B-25: Tank Gun Bomber With Extra Firepower

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@MilitaryAviationHistory 2 ай бұрын

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@ripvanwinkle2002 2 ай бұрын

The thing i like about this aircraft, is the sheer "Americaness" of it.. "we've mounted a Tank Cannon on your Bomber..." " yea but uh... still room for more .50 cals dont ya think?" it can be said the US military never goes to any battle without our Momma Ma Deuce

@theackshow5048 2 ай бұрын

1:07 Once again, my father appears in a KZfaq video! He was one of the engineers responsible for the tooling of the B25G 75mm cannon mount. The work was done at the B 25 Fairfax plant in Kansas City Kansas.

@MilitaryAviationHistory 2 ай бұрын

That‘s awesome!

@POLARTTYRTM 2 ай бұрын

That's so cool man, you can consider your father a historic figure for appearing on this type of video as this is rare archive footage.

@johngalt9737 Ай бұрын

8:11 there he is again

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Ай бұрын

One of my friends has a model railroad with that factory on it, albeit after it became an automobile factory post-WWII.

@DavidReese2ndA 2 ай бұрын

My Grandfather flew as Navigator for 62 missions to Germany in WWII in a B-25 Mitchell... Was shot down twice in the Sea... He lived until he was 89... a great Man

@keithad6485 2 ай бұрын

I was always under the impression, USAAF bomber crew completed 25 missions then went back to US. Did he volunteer for more missions?

@DavidReese2ndA 2 ай бұрын

@@keithad6485 Yes correct.. My Grandfather said no... He said he wasn't done, he didn't want to stop serving until the Job of getting Germany was defeated... I have His Distinguished Flying Cross Award

@DavidReese2ndA 2 ай бұрын

@@keithad6485He flew as lean Navigator of a formation attacking the Brenner pass rail lines in San Ambrogio, Italy. Isidor Berkson, First Lieutenant, Air Corps 310th Bombardment Group...

@petesheppard1709 2 ай бұрын

You weren't wrong saying '20 mil'. 'Mil' is often used by Americans as a short way of saying 'millimeter'. We also use 'mike mike' for 'mm', 'mike' representing the letter M in the phonetic alphabet.

@FrankJmClarke 2 ай бұрын

Yes. "Nine mil" is as common as "Nine millimeter". I always do my Austrian accent on "Nine millimeter", though :).

@jonbowman7686 2 ай бұрын

I came here to say the same thing, so thank you for doing it first :)

@NM-wd7kx 2 ай бұрын

I thought 'mil' was English to be honest, it's common here too

@neilwilson5785 2 ай бұрын

I say 'mil' as well and I'm a Brit

@negativeindustrial 2 ай бұрын

@@NM-wd7kx We use “mil” here in Texas, as well. In engineering and also machine shops. Although, like the person above mentioned, it is quite impossible to say the phrase “9mm” without the use of a heavy Austrian accent here.

@lookythat2 2 ай бұрын

According to Gen. Kenney's book, the "strafer" B-25s and A-20s did just fine against shipping once they perfected the skip bombing technique. Even a fairly light bomb (ie 100 lbs) is going to be more powerful than a 75mm shell (16 lbs). The idea was, suppress AA fire with a storm of .50 cal on a high speed run-in and skip a bomb into the side of the ship.

@mikepette4422 2 ай бұрын

exactly suppression of the returned fire from shipboard AA was the goal not to sink ships with the guns

@bilalsadiq1450 2 ай бұрын

That's surprisingly similar to the A-10 story in the Gulf war and later, where the use of the 30mm cannon for tank killing got sidelined due to the use of AGMs on the hardpoints. Kinda makes it redundant to use in the end if all the compromises to mount the cannon aren't even used (although it was still useful in COIN operations so it wasn't a complete loss).

@lookythat2 2 ай бұрын

@@bilalsadiq1450 To me one of the most underrated features of the A-10 was its wealth of hardpoints. Like the A-1 "Spad" it was intended to replace, it was intended to be able to carry just about everything -- and lots of it. The USAF was remembering the Spad -- the first concept for the A-X program was for a turboprop. If a peer conflict had broken out, the 30mm would've seen lots of action. There would've been lots of targets, 30mm is a lot cheaper than Hellfire missiles, and they'd have more than six shots (a normal Hellfire load).

@forcea1454 2 ай бұрын

@@lookythat2If a peer conflict broke out, the 30mm would have received very little use, unless the USAF wanted to have unsustainable casualties in the face of Shilkas, Strelas and Osas.

@davidbriggs7365 2 ай бұрын

@@forcea1454 Actually, one of the FIRST targets the A-10 would have shot would have been the enemy AA.

