Ayanokoji Kiyotaka VS Yokoya Norihiko [ FULL SCALE COMPARISON ]

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Amasawa

Amasawa

Ай бұрын

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@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz Ай бұрын
FSIQ is debateable ( Because of FRI ) Academics to Koji. Yokoya still victimizes mid-high diff 👽
@MattewClarke148
@MattewClarke148 3 күн бұрын
Holy Molly.After a long time, we know that Yokoya winning Koji Mid-High-diff is one of the rare events.W video fr.But there are a few mistakes in the video.Here,mistakes: Koji takes:VCI,FSIQ,EP,EM,Emphaty(debatable),Logical Strategy,Long-term Strategy,Strategy adaptility(ik),Intutive thinking,Applicational thinking,Abductive,Logical,Anstract Reasoning,(Overall Reasoning too),Academics.And here,Yokoya's points: Yokoya takes:Overall EQ,Fluid Intelligence(debatable),Planning aim,coverage,Overall Planning,Critical Thinking,Effective Reasoning,Prediction and Foresight Goated Full-scale🔥🔥 W opinion Yokoya High or High-Very High-diffs Koji
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz 3 күн бұрын
Ty! Your take is also very valid , and yes sadly its a rare case to see Yokoya winning against Koji these days.
@MattewClarke148
@MattewClarke148 2 күн бұрын
@@Amasawa404Editz 🗿🍷
@WilliamBelloc
@WilliamBelloc 12 күн бұрын
W edit + take
@user-zf5sy3zl3d
@user-zf5sy3zl3d 29 күн бұрын
VCI , VSI , FRI(>=) , FSIQ(not even debate) , PRI , EU(>=) , EP(not close) , Overall EQ , Individual Manipulation , Logical Manipulation , Emotional Manipulation , Overall Manipulation , Divergent Thinking , Application Thinking , Associative Thinking , Overall Thinking , Logical Reasoning , Inductive Reasoning(>=) , Overall Reasoning(>=) , Tactics , Mental Adaptabality , Overall Adaptabality(not even close or CGEW) , Academics(why this term goes to Yokoya?) goes to Ayanokoji(maybe Methods goes to him too but it's very close) Fixed Situation : LN Ayanokoji Very High Diffs Non-Fixed Situation : Yokoya Extreme Diffs(-) IRL with Influence : CGEW IRL from scartch : Yokoya Mid/High Diffs Intellectual : LN Ayanokoji Low Diffs(-) General Outsmarting : LN Ayanokoji Very High/Extreme Diffs Winner : LN Ayanokoji Extreme Diffs(-) Well , it's still my opinion afterall
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz 29 күн бұрын
Fairs 👍 in the end its your opinion and i respect it. my opinion : VCI : Yokoya knows four languages thats why i gave it to him VSI : Contraband Building Visualization for his strategy FRI : Yokoya easily. EQU and EQP : Yokoya constantly perceived his team's emotions in the Pandemia game perfectly. Also to be able to dominate his school ( in his past ) He needs good Emotional understanding ( to be able to understand students he needs to control ) and good Emotional Perception to be able to constantly perceive them to keep everything under control. i'll have to ask why you think koji takes any of these manipulation types ( other than emotinal which still could go to yokoya ) Application thinking to Yokoya easily. Divergent thinking is debatebale but i did gived it to yokoya because of Pandemia Arc feats , he takes overall thinking. Logical Reasoning to Yokoya ( not even a debate ) Also overall reasoning i am still not sure about Adaptability Koji is overpowered in Adaptability yes , but only in Enviromental , the rest subcats of his ( strategical and mental mostly ) are overrated imo. Academics goes to Koji my bad. Methods and Tactics are debateable. Fixed - Situation : Yokoya mid diffs at best ( He is far more experienced and perfoms way better in fixed situation ) Non - fixed situation : Yokoya High diff ( - ) irl with influence : Yokoya easily ( low - mid diff ) he has better deception leadership and reasoning. irl from scratch : Yokoya High diffs ( + ) Overall intel : Koji ( High diff ) General Outsmarting : Yokoya Mid-High Diff
@user-zf5sy3zl3d
@user-zf5sy3zl3d 28 күн бұрын
