@m4g1cM1KE
@m4g1cM1KE Жыл бұрын
Also, hummingbirds are only a part of ONE Central American countries religion and ideology...
@zacwilson6231
@zacwilson6231 3 ай бұрын
That movie was completely ruined by shuri being the Black Panther. Could have been awesome but if they weren't going to recast tchalla which I respect that decision but there's no reason to continue the Black Panther movies without the real black panther. That's more disrespectful than just recasting him
@kamenrangerzeo8251
@kamenrangerzeo8251 Жыл бұрын
Namor may have destroyed Wakanda, but his real mission was successfully destroying Black Panther and Storm's marriage.
@dntwasteit8547
@dntwasteit8547 Жыл бұрын
Robs been listening to his audience he’s stopped the unnecessary random black bolt slander. Love that
@FFmaxxx
@FFmaxxx Жыл бұрын
This is an old video.
@renutus1580
@renutus1580 Жыл бұрын
Nah it's necessary
@nmoore2586
@nmoore2586 Жыл бұрын
Naw Black Bolt sucks
@brendonharris9310
@brendonharris9310 Жыл бұрын
Nah f black bolt
@john-tobeymaguirecena
@john-tobeymaguirecena Жыл бұрын
Rob shouting out Arin is something I never knew I needed.
@koleyturner8491
@koleyturner8491 Жыл бұрын
Lol Why exactly would you need that again? Other than you sucking up
@carsonwroten6867
@carsonwroten6867 Жыл бұрын
He has a few times and I love it every time
@john-tobeymaguirecena
@john-tobeymaguirecena Жыл бұрын
@@carsonwroten6867 yeah I know he did it a few years back when Arin first asked the comic question Rob always refers to lol
@WannabeWryter
@WannabeWryter Жыл бұрын
When does that happen?
@yurinoworry
@yurinoworry Жыл бұрын
@@WannabeWryter right around 50 seconds to a minute, not sure of the exact time, and yeah, he’s done it for a long time tbh, praise the consistent Rob
@yoyomayne
@yoyomayne Жыл бұрын
Honestly it was this story that got me hooked to your channel a few years ago when you posted this in 2 videos separately, been a subscriber ever since
@edgardevoe4859
@edgardevoe4859 Жыл бұрын
the timing of this with the Black Panther trailer dropping, is impeccable
@tomservo4299
@tomservo4299 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love that Rob is such an unbreakable street level hero of the people that he would use his fraction of the pheonix to not worry about price at best buy
@antwan1357
@antwan1357 Жыл бұрын
thanks for making this it cheered me up so much.
@Locreai
@Locreai Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed for the evening. Thanks.
@justinsmelser1783
@justinsmelser1783 Жыл бұрын
👏 love listening to you explain these stories.
@jeffreycrowder2866
@jeffreycrowder2866 Жыл бұрын
Great quality and informative video
@gameganggang6
@gameganggang6 Жыл бұрын
❤️ i needed a life distraction ! Thank you
@xspence2404
@xspence2404 Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic!
@adamthomas5327
@adamthomas5327 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is my favourite on youtube. If you ever do a Q and A i would be there for sure.
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Mr. Editor for being like us in that we only know facts about the HALO Jump from Metal Gear Solid. Excellent work, Editor. Age hasn't slowed you down one bit. And this story taught us 2 very important things: Cyclops can hold onto a grudge for months. Black Panther can hold onto a grudge for _years._
@stevengarcia1193
@stevengarcia1193 Жыл бұрын
I am only 15 minutes into the video and I don't know if you're going to cover it but there is I think it was a standalone issue where the second half of the comic book was basically Cyclops talking about having the Phoenix force be a part of him and he goes to the moon and everything the art is amazing and it is one of my favorite X-Men stories ever
@TheFactorySealedCollector.
@TheFactorySealedCollector. Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait until the MCU does Avenger vs X-Men!
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@MrPlazmaWalker
@MrPlazmaWalker Жыл бұрын
Just thinking about this story!!!!!