@an0nym0usguy49 2 ай бұрын

Small correction at 6:25. The airacobra had a 37 not a 39 mm cannon

@MilitaryAviationHistory 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, silly misspeak on my side

@tomppeli. 2 ай бұрын

Found my comment

@mrcat5508 2 ай бұрын

I got confused about that. Thought I was wrong until I saw this comment

@Bidimus1 Ай бұрын

@@MilitaryAviationHistory You are not the first, and you do a far better job than say.. the "history channel " with 50mm guns in us fighters.

@petesheppard1709 2 ай бұрын

'Targets--I mean, vehicles...' 🤣

@davidcox3076 2 ай бұрын

When you're slinging a 75 mm, everything is a target.

@enscroggs 2 ай бұрын

I believe this is not a case of a tank gun on an aircraft, since the T13E1 / M5 75mm gun was developed specifically for installation in attack aircraft. A derived version known as the M6 75mm gun was later installed in the M24 light tank, so this is really a case of an aircraft gun on a tank.

@dougjb7848 2 ай бұрын

The first 75mm mounted in the B25G was a manually loaded 75 mm M4 cannon, originally developed for armored ground vehicles. The T13E1 was developed from the M4 to be mounted in the B25H, and then that was modified into the M6 version for the M24. So it was a case of a gun for a tank, which was developed into a variant for an aircraft, which was then developed into a gun for a tank.

@Thenotfunnyperson 2 ай бұрын

@@dougjb7848 My mind is blown. That is cool information.

@mikepette4422 2 ай бұрын

i agree

@steveprophet5247 2 ай бұрын

Well said

@bradyelich2745 2 ай бұрын

I read a book as a young person about a B-25 pilot in the Pacific theatre. His plane only had the 12 forward facing .50's. He despised shooting nme troops in the water after sinking the transports. The 75mm B-25's sank several transport ships in that book.

@Canis_Lupus_Rex 2 ай бұрын

Book was probably Whip, written by Martin Caiden

@johnfarscape 2 ай бұрын

Its strange when you hear about the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine doing the opposite, and rescuing enemy troops that were in the water after having their transports sunk, even though at one point they were ordered not to, there were many written cases of it happening “and this includes picking up persons in the water and putting them in lifeboats, righting capsized lifeboats, and handing over food and water" My Grandfather actually had his life saved by a German that rescued him, and got him medical treatment, he survived despite having most of his stomach blown away. I had read about American planes strafing unarmed and surrendering troops in the water, it was in a book called "Allied warcrimes against the Japanese in WW2"

@usslexingtoncva-1639 2 ай бұрын

@@johnfarscape Well it probably stems due to the Japanese own tendancy of shooting Allied personnel in the water or in the air

@bigpoppa1234 2 ай бұрын

@@usslexingtoncva-1639 If the ships were sunk close to the islands the troops were going to land on, they could still swim or get rescued and go on to fight. But the war crimes they committed likely didn't help their situation.

@unclefart5527 2 ай бұрын

Once the nature of this enemy was seen, allied attitudes changed. Aircrew could see anyone on deck being shredded by 0.50s and it was not to everyone's liking.

@nemilyk 2 ай бұрын

MAH: "Let's start with the why first" America: "...they touched our boats."

@ColonelSandersLite 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that one always makes us extra mad.

@RedEyesBDC 2 ай бұрын

The B-25 Mitchell is a beautiful aircraft

@keithad6485 2 ай бұрын

When ever I see an image of the Mitchell, I always think of Catch 22.

@Tophet1 2 ай бұрын

My father was an ANZAC fighting in the highlands of PNG in WWII and described being supported by this 75mm. They could fly level with the ridges and pound Japanese positions.

@keithad6485 2 ай бұрын

Which battalion did your Dad serve with? Gutsy soldiers in New Guinea fighting the Nips with the Nips conducting themselves in ghastly inhuman behaviour. I salute your Dad. From a retired Aussie Armoured Corps soldier.

@goodbill55 2 ай бұрын

The B 25 gunship was used during the Shaggy RIdge battles. The soldiers and pilots reported that when the B 25 opened up with the 75mm their craft would shudder and from the ground it looked like the aircraft stopped mid flight

@conamer6738 2 ай бұрын

It seems skip bombing was more destructive but an interesting concept.

@4shink 2 ай бұрын

My father-in-law flew straffer B-25's for the 500th squadron/345th bomb Group (Air Apaches) out of Papua/New Ginea in 1943. He only mentioned flying with the .50cal gun package but routinely carried 100 pound para-Fragmentation bombs and 500 # conventional bombs. There is a photo of his a/c coming off a skip bombing run in the book Warpath Across the Pacific that is the historical record of the 345th Bomb Group. According to Ed Allen the modified B-25 c and d models were very heavy on the controls and if the pilot lost either engine for any reason the a/c was committed to a forced landing....it could not maintain controlable airspeed on just one engine.

