Avoid This HUGE KLM Business Class MISTAKE!

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Жыл бұрын

KLM has one of the best business class products in Europe. But one thing many people don’t realize is that when you fly KLM business class, not every seat is the same... even on the same route! And if you book the wrong type of seat, you’ll be paying the same high fare, but you’ll get an inferior experience. I'll show you how to avoid that mistake, and I'll bring you along as our family flies from JFK to Amsterdam and back on KLM business class!
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@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Watch our livestream about KLM business class here: 🔴 LIVE: KLM Business Class: Let's Chat About It! kzfaq.infoU5NgwypqjVg?feature=share

@Zupi6 Жыл бұрын

What camera/phone do you use for filming? The quality is amazing!

@ronanmullarkey8432 Жыл бұрын

I was looking into the KLM business class for this summer. This is great info!

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! 😀 Thanks for watching!

@heretic1965 Жыл бұрын

Went on KLM to Poland last year.. They were so amazing and gave me a Thank You Package with a handwritten letter.. and I was economy!

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Wow I love that! 👏🏼👏🏼

@willemlenteren1485 8 ай бұрын

Than you had lucky day because klm are very rude s ad nd bad food

@heretic1965 8 ай бұрын

@@willemlenteren1485 😂

@supermanjuli 5 ай бұрын

@@willemlenteren1485never experienced that

@marten.travelling.11 Жыл бұрын

Nice video and it is good to hear that you had a wonderful experience with KLM. I fly them quite often in BC to different destinations in Africa, but must say that the service of the Cabin Crew gets worse by every single flight. The hard product is cool, we love the 2-2-2 configuration in the 777 because you can sit together at the window travelling as a couple. In their 787 it is not possible. We also love the Mini Cabin. But as you said, avoid it at night flights, because the Cabin Crew is always so loud and they don't care about it. Especially all these old Cabin Crew members only rush through the plane with their unfriendly grumpy faces. On my flight to Johannesburg 4 weeks ago the average age of the cabin crew was definatly over 60. And they just lost all passion and joy.

@troubleonmac 2 ай бұрын

Enjoyed your video and your engaging presentation style (despite the annoying click bait title!) The only problem (I don't think) you allude to is that even if you think you are booked on a flight with the new seats there is always the possibility of equipment change. We are booked for 2025 AMS-BKK and hoping all the 777-300's that they normally use on this route have all been retrofitted with the new product. Last year we were booked on AF PE to BKK and when we initially booked it was showing a PE configuration that had new seats but after a few months it was changed to show the old configuration. Not a lot you can really do about that!

@GoodLuck-hy1qu 11 ай бұрын

I will be flying KLM to Amsterdam and then to Copenhagen Denmark. We are so excited. Thank you for your updates. We really appreciate it.

@cydneystephen2814 Жыл бұрын

Hey TopFlight family. Good to see you back. Hope you’re settling in nicely. Champagne 🥂 wine 🍷 and cognac 🥃? Lit indeed 😂. The clog salt 🧂 n pepper shakers are cute. Great points in comparing the 2 sections. Wow. Will never have the opportunity to fly business or 1st class so traveling through you guys. Thanks for sharing and see you next video.

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Hi it’s always great to see you here! Thanks for watching!

@NonstopDan Жыл бұрын

Love the video you guys🙏 I live for Sean cam🫶

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Hahaha thanks Dan! ❤️ I’m excited to see what they do with the 777s. Yay to sliding doors!

@Mary_305 Жыл бұрын

Great content! Thanks for sharing 🙂

@eliasj.519 5 ай бұрын

KLM and their close partner Air France are two of my favorites!! The crew were so thoughtful and I appreciated their hard work.

@thomuso 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the heads up and great reviews. Just booked a trip to Indonesia with KLM, and BOY was i happy to see that 1-2-1 config on the 777-300 er !

@mooingAlong Жыл бұрын

I waited until the end of the video for the huge mistake but it turns out it is something that one really cannot avoid. I will be thankful just flying business class for anything.

@willemlenteren1485 8 ай бұрын

Dii ok nt try klm very bad

@kevonvideo Жыл бұрын

The meal looked like a mini 'rijsttafel', nice! The cities in the Netherlands have heaps of great Asian restaurants 😋

@TheDaniel11235 Жыл бұрын

My family and I flew KLM business class on their 787-10 back in August 2022 (JFK to AMS) and the experience was amazing

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Ah I can’t wait to try that product! It looks fantastic.

