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Vivo X Fold 3 VS Honor Magic V2 -My Winner Is....

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Average Dad

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Күн бұрын

It's the comparison you have been asking for... the Vivo X Fold 3 VS the Honor Magic V2, who comes out on top?
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@ecocadia
@ecocadia 4 ай бұрын
I moved from the Z Fold 4 to the Global V2 last month and couldn't be happier. The deal on Three UK ended up being £734 for the V2. For that it's the slimmest foldable, full Global with Google apps, full pen support which works great, full desktop mode and wireless desktop mode all of which are my non-negotiables for living one device with lapdocks and portable monitors. It's going to be a while before there's a better alternative!
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
That's great! in fairness, the Oneplus Open is a better alternative already but i know what you mean
@ecocadia
@ecocadia 4 ай бұрын
No desktop mode though so a no go for me.
@ZhuBaBa1974
@ZhuBaBa1974 4 ай бұрын
I one-up you: Honor Magic V2 Ultimate Edition 16GB/1TB configuration. China-only availability with 2 years (China only) warranty (bought when I'm in China), and with FULL Google support (it's Google Play Store certified!). Still the BEST, THINNEST, and LIGHTEST foldable in my opinion ...
@marcelontech
@marcelontech 4 ай бұрын
Thats a great deal mate, well done. Did you trade in your G Fold 4?
@ecocadia
@ecocadia 4 ай бұрын
​@@marcelontechI bought my Z Fold 4 a year ago for £680 on eBay, and resold it for £580, so only cost £100 for the year.
@maddada
@maddada Ай бұрын
Waiting on your video about the Magic V3! Looks really promising, might cancel my Fold 6 trade-in and get it instead.
@abiolacomputing
@abiolacomputing 4 ай бұрын
I got my vivo fold 3 pro few minutes ago. I setup the google pay and I used it at the store. It works completely fine on my mastercard no problem
@user-zv4pj3zl8z
@user-zv4pj3zl8z Ай бұрын
Do you own the Chinese version
@Markus56165
@Markus56165 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Some advice. The ridiculous claims by manufacturers stating any phone screen gets 3000, 4000 + nits of brightness is beyond stupid and incredibly misleading. That’s in like 1% of the actual screen and only in very specific situations. It’s perfectly fine to list those specs, but when doing comparisons, please give your interpretations of the actual perceived brightness differences versus just the differences in specs listed on paper.
@geertjanssens4789
@geertjanssens4789 4 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply, the replacement of the screen indeed took about 3 weeks, and only costed me 65 euros for sending, that's including insurance
@ericbrink8305
@ericbrink8305 4 ай бұрын
I have the V2 chinese rom and will get de Vivo 3 pro in 3 days. Will make the comparison also. Thanks for being the first to show us 👍🏼
@Tom-ts5qd
@Tom-ts5qd Ай бұрын
So how is it
@ericbrink8305
@ericbrink8305 Ай бұрын
Sold my V2 and using the Vivo now. Better camera and software. Still miss the V2 because of weight and thinness
@kev70705
@kev70705 4 ай бұрын
When I got my honor v2 I got £500 cash back, plus £164 for my old pixel 7 and free set of free bluetooth head phones rrp£450 give or take. For me this gives the honor magic v2 the win. The phone has been great no problem most days I finish with about 40% battery left I am not a heavy user of my phone so it good to know I can push it more if I wanted to
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
me too... point?
@kev70705
@kev70705 4 ай бұрын
@@AverageDadOfficial point is worth looking at the deals when it comes to price of the 2 phones that you have compared as the deals on the Chinese variant and global variant for the honor might just help people decide on which one to buy
@saqqawattuhb7505
@saqqawattuhb7505 4 ай бұрын
I paid £95 to post my HMV2 to Wonda Hong Kong ot get the hinge replaced. Took three weeks in total.
@manmute98
@manmute98 4 ай бұрын
I also need to get mine sent due to black hot patch on internal screen when Unfolded. How did you book in the repair to Honor, once you sent phone off to WondaMobile?
@saqqawattuhb7505
@saqqawattuhb7505 4 ай бұрын
@@manmute98 I e-mailed Wonda with my purchase details, they replied with postage address.
@fatphoca5009
@fatphoca5009 4 ай бұрын
Just imagine how much bigger the gap will be with the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro
@justindavis4029
@justindavis4029 4 ай бұрын
Man I want a Vivo X Fold 3 but I just upgraded to a Galaxy S24 Ultra. Maybe next time around! Great video!