@immikeurnot 2 ай бұрын

20mm vs .50 cal also comes down to reliability. The Hispanio Suiza cannon had feeding issues (the British ended up fixing this after the US decided to stick with the .50 cal), but the Browning M2 is kind of legendary for their reliability. The initial design was so good that they only in the last couple of years modified it, and that A1 modification was just to make barrel changes easier by eliminating the need to adjust headspace and timing.

@neiloflongbeck5705 2 ай бұрын

The Air Ministry selected the 20mm cannon over 0.5in machine gun in the mid-1930s, around the time they selected the Spitfire. They did this even though the 20mm was much less reliable than the 0.50in machine gun as it had more potential.

@kimjanek646 2 ай бұрын

They could have just built a 20mm on the browning mechanism like the Japanese did. Honestly kinda strange that they didn’t.

@Caseytify 2 ай бұрын

@@neiloflongbeck5705 the RAF favored .303 machine guns for a long time.

@neiloflongbeck5705 2 ай бұрын

@@Caseytify yep, but for simplified logistics - the same bullet was used on the SMLE, the Lewis gun, the Vickers K gun, the Vickers heavy machine gun, the Bren gun and their various aircraft guns. But they knew they needed a better gun for the aircraft eventually.

@Caseytify 2 ай бұрын

After WW2 the M61 Vulcan became the gun of choice for the US. The A-10 is one of the few planes that doesn't use the Vulcan. Not bad for a gun that's over 60 years old... 😏

@jjjcmo Ай бұрын

My dad’s WWII A26 squad had a ship with a 75 mm gun. He said they fired it only once. Damn near knocked the plane out of the sky.

@lotharvonrichthofen4474 Ай бұрын

My aunt Margie was a “Rosie the Riveter” with North American…one of the planes she worked on during the war was the B-25…she was involved with helping to mount the 75 mm cannon After that she worked for Northrop on the P-61 Black Widow It was very interesting to hear all of her stories about the manufacturing and assembly processes She passed away around 1998 I believe.

@awathompson 2 ай бұрын

The 5 ich HVARs most likely had an impact on the no need for the 75mm.

@cattledog901 2 ай бұрын

Yup. Rockets are just a better solution than a heavy large caliber gun. Easier to integrate onto many diff aircraft, just as much if not more explosive firepower, weigh much less, and the aircraft gains its performance back after expending them, rather than carrying around the empty cannon after firing all the ammo.

@lorenzcassidy3960 2 ай бұрын

@@cattledog901 I'd say definitely more explosive firepower than a single large caliber gun: the most common configurations on US fighters and fighter bombers of 6 or 8 127mm (5 inch) HVAR rockets are equivalent to a broadside by a destroyer when fired all at once.

@MrLBPug 2 ай бұрын

Skip bombing as well. Using a 500lbs or 250lbs bomb that, well, _skips_ along the water surface onto a big merchant ship, causes far more damage than a 75mm shell. It wasn't a bad idea per se to try and use a big cannon, it's just that other methods were more effective.

@obsidianjane4413 2 ай бұрын

AktUalLY... The T13E1 75mm was developed as a lightweight gun for the B-25H to be able to fire the French 75mm round. It was the US's common artillery shell. It was only somewhat related to the M4's gun. I think just the breechblock. It was then applied to the M-24 light tank. So it was an aircraft gun that became a tank gun.

@dougjb7848 2 ай бұрын

You said AktUalLY and I looked around for Jingles.

@ImperatorRomulus 2 ай бұрын

P39: I have a 37mm. B25: Hold my beer!

@kristoffermangila 2 ай бұрын

You should have added the Luftwaffe's BK-5 57mm autocannon.

@mikepette4422 2 ай бұрын

@@kristoffermangila or the BK 75 on the Henschel 129 I think cris has a video on that. Now THATS the granddaddy of aerial mounted guns at least from WW2 because the Spooky exists today ;)

@thecommentaryking 2 ай бұрын

P.108A: none o

@thecommentaryking 2 ай бұрын

P.108A: peasants

@christofferwillenfort4035 2 ай бұрын

@@kristoffermangila the BK-5 was a 50mm if you want a 57mm you need the "Bofors 57 mm flygplanautomatkanon L/50" or the "Molins QF 6-Pounder Mk IIA"

@michaelguerin56 2 ай бұрын

Good video Christoph. Thank you. The RAF only fielded a single squadron of Mosquito MkVIII fighter bombers with the Molins 57mm and I understand that they were normally escorted by standard Mosquito fighter bombers. They reportedly used solid shot with the intention of putting holes in a ship’s engine block/s. Also quite good on submarine pressure hulls, I believe.