@killerklownTV
@killerklownTV 16 күн бұрын
Jeans face at 5:55 is WILD 💀 Someone really drew that sat there and said “ ya this looks good” 😹
@joshuaa2278
@joshuaa2278 Жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@harmonicartist
@harmonicartist Жыл бұрын
Beyond Omega Level: Rob’s Hype
@edwarddawson42
@edwarddawson42 Жыл бұрын
Its been a while since we got a longer video. It was done really well too.
@ormoffat
@ormoffat Жыл бұрын
I didn't know you chatted with Charlie from Emergency Awesome. I'm a big fan of both of you guys! Nice to hear pop culture KZfaq is chill.
@scottsummers5751
@scottsummers5751 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Even with event fatigue this story still feels special.
@tigizarts1105
@tigizarts1105 Жыл бұрын
Ema Frost's body count is crazy. She reminds me of that snoop dogg song🎶 "you wan it, I gat it, dripping like water" 🎵
@IStevenSeagal
@IStevenSeagal Жыл бұрын
Candy
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 Жыл бұрын
🍬
@nohedidnt777
@nohedidnt777 Жыл бұрын
Let's go guys 👍
@frantictoast3741
@frantictoast3741 7 ай бұрын
Damn, heard the Kings and Generals music at around 20 mins. Wild hearing that here lol
@chaelan6014
@chaelan6014 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the ending was pretty nice. It was a story of Wanda having a part in pushing the mutants to desperation and Hope having the power to wield both Phoenix and Wanda's powers. Phoenix 5 cyclops touched Wanda and burned as seen in one of the panels showing a potential polarity in power. I feel like, in nature of K'un Lun, Hope and Wanda are Yin and Yang and the resistance of Chaos Magic to the Phoenix force and both their reality warping powers, it was expelled. I'd say it's the start of Wanda's redemption but you failed to show it as that because we focused on the potential parallel of this Namor and MCU's upcoming Namor. I get it, but it's really necessary to put into perspective her role in this story as like this Avatar: the Last Airbender Aang and Zuko arcs with Aang being Hope (I mean, she's kind of an Avatar wielding all these powers) and Wanda being Zuko (villain going through redemption).
@kydwykyd
@kydwykyd Жыл бұрын
Except Wanda didn’t expel the Phoenix Force, Hope did. It’s shown in another comic panel. Also, you can read Wanda telling Hope that only *she* has the power to let it go, clearly Wanda meant that she couldn’t do it for her.
@chaelan6014
@chaelan6014 Жыл бұрын
@@kydwykyd yea because wanda is incapable of wielding phoenix. I know it's a stretch but phoenix 5 cyclops touching wanda and there's an opposing force that burns cyclops and lets her walk away without a fight. I saw this as the key to ultimately defeating the phoenix but everyone was so focused on hope. Wanda had a hand in it too because without her I doubt hope could have expelled phoenix with the power of... phoenix. Hope is very powerful but she needed the right type of power to copy to fulfill the feat. Yea ofc Wanda can't do it for her bcz the phoenix force is a multiversal entity BUT my point in my comment was that it's unfair to call this story bad when Wanda's redemption arc simultaneous to Hope's discovery of her power is amazing to me and how it wrapped up in the end. They used Strange's illusions with Wanda's mere presence to intimidate the Phoenix 5. She was the only one they feared.
@arunanandan7009
@arunanandan7009 Жыл бұрын
Wanda 🔥
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@cancerstinks1
@cancerstinks1 Жыл бұрын
Is this a rerelease of an older video? I’m getting a weird sense of deja-vu
@DPBandCHG
@DPBandCHG Жыл бұрын
Was looking for and failing to find a Beyond Omega level or character explained video for the main man and somehow you haven't done a video for Lobo yet?! What madness is this?
@Quicksymphony
@Quicksymphony Жыл бұрын
At the time I bought all of the different types of Avengers vs X-Men. It was a good series of comics and side stories. Plus some of them had blank covers which was cool.