@rkazares
@rkazares Ай бұрын
Just watched your video and have to say it was right after I purchased the pro version of the phone I didn't really know the difference is between weight and size or thickness until you pointed it out the difference in price wasn't the deciding factor ultimately the Gen 3 has AI capability built in which I do not think exist in the Gen 2 there might actually be a difference in the future but I really appreciated your video
@ianthomas127
@ianthomas127 4 ай бұрын
Google pay you need to change the default from vivo wallet. Then it works fine. I think I tend to delete the vivo one so it does not switch back.
@pixelgaming7261
@pixelgaming7261 4 ай бұрын
OnePlus Open or Vivo X Fold 3?
@shadowfallenable
@shadowfallenable 4 ай бұрын
Vivo and Honor are nice... BUT there is just something different with the OnePlus Fold software experience that I cant just get enough off. That phone with a better design (especially the camera + BMW android auto support) would be a just perfect.
@morm2173
@morm2173 4 ай бұрын
Do you still think the Huawei mate x5 fold is the best?
@booda22
@booda22 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video, but i have a question regarding the chinese rom on the vivo, aside from the android auto and google pay not working can you tell me exactly what else doesn't function as intended? And do the chinese notifications pop up?
@JimJames113
@JimJames113 Ай бұрын
Thanks bro.. that esim comment was the biggest deal breaker. Honor it iz... Thanks for getting me off the fence
@AceOfHearts001
@AceOfHearts001 2 ай бұрын
Hi Average Dad, thanks a lot.... any way to get stylus on the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro?
@tiffanyorlane2444
@tiffanyorlane2444 4 ай бұрын
Thank you to be the first showing us this phone. Noe in Europe or France. Thank you :)
@badder002
@badder002 4 ай бұрын
thanks that you made such a long detailed video but not one shot of the two phones together, no comparing them if you don't show me what they look like e.g dimensions ,camera bump, screen brightness 2500 vs 4500 nits , weird no?
@vincetmy
@vincetmy 4 ай бұрын
Not sure if it is true - a sales personnel told me that I need to occasionally unfold the HM V2 so that the hinge doesn't get kaput prematurely as that the hinge may not be covered by the extended warranty if it's owner's fault. She further advised that I should unfold the V2 while charging. 1st time I heard the aforesaid. What do you think?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Not heard that but the hinge is definitely covered under warranty
@vincetmy
@vincetmy 4 ай бұрын
​@@AverageDadOfficial Noted, TQ for your prompt response.
@f50koenigg
@f50koenigg 4 ай бұрын
I think Im gonna have to wait for the V3 to actually compare the two. Also whats the title of the NCS music that you used?
@user-ik8wd9vm7r
@user-ik8wd9vm7r Ай бұрын
Now the vivo x fold 2 and the honor v2 cost about the same. Which one should I get?. The vivo x fold 3 is still cheaper than the new honor v3 though
@DillonBlair
@DillonBlair 4 ай бұрын
Of ALL of the foldable phones that you have used, which one is your all time favorite outter display?
@aliasgharkhoyee9501
@aliasgharkhoyee9501 4 ай бұрын
For me the Pixel Fold wins easily.
@marcoferay5751
@marcoferay5751 Ай бұрын
Maybe it’s early now but would you be able in the next future to share your thoughts about the Xiaomi mix fold 4 coming out tomorrow? Will you get one?
@sylvesterwatson314
@sylvesterwatson314 4 ай бұрын
Amazing one can change ones phone every 12 weeks 😂 well done on another amazing comparison
@migueltrujillo341
@migueltrujillo341 2 күн бұрын
Which one can I get in the states?
@akashvarma4427
@akashvarma4427 4 ай бұрын
Mine Vivo s fold3 pro is already in my city, getting it on monday... Thanks to these videos i was able to send my Honor magic v2 back on time and waited for vivo otherwise i would have regretted my choice
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Good choice
@MarioR23
@MarioR23 17 күн бұрын
The only problem with Huawei phones (Honor) they have a lot of government restrictions here in the US
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 16 күн бұрын
Honor are not Huawei sir and there are no restrictions
@paulwirjawan2387
@paulwirjawan2387 2 ай бұрын
I have Honor Magic V2. Front glass is really weak. I cracked my front screen twice already even though I put screen protector on it 😢. Look forward to change it to Vivo X Fold 3 as I have seen rigorous drop test on the phone.
@marcoferay5751
@marcoferay5751 Ай бұрын
I am looking forward for the v3
@DaRazorback
@DaRazorback 4 ай бұрын
Great video as usual.
