Print your own AWESOME press brake dies if I do say so myself. PLA, 100% infill More info and 3d files at: www.thingiverse.com/thing:481... or grabcad.com/library/rr-press-... Happy printing!
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@edwardeesti5 ай бұрын
Hi, did you try to bend AISI 304 for example? Would it survive? Thanks
@randomrouting5 ай бұрын
Hi. I havent done any stainless but it all comes down to thickness. Im sure you cant do 6mm but 2-3 ? Maybe ill try it some day, let me know if you do :)
@edwardeesti4 ай бұрын
@@randomrouting Hi, just for update. I did a test with the V50 version and Stainless 3mm. bends without a problem, S355 4mm. bends without a problem. One more great benefit with this tool is that when using brushed stainless or anything that you don´t want lower tool marks on the products, that is the way to go👌👍 Great job, great success !
@randomrouting4 ай бұрын
@@edwardeesti That amazing! Thanks for testing and sharing!
@mikelovell7514 күн бұрын
I love those tools. We do not use them much. Super expensive, awesome you can make them.
@AnonymousDude-po3uo Жыл бұрын
I like your energy and enthusiasm! I'm printing some dies right now for a project and had some doubts about how well PLA would work, but seeing something as impressive as this done with the same material is very encouraging.
@muniac_llc Жыл бұрын
Nice innovation. Thanks for sharing this idea. I continue to be amazed at how useful 3D printed plastic parts can be.
@adambergendorff2702 Жыл бұрын
I love this stuff! can't wait to make some of my own, thanks for sharing the video!
@mortaldrumming3 жыл бұрын
Man, that's awesome!
@GoldDiggerth3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Keep up the good work! Love to see more videos certainly about the press brakes but also love to see some about your company.
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Will do 👍
@ProtoG423 жыл бұрын
Great job! Those tools are so expensive so this is a nice alternative to keep in mind for jobs that can't have tooling marks!
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! And whenever you need to bend really really close to a hole or edge.👍👍
@AIexanderHartdegen6 ай бұрын
this metal torturer has a Prusa on his workbench. Don't forget it.
@alduraihem03 жыл бұрын
you are creative . Frankly, I needed this video . Thank you so much
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
👍❤
@alumatechrussia3 жыл бұрын
Nice thing ))) when we bought brake, exactly must have it!
@RedGloveFan Жыл бұрын
Very very nice
@jacks198222 жыл бұрын
hey thanks so much... we were just about to design one of those, and your design is a great reference. cheers
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
👍 Dont forget some type of lubrication. I forgot to mention it in the video but I use dry ptfe in a spray can. works great.
@jacks198222 жыл бұрын
@@randomrouting thank you so much for the tip, when our version is done, will post a video reply
@brianhirschberger27332 жыл бұрын
Nice work making this tool, I've printed some TPU inserts for our brake but haven't messed with making rigid tooling yet. We do have some Rolla-V tooling, it's impressive that you got this to work. I'd love to see how this printed version functions in more of the specific use cases that this type of die is sometimes used for. This seems like it works well for keeping the tooling from marring the workpiece but will it work in the other situations that the more industrial versions of this tooling is good for. I've used Rolla-V tooling for a few different reasons: 1- To help form perforated sheet accurately. In normal tooling the bend will 'jump' to the path of least resistance when forming perforated sheet. The back pressure created by the springs in Rolla-V tools basically clamp the material in place before the bend starts so it cant slip into the path of least resistance. 2- To help prevent 'pooching' when your bend line is not perpendicular to the edge of the sheet(like a miter at the end of a bend) 3- To help form very short flanges. In the tooling that I use(The smallest version available of Rolla-V) we can get a .125" ID bend on 16g steel. I love seeing printed tooling for press brakes, keep up the good work!
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Yes these would be good for all those reasons. Ivve done tons and tons of parts with them and short flanges and/or support around the bendline is one of the big benefits. Most likly wont do AS SHORT flanges as the rolla-v but probably not far from it. Ive got some older footage and I have recently designed one for the 40mm V-die for the Amada so Ill post a vid on that at some point. 👍
@evaldezz2 жыл бұрын
I apologize in advance, I'm new to all this. The die came out amazing and I thank you for the design. Helping out my brothers new business. Can some one please post the link for the spring. I feel stupid cause I can't find it any where. Great design and greatly appreciate your work. Awesome!!!!
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
Link is at thingyverse (link in the description) but it seems the site doesnt work when u'r browsing from abroad? You could just find something similar locally. Diameter is 3mm, contracted length is 25mm(including hooks at the ends), max length 85mm. Force from 0,4 to 4.1N linearly. You could use pretty much anything even semi close to that, as long as it fits in the holes and 'somewhat' correct length and you should be fine. Dont forget to use some type of lube for the die tho, i use dry ptfe. And no need to apologize, we've all done that journey and you have the best bits infront of you! I owe so much to youtube/internet-community sharing that I could never contribute enough to pay that back. Good luck with the new business!
