its not there first eh

@@chixoe7112 it is in 13 years, I know I won in 2010

Yes they still can’t march in time to save their lives

It was an experience for sure

@@xxichopixx7203 I can't wait to join it next year

You guys did pretty good yourself! On a side note I will forever have your show from 2022 stuck in my head forever! love from Avon!

Avon took a field trip on Friday of GN and watched Hebron! They were impressed.

Hebron's show was a musical masterpiece!

Matt was at Avon in 2008-2010 when they won and every year since then when they have been top 3 every year. The reason the got back over the hump to win was Visual.

This isn’t winning in any state cuz they weren’t even as good as Hebron

Only win cuz they’re in Indiana bias

@@andrewholifield2405 Matt is an outstanding teacher and creator. He is a great friend and a huge fan of my high school band director , Greg Bimm from Marian Catholic who recently retired. If you aren’t familiar with Mr.Bimm-google him-widely considered to be one of the greatest directors to have ever done it. Matt Harloff will be thought of in the same way as he continues doing incredible things in the field.

This isn’t winning in Texas because vandegrift got first lol

I know right that gorgeous Mello entrance on the motif at 4:16 is what did it for me

What would you say the other shows up there are?

Qualifying myself as merely an aged, avid fan at the outset, here goes: Tarpon Springs ‘14; Ronald Reagan ‘03 [yes, I KNOW, 2nd place]; and Rocky Mt. ‘84. North Carolina homer? Guilty as charged😉

flute soloist is goated

let’s not get carried away

Thanks man!

POV: Vandegrift got a higher score

@@bloo14738they aren’t really getting carried away. They won the biggest competition in America.

@@derpyderp2048 POV: That was a different competition with different judges against different bands. Those scores aren’t that comparable.

Pictures at an exhibition

Thanks man!

Yeah lol

I got the reference 🤣

Tableaux

@@loganhunt6307 Looked up the word and that just explained everything.

Yeah ofc! So basically the theme of our show is picture and shapes and throughout the show we have different scenery visually and musically. We use frames to create awesome illusions and not to mention,our flute soloist is amazing I love her so much! The stripes on our sides are supposed to help create more illusions and pictures! This was an amazing season thanks to everyone!

Fantastic modern interpretation of Mussorgsky’s masterpiece!

Based on the music of Pictures at an Exhibition

Like Center Grove 1995

woodlands guard was good as well

DCI allows up to 165 mm. More room to stage "stuff" for their theme. Did you like Woodlands "oversized stages"? DCI top guards do more difficulty and do more to support the show theme.

I wish more groups just did modernized shakos instead of removing them entirely

Dci can go to hell.

I say this as a Texas fan, but Carmel plays crazy difficult music and does it insanely clean. I was actually more impressed with Carmel than I was with Hebron since their book is more difficult than Hebron’s despite Hebron being much cleaner than Carmel, which any advanced brass player would agree. No one is doing the challenging symphonic styles Carmel has been doing. Hebron probably is capable, but unfortunately we will never know because they’re stuck with the UIL rubric. Both are actually different. The complexities that Carmel does may not always come across as difficult, unless you have an understanding of music theory and changing meters. If you don’t think Carmel’s music is difficult, then you’re probably not a brass player. Plain and simple.

