I was so disappointed I made this in two days. I put off playing Elden Ring out of some maddening need to talk about this game. More videos to come.

The fact they are charging 59.99 is fkn hilarious

The game looks like a launch PS3 action RPG that 20 years later a video by a small up-and-coming channel would pop up in your recommendations calling it "underrated"

"If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again." A motto Square REALLY needs to chuck in the bin when it comes to "Live Service" games.

The real tragedy is that this took Platinum 4 years to make

An oil-painting themed videogame sure sounds like a great idea. But it's not something you suddenly decide to do mid-development. Take a look at Spiderman into the Spiderverse, their art creators spent over a year just trying to get the art style right and THEN they proceeded to make the film. That should've been the case with Babylon's Fall. Really huge dissapointment from Platinum Games.

Ohh you were the Eldin Ring guy I saw in town! haha awesome!

Fuck man. This is just sad for PG. Remember their motto? "Platinum never loses its luster". Shame this industry is so rotten nowadays.

What hurts me is that with PlatinumGames wanting to start making their own live service games to help earn profit for their own projects, people will look at Babylon's Fall as an indicative of how those games will turn out. And I know without a publisher to mess with them, PG can do so much better.

I was summoned by Chewie and Fuckface and tbh your content is highly underrated, I hope you blow up sometime soon. You're engaging, funny and highly articulate. Also the graphics remind me of hit indie jank Alt-F4 except worse in every way because one was a funnie rage game made by a single dev and the other had Squeenix money behind it

Knowing that pg made MGR revengeance, you see the similarities between it and the old trailer. The part where your character steals some sort of essence out of an enemy is very reminiscent of Raiden stealing electrolytes. Guess that's what they were going for before investors went "no we want live action garbage NOW"

making a square enix account was the hardest thing about starting FFXIV like 6 years ago so i'm glad to see they haven't improved that process at all.

Ah good ol Japanese mocap. The same running/walking/cheering/falling over animations for NPCs they've been using longer than some people on youtube have been alive.

Update: its been shelved

4:15 "Paintbrush Filter" You know, they solved this problem with the first Valkyria Chronicles. I don't know how anyone could have a problem with this, considering they also got it to work with the PSP games.

Always good to see XIV's money being used for such smash hits

20:11 there I am 8 months ago disappointed beyond belief . Funny enough that money I saved. I spent it paying my excess taxes and that was more fun than playing Babylons fall.

"FF14 is pretty cool I guess, but I wish there was an action combat game for me to get into instead." - Me, apparently in close proximity to a monkey's paw.

Can we talk about the fact that they made that cutscene and made it a very important point to show that floating lady’s feet.

It's so annoying how heavy-handed SE seems to be in this Platinum game. I imagine this was made by interns with SE management breathing on their necks.

When you first described the multiplayer scaling (or lack thereof), I thought there game was changing nothing for solo players, but after seeing you survive that giant attack from the boss, I think Platinum decided the only thing to scale was enemy damage, but not HP, so whilst the enemies have 4x the HP that they should for a solo player, they are constantly only doing 25% damage, which is why you end up in this boring slog situation

The 2019 trailer looked pretty good and it seemed like we were in for a decent game. The art style stood out now it looks like a generic mobile game with a d-tier story. After playing the demo I think the game has a solid combat system but would have been better off as a single player campaign. However Square Enix seems to have an obsession with GAAS lately. I don't understand publishers prefer to make a mediocre live service game that will probably be dead in six months instead of a solid single player campaign with the option of paid dlc.

Damn. I was super hype for this. This is just sad. Made worse by Platinum's recent fishing for someone to buy them. Which could be cool and allow them to get funding for some passion projects and stuff, but with this being the sort of products they are releasing atm, I have my doubts of someone thinking that would be a good idea. What happened Platinum. Thanks for the good vid.

The tavern music sounds like incidental SpongeBob music. I can just picture a scene at the Krusty Krab when it’s playing.

They saw Destiny (2) and thought to themselves: "Hey, let's do that, except none of the good parts!"