@shreekantwaphare60633 жыл бұрын
nice!!!!!
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
👍❤
@elgolmix27863 жыл бұрын
Looks like Rolla-V. Try to bend small border (flange) on this dies
@rocketbob2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Was just looking at the step files. Curious why the radii on the roller dies are 10.816mm?
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
Not sure. It was probably a nice even number staring off. They went trough quite a few iterations where some times I rescaled the parts, probably by some procentage. Every other size is a derivative of which ever was first so thats probably why both models have the same radii.
@cncrouterinfo Жыл бұрын
I really need to make/design me a press and try this
@randomrouting Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@droneprofessor2492 жыл бұрын
This is a great little concept. Some questions on the 50mm print. 1) which orientation is the main body on the 3D printer. It seems the tubes in the main body for the spring will need support material which after doing the first print is impossible to get out. Also, the site you linked to at Thingiverse for the spring doesnt appear valid. Any sources in the US for the springs. Thanks
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
The 3d file for the 50 (on thingyverse) is a "print stack" that has two sets bundled and they print vertically. There are modeled supports of the far ends of the "tunnel" that easily snap off. Thats all thats needed. The link for the springs seems to work when i try it. I dont have any knowlegde of suppliers in the US.
@danielboos93023 жыл бұрын
That stuff is so cool. Which material did you use to print these?
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
Prusament PLA 👍👍
@danielboos93023 жыл бұрын
@@randomrouting thats even more impressive👍🏻 Nicely done, thank you for the inspiration!
@scualo003 жыл бұрын
wow, nice!!!!! what are your setings???? 100% infill???? how many tons do you use?
@scualo003 жыл бұрын
pfff i already read the description.... sorry jajajajaja
@TheOomen20123 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so smart, am currently also working at a sheet metal factory designing 3d printed presses and dies. How do you calibrate the ammount of tonnage to press?
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Like any special die I guess, so it depends on the machine. You could use the distance between the points of rotation as a crude V-size to start off with but you still have to adjust values. On the durma I just did tests and saved the values for each angle/thickness as preset programs, on the Amada I used the pendant to jog down until i got 30,45,90 ect and saved those values in the controller, its then more of an positional control rather than tonnage. After that you'd just adjust for material like any other die. Good luck! 🤞😁
@TheOomen20123 жыл бұрын
@@randomrouting Ah yes I understand at work (internship) I have 2 trumpf 5130's and 1 beyeler. The trumpf machines are CNC whereas the beyeler is programmable by hand. Guess the beyeler is my best option but the trumpf would be very nice for allot of different parts. I already printed a R20 tool and bent 4mm steel which was quite impressive. Still need to find a way to accurately calculate the right values for the different materials. Now everytime I need to make adjustments in degrees for the first part. The factory has small batches of highly complex parts so need to find the best way haha. Thanks allot for your reply, very cool you use Prusa aswell :D
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOomen2012 Prusa ftw ;]
@roguecnc788 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work, what is the purpose of this rolling style tooling rather and a normal V and punch?
@randomrouting Жыл бұрын
Able to bend super short flanges, no marring, no deformation of slots/holes ect. Its pretty great when you need it. You could search for "wingbend" here on youtube to see the steel version and its benefits.👍
@np80592 жыл бұрын
That impressive have you tried to bend any stainless steel material?
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
I have not, thin stuff should work fine tho.
@alexsanchiz3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I tested and they work well. Could you please design a V40 one?
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! I have been meaning to make a V40 as i need it for the Amada. Unsure when Ill get to it but its on the list 👍
@alexsanchiz2 жыл бұрын
@@randomrouting Hi, how do you use them in a CNC press? Did you requested a rolla-v tool file? I only managed to get them working in an old manual one I have, but I was wondering how to use them with my Gasparini which uses Delem CNC. What I tried always ends in a broke die.
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
@@alexsanchiz Hi. Sorry i didnt see this comment before. There is no file to import so this needs to be done manually like any specialty die. Once values are saved then its as quick as any other die.
@davidburd66723 жыл бұрын
hello this could be a big help with some parts that we form , I just wanted to test these out on my printer ( new at 3d printing) I started with the size 50 model and I'm a 1/4 way threw the print and I just don't see how it will pivot with it all being attached, I see where the size 35 is printed separate and that shouldn't be a problem but I'm going to have to stop this print. am I MISSING SOMETHING?
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
Yes I mention this in the description on grabcad and thingiverse. "Size 35 3d file is a "print stack", as i printed them with tabs ect for stability and printing two complete sets at a time. 3dmodelled supports. Size 50 is the 3d model, print them as you like." Hope you get it sorted. 👍
@johnbergt7 Жыл бұрын
At 0:41, what is the name/brand of that tool with the 4 sides with different bend diameters? Thanks.