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate that
@AndyT3ch
@AndyT3ch 4 ай бұрын
Great Video. I don't understand why Vivo only sell this in China. I get they have to sell at a premium price if they release it globally but a China only release puts it against Huawei Foldable phones and they are out of this world. I guess Chinese people must buy Vivo phones over Huawei but I struggle to fully understand why. Maybe I'm missing something 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Babus0928
@Babus0928 3 ай бұрын
I have Vivo xfold1 and honor v2 and both are using now.. As daily user v2 is better bcz its light weight and slim good battery back up. Should be improve the software. Vivo1 quite thick bit heavier.. And big screen compare to v2 and zfold5
@dp5007
@dp5007 4 ай бұрын
can someone pls clarify.I have the honor v2 chinese with google update but no android auto. Does the chinese x fold 3 pro have same or its the old alternative Gbox etc needed which s a no go for me due to delays and notifications etc? Android auto i can live without but not the rest
@qwerty977
@qwerty977 4 ай бұрын
What's the camera sensor of it? I did some research but found none
@YouTubeMX-t1i
@YouTubeMX-t1i 3 күн бұрын
got the v2 Chinese edition and no Esim and no wifi calling support 😢
@kendall316uk4
@kendall316uk4 4 ай бұрын
@AverageDadOfficial Great video as always, though interested in the pro version with a SD Gen3. Actually been trying to find out more info on when contract foldables with a SD Gen3 are coming to the likes of O2 in the UK. Would that be something you or your sources are able to find out?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Coming soon!
@kendall316uk4
@kendall316uk4 4 ай бұрын
@AverageDadOfficial That's exactly what O2 keep telling me 😂😂
@ASmith-vl2km
@ASmith-vl2km 2 ай бұрын
Being light weight is important when it comes to big phones like these.
@zapatatapaz
@zapatatapaz 4 ай бұрын
My vivo x fold PLUS has been very good with its periscope camera, is the vivo x fold 3 periscope AND speakers any better?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
No periscope on x fold 3... pay attention
@bloodydawn
@bloodydawn 4 ай бұрын
Buy a foldable phone with only one year of warranty is too risky for me. Screen problems after a while are common in this such of devices.
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
?? all/most phones are 1 year warranty, hate to disappoint you
@bloodydawn
@bloodydawn 4 ай бұрын
@@AverageDadOfficial here in Spain, 3 years, 2 years in EU.
@Sacify
@Sacify 4 ай бұрын
same here haha, my fold 4 died after 18 months, thanks to laws ive got 24 months. But as i read Samsung uses every reason to decline warranty. Your Motherboard is broken? Look here there are scratches on the Screen, denied... NOT Joking I'll see, it arrives Monday at Samsung Store
@ecocadia
@ecocadia 4 ай бұрын
The V2 has a two year warranty on the global in the UK, wasn't that the comparison? 🤣
@DaRazorback
@DaRazorback 4 ай бұрын
Oh, look at the new graphics on the categories.
@joshuabergeman354
@joshuabergeman354 4 ай бұрын
Can I just say that if the Vivo was global it wouldn't be running OriginOS? I don't know why Vivo insists on having 2 different software
@blaster915
@blaster915 4 ай бұрын
I am exstatic praying we get that global release for the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro!!! I hate the surfboard form of samsung and if they do this I will ditch my Google 6 pro for my first foldable!!
@Avner-sj2ky
@Avner-sj2ky 4 ай бұрын
Sadly we don't have vivo in UK just order online
@f50koenigg
@f50koenigg 4 ай бұрын
In North America, it is dominated by samsung, apple and google. Its good that there are other options out there that are much better.
@blaster915
@blaster915 4 ай бұрын
@@Avner-sj2ky I'm in Switzerland so I figured this would be the case. The question is whether I get a global release from India or Indonesia, or I bite the bullet and get the China version which I will have to heavily tinker under the hood to keep working with my Google services and connected devices.
@Avner-sj2ky
@Avner-sj2ky 4 ай бұрын
@blaster915 I think if you buy it should say if it's Chinese version from Ebay
@hamster_96
@hamster_96 4 ай бұрын
Was considering vivo but that inner camera placement triggers my OCD i f can't. Why not to align it to the corner. Nah. I'll stick with Sammy for now
@sebastianlejon1313
@sebastianlejon1313 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the price should be compared with the China version of Honor Magic V2 though... Kinda? The difference becomes a lot less at that point. Also, not sure why but in my currency the price difference between V2 and X Fold 3 is way less, i tried calculating it and it ends up being that the X Fold 3 in the 16/512 version is 164 GBP cheaper. (Than Global V2, with Chinese ROM the difference is even less). I think the Vivo seems slightly nicer, but that thing with not having Google Pay is killing for me. Haven't used any debit or credit cards in stores for months because i only use Google Pay.