That thing about moving on from Automata is so fucking true. Hopefully it doesn't ruin platinum cause that game had a much simpler gameplay compared to the previous ones. Without Taro the style is fully souless, no interesting enemies nor world, nor ways of the game interacting with the player. Just a grind fest

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed with the demo too. I don't want to see Platnum die because I really loved Metal Gear Rising and Bayonetta, but this already is looking like a flop. It's a brand new demo for everyone to try and I still had difficulty finding 4 people to queue with to take on the first actual boss, Zenon. Also, his MMO insta-down explosion attack which requires 4 people to cooperate to destroy is unfair considering there's no way to communicate with your party members. The art style and general aesthetic actually reminded me Greedfall (a AA single player RPG set on a fantasy island with a plague afffecting the population, what a coincidence.) The worst part is that the melee combat feels super unsatisfying, which is not something you want to see from a PLATNUM game of all things. When I spent more time using bows instead of swords and hammers, that's a problem. The live service aspects like the Battlepass and paid currency is an even further slap in the face. You can either pay with cash or with your precious time, and with combat this bland, I think my time is better spent with another game. On one hand, Platnum is on verge of bankruptcy so I can see why they went this path. On the other hand, this is destroying consumer goodwill while not being likely to bring in the massive profit they were expecting. Honestly, I would be down for a co-op dungeon crawler like the vaporware Deep Down, but this just isn't it.

and here i thought it was only dragon age suffering the curse of "single player game focused on story turns into online multi player". too bad only dragon age 4 apparently managed to escape this fate ç-ç

Live service: exists Square enix: *While eating rocks* why is my games failing?

OUTRIDERS WAS NOT BILLED AS A LIVE SERVICE GAME. Just a complete game which it was. And they gave extra content for free, and the devlopers said that they wouldn't be making DLC.

I can only pray that Bayonetta 3 is good enough to save Platinum from the past few years of either mediocrity or ...well nothing, it's been this and Astral Chain for the past 3 years now.

"It is made by Platinum Games." Me: Oh? "and published by Square Enix" Me: Oh...

I had that exact same thought about the title card drop. The a title card drop should be at or after an epic moment that has you like “okay NOW we’re in!” But this was like “eh yeah… get off the boat, see a bunch of boring nothingness… Title.” The title drop should’ve been RIGHT after the Gideon coffin kills those people, not BEFORE because that’s the moment where you find out shit is fucked up. But then they missed the mark even MORE cuz there’s a SECOND title card shortly after that’s also weirdly timed? I knew the game would disappoint me from there… just bad attention to detail and direction.

Let's face it, Platinum never had good story in their games unless it's based on another game, like Revengeance or Automata. And my god, Square Enix management likely killed this game before it released. Can't wait for NFTs as well

I cant wait for Matt's Wha Happun

I got to that SE account login screen, saw that job application they require for a user name, then immediately deleted the demo.

I'm convinced someone at Square Enix just said "FFXIV makes us so much money! Just make us another FFXIV! I don't care how you do it, I just want MORE MONEY!", to the point of corrupting single player games to make them live service co-op button mashers.

Personally like Outsiders, it's fun. Babylon's fall not so much

Buy Wonderful 101 remastered y'all, its a platinum masterpiece that deserves more

Woolie and Pat from CSB sent me! Great vid man, hope to hear more

I got to the first fight, it felt(and looks) terrible and stiff and I immediately deleted it off the PS5. The audacity i had to actually give this game a chance while forbidden west and elden ring were just sitting there waiting to be played.

With how this game ultimately turned out, "Platinum's Fall" may have been a more appropriate for it. Though I have a feeling that most of the blame probably lies at Squareenix here.

"its an expansive maze where u run through thousands of rooms" "what? how are we going to make thousands of rooms?" "we wont. we'll make like 6 of them and then copy and paste it procedurally" "oh okay"

I don't think Outriders was live service game, live service implies a whole bunch of monetize content after release, last I checked that game that didn't have that

2 years later, and I was never aware of this... I freakin' love what Platinum has put out, and it would be a sin to let the company go under due to publisher bullshittery. There's no way in hell this is the game Platinum wanted to make. Not even close. The weird thing is Square Enix let them make Neir: Automata, which by all accounts was a really weird risk on their part. And it did well! Why would they think "Hey, you know that company people like that makes sweet action games? What if instead of letting them do their thing and make us look good, we did what literally no one wants?"

