Azula’s ending was like perfection to me. I couldnt explain it before but it just felt right. I never imagined her getting a happy ending because her story wasn’t leading that way. And yes I definitely agree! If she was given a happy ending, it would’ve diminished her story and it would just be meh. It was perfect the way it is.

Redemption is not something that is deserved, redemption comes from you wanting to change, you wanting to be better. She might achieve that, she might not.

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After watching does it shows much heart and souls and hardwork it goes to making a story much respect to any writers

It’s sort of like Kevin from Ben 10. They’re both evil people who usually rejected any chance of redemption at any turn. The only difference is that Kevin actually took the chance while Azula never does. And not only that but she just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. Great video!

I used to believe that azula deserves a redemption arc but all that changed when she started kidnapping some kids including her half sister in the comics

Wow. That was all very week said! I’m subscribing to your channel. I hope to see new videos just as great as this one!

I agree azula was supposed to be a mirror of what zuko could be if turned dark and just an interesting villain in general having a redemption arc wouldn’t work for the story cause by that time it would already be too late and would overshadow the other characters

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I just came from your AOT video and when I saw this video title, I immediately clicked. Azula most certainly does NOT deserve redemption. I don't think she's even capable of it.

well i understand why a lot of people wants a azula redemption arc im glad she dindt got one i. i mean yes she is symphatetic but there othe symphatetic characters in the show like jet and hamar and those 2 dindt got a happy ending.sorry for my english

For people who wanted Azulas redemption... you can always read the books! Small spoiler: Only covers the start of her redemption... like the amount of progress Zuko pre-season 1 and season 1 by Iroh...

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Her past is only diminished if her story moving forward doesn't make sense. It's independent of whether she gets redeemed or not. Just like how someone who once overcame adversity can fall again, someone who previously fell can atone. Both can provide immense value if written well. Even if you were to continue developing both characters on their current trajectories, it's still possible to undermine both their developments if written badly. I mean, just look at any of the GoT characters. Started off great then all of them took a -50 hit to their iq, and while their motivations were preserved, little of their prior actions seemed to matter.

Azula may not have a pleasant personality but she's isn't evil. She was a patriot/soldier that did what she was told. And she always chose the option that would lead to the least mortality. -She took Ba sing se without bloodshed. -Spared king Bumi when she took Omashu. -She could have easily asked the wardens to cut the line holding the gondola ride at boiling rock,but she didn't. Finally brought Zuko home and lied to her father so his honor be restored. She consoled him and probably went to change Ozai's mind about Zuko not being invited to the war council meeting. Zuko throw it all in her face anyway -Despite their rivalry, she looked out for Zuko. There was never a moment Zuko looked out for her. -Notice how she recruits Mae and Tai Li that specialize in subduing and not killing or causing massive destruction. She easily could have recruited the combustion man. -Always chose diplomacy over violence unless necessary. She took out Aang with lightening because he literally becomes a blood thirsty monster when he is in the avatar state. It was a sensible move to limit the carnage. -Azula had ZERO body counts on screen (apart from Aang).

I would have liked a happy ending for Azula, but as you watch the series and analyze the character, her actions and attitudes, you understand that it is impossible for her to have a happy ending, she has assumed deeply both the teachings and the role that her father gave her, she has become so unhinged with the idea of becoming perfect, that it is impossible for such a character to find redemption, and I repeat that I would love Azula to change and find peace, but that is impossible for someone like her.

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But to be fair, the reason she "fell deeper into the lie" after Mai and Ty Lee betrayed her is because she herself also has a fear of her father, thats why she shouted "You can't treat me like this, you can't treat me like Zuko", because look wht Ozai did to Zuko, he scarred his face, I personally feel like in the flashback from The Storm where we see Azula smiling at Zuko being burn, it made Azula fear Ozai, cause if she dares defy him in any way, she'd be scarred too

Personally for me, I think that anyone who says a 14 year old child solider raised by a violent abuser is an irredeemable monster is kinda fucked up ngl.

Like with any idea it all depends on execution. Even if it seems like she doesn't deserve redemption but they manage to write the best redemption arc ever for her then it would be something well written deserving of praise. Good ideas can be poorly written and fail while bad ideas can be done well and look incredible.

Does she deserve a redemption? No, most villains don’t. Should she get a redemption? In my opinion, yes. A redemption for Azula wouldn’t really take away much from her arc in the original show, in fact, I believe it’d only add to it. Her breakdown would feel less like an ending and more like an origin story. It could show that no matter how far you’ve gone, with the right help, you could at least have a chance of coming back. Plus, who wouldn’t wanna see Zuko act in a position like Iroh? And quite frankly, an Azula redemption just makes sense for both her character and the themes of ATLA in general. Why wouldn’t Zuko try to help his sister recover and change? Especially with the context of the comics, in those stories, it’s made evidently clear that Zuko is terrified of becoming like his father. Rehabilitating Azula could be the biggest step in him overcoming his fate as Ozai’s successor and help end the cycle of violence in their family once and for all. A redemption for Azula also gives Ursa a chance to redeem herself for never being there for Azula.