@richardvernon317 2 ай бұрын

They were designed to put holes in U-boats. By the time they got them into service, the 3 inch rocket on the Standard Mosquito FB Mk VI was found to be a better weapon.

@michaelguerin56 2 ай бұрын

@richardvernon317 Cheers, I couldn't be bothered doing a 'deep dive' into my books at that stage of the evening.

@richardvernon317 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelguerin56 AAEE gave the aircraft a Double plus good appraisal when the Trials were done on the Tsetse, but the problem with the 57mm gum was once all the ammo was fired, the aircraft had to lug around a buttload of dead weight.

@mikepette4422 2 ай бұрын

The Molins gun was pretty effective big enough to hurt and small enough to have a good rate of fire

@mbryson2899 2 ай бұрын

I can't remember the channel, but I watched an interview with a Tsetse pilot. Hearing what it was like from a primary source was fascinating to me.

@patrickwentz8413 2 ай бұрын

So the real punch from the A 20, B 26, B 25 came from either skip bombing or parachute borne fragmentation bombs when operating low level. A 75 could have been useful a year earlier going after light shipping or when attacking an airfield point target.

@jagtone 2 ай бұрын

Marauders were not really used in this low-level role (or were tried and withdrawn). They were primarily used at medium altitude.

@50043211 18 күн бұрын

"why would you put a cannon on an plane?" because its cool and dont worry about the recoil and the damage it does to the air frame! And while we are at it, paint it red so it flies faster! WWWHHHHAAAARRRGGGGGG

@glennheth3472 2 ай бұрын

My Grandpa was a propeller expert for the Army Air Corps in the Pacific and the Mitchell was his absolute favorite aircraft of all time. And he loved that some crazy person decided to shove a tank cannon in the nose.

@Colonel_Overkill 2 ай бұрын

Everybody loves more dakka lol

@keepyourbilsteins 2 ай бұрын

Very cool! My grandfather ran one of the propeller shops at Drew Field (now McDill) in Florida. I'm willing to bet both handled many of the same props during the war.

@glennheth3472 2 ай бұрын

@@keepyourbilsteins @keepyourbilsteins Probably! Grandpa worked for Hamilton Standard, which made almost all of the propellers for the USAAF and the Navy. He was basically a civilian contractor but the Army gave him a field a commission when he shipped out to the Pacific.

@brennus57 2 ай бұрын

"Why put a tank gun on an airplane?", to keep the A-10 in service obviously. But are you actually hinting, nay even suggesting that the solution is to arm the venerable Warthog with a six-barrel, 75mm / 70??? You're mad, man! Utterly mad! The added weight and recoil! We'll need more engines and a lot more wing area. It will have to be a biplane. It's brilliant. Where's my slide rule. There will be dozens of calculations to make this work...

@angrybirder9983 2 ай бұрын

The "big gun on a plane" concept has largely outlived its usefulness. Completely removing the gun from the A-10 would save a good amount of weight, but also mess with the center of gravity so much that it would tip over. A 70mm would be completely insane, since (guided) 70mm rockets (APKWS) can do the same job much better.

@johnwillis4706 2 ай бұрын

My dad was a B-17 pilot in WWII. Among hi old photos was picture of a B-25 with 4 fifties and 4 40mm Bofers in the nose. Dad said it worked well for ships and tanks, but you had to watch how many rounds you fired because the recoil of the Bofers slowed the plane down and if you kept firing you could stall the plane. Dad always said the B-25 in the right hands flew more like a fighter than a bomber. He said it's maneuverability, agility and tight turning radius made it the perfect plane for a lot of mission besides bombing.

@fazole 2 ай бұрын

There is an EXCELLENT wartime documentary of B-25s operating in the Pacific called "Mission to Rabaul".

@habu027 2 ай бұрын

My 5th grade teacher was a navigator on a B-25 with a 75 mm in the nose, during WWII, in the Pacific. "We hunted ships," he said.

@mikek5895 Ай бұрын

My father, a sergeant 6:05 in the US Marine Corp, flew combat missions in a B25 Mitchell in the South Pacific. He flew in many attack missions against Japanese strongholds in Rabual.

@kevincalhoun9653 2 ай бұрын

Honestly? I genuinely feel that this presentation is your very best one, so far! You obviously did the research. You considered how to present, and then you DID! One of my all time favorite airframes. Thank you for your effort.