Metal Gear Survive levels of bad. Speaking of Metal Gear, these guys somehow made Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance! How?

I actually cannot believe they're charging £10 more than Elden Ring for this on Steam.

This is the first time I've seen someone else mentioned Metal Gear Online 2 in a video like this. That game was worth dealing with the account shenanigans because it was awesome, but this game? oh boy man what the fuck happened

I didn't think I'd have a visceral reaction in my gut, yet here we are. Nicely done on the video. Well-paced and gives the most important details.

This is a stupid nitpick but Outriders was always marketed as a shooter with a campaign and maybe one or two DLCs if it did well. They were actually pretty up front that it was NOT intended to be a live service game in any way. A series one day maybe, but not a live service game.

Outriders was never supposed to be live service, and it didn't fail. It was a fun game that had an end, much like the Borderlands games, but with slightly less content. They have a planned DLC, and no "live service" updates to speak of.

Me remembers outriders clames of being a "complete game at launch, Isn't a GAAS" platinum games "Designed to be a GAAS" At least outriders was nice enough to lie to my face. I do think Square Enix may have done something to force Platnium to make BF a GAAS since the og trailers look so different or maybe its just a little bit of optimism trying not to think that another game studio has fallen this far.

OH YEAAAAHH! I fucking love it when some obvious uneducated interference in a process just ruins the whole thing. so much time, effort, skill and talent just fucking flushed down the toilet by (obvious) external incompetent decicions. LOVE IT. at least now I don't have fomo on this game any longer. I hope Platinum won't die..........

If Square are so desperate for a GAS, why wouldn't they they throw as much money at the project as it needs? We know Platinum can work magic, so it's not lack of talent.

the end times ... the end times are hereeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Me: Warhammer Fantasy ??

“What is worth more? Bad video games or life? Is it worth more than food? Worth more than justice? Are you more concerned about the protection of a poorly made video game or the protection of our planet and people? The cost of living crisis is part of the cost of oil crisis! Fuel is unaffordable, millions of cold hungry families, they can’t even afford to eat a tin of soup!”

fun fact: the day this game released, the number 1 trending game on steam was Sex With Hitler 2

May I remind you this was the same company that brought us metal gear rising revengeance

8:55 this was the moment i dropped the demo, because at this point it wasn't a demo for me anymore, i liked the idea of the game but it didn't hold me very long

This is definitely an example of a greedy corporate CEO saying, fuck single player, make it online, add a paid battlepass, but no, make it a full priced game too. Remove all the cool stuff you can do, you cant do it in co-op. Basically fuck the game you had planned because we want money.

Hi, I was brought here by Castle Super Beast. Nice vid! Dear god, why did they go with that art style? lol

Considering how greedy or broke Square Enix are recently with all the pricing... I think its their fault for ruining Babylon's Fall... I was really looking forward to that game and not this mess

Man, SE is really trying to get their own Live service game, which is understandable, but do you know what a live service game needs to work?, the same thing Avengers, Anthem and other games didn't have.. A good foundation.

It's crazy that even Absolver looks cleaner than this. Their style was intentional and looked amazing. Then I look at the PS2 "Final Fantasy-like" game...