@willemlenteren1485 8 ай бұрын

Ifs not what it seems dont try

@jimdon29607 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review 🎉

@livingthevacationlife Жыл бұрын

Great review, hopefully on the next trip our family of 3 can also fly this product. 12K for the family is definitely out of our range, but this seems doable using points. Flying Blue points are super easy to accumulate. We really enjoyed the Air Europa business product last summer, this product seems nicer. Hopefully their award availability is solid.

@mikeheerkens1195 Жыл бұрын

How do you accumulate flying blue points?

@livingthevacationlife Жыл бұрын

@@mikeheerkens1195 Amex, Chase and Capital One points all transfer to flying Blue. All it takes is a few sign up bonus and you're good for a business transatlantic flight 😎

@angeliquec.4888 Жыл бұрын

Love KLM and their merch on board. As someone who does the points game with Flying Blue you can snag seats like this for 3 people for about 90k miles plus $450 cash for taxes and surcharges one way or 180k miles r/t. KLM and Air France are now under the same umbrella. I was able to snag AF BIZ seats NYC to CDG for 165k flying blue miles plus $605. Total amount without points would have been over 10k. I know you said, you hate the points game but you guys fly so much you should really get into it!

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Haha we don’t hate it at all! We just haven’t learned yet but we’re working on it 😉 Hopefully later in the year you’ll see some flight reviews from us where we talk about how we booked it on points! 😀

@angeliquec.4888 Жыл бұрын

@@TopFlightFamily Awesome can't wait to watch! Love all your videos. I have teens about your kids age that I travel with. So your videos touch me. I love to see happy kids travelling! :)

@LMays-cu2hp Жыл бұрын

Thnk you for sharing your trip here.

@roccoferraro1615 Жыл бұрын

Great video, I definitely need the hair gel.....

@TraverseFlightReview Жыл бұрын

Lit serge on all flight reviews plz 😂

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 He was one sip of cognac away from slurring his words lol

@samboudarboe1776 Жыл бұрын

KLM has announced that their 777's will be renewed; the newest KLM world Business Class (with a door) + the brand new Premium Comfort class. Their 777's will be 'under maintenance' after the 787's get their brand new Premium comfort class and in 2024 every KLM plane will be on 787 standards!

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait! Woohoo!

@bubblefamilytravel Жыл бұрын

I can't believe how busy the lounge was!

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Haha yeah it’s a wonder we even got in! Delta Sky Clubs have gotten so crowded that they’ve implemented all these restrictions on who can and can’t enter!

@gunvaldsandhaland7757 Жыл бұрын

KLM Is My Favorite Airlines In Europe And They Have A Great Crew Yes I Know A330 And B777 Have 2-2-2 Seating In Business Class.Only The B787-9 And B787-10 Have 1-2-1 Seating.Great Work

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Hopeful we’ll be able to fly the 787 soon! Or even the refreshed 777s later this year or next. I’m excited to see those sliding doors!

@anthonyb2282 Жыл бұрын

I've just discovered your channel and subscribed recently. Been living in Japan for 19 years, originally from NY. Travel quite a bit for work and fortunate to have opportunities to travel for fun as well. I look forward to your Asia flights later this year. And as others have pointed out, the Sean Cam is awesome. Keep up the great content.

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard! So glad you found us! 🙌🏼🙌🏼

@truebrit3578 26 күн бұрын

What the cabin layout is depends on the aircraft and which version of seating the aircraft has. Many of the 777s have the 2-2-2 configuration whereas the 787s have 1-2-1. That mini cabin is also much noisier as it is nearer the engines. Note since you flew KLM have changed their ticketing. The cheaper business class fares do not have all the amenities including no free seat selection.

@MatsGausdal 4 ай бұрын

If there is a long line at the check-in desk, then recommend going to the Delta One desk at JFK. KLM World Business Class is also welcome there. It is right next to the security so you'll get to skip the line.

@jiawoo2422 29 күн бұрын

Thanks for this review. We are flying on the Boeing 777-200 2-2-2 layout and it’s hard to find reviews on the old layout.

@Zupi6 Жыл бұрын

@TopFlightFamily What camera/phone do you use for filming? The quality is amazing!