@billwendell6886 2 ай бұрын

The aircraft shown is NEAM, Windsor Locks CT aka Bradley Field. No radar used, it was an anti tank/ship weapon " A good crew could get off 3 rounds per attack" And " it damn near stopped the airplane in flight "

@TheKerberos84 7 күн бұрын

Airforce: We need a Ground Attack Airplane. What weapons should it have? Airforce: YES

@ericblom9568 2 ай бұрын

So, basically the piston-powered GrandFather to the A-10 Warthog, right?? Hell, YEAH Brother!!!

@donaldlouisjohn3652 27 күн бұрын

Good to see you after a long break. In first grade, my favorite planes were the Hellcat, because of a newsreel piece about the new plane that could face up to the zero. Also, the B-25, because of a small plastic toy that i loved but lost. A few years ago i had to make a 1/75 scale plastic model to replace it. I never heard of a B-25 with a tank gun, but did see footage of strafing operations of the B-25, maybe in New Guinea. You may remember me. I’m the one who painted a PBY with military markings for the movie, Midway ( 1976 ). I remember your dream of getting one of the last PBYs to live and travel in. I’m still ‘praying’ for you.

@Zajuts149 2 ай бұрын

The concept of a big gun on an aircraft is always fascinating, but it always seems like there are either more practical options or the cannon-ship is too limited in its application. The Mosquito Mk. XVIII 'Tsetse' with its 57mm cannon, was made superfluous by the RP-3 rocket in the anti-shipping role, used by Coastal Command Mosquitoes and Beaufighters.

@michijimc9753 2 ай бұрын

The ingenuity of Pappy Gunn really turned the B-25 into such a formidable air to ground commerce destroyer. Look up the biography of him and learn of one of Americas truly unsung “field expedient” practitioners in the South Pacific.

@Zajuts149 2 ай бұрын

IIRC, there was a plan to mount a 37mm on the A-26, but it seems only the bomber nose and .50 cal gunship noses were used in the field. It seems that both the A-26 and the B-25 could mount an astounding amount of forward-firing .50 cals, with upwards of 20 that could theoretically be carried, with additional wing mounting and gun pods. I think in practice, only the glazed nose variants of both aircraft used wing-mounted guns. Would love to see pictures that prove me wrong😊

@mattorama 2 ай бұрын

It was worth the investment because the idea of putting huge artillery in planes lead to the AC-130 Spooky.

@philp8872 2 ай бұрын

Not really related. The concept of gunships like the AC-47 or AC-130 is completly different. The guns fire out of the side of the ac so while it is circling it can fire CONSTANTLY, on ground (not naval) targets. It's basically a form of CAS and only possible if you have air superiority and little to no SAM and heavy AAA threat. (although you can defeat light AAA by staying high)

@matchesburn Ай бұрын

The American mentality is that "there is a space there, it can fit, or we can make it fit, therefore we can put a gun there; we will put a gun there." We followed the same mentality on our ships, too. Where the to the point that whenever we refitted or made a new fleet carrier we put more Bofors or 20mm Oerlikons on it. To the point that we were actually running of spaces to put them. America actually played Tetris with how to fit more guns on its aircraft and ships.

@TexasEngineer Ай бұрын

My father was a B25 pilot in the Mediterranean, 12th Air Force. I think you nailed it with the flack making the cannon useless. He used to tell stories about how they would fly in on bombing runs to avoid the flack. One method would be to change altitude as they crossed the 88 flack guns so they could not get a fix on the fuse timing. When I was growing up my father showed be a piece of flack he pull out of his engine cowling and kept in his top dresser drawer. It did leave a lasting impression on him. Joseph Heller wrote a book about his unit, Catch 22.

@frasermitchell9183 2 ай бұрын

My father was posted to 139 WIng, 2nd Tactical Airforce in 1944. They operated B25s and he was one of the radio mechanics. They were the perfect aircraft for their role, but he never mentioned anything about those fitted with very heavy cannons. Anyway, he was eventually moved up to Achmer Aerodrome in late 1945, and was there when the war ended on 9th May.

@richardvernon317 2 ай бұрын

2 TAF's Mitchell's were used as Medium Bombers. These aircraft were a 5th Air Force in the Pacific invention.

@MrDdaland 2 ай бұрын

I will throw one caveat out about this- remember, for a large part of the war the Southwest Asia operations were largely considered low priority, so they rarely got the equipment and support needed- so they had to make do and improvise with whatever they could beg ,borrow or steal (and salvage from wrecks) In fact, quite a few of the "field modifications" of the aircraft flown by the 5th Air Force were the result of 2 men in particular , General George Kenney and Major Paul "Pappy" Gunn. In fact, when Kenney took over in Sept of 42, he did a inspection tour of his units. When he came to Gunns unit, he found him in coveralls on the flight line modifying a A-20 to add extra 50 cals scavenged from crashed P-40's to the nose of the aircraft. Quite a few of their ideas worked out, such as the strafing version of the A-20's & B-25's, the skip bombing techniques, the parachute bombs, etc. The 75 mm gun version obviously was a bit of a mixed bag

@klaymann888 10 күн бұрын

luv how you have a Dornier model in the background, my Opa flew these in the early years of WW2 before transferring to fighters for the rest of the war .... died aged 74

@Caseytify 2 ай бұрын

The USAAF already had an effective strafer, albeit not designed for the role: the P-38. Four .50s and a 20mm autocannon made for some nasty hits.