Didn't know SE was planning to release Anthem 2

Big reception on this video... You might have to cover more of babylong fall

I enjoyed the anthem loading screen more

Dead before arrival

I actually downloaded the demo the moment it was announced just to see how bad it would be (beecause I'm a jaded bastard whose ability to be excited for new games was killed years ago) but then it wanted me to make a square enix account and enter it on a dualshock for a _demo_ so I just deleted it immediately and switched to that Fromsoftware game I've been meaning to play. By which I mean Metal Wolf Chaos XD. I've actually also been playing the Vanquish Remaster as well and...well it certainly is a juxtaposition that shows how far Platinum has fallen. You said this feels like seeing them take up drinking but I think it's more like, that was a while ago but now is the first time they come home blackout drunk with a belt in hand. First they were crowdfunding for a remaster. Ok that's weak but they were independently publishing a remaster of a Wii U exclusive with a cult following. But then they released the successor to Okami as an ios cashgrab that had to retroactively be turned into a non-mtx based REAL game following the backlash that probably wouldnt have even worked if Apple Arcade hadnt offered them a spot in that service. Now they made a garbage live-service at Squeenix's behest and are now working on a...successor to Final Fantasy Tactics. And while I'm all for developers branching out I seriously don't see why they're Co-Developing a top down tactics game that frankly looked like the most jank thing i've seen in any recent release for a long time. ....Anyways this was some well made content! Nice thing about these dumpster fires if nothing else is finding smaller but quality channels as i take in the schadenfreude (see the aforementioned cynicism).

I can't express how disappointed I am As a Nier automata fan, I was expecting so much from this game. I had the possibility to join the beta and I was already incredibly disappointed ( you talk about the graphics, but the paintbrush effect was even worse back then and made the action unreadable), beta phase 2 and still remained bad I hoped, oh I hoped ! That the final release would be better. I tried the demo today and I came to the same every single ones conclusions as you This is soooo far from the quality of Nier Automata...

Well, that was short. The game is officially shutting down next February

I can't believe this is the same team and project leader that made MGR.

At this point, square enix feels like it's not letting its developers create their vision and instead chooses what they think is more profitable. Balan wonderworld wasn't even supposed to be a console game, it was supposed to be a mobile one but square insisted it be published for consoles. I know that Platinum can't always be expected to pump out action game masterpieces (wonderful 101 is an example of this) but I don't think they would develop this type of game if not for publisher influence

If bayonetta 3 doesn't sell more copies than every other platinum release combined, that company is as good as dead.

Platinum: "Here's some Us stuff, since you hired us." Squeenix: "No, stop, change it." Platinum: "okay we changed it. Here's some more Us stuff since y-" Squeenix: "No, stop, change it." Platinum: "okay... here's some-" Squeenix: "Ship it."

Shempai recommended you, now I can tell why

Man I sure do love nouns

God Hand music!!! You are cultured

I wish I saw this video a few hours ago 😂 I bought the deluxe edition. I feel sick. Save your money. It’s not even worth $15.

Absolutely loved this video, you had me laughing until my sides literally hurt. I think I'm going to get the game now xD

U-uhm, w-well at least we stil have Bayonetta 3. BAH GAWD PLEASE LET THAT GAME BE GOOD, FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

I had my impressions that this was bad, but I didn't realize it was THAT bad. Great review

After you named your character I instantly subbed

I think The Division is possibly Destiny 2's closest competitor in the Live Service front but they haven't added any new content for a while and Ubisoft would probably proceeding to make a 3rd one like they did with Assassin's Creed. Destiny 2 has its own ups and downs. Learned one thing, ruined another, fix one thing, mess up another.

Wish they would've just made astral chain 2

it had been taken down from steam and service completely shut down

When all your money comes from ffxiv, you feel free to throw some misses out without feeling it in your pockets

This will be a ps plus game later this year

I actually confused Babylon's Fall and Elden Ring with each other for the longest time.

4:15 I heard that! Top of the Humans!

Lmfao. I literally rewinded and paused the feet part 5 times just so I could read the text in the corner. It was scoulding my for pausing the whole time

Square enix caught something from spending too much time with Konami

I can't believe PlatinumGames made this.

You can tell they shoehorn live service into this game. Almost like it was an afterthought

Platinum feels like its had a producer problem since its inception. Even their more coherent games like MGR was shown to be completely different when showing the games off to media outlets. The only games that feel polished inside and out are the Bayo titles

One thing Outriders wasn't a live service.

They definitely tried to suddenly become monster hunter. That's what happened.

CSB sent me here. Let's get these numbers up.

This is gold happy I found this channel!

If they wanted to make the game look like a painting, then maybe they should have done what Disco Elysium did and had brush strokes on the textures in the world (and maybe the models)