@gnarlybastard8687
@gnarlybastard8687 Жыл бұрын
Why I love cyclops. I’ve read Phoenix saga/dark, inferno, x-cutioner song. Astonishing, jus everything to do wit Phoenix. Jus coo to see how far we come since Claremont.
@GregDeocampoogle
@GregDeocampoogle Жыл бұрын
i loved the symmetry of wanda saying "no more phoenix" and restoring the mutants....
@marcheslop6072
@marcheslop6072 Жыл бұрын
Rob I’d love to listen to your videos on Spotify I’m not sure how hard it is or if that’s something you even want to do but if you could put your work on Spotify I’d listen 24/7
@Gemini_Godhand
@Gemini_Godhand Жыл бұрын
At 17:01 I just realized that Cyclops has a Ruby Quartz visor with a matching Ruby Quartz cod piece!
@jibril2473
@jibril2473 Жыл бұрын
The lates 2000s/early 2010s was a weird time for the X-men. It was almost like the writers wanted them to become marvels villains
@WilliamHButtlicker
@WilliamHButtlicker Жыл бұрын
Hey Scott!! You could be, like, an… advisor or something! Get it? Ad-visor? …visor? 😂😂
@Wezt334
@Wezt334 Жыл бұрын
See I always saw Hope wearing the white costume to mean this was Jean as WPOTC working through Hope to fix the world that was broken by returning mutants, the fact that it was only for a few moments meant that Jean as WPOTC left as the work was done.
@jasonprime3574
@jasonprime3574 Жыл бұрын
Where is the best place to get full event stories online?! Please let me know!!!
@jimbrown5091
@jimbrown5091 Жыл бұрын
No flares on a HALO jump. That's for skydiving demos, it's pretty and it let's us spectators see them clearly, the exact opposite of what would be wanted in a combat jump.
@thefonsotube
@thefonsotube Жыл бұрын
Phoenix is the sum psionic power of every living thing in this universe. It's power set was explained in that Marvel comics characters encyclopedia comics series thing (I don't recall the actual name of the thing...but they printed them once every few years or so) back in the lat 80's early 90's
@TheAwesomesauser
@TheAwesomesauser Жыл бұрын
Great video. Quick heads up, Franklin Richards isn't a mutant anymore. Was retconned to be he had altered his own genome subconsciously or something, I don't remember which issue but it was in the latest FF run when Franklin tried to use the Forever gate to travel to Krakoa
@kydwykyd
@kydwykyd Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed listening to your rendition of this storyline. The only thing I noticed you got wrong (and other people commenting) is Wanda expelling the Phoenix from Hope. Wanda clearly tells Hope in AvX that only she (Hope) has the power to let it go. It’s also shown in another comic where the cuckoo sisters who are witnessing this fight from cerebral explain that “Hope did it. She saved us. She saved the whole world. She dissipated the Phoenix. She broke it apart and sent it into the…omg look…new mutants.” I feel this is important to take note because even when Wanda used all her power against Scott who has 1/2 of the Phoenix Five power, she “couldn’t phase him with all she had”. So clearly she isn’t strong enough to expel the host from someone. Also, I believe it was Jean Grey who telepathically calmed Scott Dark Phoenix down and told him to let go as well. She is in the white hot room where he tried to visit when he obtained the power of the Phoenix and she rejected him and sent him back to Earth. Jean has been the only person on comic panel literally pulling/taking the Phoenix Force out of other hosts (Emma Frost/Rachel Summers). Even through space time in another universe when she called it from Rachel.
@cosmicentity1077
@cosmicentity1077 Жыл бұрын
correct! wanda fans just don't read.
@kydwykyd
@kydwykyd Жыл бұрын
@@cosmicentity1077 lol, I don’t mind ignorant stans, I expect it from them. However, I did expect Rob to know better when explaining the story. Granted he probably didn’t read the comics I did that explained what was going on in AvX in more detail.
@kevincena3
@kevincena3 Жыл бұрын
You conveniently drop this the day the Black Panther 2 trailer drops
@yoyomayne
@yoyomayne Жыл бұрын
Conveniently or obviously because?