@Rolandeld1999 Ай бұрын

I wonder how many times I walked by this thing at the air museum with minimal interest because it wasn't a fighter. Gives me a reason to go back

@wandrinyew Ай бұрын

8:41 "So if you're fascinated by these targets, I mean vehicles..." Hilarious.

@davidbriggs7365 2 ай бұрын

Tis better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. I agree with a number of other commentators that the B-25 with a 75mm would have been superb in 1942 around Guadalcanal, but almost useless in 1945 nearing Japan.

@davefranklin4136 Ай бұрын

There's a book called Whip, by Martin Caidin, about B-25s in the New Guinea theater. It is a novel; IIRC "Pappy" Gunn is in it, but the protagonist is fictitious. There's a line at the end of the book that I thought so perfect, and obviously always remembered. They are talking about how the success of the field-mod strafers has resulted in making them at the factory. Someone states, "They're even making one with a 75mm cannon." The response is "I'll buy a war bond if I don't have to fly it..."

@Colonel_Overkill 2 ай бұрын

I have always loved these quirky overgunned aircraft from various nations.

@Mr4rmyy Ай бұрын

I like this "a chat with Chris" camera angle!

@boston7704 2 ай бұрын

These was a devastatingly effective attack plane. Pilots also learned to “skip” bombs off the water into Japanese ships.

@lorettahookano6139 Ай бұрын

Wow, I really appreciate someone who know’s their stuff !

@KHKH-os6kt 2 ай бұрын

I had an American cousin who loaded and fired the 75 mil on the B25H. He told me back in the late 70's that by the time they got the B25H there was really nothing Japanese to shoot up.

@ranr44 2 ай бұрын

No mention of Pappy Gunn, the man that was most responsible for adding the extra guns and later putting the cannon in the nose . He did the initial install and then worked with the engineers to improve structure. He was also the first one to sink a Japanese destroyer with the gun. It took quite a few passes though. Although he wasn't supposed to be flying any missions per General Kenny. Also not mentioned was that the bombs usually didn't penetrate the hull. After losing an aircraft that was following to close to the lead when the bomb went off they started using delay fuses. When the bombs went off under the ship the hull cracked and usually sank the ship. The tactic they used was to have one aircraft strafe the ship lengthwise and then the other come in to the side and skip the bombs into it. Read the book the Saga of Pappy Gunn Gen Kennys Reports(down loadable ). I first read about Pappy Gunn in Readers Digest in grade school. When my mother saw the name she told me that he used to come into a cafe she worked at in Charters Towers, QLD, Australia where I was born. That was the first forward operating air base for the USAAF in 1942.

@MrRipper1956 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Chris for including the Devil Dog. That is the displayed USMC B25 owned by the CAF based in Georgetown, TX. I wish I knew that you were in the area as I am a crew chief on her. This one has an interesting history as it started as a glass-nosed USAAF WWII bomber and was heading into the Pacific for the invasion of Japan. After the A-Bomb she was halted en route and retirned to the States After a few years of storage, she was then used by the new USAF as an advanced trainer for pilots going into heavies at Reese AFB in Lubbock, TX. Surplused in the 1960s she was sold to private operators ending up flying explosives for mining operations in South America. The last owner had her restored and configured to commemorate one of his WWII friends who was lost on his last mission in the Pacific while flying the PBJ-1. The CAF acquired her afterward and is now based on Georgetown, TX. Good job on this concept story Chris.

@BruceEEvans1 Ай бұрын

My father was a radio operator on A b-25 in the Indo-China theater of war. He told me that when the cannon was fired the plane did NOT go backwards in the air. But it did stop. 😏

@theonemacduff 2 ай бұрын

The CAF, a while back, used to stand for Confederate Air Force. I don't know they changed it to Commemorative, but it was a good decision, imho.

@bennettcrozier344 Ай бұрын

Even as far as games go, playing simulator battles with a plane equipped with a large caliber weapon in war thunder proves to me that without thick AA cover, these tank guns are far more deadly to armor or emplacements than bombs that could just get replaced by tank gun HE.

@hlynnkeith9334 2 ай бұрын

2:37 Correction: General George Kenney, vice Keeney. General Kenney was a great combat leader. His air campaign over New Guniea was brilliant.