@@Amasawa404Editz Yeah , I still haven't understand much for LG , I am not the one who had read LG so much to scale them but VCI : White Room already gave him insane VCI abilities , he knows more language than Yokoya imo and vocabulary + similarities goes to Ayanokoji for sure ; information is debate and maybe comprehension goes to Yokoya but the gaps is very big though VSI : Island exam feats > Contraband building though FRI : Ayanokokoji takes CPI , Adaptabality , Learning Ability when Yokoya takes NCPS and Abstract Reasoning but overall still goes to Ayanokoji but very close EU + EP : In my opinion , ANHS's students are far smarter and better than Yokoya's school though and they had also understood and percepive their emotions perfectly . In Pandemic Game , Yokoya already just only percepive his team's emotions perfectly while Ayanokoji percepive Hirata who maybe smarter than them(But well if EP goes to Yokoya , I still agree because I don't know Hirata or Yokoya's team is smarter though And actually Yokoya's EU is not so good , specially in school because they are very excited about money and Yokoya's strategics at school to dominate school is using money , and in ANHS , money don't effect them so much . Ayanokoji already understand emontions of students in ANHS completely which not even need to use some strategics like Yokoya but he doesn't want to take his attention so he understands indirectly) For Indirect Manipulation , he already indirectly manipulated the whole class(Yokoya uses more Direct Manipulation than Indirect though) who clearly smarter than Yokoya's team . But for Individual Manipulation , I am sorry not to give that for Yokoya though . Emotional Manipulation also as well but close. Overall Manipulation still goes to Yokoya(it still very hard for me to decide Emotional Manipulation) For Application Thinking and Divergent Thinking , `Ayanokoji easily gaps because of his insane abilities of Thinking when in the White Room. He already displayed and applied thinking for ANHS perfectly. Ayanokoji always thinking logically and divergently when he met a position or a situation. Like he said in the mouth but think different in his mind(But well I still think Divergent Thinking still goes to Yokoya) . But Overall Thinking goes to Ayanokoji imo I don't know why I write Logical Reasoning goes to Yokoya , yeah it goes to Yokoya but for overall Reasoning , it is very close and even debate for this term For Adaptabality , Ayanokoji slams in Enviromental , Mental when Yokoya takes Strategical and Social(>=) . Social Adaptabality is pretty close because he already adapted very good to keep his not being a strange guy after not even talking for 10 years(White Room's 4th Generation already doesn't teach Ayanokoji to commuincate good so he is very bad at Social Skills) but he adapted it very quickly. Yokoya is still good but I think Social Adaptabality still goes to Ayanokoji Fixed Situations : Ayanokoji already can beat Yokoya due to his lack of experience and worse performance , that's 1v1 , not all so Ayanokoji already can beat Yokoya but Very High Diffs. That's a situation that both of them don;t know each other so Yokoya already underestimate him just because he is a highschooler , but I think Yokoya can see through Ayanokoji. Ayanokoji already can remain his heart calm and a poker face so Yokoya can't use his EU , EP . Specially Yokoya can't use EM and strategics by money to Ayanokoji. Ayanokoji in the other hand can also see through Yokoya by his move and counter perfectly. For Non-Fixed Situation : Both of them are lack in detective skills or being a crime but Ayanokoji had better deduction , observation , decision making when Yokoya as a crime better in Deception , Manipulation , Leadership so Could Go Either Way IRL with Influence : Ayanokoji's father's influence >> Yokoya's influence IRL from scartch : Yokoya for sure when he had better Overall Deception and Methods , Reasoning is close General Outsmarting : Like Fixed Situation but harder Overall LN Ayanokoji wins Extreme Diffs(-) You can call me a bad scaler , but it still my opinion
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz 26 күн бұрын
i would never call someone a bad scaler unless their takes are horribly bad + they cant prove anything which is not the case for you imo i'll explain as much as i can for the things i disagree with Firstly i begin with VCI Yokoya takes it , his language usage + skill + verbal deception is far better than ayanokoji's Information + vocabulary goes to Yokoya because he knows more languages ( On - screen wise ) Comprehension is debateable since Ayanokoji's insane adaptation Similarities is debateable but i would give it to Yokoya ( if we count only on-screen and logical feats ) Example for verbal deception : Tricking Nao and Akiyama's team ( except akiyama ) that he could see through the luggage --Being able to both verbaly and logicaly prove that Akiyama's Urashiki circuit tactic is a lie. --far better social skills VSI : this term is debateable. Yokoya's Feats : Visualizing entire Contraband Building for his strategy Finding the perfect spot in the musical chair area Ayanokoji's Feats : Island Exam feat