@DLex93904
@DLex93904 Жыл бұрын
One thing I recently learned is there has been tensions between Atlantis and Wakanda before AvX, like the time the Hulk jumped from Atlantis and Wakanda launched a retaliation missile at Atlantis
@erobos111
@erobos111 Жыл бұрын
Brightburn Request👿Beyond Omega Level:Kulan Gath!
@Anodoin
@Anodoin Жыл бұрын
Timing!
@IAmPovidone
@IAmPovidone Жыл бұрын
I love that Grant Morrison implied Magneto and his mutant denizens were drinking Irn-Bru
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 9 ай бұрын
It would be interesting if the mcu introduced mutants into the world by Wanda doing a reverse of house of m. She gets overwhelmed at how everyone she’s using as shields or pawns keeps failing, so she says fine, I need more powerful pawns, more mutants. And a bunch of people across earth gain a mutant gene.
@m.y1152
@m.y1152 Жыл бұрын
Rob you should re master it
@NoLandGod
@NoLandGod Жыл бұрын
14:49 juggernaut definitely should of got some of that Phoenix force energy
@edwarddawson42
@edwarddawson42 Жыл бұрын
That would've been amazing.
@cosmicentity1077
@cosmicentity1077 Жыл бұрын
Hope turns into the White Phoenix, not the crown version. There's only one White Phoenix of the Crown, and that's Jean Grey watching from the White Hot Room. The Crown in White Phoenix of the Crown is still unknown but it was mentioned in Hulk where he meets the One Below All. I personally think that the Crown is the White Hot Room, The White Phoenix of the Crown controls the very existence and timeline of the Marvel Multiverse.
@jonathancampbell7798
@jonathancampbell7798 Жыл бұрын
Phoenix Cyclop's suit is Nightwings
@jermainekngdom3154
@jermainekngdom3154 Жыл бұрын
Cyclops was right. Also cyclops had the void in his head.
@Nytellem
@Nytellem Жыл бұрын
I always wonder, did he read ALLLLL of these comics or did he just do good research on each subject? Because man, this is a lot of information to retain.
@punchabunchabuttons
@punchabunchabuttons Жыл бұрын
In case you will read this... Have you ever done one over the time where Cyclops is missing an eye and Wolverine missing a hand? I thought it was the X-Men: Schism video but it's not. I saw that cover in the 90's but never read it but i was a surprise that these two came to that result. I was always amazed that Wolverine could lose a hand by the optic blast. This idea made me think that Cyclops was Wolverine's main antagonist (on top of all the Jean Grey stuff). If you haven't done it, this could be a good idea for a video maybe? Cheers dude. Love the videos.
@misterknite
@misterknite 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like AoA Cyclops and Logan
@SwagDaSlik
@SwagDaSlik Жыл бұрын
Peter was cold as ice in the beginning especially after he got his brother's powers
@Tflash13
@Tflash13 Жыл бұрын
Could you do the Spider-Man side story? It’s epic
@frayfra
@frayfra Жыл бұрын
What is the very first song on the background of this video ?
@christianmorton7260
@christianmorton7260 Жыл бұрын
can we get a video of all characters who make it to the end of time / universe?
@cosmicentity1077
@cosmicentity1077 Жыл бұрын
40:53 that's actually Jean Grey as WPOTC, she's interfered. Jean has been in AvX talking to Scott as Dark Phoenix. Jean as WPOTC, has taken many fraction of the Phoenix, she takes out the Phoenix of Rachel, The Frost/Cuckos, and Scott.
@kydwykyd
@kydwykyd Жыл бұрын
I made a similar comment along with Hope being the one who expelled the Phoenix out of her, not Wanda. There is a comic panel which the cuckoos clearly say it was Hope who did it and saved the world and restored mutants.
@cosmicentity1077
@cosmicentity1077 Жыл бұрын
@@kydwykydsame! this is what i always say to all wanda stans who think their fave is the one who banished the Phoenix. Wanda also says in a panel that Hope has the power to let it go but the fans don't know how to read. I mean it's White Phoenix,(might be) the most powerful form of Phoenix, it can't be banished by just some words.