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
If toy paid attention then you would know that the software round would have also gone to Vivo if it was against chinese V2 so complete whitewash as chinese V2 is still more expensive than x fold 3! you are aso wrong on price... i literally showed the prices on screen! thanks for watching but maybe don't come back
@genocequa
@genocequa 4 ай бұрын
Google Pay works on my VIVO X FOLD PLUS. I use it all the time.
@sebastianlejon1313
@sebastianlejon1313 4 ай бұрын
@@genocequa yeah I know, but this was about Vivo X Fold 3, and the man himself said that he could not get it to work.
@sebastianlejon1313
@sebastianlejon1313 4 ай бұрын
​@@AverageDadOfficial ​Wait what, you want to get up to the level of Ben Sin or MrMobile, but you spit out rude replies like this in your comments? I didn't say anything that was in any way a criticism against your video, it was first more a food for thought-question, and then for the thing with the prices: 1) Not everyone who watches your videos are from the UK. 2) Are you aware of all currencies in the world not having the same value? I think you are, because you don't strike me as dumb. 3) Prices straight from Wonda right now, as displayed on their website: The Vivo X Fold 3 16/512 GB - 13 803 SEK Honor Magic V2 (Global) 16/512 GB - 16 021 SEK Now, if you Google the currency conversion for SEK to GBP, you can see that this corresponds to the Vivo X Fold 3 being 1018 GBP and the Honor Magic V2 being 1182 GBP in my currency, which is a difference of 164 GBP. I understand that you were using the UK prices in your comparison which is all fair and dandy, because why shouldn't you? But you should be prepared for questions like that, because with a smaller price difference, the product with the best value might no longer be the same as what you said, and that's pretty much what I was wondering. But honestly, mostly I want to say is that I have thus far enjoyed your content on KZfaq and have been watching your videos for quite some time, but... Telling people to not come back for asking questions? Take a small step back man, and think about what that signals about you as a content creator.
@ioancioca3790
@ioancioca3790 4 ай бұрын
​@@sebastianlejon1313totally agreeing with you. That was very rude indeed
@P3lusio
@P3lusio 4 ай бұрын
If i got chines smartwatch wich is huawei talkband b7 and only way to work with my rog phone 3 is to set chines region in huawei health app, it will work with this vivo fold? It possible to use banking app on chines ROM?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
The watch will pair no problem. all UK banking apps apart from Barclays
@AhmedTSN
@AhmedTSN 4 ай бұрын
Is the OriginOS better than the Chinese ColorOS? in your experience
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
yes, i think it is!
@mortenhilljensen6822
@mortenhilljensen6822 4 ай бұрын
Do you know if the Huawei watch Ultimate European version will be able to pair with the X fold 3?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Yes it works with Huawei health app
@mortenhilljensen6822
@mortenhilljensen6822 4 ай бұрын
@@AverageDadOfficial Thanks mate😀.
@mrmikejasonsmith
@mrmikejasonsmith 4 ай бұрын
What is the battery like? Does it easily last a full day?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
of course
@Sacify
@Sacify 4 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks for your Videos! Really appreciate them. It would be dope for this and further Videos if you could turn Brightness to MAX at both Phones with the Same Video and Record them Side-by-Side. 4500 Nits is only Peak at HDR10? And not the full Screen afaik. I'd love to see which one is brighter at casual KZfaq or Netflix Video. I hated my Fold4 at bright Sunlight cause im not seeing a S... :D
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
point taken, will do
@Steamer2499
@Steamer2499 4 ай бұрын
Loving my x fold 3 pro!
@corteznelson2530
@corteznelson2530 4 ай бұрын
Does activating Google assistant work with speaking "hey Google" or "OK Google"?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
see my previous software video
@jsbutran
@jsbutran 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the inputs. Good i got VIVO X fold 3pro. Please help me to know how to get notification on Gmail. (Number of unread emails.) Tried all work around but could not get notifications on Gmail App. It would be great if you can guide.
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Not possible
@genocequa
@genocequa 4 ай бұрын
Vivo X FOLD 3 PRO. I'll have 1 soon. I still have to Vivo X FOLD Plus
@DPCH
@DPCH 4 ай бұрын
When do you get your X Fold 3 Pro?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
..... i might have it now.....
@Ulka.suleymanli
@Ulka.suleymanli 4 ай бұрын
Chinese rom has no Google Pay??? Whaaat? Man, that is frustrating...
@geertjanssens4789
@geertjanssens4789 4 ай бұрын
Bdw, great video!!
@coastman7680
@coastman7680 4 ай бұрын
Great video 👍
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@zedi924
@zedi924 4 ай бұрын
Is the vivo global?