Knife Visualization feat For me , knife visualization feat is not really good and cant compare with Yokoya's VSI , but Island exam feat is debateable. i do believe both Contraband Building and Musical Chair Area is more complex structure's compared to the Island ( debateable ) FRI : Ayanaokoji : CPI Learning Ability Yokoya : NCPS Abstract Reasoning Equal : Adaptability ( i'll explain later on ) So FRI is Equal for me. Which means FSIQ between them is also Equal since Yokoya takes VSI , VCI Ayanokoji takes WMI , PSI and FRI is equal EQU + EQP : Firstly about Hirata , to be able to understand Hirata you will need Avarage EQU and EQP Why? Because Hirata's Emotional situation at that time was very unstable and he wasn't even trying to hide anything at all. example : his actions towards his fellow student friends and despite his usual very social personality he suddenly starts avoiding everyone. So understanding Hirata isn't very difficult thing to do , but the main hard thing to achieve is being able to fix him emotionally by telling him the truth like ayanokoji did , but with his social skills and charisma i believe Yokoya would be able to pull this. For EQP , Yokoya's team may not be smarter than hirata in overall ( they probably are but lets say they arent ) even if they are not they have better composure and EQM compared to Hirata which means they are more difficult to emotionally perceive compared to Hirata so i'll give EQP to Yokoya For Ovr.Thinking : --On - Screen Feats wise Yokoya easily takes Application thinking , he utilizies his knowledge on his strategies and on his deceptions way more than Ayanokoji does --Statements wise this is debateable --For divergent thinking , Being able to pull a Fake Traitor idea Thinking of a multiple ways to trick Nao and Akiyama's team for them to believe that he could see through the luggage ( even though he is getting the information from a traitor of Akiyama's team ) Yokoya takes Overall Thinking but it is kind of close. Overall Reasoning is not close as Overall Thinking is. For Adaptation : --Enviromental is Koji without a debate ( Whiteroom ) --Not sure for Mental imo it is close , since Yokoya has adapted to Liar game pretty easily , and he could adapt to Akiyama in most cases which is very difficult Koji mentally adapting to Whiteroom's insane situations is what makes this compareable against Yokoya imo. --Strategical is EASILY Yokoya , No one in ANHS has Strategies compareable to Akiyama and Yokoya was able to see through Akiyama's Contraband Strategy , utilize it before Akiyama can and adapt to it. --Social is debateable since like you said , despite his very bad social skills , ayanokoji could adapt to ANHS. But since Yokoya has more charisma better verbal deception and more valid feats ( Adapting to his school and its students and dominating them ( via money + his social adaptation ) Adaptation Could go either way Fixed Situation : Yokoya does not perform bad in 1v1 situations , sure he is better at controlling people and team situations but do not forget that he was constantly countering and adapting to Akiyama's tactics , he was deducing his lies , and he constantly put Akiyama in very difficult moments. ( Especially in pandemic and garden of eden game ) well yes perhaps saying ''low - mid diff'' was underestimating Ayanokoji , but even if he could give Yokoya a good battle , it is at best Mid-high diff Non - Fixed Situation : Yokoya Being able deduce that Urashiki Circuit Tactic was a lie and many more feats like that proves he actually has good deduction skill ( not very good but still decent ) Ayanokoji also does possess good deduction skills , koji has better observation. I do believe that Yokoya has good decision making which can be compareable to Koji's ( which i mean Contraband Feat can be compareable to Koji's feats ) Yokoya takes Overall Deception and Manipulation. Overall : Yokoya High Diff ( - ) IRL Situation --With Influence : Ayanokoji would never accept Atsuomi's Influence , because the only way to utilize that influence is returing to Whiteroom , which he would never do because he would never give up on his freedom. and Yokoya is VERY rich , money can buy influence + Yokoya's Leadership , control over people and social skills are better than Ayanokoji's --Without Atsuomi's Influence : Yokoya wins Mid Diff --With Atsuomi's Influence : Ayanokoji wins Extreme diff ( + ) General Outsmarting : Yokoya High Diff ( - ) Overall : Yokoya Mid - High Diff also a quick question , do you believe Ayanokoji can beat Yokoya in Contraband game?