@kydwykyd
@kydwykyd Жыл бұрын
@@cosmicentity1077 exactly. Please sort comments by newest and read mine. I have the comic proof where it states that Hope expelled the force out into the world to bring new mutants.
@nicolaseasdale1394
@nicolaseasdale1394 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video as always Rob but I got to disagree with you about your Avengers X-Men take. The Avengers have THOR and the HULK.. who are both basically just power incarnate and not to mention they both have insane telepathic immunity. I can't see how the Avengers were meant to be weaker than the X-Men. To your point about the X-Men and the mutants just having wildly ludicrous powers, there are all kinds of powerhouse Avengers that have wildly ludicrous powers as well, like Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, Sentry, THOR, Hercules, HULK, Vision etc.
@totomomo18
@totomomo18 Жыл бұрын
Always in Rob videos he said some power is so powerful and then something happen that kills that power in seconds :)
@AndyonBlast
@AndyonBlast Жыл бұрын
I like your voice man I’m not you know But you got a nice comic reader voice
@Bushybrow000
@Bushybrow000 Жыл бұрын
During Reginald Hudlin's Black Panther run, Namor & Black Panther were really good respectful friends. When Shuri took over as Black Panther and she accused Namor for the T'Challa's condition after an attack, he quickly showed her what happens when you piss him off. Thank the FF for intervening otherwise Wakanda would be down 2 Black Panthers.
@Daveyboy_GolfR
@Daveyboy_GolfR Жыл бұрын
Just so I'm clear, Rob's just doin a revamp of 2012s Avengers vs X-Men from Brian Michael bendis correct? I Actually never read it, and I'm about to watch Rob's full video of avengers vs X-Men vs eternals. Would I be better off watching this and then watching Rob's full video of avengers vs X-Men vs eternals? Or does it not matter? Thanks in advance
@chrisbullock6477
@chrisbullock6477 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Looking at all this just made me realize I never saw just how anglo and white the comic space is at least mainstream comics.
@jaynewman6420
@jaynewman6420 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if there was a reason or my memory is foobarred. I remember Cyclops being the last of the original five, with Jean (I think) being the first. I could be wrong, though. Yes, I read the X-Men when they weren't cool. Then I quit because they had too many different mutant books.
@arrowsmith8977
@arrowsmith8977 Жыл бұрын
I loved Spider-Mans part. Very underrated part in the story.
@morganlemke
@morganlemke Жыл бұрын
Baron Mordo explained please!
@Odahigh
@Odahigh Жыл бұрын
Rob would you be willing to make a list of the comics we have to read to understand some of these stories? Like just the issues we have to read to get the full story for ourselves
@thomasbrown6527
@thomasbrown6527 Жыл бұрын
I have a close friend who served in the military, and he said HALO jumps are scary
@ForceTahd
@ForceTahd Жыл бұрын
I hear shoutouts to EGO Raptor in my dreams.
@zoezelni1757
@zoezelni1757 Жыл бұрын
HALO jumps are fun as hell
@wildriftprofessor1782
@wildriftprofessor1782 Жыл бұрын
Namor looks great in the trailer! Lesssgoooo!!
@wouldjagaming
@wouldjagaming Жыл бұрын
Peter Petrelli was a beast.
@einz_0
@einz_0 Жыл бұрын
I want a comics explained on the kool-aid man and his adventures
@shockwavethenewx-man9301
@shockwavethenewx-man9301 Жыл бұрын
Beyond Omega Level: Icon (DC Milestone Comics)
@aaronwilder2775
@aaronwilder2775 Жыл бұрын
Character Explained: Hero Zero (Dark Horse Comics) Character Explained: Johnny Thunder (DC Comics)
@jeffreysnuffin5341
@jeffreysnuffin5341 Жыл бұрын
Those mutants were chosen because they were a part of Cyclops Extinction Team during that run.
@EtotheFnD
@EtotheFnD Жыл бұрын
Rob...Rippaverse...cover it buddy...like only you can.