@pzystembitang2638 10 ай бұрын

Nice video!...those little houses is filled with GIN?????or empty?

@juniorcampbell2980 Жыл бұрын

I flew on KLM at the end of 2022, the flight to AMS was on the 787-10 and then I flew on to CPT on the 777. I really hated the seats on the 777 with the 2-2-2 configuration. I'll try to avoid flying on there 777 again until the finish the retrofits. The 787s have 1-2-1 configuration and those seats were really good. The catering on both flights were good. Transiting AMS was not great, there were no showers available.

@Mms328 3 ай бұрын

There actually are several options at the airport where you can take a shower 🙂

@karieweetjewel1829 Жыл бұрын

I would love a mini sculpture but meh I've never flown business class. I'm not one of the wealthy YET! 😂

@uluvvmiya Жыл бұрын

Hi Top Flight Family, I know this is a little off topic of the video above but I wanted to know if you guys ever did a video your Kissimmee, Florida trip (going there next week) and I’m asking if you guys also have a full tour of your (Play) Airbnb Home you stayed in cause I will be considering in staying in one of those😂🎉😂 No but seriously I love your videos Should I fly: Delta or Spirit ( struggling on this decision )

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

I could never recommend Spirit 😅 You know we’re too bougie for that! Lol. Delta is great but pretty pricey these days. Is JetBlue an option for you? We like them a lot. No we don’t have a full video of the Kissimmee house. Just what’s in IG & TikTok!

@uluvvmiya Жыл бұрын

@@TopFlightFamily Oh okay, and I MIGHT consider flying JetBlue Airlines after your review I’ve watched!❤️❤️❤️

@laksi0505 3 ай бұрын

I regularly fly from Bangkok to Amsterdam 5 times a year, but switched from KLM to EVA AIR, because sometimes you sit in a Premium seat and pay Business class

@brunorocha4642 Ай бұрын

The new @klm 777 business class individual seats (with door) is even better than 787. I do recommend you to fly again!

@funsuntravels6396 Жыл бұрын

I am planning a trip to Paris, France sometimes next year. Will your family be going back anytime soon? I could use some advice on planning. Thanks.

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Hey we’d love to go back but nothings on the books yet!

@Themimii Жыл бұрын

I didn’t have a good experience with klm economy. Will be trying their business class.

@willemlenteren1485 8 ай бұрын

They have bad reputation here dont try

@dc7879 Жыл бұрын

You should be able to lounge hop within alliances, like on star alliance and one world, I lounge hop depending on airline in airports like istanbul or bangkok you have many choices

@jwhitby92 Жыл бұрын

On the Amsterdam trip, did you get to keep the salt and pepper shakers?

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Haha I’m actually not sure! I didn’t keep them but they do look kind of disposable / one use. I know on Turkish Airlines our flight attendant told us we could keep the shakers. So maybe yes?

@jochenpeiper2021 Ай бұрын

I feel you dawg, did you get your snack on?

@BirteK1975 11 ай бұрын

I just booked a KLM business class flight to Vegas. It's a 787 in a 1-2-1 configuration.

@TheThreeM Жыл бұрын

Wondered if you gotten clearance for filming in-flight. Because the last time I was flying with KLM, i took a quick snap to send to my family that I'm boarding. But was promptly asked to step aside to delete that photo, very persistent as well. Crew was quite adamant that i delete it, which kinda put me off for the entire flight. 😮‍💨

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Shooting on flights is always a bit tricky. Every creator handles this differently, but what we usually do is give the crew a heads up as early on in the flight as possible that we are making a video about our family’s trip. We let them know that we will not film other passengers or the crew, usually puts them at ease right away. I think they just want to know that you are not trying to catch them making mistakes and then posting that on socials. But then again, sometimes you just encounter really grumpy flight attendants, and they just don’t want any photos or videos happening at all on the flight. So I suspect you may have encountered one of those!

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

One more tip is that I try to make sure I’m not filming the crew as we are first boarding the aircraft and they are standing there greeting passengers. I’ll either turn the camera off or just point it at my feet during that time. Because that often puts them on edge from the very first moment.