@user-zf5sy3zl3d
@user-zf5sy3zl3d 25 күн бұрын
@@Amasawa404Editz You are very good imo , you just scale so good...... For VCI : Well , it doesn't need verbal deception since it is more than use general intelligence and memory + a little thinking though. Ayanokoji is better and had more languages using than Yokoya but Yokoya applied his language skills more than Ayanokoji We didn't see anything about feats on VCI for Ayanokoji but rementioned to White Room , they really gave very high quality about vocabulary , similarities and comprehension to Ayanokoji(I will use both on-screen and off-screan feats because I found that feats = statements) so Ayanokoji already can take VCI from Yokoya. Not just by *quality > quantity* but also quantity can beat quality. Ayanokoji can use less skill on VCI than Yokoya but the quantities Ayanokoji had about VCI is very well. Overall Yokoya can take VCI(by feats) and Ayanokoji takes VCI(by statements) VSI : Island Exams > Contraband Building (The Island is more larger than Contraband Building but Contraband Building had more complexity and need to use some tricks to observed and see through all. I am not sure if Yokoya also can visualized Island Exams but I think VSI doesn't need so much strategics and Observation to scale VSI . Ayanokoji already without informations but also can visualized the island by himself) FRI : Ayanokoji destroys in CPI and Learning Ability . Yokoya takes Abstract Reasoning and NCPS(close) , although they are equal at takes 2 cats but the gaps is very big so Ayanokoji takes FRI I can agree with you in Overall Emotional Quote and Thinking(since I don't find any proofs to beat yours) Adaptabality : Ayanokoji already defeat in Enviromental and Mental(not even close , White Room > Liar Game on improve mentally since they already gave childrens the hardest and most complexity problems to solve , above level 5 all of intelligence standards is not even a human , but Ayanokoji adapted it so easily and surpass level 10 at the age of 9) . Social is debate and Strategical to Yokoya for sure. Ayanokoji takes it Fixed Situation : I can say controlling and using a trick against Ayanokoji is useless. Manipulation also since Ayanokoji always had a calm mind , heart rate and specially he can anticipated and predicted Yokoya's move. Yokoya's strategics can give Ayanokoji very hard to counter. Ayanokoji can visualized and see through Yokoya but with better Strategical Adaptabality , Yokoya already can have more strategics before Ayanokoji can counter them. But it also very hard since Yokoya can't even control and manage Ayanokoji's emotions so Yokoya needs to have a most accurate strategics to defeat Ayanokoji . But Ayanokoji already have better Mental Adaptabality and his analys is just insane Overall Ayanokoji can win but Yokoya also can win(but I think Ayanokoji had more chance to win) I agreed with Non-Fixed Situation but the diffs is higher like Very High Diffs(-) IRL Situations : I have said right because IRL without Influence is IRL from scartch but the diffs for IRL with Influence is much lower. I also have Ayanokoji Extreme Diffs(-) overall For your quick question , Yokoya can defeat Ayanokoji in Contraband Game(Since Yokoya had better Strategics , Deception and EQM but Ayanokoji had better Observation and Decision Making so Ayanokoji can visualize Contraband Building like Yokoya but a little harder and Yokoya still defeat him but can be Extreme Diffs or Ayanokoji even win since Ayanokoji's Adaptabality about Enviromental and Mental is far better than Yokoya and Akiyama But I still think it is 50/50 , Ayanokoji wins or Yokoya wins is a good take for me) Afterall , thanks to debate with me , I am not good at scale though
@ROThistorian
@ROThistorian Ай бұрын
W edit 🔥 Aren't you stop scaler?