@kristoffermangila 2 ай бұрын

Here's a surprising fact about the 75mm gun on the B-25 - that gun became the main gun of the M24 Chaffee light tank which was a design of... Cadillac.

@JG-mp5nb 2 ай бұрын

Always a fresh look at a subject we thought we knew.

@mechs_with_hands 2 ай бұрын

I think that if the B-25G had been available in time for the fights in the Marianas, and Guadalcanal, it would have bee a real show stopper. Unfortunately a good idea for '42, and '43, makes for a poor idea in '44, and '45.

@scottishscott3504 2 ай бұрын

The B-25 is one of my favorite planes.

@ronmailloux8655 Ай бұрын

I had the fortunate experience to be inside a B25 at an airshow in my home town. It was the star of the show and for 500 dollars you could go for a short ride after signing a waver. I settled for the inside tour. Was an amazing experience.

@moalongkumer3232 Ай бұрын

Some years back, I got a chance to examine one engine block and the T13E1 cannon of General Orde Wingate's B25H (43-4242) which crashed near Thuilon Village, Tamenlong District, Manipur, India. The Assam Rifles had salvaged some of it and they now are on display at the Assam Rifles Museum, Laitkor, Shillong. The aircraft belonged to the 1st Air Commando Group, I believe.

@ChristopherBourseau 2 ай бұрын

Wunderbar! Great video, Chris!

@gilatrout5301 2 ай бұрын

Highly recommended the book Air Apaches. Excellent read

@PiGood 2 ай бұрын

I remember a B25 pilot giving a talk at our school once. He said theoretically you could fire 7-10 rounds before the plane would stall due to the loss of air speed. However in practice, they could typically only manage 3-5 shots. Apparently the smoke from the cannon would get funneled in to the plane and make it's way in to the cockpit. After 3-5 rounds you would often no longer be able to see out the windshield.

@danielburgess7785 2 ай бұрын

The anti-insurgency H variants were used into the 1960s.

@immikeurnot 2 ай бұрын

I think you're thinking of the A-26/B-26.

@billbarton9046 2 ай бұрын

Yet another informative video.Nice one.

@goetzliedtke 2 ай бұрын

My uncle, Sidney Ballard, told me about B-25's with cannon that he maintained during WWII in New Guinea. He had been an enlisted man in the US Navy and left the navy to become an engineer, managing the logistics of various civil engineering projects. Sid worked for Aviation Enterprises managing maintenance when it started in 1940 in Houston, Texas. Shortly after the start of WWII, he joined the USAAF and was eventually sent to New Guinea to manage aircraft maintenance at an air-base there. I don't know which air-base, but it had hangars (he told a story involving Japanese prisoner labor, a fighter pilot who hated Japanese, and a hanger that was shot up until the figher's guns jammed). He told me that he had ridden in a B-25 with the 75mm gun for a mission which was successful. I don't know whether that was anti-shipping or ground attack. He and the crew thought the gun was not very effective. The aircraft were equipped with racks for rockets on the wings which were, according to Sid, more effective weapons.

@goetzliedtke 2 ай бұрын

The reason I know of the rockets is because Sid was educating me on practicality and safety. Apparently, the rockets were loaded on racks which also ignited them with electricity (kind of like an Estes Rocket Engine). The pilot had a switch in the cockpit to ignite the rockets (I don't know if they all went of at once or not). The rack had a hook and a socket with the electric connection - loading involved hooking the rocket's front on the hook and plugging the rocket into the socket. This may have been a field mod since the incident occurred because the switch had been connected reversed. The loader checked the cockpit and made sure the switch was in the off position. He then hooked the rocket on the rack and, when he plugged it into the socket, the rocket ignited and the blast killed him.

@neilwilson5785 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video as always.

@NielMalan Ай бұрын

"The accuracy of projectiles going down is inversely proportional to the accuracy of projectiles going up."

@theodoremccoll3267 Ай бұрын

My neighbor was a Marine Corps pilot on a B-25, on 6 August 1945 he attacked Rabul. He said they liked the 75mm hitting force but the recoil slowed the plane down too much. He said they would only fire once during an attack. His target priorities were ships, planes, boats and finally anything that they could find. Which was often soldiers farming. On the 16th he was on his way back to Rabal. The crew was told the war was over by radio, so they, dropped everything in the ocean, bombs, .50, and 75

@philgiglio7922 2 ай бұрын

The Mosquito had only the pilot. No room in the cockpit for a second seat and controls

@stevenkraft8070 2 ай бұрын

What might be an interesting for a future video would be something on the B-24 variants that conducted low-level nighttime anti-shipping operations along the coast of China. Operating from central Chinese bases, those mounted radar and operated against convoys between Southeast Asia and Japan all the way into 1945.