@@LamaWithoutMat Carmel’s music style is one of a kind. No doubt a mature brass player can understand the demand and complexities that come with performing symphonic (Chamber) type books. That being said, Chamber and symphonic music has its refined lush moments but it also has moments of brass valve demand and prowess depending on maturity of arrangement. That’s is what is missing with Carmels books. A comprehensive score that encompasses both demands. For as much as I love Saucedo, it is apparent that he writes and scores according to the strengths and weaknesses of the program. Yes BA, TS and the rest of the Texas elites maybe and easily pull off a Carmel book but there is NO way that the greyhound brass section can pull off anything Hebron has fielded (2019,2021-23). To say otherwise makes it obvious that you are probably not a mature level brass player. Simple! Lack of LOS intonation exposure is another reason I’m convinced that Carmel and Avon usually musically pull off Nat’s. Books that their colleagues from the south bring are just seem equal in demand. It’s not that apparent but It is much harder for an untrained ear to hear intonation, modal and voice issues when you have reverb and echo in an enclosed environment . Plus BOA doesn’t really adjudicate and score on intonation which is odd tbh. BOA judges a more subjective experience according to the handbooks I’ve read. Probably why the artsy pageantry shows seem to do so well? This is not meant to be a comprehensive response to your claim but I want to leave you with an ISSMA recording of Carmel just a few weeks before Nats. Weather aside you tell me if you still hear maturity, clarity, richness of sound and finesse or any kind of brass valve demand. Yes they are a good high school program and visually DCI level so please don’t get my intentions or comments wrong. Carmel won State if I remember correctly but Avon at Nats was just a notch above! They deserved the win. Carmel ISSMA outdoor performance kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mt6eZ5SX05e1p6M.htmlsi=3zHT3_fnqyqldpu6

@@johnnychikko3800 They sound really good outside. Rarely hear any exposures tbh. Sorry man

@@LamaWithoutMat Then we will respectfully have to agree to disagree. 👽

@@johnnychikko3800 Dude bands practice outside almost all the time, sometimes indoors. There’s no reason for a successful and amazing band to not sound that great outdoors. I also don’t think it’s appropriate to assume or conspire that Avon and Carmel always practice indoors because we don’t know what they do, mostly alumnus know.

cause our shows our built for uil (texas stuff) for state cause our state is way way way more competitive than grand nats plus uil restricts texas bands work limit and when we can learn the show so yall got more time anyway edit: avons show is really really clean and i suppose they deserved it, just how the band sounds imo is the most important part and i expected a better music preformance especially with matt

@@bloo14738ooh someone’s a little hurt

@@Linguineo yuh

@@bloo14738just because the band you didn’t want to win won doesn’t mean you have to be rude, the Avon kids worked hard, everyone at nationals did, but you could feel a drive from them, they haven’t gotten this in 13 years, give ‘em a break

@@Linguineo you right i apologize, just took their clean movements for granted and i just expected more musically but im happy with them winning now

their closers sick though

isnt their bd the crown brass guy

They clearly won...! Hebron is a park n blow block band....

but when they do it's really good

@@macerunner4674 yeah

I mean, considering they 2-pointed the third place 6A band from Texas, I wouldn't be too sure

Hebron was almost 2 full points from the eagle this is insane cope. The woodlands? Even further.

@@Mario-gd5qk I’m not coping with anything. Just giving my opinion. I have no dog in this fight. And also the rules are different in Texas state comps. If the Texas schools didn’t have to adhere to strict rules in their own comp I think Texas bands would clear the boa comp.

@@anthonydixon4636They were better than any Texas group, it is what it is.

texas scores are most inflated scores in country

Idk carmel was just not it this year

🥱

Sorry you missed Vandergrifts show. They were incredible this year!

Hebron was supposedly better than Vandergrift for most of the season and then Avon and Carmel were left competing against each other at Nationals.

@@Mario-gd5qkNats is not a true National Championship. Had the Top 100 attendanced you might be looking at a Tarpon or Vandy Chanp. Let’s not get carried away. It’s an apples and oranges discussion. Remember Texas can’t get visual assignments till August 1st. Indiana has access and practice a whole month longer so of-course they will always be cleaner come November. Avon totally deserved the Eagle at this Nats but rarely does that mean that the Eagle winner is the best in the country. Actually that is hardly the case 2010’s +.

That was just for this years show. The way we were moving it was designed to help up not Trip all over. Can you imagine if we had to wear heaving coats?! Would’ve been horrible

Ok if we “aren’t a matching band” please tell me who won state and nats??

they all can outplay you any day bozo.