@kingnick1635
@kingnick1635 Жыл бұрын
Nah, Captain got his ass beat by Wolverine...only reason it went the other way was Hank Pym
@IStevenSeagal
@IStevenSeagal Жыл бұрын
He also said "Dr. Strange, Scarlet Witch and Hulk are Avengers most powerful assets" when Marvel have literally classed Thor superior to any Avengers members, bar none. Also Come to think of it Dr. Strange is a New Avenger, not a pure Avenger, he's more like a Defender, just Wolverine is an X-Men.
@rachetmarvel931
@rachetmarvel931 2 ай бұрын
​@IStevenSeagal I mean the same as hulk and Namor,they are both defenders.
@JengoFate
@JengoFate Жыл бұрын
I admit I’ve only watched 11 minutes of this video but it leaves out a bunch of important info, like how Cap had an entire helicarrier filed with avengers with him when he went to Utopia which escalated things, he leaves out the points Scott makes about X for extinction etc. Not only does this video leave out why cap and wolverine were fighting but implies it’s because wolverine was changing sides But it’s actually because cap can’t trust Logan not to try and kill hope again, wolverine loses the fight (which involved giant man not just cap) and is kicked out the plane only to fight hope anyway, he literally tells her he is going to kill her and she talks him into helping her instead. Where as this video makes it seem like wolverine was just flipping back and forth between sides which is just so wrong. Cyclops’s plan, to train hope to use the Phforce to bring back mutants because there were less than 200 of them left in existence worked. The avengers should have worked with the xmen to train hope, not charged into a sovereign nation and demand they hand over their national treasure. Anyone reading this, go read the books, this video does not do this story justice, the avengers act like tyrants. Cap even formed the uncanny avengers because he knew what Scott said to him on the beach was not wrong. Cyclops was right, the force of death and rebirth did bring back the mutants, I honestly think that if Scott and Steve just sat down and talked man to man without the army at Steve’s back, without Steve demanding to take hope. The fight would have been avoided and they could have trained hope together.
@makisbizarreadventure4669
@makisbizarreadventure4669 5 ай бұрын
100% agreed and this should be pinned. Cyclops was right
@AxelordSMIJES
@AxelordSMIJES Жыл бұрын
Oh man - that takes me back talking about the show Heroes. That show had SOOO much potential and they fucked right into the ground after a single season, maybe 2 if I'm being generous. But yeah, Peter, Sylar, Claire, the Man with the Horn Rimmed Glasses, Hiro and Sayeed (I think?). Sofa king great for so fucking short a time.
@simonjoyfool7714
@simonjoyfool7714 Жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, can you explain: Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)
@NinchuRevenge3
@NinchuRevenge3 Жыл бұрын
They were also dealing with their Sony and Fox contracts I believe
@vernonharris9344
@vernonharris9344 Жыл бұрын
Marvel's plan for the Avengers in comics since 2005: "How do we make the Avengers interesting?" "Put some X-Men in it." "Some, sir.....?" "ALL. I meant ALL."
@pugman9672
@pugman9672 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea ego raptor read x men he never struck me as someone who would read comic considering he struggles to read the in game tutorials lol
@sird2333
@sird2333 Жыл бұрын
Good for Namor. Hated that place.
@taydrms6932
@taydrms6932 Жыл бұрын
Wow this was a really good story with an ending really just falls off
@syttorak7629
@syttorak7629 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the whole writing themselves into a corner part. I can't stand when somebody takes a great story and destroys the ending. Now if it was a movie it would have been cool if at the end it showed like a glimmer in Hope Summer's eye or something to show that the Phoenix Force wasn't really gone or something like that. But if it really ended it the way it did I mean I didn't even hear anything about the incredible hulk after they asked him for help. Totally demanding like terrible F- ending
@Cypher5235
@Cypher5235 Жыл бұрын
Wooooo, egoraptor!
@Coldbloodchrisadams
@Coldbloodchrisadams Жыл бұрын
I’d give my next paycheck for you to do second coming
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