@Spitfiresammons 2 ай бұрын

It’s crazy to see a 75mm cannon added to the B-25 to must it against the Japanese ships and ground targets.

@chrisstenger3719 2 ай бұрын

Great video! Luv to see one on the A-26 invader.

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 2 ай бұрын

Chris: *_"... armed with a big BOOM-BOOM."_* And THAT is ONE READON why we love Chris's channel...😊 *EDIT→* *_"by these targets...I mean vehicles"_* Same...🤭

@johnnyallred3753 2 ай бұрын

Great video on the B-25 gun bus and the 75 mm!. It reminds me of the A-10's 30mm

@timothyboles6457 2 ай бұрын

Interesting observations on the 75mm B25. I have seen videos of ground attack by the B25g and h, as well as attacking shipping. And time-line wise, you are correct, there was less and less shipping to target. 😊

@paulknapp6765 2 ай бұрын

My Great Uncle trained crews on the B-25G or H in Florida. He said when the 75 fired, it was hitting a brick wall.

@bennettcrozier344 Ай бұрын

8:40 bro got too enveloped into the anti tank and shipping aircraft and accidentally called shermans targets 🤣

@andrewadkins5567 2 ай бұрын

I love how you call the tanks targets 😂

@patrickshaw8595 2 ай бұрын

You mean to tell me the Allies never got to shoot one of these into a submarine ? I'm American but the "Tse-Tse Fly" version of the De Havilland with the British Army "6-pounder" 57mm infantry antitank gun. It even had a pretty good autoloader made designed and built by a cigarette vending machine manufacturer.

@Aettaro 2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile over in WarThunder, I'm sure someone is sniping other aircraft out of the air with this thing.

@fazole 2 ай бұрын

It surprised me that Doolittle advocated removing the Copilot position. I wonder if he was influenced by the Mosquito design which also has no copilot position.

@DanielESmith-iz7lx 2 ай бұрын

Tanks. Targets. Subtle. Hillarious. Similar to how Submariners refer to surface ships. I've been to the New England Air Museum. Great crew there.

@ChristianGurney 2 ай бұрын

A family friend, John Fitch, participated in the flight testing of this weapon off the east coast of the US. He later moved on to the 4th Fighter Group flying P-51s against Germany. He survived the war, was a notable auto racer and invented the yellow sand-filled highway barrel, the “Fitch Barrier”.

@jaytowne8016 2 ай бұрын

Enjoyed your video!

@joelrawlston1206 Ай бұрын

While on Guam in the mid 70s we found a crashed b25 configured with a 75 mm

@dayradebaugh 2 ай бұрын

Great video. Love your channel!

@plum_pie6402 2 ай бұрын

grand video! love the editing and great content. very cool!

@davedarling4316 2 ай бұрын

The volume level in the "Special Outro" is significantly higher than that of the rest of the video. I had to turn it down to listen to it. Cool chunk of wood, though...

@MilitaryAviationHistory 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, not sure why there is such a significant difference. In the render it appeared fine for me

@aaronseet2738 2 ай бұрын

I would've expected the wings to outright break off and fly forward while the fuselage flies backwards.

@jonathanbailey5334 2 ай бұрын

have a look at the Tsetse Mosquito used by the RAF for anti shipping strikes - I think it was abandoned in favour of rocket firing Mosquitos and Beaufighters. I think the Tsetse used the British QF 6 pounder with auto feed added !!

@matthewwagner47 2 ай бұрын

The A-20 was turned into madmax aircraft. Some crews would basicaly turn there bomber into a fighter with up to 20×50 cal or more. Rigged so the pilot could fire most guns. They would also put larger caliber weapons on the attack bomber varients.

@jt95124 2 ай бұрын

I saw a youtube video of b-25s strafing a Japanese air base.. They started firing the 75 at long range, then the .50s, then dropped parafrag bombs. This was a fairly wide area attck because the personnel and planes were dispersed in the jungle, so accuracy was not as mimportat, there were many planes in a wide formation to cover the area.. So the 75 was not only used for attacking ships. The 75s filled the plane with smoke, the maintenance problems, and difficult reloading, etc. The man reloading was lying down in a tight space. I think those things limited their use. As for sinking ships, skip bombing was the widely used effective thing anyway. So it would not surprise me that the 75 had issues and might not have been used much.

@Sendlopal 2 ай бұрын

I love the parapraxis, tank/target.

@psychocuda 2 ай бұрын

Was there any evidence of using the 75 mm on non-shipping related targets? I would imagine against trains or even hardened ground positions, it would be a useful weapon to field.