Are they working on this for console as well?

@@braymo1911 Unfortunately not. This is a mod for the Steam version only.

@@anilykabarry4380 I'm not a fan of the boss characters, too convoluted, but Hermit should REALLY be added to the base game. It's that good.

Is downfall an official patch or pack for the game? Or just some modding by 3rd party person?

@@darkrebel123 It is not official -- it's a mod pack by a large group of people, containing several new characters, relics, events, etc.

and Hermit has both discard and exhaust

It's from the developers of another roguelite called Monolith, basically a shoot em up kinda thing. Only 8 dollars, very worth it.

I'm so excited. I don't own a PC so the only way I get to live this mod is through KZfaqrs and the majority of KZfaqrs I've watched just are either really rude or just not good at the game. I'm so excited.

it checks on kill as you could see on the "science test" elite kill. It gives a Bounty buff on the player of the specified amount

@@TheLifeLaVita if anything, it proves the opposite. sure, giving the bounty is checked on kill, but were the bounty grade would be decided then as well, the kill should've given only 15 gold since he killed a "normal enemy" then

@@yahhav345 ehm idk why you're assuming stuff while there's video proof lmao. It doesn't prove the opposite because there's video proof, I told you in the comment. 41:10 there you go I searched it for you. Also how does "it checks on kill what grade of bounty it's given" prove that it doesn't check on kill what grade of bounty it's given? 😅

@@TheLifeLaVita A) you are absolutely right that we are both assuming. I thought it was clear while it seems that it wasn't, and I apologize for it B) the "science test" went the following way: in the slavers fight, there are 3 enemies. 2 of them (the left and the right ones) we know to behave like "normal" mobs when encountered in other fights, as we see both of them as "normal" enemies in act 1. the middle one, on the other hand, we only encounter in "elite" fights: the slaver fight and the colosseum second fight (which give relics, a tell that it's probably count as an elite fight. again: an assumption). now, the test itself: instead of using the "dead or alive" to kill the "elite", the middle one, he used it on the "normal" one, the left one. if the bounty gives 15 gold it means it checks the enemy, and if it gives 40 it might still check the enemy, but that means the status of an enemy is fluid, or it checks what type of battle it is. as we know, it gave 40 in the end, which is why baalord found it "interesting", and what made me make the assumptions. the time stamp I used is retroactive to what I thought is the first tell something like this might be happening, so there will be a better context (since the second one is already pointed at directly)

@@yahhav345 bruh... I gave you the timestamp too. In your comment you were thinking of the bounty checking for which reward to give during the reward. I gave you proof that it checks THE AMOUNT OF BOUNTY TO GIVE (15, 40, 100) when you kill the enemy DURING the battle, not at the reward after the battle, and it gives it to you already as a numbered debuff. I'm not assuming anything... I just watched the video and corrected you since you maybe missed it, because it would be reasonable to think that if there's only footage of bounties obtained through the last enemy, but there's footage so we know for sure. Long story short: You said what would be a reason to give bounties afterwards, I showed you that the reason you gave is false and not related to that choice

2 Injuries is a bitch though

Maintenance has actually been pretty much completely reworked. It now says "Strikes do an additional 3(4) damage this combat. (Gain 1 Dexterity)"

@@hobez64 Why was it changed to that? Upgrades also increased their damage by +3 right, what was the reason for changing how it works?

@@alper9979 For Strikes, I think the change is irrelevant. But the change to Dex trades specialisation for flexibility; Defends suffer, but other defensive cards benefit. Currently, the card has been changed again to give 1 Dex at base and 2 Dex when upgraded, which combined with the cost reduction arguably make it a stronger card.

I can count the number of fan mods for any game that are actually balanced on one hand... after severing all of my fingers.

Mint the spire, relic stats and bestiary are all balanced, because they are all QOL and don't affect the gameplay. Checkmate

It's confusing how quite a few in the Steam community think they're 'weak' when they have so many good tools and such good synergy with relics.

How do you scale with hermit? This run got hard carried by sadistic nature + red candle and ice cream. Dead on and self debuff are basically all frontload, strike/defend synergy requires obscene amount of energy to do what it wants and the curse "archetype" suffers greatly from hermit's abyssmal card draw.

Unfortunately the dude kinda got crippled with nerfs as of very recent. They nerfed Maintenance hard. And its very difficult to scale with him as only Deadeye, Determination, and Plated Armor provide real scaling. Still fun but he's not in a good spot

@@JulianHernandez-tn5gu But Maintenance is now 1-cost even at base, so the focus seems to be shifted to quantity rather than quality, i.e. playing it more by taking more copies and/or improving card draw. It's a bit early to tell if it's an objective downgrade.

@@hautakleightontam771 Good point. I see the main issue of Maintenance being the loss of the scaling for Defends as you now have to upgrade it to have defensive scaling. While yes it's probably a bad idea in general to have 2 in 1 scaling card it was mostly balanced by the fact you had to play Strikes and Defends. It's closest analogue is probably Reprogram, where you effectively cripple part of your character for large benefits. Also the Hermit has terrible card draw unfortunately. Only really Luck of the Draw or Dead Man's Hand are useful for it. It seems like a big nerf because the Hermit already struggles badly with card draw or deck thinning. Compounding issues basically. Sorry if it's a bit wordy

Yeah, essentially here they're getting used as intense statuses, but I will say the idea of a character juggling all those misfortunes in their fighting style is a compelling image

You can use Downfall as the Steam mod instead - it's the same, and lets you use your mods. The Steam-packaged version is just an alternate launcher.

Not necessarily a “form” as it were, but he has a Concentrate state

yes