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz Ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes i mainly use stop scaling
@user-my2vb3so9v
@user-my2vb3so9v Ай бұрын
VCI , Academics ,crystal and fluid intelligence and FSIQ to Koji other than that very peak take 🐐🔥🔥 keep up 💯 clean 🫧 edit
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz Ай бұрын
Thank you. can you explain how VCI goes to koji?
@user-my2vb3so9v
@user-my2vb3so9v Ай бұрын
@@Amasawa404Editz Koji's presents eloquence and always speaks favouring the addressed party the only exception is during manipulation.His communication skills make him really approachable despite him being an introvert
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz Ай бұрын
@@user-my2vb3so9v imo yokoya has better : information vocabulary comprehension>= similarities not sure about arithmetics also about your reasoning Yokoya if not better than koji , is atleast equal to him in terms of speaking in favor of the addressd party , plus his verbal usage nearly always attracts and deceives people ( example : being able to dominate his school , tricking nao and other participants that he could see through the luggage )
@vojtechdian6920
@vojtechdian6920 9 күн бұрын
@@Amasawa404Editz How does Yokoya have better Information? Koji takes Arithmetics quite easily through FMA.
@Moczrfr
@Moczrfr 29 күн бұрын
W
@bacchadumII
@bacchadumII 17 күн бұрын
Oh boy u've angered a horde XD Imo Koji high-extreme but nice edit
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz 17 күн бұрын
Thanks but People got angry because of a take?
@bacchadumII
@bacchadumII 17 күн бұрын
@@Amasawa404Editz Oh u got no idea. COTE fans r some of the easiest to anger. Haven’t u seen how mad they can get w takes?
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz 17 күн бұрын
@@bacchadumII i have seen some but i didnt really debated with any cote fan like that so cant say anything
@Fairy.-.-
@Fairy.-.- 22 күн бұрын
Fax.
@Blank-face-_-edits
@Blank-face-_-edits 26 күн бұрын
Mental adaptability, Overall adaptability, linguistic intelligence, academics, logical reasoning, goes to Ayanokoji.
@ThunderXDS
@ThunderXDS Ай бұрын
W!!!! Yokoya Destroys 🗣️
@adamlibson5895
@adamlibson5895 7 күн бұрын
w edit but i disagree completely
@jackthezodiac6136
@jackthezodiac6136 9 күн бұрын
FSIQ to Koji 😂😂😂, Koji takes FSIQ low diff.
@Amasawa404Editz
@Amasawa404Editz 9 күн бұрын
Firstly i want to state that CF and PMH was not used to scale Koji's FSIQ in this video. I used FMA for his FSIQ i do not use statements / narrative for VCI , thats why Yokoya takes it since he knows more language via on - screen feats VSI to Yokoya , his feats such as finding the best spot in the musical chair island and visualizing the whole contraband building for his strategy are above Island Exam Feat --FRI CPI : İf you count CF ( which is headcannon most likely) and PMH ( not sure about its validity ) Koji quite easily takes CPI , but if not he barely takes it since Book feat of Yokoya can come close Learning ability : Koji via Whiteroom feats Abstract Reasoning : Yokoya , not even close. NCPS : kinda Close but Yokoya takes it. Adaptability : --Environmental Koji --Mental Koji --Strategical Yokoya --Social Yokoya FRI : Koji takes --Learning ability --CPI>= --Adaptability ( EQUAL ) Yokoya takes --NCPS --Abstract Reasoning --Adaptability ( EQUAL ) Resulting in FRI being Equal between them which also means that They are equal ( ? ) in FSIQ because Koji : --WMI --PSI --FRI ( EQUAL ) Yokoya : --VSI --VCI --FRI ( EQUAL ) Dont forget that i use only on - screen feats. ( CF is definitely invalid , Not sure about PMH )
@jackthezodiac6136
@jackthezodiac6136 9 күн бұрын
@@Amasawa404Editz i don’t use CF I might use PMH but definitely not for VSI, only for CPI, and even without CF or PMH Koji still takes CPI+VSI pretty comfortably but w opinion
@sebastianatencio2
@sebastianatencio2 8 күн бұрын
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@DAKSH_EDITZZ
@DAKSH_EDITZZ 24 күн бұрын
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