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
you don't belong here
@redstang70
@redstang70 4 ай бұрын
Its not even a contest here especially given the price difference.
@jeremycush
@jeremycush 4 ай бұрын
vivo costs in euros 1500 for the pro or just over 1000! for the basic version so dont know where you get your prices from so the same prise as the v2 better update your prices or give a link to the under 1000 phone cheers , good review
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
what nonsense are you talking?? the price for the Vivo is on Wonda and shown in my video... also price I state is in pounds you dummy
@sadonaut
@sadonaut 4 ай бұрын
My Winner is Average Dad ❤🎉❤
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
👍🎉
@sk343oman
@sk343oman 4 ай бұрын
Guess what? I have ordered *** VIVO X FOLD 3 PRO
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
🎉
@DaRazorback
@DaRazorback 4 ай бұрын
Me too 🎉🎉
@qwerty977
@qwerty977 4 ай бұрын
Where do u guys order it?
@DaRazorback
@DaRazorback 4 ай бұрын
I got mine from a trusted shop on Ali Express because sadly Wonda doesn't ship to Thailand and that's where I am.
@sk343oman
@sk343oman 4 ай бұрын
@@qwerty977 I am from Oman, I ordered it from aliexpress.
@salahakara
@salahakara 2 ай бұрын
AD, patience.......we your die-hard loyalists will see you past Mr Mobile to the Number 1 spot, Expert in Foldable Mobile (Chinese and otherwise ROMmed) devices. No such thing as a pipe dream--only a dream waiting for its time to come true.
@vitaliys07
@vitaliys07 4 ай бұрын
no you cannot do anything to get AA working on chinese rom .... bootloader is locked ... so not possible.
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
yes toy can, on some chinese rom phones such as Xiaomi, this is possible
@vitaliys07
@vitaliys07 4 ай бұрын
@@AverageDadOfficial on those with unlocked bootloader yes, i.e. Xiaomi. But Vivo fold 3 has locked bootloader, so no, unless vivo opens it up. Also can you do comparison Xiaomi fold 3 vs vivo fold 3? 😊
@ddeliyski
@ddeliyski 4 ай бұрын
It's 3mm, not 0.3mm
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
are you mad? 9.9mm to 10.2mm is 0.3... stick in school dummy
@albige
@albige 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Happy with my Vivo X Fold 3!
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@thanosathanasiou4508
@thanosathanasiou4508 4 ай бұрын
Google pay is working on Chinese rom no issues
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Not true and irresponsible to say! i have had over 50 chinese ROM phones and over half don't work.
@thanosathanasiou4508
@thanosathanasiou4508 4 ай бұрын
I have tested also on a couple of recent phones as well, oppo x7 ultra, xiaomi 13 ultra, honor magic 6 pro and other all with factory Chinese rom. I can load on Google wallet successfully 2 different cards of my local banks and also curve card. Google pay contactless payment flawlessly works thanks.
@awareness_in_everything
@awareness_in_everything 4 ай бұрын
It worked well on Vivo X Fold 2 Origin OS 4
@KurniaGusti-cz6cv
@KurniaGusti-cz6cv 4 ай бұрын
Hi do u sell
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Not this one
@KurniaGusti-cz6cv
@KurniaGusti-cz6cv 4 ай бұрын
Which one do u have. Is there many differences between pro and the normal and x fold plus or fold 2
@rkazares
@rkazares Ай бұрын
Bubbles
@raniranidk1439
@raniranidk1439 4 ай бұрын
Please help me job
@djsthemetereman
@djsthemetereman 4 ай бұрын
Not in U.S.
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
both are available on USA... Wonda mobile
@Ulka.suleymanli
@Ulka.suleymanli 4 ай бұрын
Get X Fold 3 Pro and let's talk then 😅
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
I have one... video coming tomorrow
@Ulka.suleymanli
@Ulka.suleymanli 4 ай бұрын
@@AverageDadOfficial finally! Great news
@hintingimage
@hintingimage 4 ай бұрын
If you want to see a real VS watch this guy smashing ALL the Chinese foldable against each other, particularly with X fold 3. Even if you cannot undery Chinese, you will like this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMhpbMhzqrbZcnk.html
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sending the link mate.... this is not a VS video tho, it's a try and break the phone video lol
@hintingimage
@hintingimage 4 ай бұрын
@@AverageDadOfficial you may be more inty in the inside of the phone. In Chinese again, but it is so interesting. Also, the back is some type of super light advanced fibre, not glass on the X fold 3 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j62HrcV1vM_WhH0.htmlsi=mrBOUKqsGqUAK6ko
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