@randomrouting Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure those were from rolleritools. 👍
@dragunovm2 жыл бұрын
Hi man, how are you? Tell me please, is it possible with this made 1.5mm thickness soft steel corner 90° with 4.0mm front side and 50mm back side, R1.0 die?
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Im great, hope you are aswell. I think a 4mm flange in 1.5mm steel might be difficult. If you took the size35 and scaled the V size down a bit (distance between the center of rotation) it would probably work. With the size 35 alot of pressure would be exerted outward horizonally away from the center and thereby possibly pushing the folding pieces out of their position.
@popcatzoo2 жыл бұрын
what's the point of this die? does it prevent deformation around holes?
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
Among other benefits yes. If you look at the slots in the 6mm alu at the end and the distance to the bendline, that would look terrible with a traditional die. Really short flanges are also possible with a die like this. Look at "wingbend" or "rolla-v" on youtube for the steel equivalent, they highlight pretty much everything.
@lucianolizana4463 жыл бұрын
No way! what?
@TheChrisrobbo11 ай бұрын
What grade aluminum is the 6mm?
@randomrouting11 ай бұрын
This was couple years ago so cant really remember but odds are its 5754.
@cristiangama97478 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm from Brazil, a tool like this measuring 300mm machined in a machining center costs 4 thousand dollars, I want to print it on a 3D printer like you, the cost would drop to 5 dollars, hehehe. My question is how to assemble the spring, how did you do it? Is there a video showing the assembly of this matrix? Thank you, your work is very good
@randomrouting7 ай бұрын
Hi. Yes the steel version is very expensive.:) The 3d printed parts have a tiny hole/slot that the end of the springs hooks into. I used pliers to fiddle them into place. You can probably come up with a better design for that part that is much easier to assemble.
@cristiangama97477 ай бұрын
@@randomrouting Speaking of the resistance part, you used PLA, but if you switch to ABS, we can guarantee greater durability, and what was the printing process like, standing up on the table or lying down? because, depending on the form of printing, the piece becomes more rigid without the need to use 100% infill
@randomrouting7 ай бұрын
@@cristiangama9747 I printed these standing up, there are links in the description to the files and there you can see how the the smaller version is bundled to print two sets at a time. I never tried ABS, im sure there are benefits and such but this started working to well that I didnt feel a need to continue iterating. Im sure other plastics would have different friction and hardness/deformation springyness so I just keept using PLA. (I use dry ptfe powder in them btw) Im sure there are many ways to improve on these tho, post a video if you do :)
@cristiangama97477 ай бұрын
@@randomrouting When I do this, I'll let you know, I'll study some ways to improve. Thank you for exchanging ideas my friend, a hug from Brazil
@risedabovetherest3 жыл бұрын
How do you like the durma brake?
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
Its sold and honestly it was a mixed bag. Mostly because of the rep that sold it to me (long story) but also there were some things that werent great. It had a wierd noise when warmed up so the hyraulic pump had to be replaced, Belts on the X-R axis were too tight from the factory and caused alarms. Makes you wonder about the QC. The controller DT15 was a joke. Its probably fine for super simple stuff but there were plenty of bugs and wierd behavior. Alot of it got fixed with software updates but not all. If you are serious about what you do dont get the DT15. As a side note, the machine came with DBend (durma licensed metalix mbend) offline software. HOWEVER, of all the controllers the software supports, durmas own DT15 is the only one that cant show images on the screen. So you have no idea how to orient the part unless you print out the report. Also running around with usb sticks is not very 2021. It did have network port but not used for connectivity. Go figure. It did the job tho. It was alot less expensive then the Amada (obviously) so I guess its not all bad. Perhaps it was just a lemon. Probably wouldnt buy one again tho.
@risedabovetherest3 жыл бұрын
@@randomrouting doesn’t sound like the best experience! Do you know what kind of pump they had on it? We have a durma but with a Delem DA-66T. The Delem DA-66T controller is great to be honest.
@randomrouting3 жыл бұрын
@@risedabovetherest Yea the 66T seems way better. The pump was a very generic looking gear pump that you see on pretty much everything. I dont have a model/make unfortunately.
@Horizontreecare4 ай бұрын
cool thingy mabobber..?
@randomrouting4 ай бұрын
I hereby declare that as its official name.😉
@oneclutchman7 ай бұрын
🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 No comments
@westec20582 жыл бұрын
Anybody got link for springs that’s works?
@randomrouting2 жыл бұрын
Seems the site doesnt work when u'r browsing from abroad. Anyways, diameter is 3mm, contracted length is 25mm(including hooks at the ends), max length 85mm. Force from 0,4 to 4.1N linearly.