@nico_pen 2 ай бұрын

kLM for the last couple of years have made announcements at the start of the flight to not take photo's of other pax or staff without permission. Which is good should not be filmed here without their consent

@nico_pen 2 ай бұрын

@@TopFlightFamilybut this video clearly contains other pax. I hope you got their permission before filming them otherwise you should blurr them out!

@appasonata2 6 ай бұрын

Ask about transit in Frankfurt 🙂 we was in queue and suddenly the passport officer said bye I finished my work 🤔 and we changed to other queue and it’s happened again so I missed my flight… the next time the passport control asked me why you are coming and how long and I should to show them all my booking reservations … horrible airport

@karieweetjewel1829 Жыл бұрын

KLM and SCHIPHOL WAS A MESS LAST YEAR! UGH BUT this year there trying to do there best but Schiphol is not as it was like the past.

@brucetwentyman6112 Жыл бұрын

Agree about Frankfurt being unhelpful Munich is much the same

@rickreboso1373 5 ай бұрын

so which airlines do you like more KLM or Turkish airline

@rudysegura1632 5 ай бұрын

Skip the filler to 12:30 . The mistake is the seats are better on the 787, this video was 777. Same price inferior product.

@sightseeingfamily Жыл бұрын

How dare that pilot keep interrupting the girls swag bag review 😂

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

I know, right? Sean had important work to do! 😂

@willemlenteren1485 8 ай бұрын

In trainer’s pilots

@parmentier7457 Жыл бұрын

As of this month, all Business Class seats in the KLM B777s will be replaced by new seats with sliding doors and direct aisle access. In addition, a new class will be added, the Premium Economy.

@gefingeerdbetweenthedots6092 Жыл бұрын

i dont mind people looking they often dnt think im buisnes anny way at gate personel or people wil cal me out on jumping the line whlist buisnes boarding is called.

@talmadge1926 Жыл бұрын

i have many positive experiences with KLM transatlantic business class. Great service. Good food. Friendly crew. BUT...the seats!! Worn hollow. The hard edge cuts off ones circulation behind the knees. I once had a seat that was so uncomfortable (collapsing to one side) that I had to complain to the head stewardess. She thought I was exagerating so I stood up and invited her to try it. She did and was both apologetic and embarassed but nothing could be done. A 9 hour flight with no sleep and lingering back ache.

@user-xg5ey9sp2r 9 ай бұрын

KLM deleted my baggage claim incident and never responded to me. I am never flying with them ever again. It is difficult as a 19 year old flying alone for the first time. My computer was destroyed and my baggage was soaking wet after being left in the rainstorm outside in Vienna. I urge you to save your time, frustration, and money and never fly KLM.

@jimmurphy4703 Жыл бұрын

My pet hate , backpack not held in front of you !

@love_Tia Жыл бұрын

Ámsterdam !! Omg

@anneyemoleydjieagu496 Жыл бұрын

U did not show us the bed that is not good

@lilliansmithwhyte8498 Жыл бұрын

😂😂WHAT TO DO WITH PRINCESS SEAN💅🌻 ❤PRINCESS ELLA💅🌻❤ I JUST LOVEEEEE💘 LOVEEEEE💘 THIS BEAUTIFUL VIDEO🎉 ENJOY LIFE BEAUTIFUL💐FAMILY🥂❤💞🇯🇲

@haveabeer123 6 ай бұрын

6:05 For the mistake

@shelaghjackson9577 Жыл бұрын

You are aware that those houses have Dutch gin inside them?!

@TopFlightFamily Жыл бұрын

Haha yeah I forgot to mention it!

@love_Tia Жыл бұрын

Im Dutch

@lexxieb787 Жыл бұрын

"A real... real plastic flower" LOL He is funny.

@laksi0505 3 ай бұрын

The Netherlands is the biggest Flower market from te World en KLM fly with plastic flowers?????

@CriticalThinker1967 Жыл бұрын

2 2 2 business class is a bit old school …fine if I’m with my wife but otherwise I’d pass

@willemlenteren1485 8 ай бұрын

You better avoid them they have a bad reputation here to v CB os tuners bad food and service

@robertnilsson80 6 ай бұрын

555 this seat is premium econmi .... business 1+2+1. Only okej. This seat very bad

@scottnichols3685 Жыл бұрын

I flew KLM JFK-AMS years ago. Worst crew ever. Bitter, older ladies who long before forgot that they were the face of KLM. Out of thousands of flights this one stands out as the very worst.