Interesting video. I personally if I was in the writers position give Azula redemption arc. Zuko loves and cares for her, and her downfall is tragic in the show. But I respect your opinion. It is also good story telling to show that not everyone can change. I have a question: going forward from Smoke and Shadow comics (not sure if you read them) how would you see Azulas story progress up to Korras time? If you were in the writers position. What kind of plotlines relating to her character you would like to see?

Even in the comics Azula didn't get a redemption

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Bruh that's a hot take I can get into

Without watching the video fully, 100% agree with this statement. Simply from a writing stance she shouldn’t get a redemption arc because it would lead to the story becoming stale and repetitive AND it was established that she’s not regretful about her childhood like Zuko obviously is

I haven’t really watched the video yet, but I’d like to say something, can Azula really *earn* a redemption arc, she’s a terrible and horrible who’s bad things, yes, she is absolutely mental, but that doesn’t excuse how much manipulation she’s done, you can’t just excuse yourself of a crime, just because you’re not right, I’d say she *needs* a redemption arc but she wouldn’t earn *or* deserve it

Well, if a story's purpose is to make you feel, then why do I feel that Zuko's redemption is incomplete without him managing to save his sister? To leave her to her fate the way he seemingly does in the show is not the least bit heroic; it's apathy. What kind of a hero is that?

I feel like the original 3 were so good and well done. I get mad because people pretty much just want more content and it's getting out of control. They just want more content which in the long run will make it jp the shark. Also I don't think it's that she deserves to get better or not, I think it's more like, not EVERYONE in the world needs to have a good guy arch. After zukos it seems like every show and movie wants to make an arch to better the characters. Truth is: not everyone becomes better in real life. Idk I find it often the ones that want all this extra shit after the series are people that just want more mindless storytelling rather than a good story.

Thats like saying Vader doesn't redemption and he clearly doesn't but he does redeems himself. Redemption is not about if the person deserves it or not its about if the character has a change of heart. We'll see in the future what the writers will do with azulas charcter I doubt they will let her just rot in the asylum/jail she has to much if potential and is an interesting character

I never really watched Avatar.🤷 But redemption arcs are NOT needed for every villain. Like now a villain can massacre an entire city and because something tragic happened to them, the audience is supposed to forgive them? If people want redeemable villains, then IDK give them at least some morals or say they don't attack people they see as weaker. 🤷

Blah blah blah Azula deserves a stand alone book where she gets the help she needs

These are all very good points. But I still insist we kill son goku… I mean get an Azula redemption ark. On account that I want one.

Eh, I still think it would be cool if they gave her one. I don't think she needed one in the OG series, because it would have felt forced, out of place, and rushed. In the comic they are supposedly building up to her redemption arc though, which imo isn't the worst route they could go. You do have to factor in the reason as to why she did all of these horrible things. Azula was confused as her hallucinated mother stated. Her father and mother gave her mixed signals. Her father was a psychopathic a$$hole and her mother was wholesome. Her mother corrected her bad behavior. Her father reinforced it. This led to a lot of confusion in crucial times of child development. She and Zuko both already had a predisposition to psychopathy because of their father's genes. But they also both have the good genes of their mother. They were both troubled youths. Zuko had Iroh to help lead him on the right path, Azula was still under Ozai's influence, whereas Zuko's banishment gave him enough time away from his father and enough time with his uncle to give him much needed life lessons. Azula never got that opportunity. Even though Azula was a bad sister to Zuko, he still did love her. They even talked about things they did together as children. Zuko wants to help Azula despite her behavioral problems. Sound familiar? Iroh wanted to help his troubled relative also. The general idea is that Iroh was able to undo the god awful parenting that Ozai did, and Zuko is trying to to do the same for Azula.

Yeah I agree with you but to be fair iroh is not just the reason zuko redeemed herself while azula couldn't. Zuko wasn't a bad person to begin with he created a false self to please ozai . I am saying azula was a bad person I know why she had gone crazy but I am just saying the way they were raised wasn't the same but I am definitely not saying iroh didn't help zuko I mean he was like a real father to him. I think azula is CACAPLE of redemption but I liked she didn't get redeemed because that 's what her arc is about.

Personally, Azula to me never felt like she deserved redemption or even that much pity. Whilst her father did influence and encourage her, everything we are presented with in the series suggests that Azula's evil is her true nature. She is cruel, she is ambitious, she is spiteful, and that is just who she is. This is the girl whose literal first scene in the entire series is *smiling gleefully* as her father burns her brother's face. Everything about Zuko's past establishes him as having a good heart; all of our flashbacks to his childhood show him as a fundamentally caring and compassionate boy, even if he has learned arrogance due to his position as royalty. In contrast, every we see of Azula at her tender age showcases somebody who revels in pain and relishes her ability to manipulate and deceive others.

Yes I agree with you that a redemption arc would make the story invalid and take away the important lessons about the paths you choose determines your destiny!But on the side of humanity and good will,she at least deserves a chance to find inner peace and perhaps ask the face stealer to take away her painful memories and allow to rebuild a new life with an identity of her own instead of that of her father!Don't get me wrong Azula's actions are beyond forgiveness but seems wrong to just let a little 14 year old kid suffer insanity for the rest of her life

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Iroh and Ursa neglected her in favor of Zuko. Her mother didn't love her enough and her Uncle just didn't care. She only decided to go after care from the asshole who made her a child soldier

Are you kidding? Of course she deserves a redemption arc.