@cranglepiano Agreed, both about the chord and about the quality of what follows. The NBS is good enough not to need an announcement.

Vivaldi would give the thumbs-down, purely out of jealousy: Bach improved upon the Italian's original ;-)

​@@paulcaswell2813Haha. No.

I feel the same!

Ja!!!

Why?

Not really. I liked the video, but some people may not like this rendition. You don't need to be a hairdresser in order to dislike a haircut.

I love the piece, I liked the rendition, did not disliked it, but personally I do feel uncomfortable with the lot of high pitch diapason chord progressions (this particular organ I guess)

a live rendition of it

To naysayers, this comment was written half-jokingly, but only half :)

This is Vivaldi though... ;)

@@HenrikBergpianorganist Ok, but Bach practically transforms it.

Etrit absolutely, it’s just endless!

This is NOT Bach per-se, but Bach's bow to Vivaldi! It is not JSB composition, rather a transcript of Antonio Vivaldi's RV208 violin concerto "Il Grosso Mogul". Check it out, e.g: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jKqUe9Z8mt_DdqM.html You're welcome.

There's nothing divine, cosmic or profound about Bach's keyboard arrangements of Italian string concerti or the originals. Keyboard arrangements of Italian concertos were simply popular at that time in Bach's career. His arrangements were either commissioned by his ducal employers or written to expand his repertoire as their court organist. Not to pay homage to or learn from the Italians. This arrangement in particular is a mostly note-for-note transcription of the Vivaldi original.

It's good, as all NSB clips. For my taste a bit dry thou. But check out how Ton Koopman did it on the big Groningen Schnitger organ. Just brilliant and not for a second tedious kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftVojbarsMjNfZc.html

Posiblemente sean seguidores de Stravinsky . Bach sí supo reconocer la genialidad del prete rosso . De aburrido nada . Viva Vivaldi !!

Exactly. There's nothing divine, cosmic or profound about Bach's keyboard arrangements of Italian string concerti or the originals. Keyboard arrangements of Italian concertos were simply popular at that time in Bach's career. His arrangements were either commissioned by his ducal employers or written to expand his repertoire as their court organist.

@@herrickinman9303 These are not simply transcriptions, Bach makes many modifications that makes them superior on organ.

Ennah08 My summary of why Bach transcribed 10 Vivaldi concertos? The influence of Vivaldi on Bach the composer was significant. * Johann Nikolaus Forkel (1749 - 1818) wrote the first biography about Bach published in 1802. Forkel corresponded directly with Bach's sons Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach & Wilhelm Friedemann Bach. One can assume that Forkel received authentic information from the Bach family. - In the biography Forkel wrote: "Joh. Seb. Bach's first attempts at composition were failures... Without any instruction... these are the arts that all beginners have in common. In this way they can only become 'finger-composers'... Bach did not long remain on this path... At that time recently published violin concertos by Vivaldi provided him with just such a lead. He heard them praised as excellent pieces of music so often that he had the happy idea of arranging them all for his keyboard. He studied the treatment of ideas, the relationships of these to each other, the sequences of modulation... The transformation of ideas and passages intended for the violin and not appropriate to the keyboard also taught him to think musically, so that after his studies he no longer needed to rely on his fingers for his ideas, but could already form them from his own imagination." * Forkel is probably referring to Bach's early efforts at composing concertos. With that problem Bach turned to Vivaldi. Why did Bach transcribe 10 Vivaldi concertos? Because there is plenty of Vivaldi's music which brilliantly provides a solid structure between soloist & orchestra. Vivaldi did that in a variety of creative ways which attracted Bach. From studying Vivaldi's music, Bach was led in the right direction to a being a great composer in many different types of compositions. - As for which Bach’s transcriptions of Vivaldi I suggest listening to, (besides this video), I recommend the organ transcriptions (BWV 596 / 593) & his concerto for 4 keyboards.

@@bb1111116 It's true only after Bach studied Vivaldi that he started incorporating harmonic modulations to plan his work, as well as the obvious solo-tutti influence for his works.

@@bb1111116 Thank you!

Just to be correct : MARAVILLOSA musica from Vivaldi , genial ARRANGEMENT from Bach 😊😊 Stay well .

Search for BWV 35, I think you'll love the organ.

Started laughing at your first sentence. At least you realized why, haha.

@@oxoelfoxo From the height of all composers to the tenth root of Bach's talent is quite a jump... The Lutherans and certainly not the Catholics can claim the greater composer.

The BWV number are not in chronological order! These transcriptions were made in about 1713 at Weimar.

​@@spiritualpolitics8205sorry, IF YOU'RE RIGHT all the educated Contemporaries of Bach were DULL AND INCAPABLE of evaluate Music , indeed during his lifetime Bach was mister NOBODY 😢😢😢 on the contrary Vivaldi was famous all over Europe , and was PRINTED by the Best Editors in Amsterdam Paris London 😮😮😮

@mariapiazza-od8ib Lol Bach could step through 12 keys of chromatic counterpoint in 4 voices on multiple subjects before Vivaldi had gotten up out of bed and left the tonic. Comparing Bach with Vivaldi is like comparing the Mandlebrot Set with the graph of a triangle. Popular sentiment is not always a guide to aesthetic greatness. Just listen to the drek popular today.

That's because it's a wind instrument and no stringed instrument. It has pipes, that looks like large flutes to me, and they are. But a window instrument can never imitate a violin perfectly.

This tells you all about them: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_concertos_by_Johann_Sebastian_Bach This concerto was transcribed for the prince, who loved concertos.

solo comp?

scuffed bach competition

Why do you assume a historic Baroque organ would be tuned to A440?

A=466 pitch Shorter pipes are less expensive (Chorton) :D

@@herrickinman9303 some are tuned higher. Hehe, as pointed out by Andrea here, pipes were pricy to have built or purchased, so the shorter they were, the higher the pitch. Some rich people could probablu afford longer pipes, so lower pitch.

@@UlimorUdamenta You seem to be suggesting that if price were no object, they would have tuned Baroque organs to A440. However, A440 tuning was unknown in the Baroque. In the Renaissance and early Baroque, the prevailing tuning of wind instruments was a 1/2 step to a minor 3rd higher than A440. The pitch of Baroque organs (called _organ pitch_ or _choir pitch_ ) is based on Renaissance wind pitch. Even in the late Baroque, when winds were being designed to be played at _chamber pitch_ (A415) or _deep chamber pitch_ (A394), most new organs were still being designed to play at organ pitch. If price were the reason for making the organ pipes short, then why not make them even shorter? Church organs were paid for by the town, not by a rich person. The new organ built in the Weimar ducal court when Bach was the court organist was tuned to organ pitch, even though the ducal treasury could have paid for longer pipes.:)

yes. it´s very non-bach. vivaldi can be very boring. : /

Even the most boring pieces will sound heavenly on this organ!

Bach did not simply make transcriptions for his patrons, he learned a good deal from Vivaldi and other Italian masters. It wasn't until he studied them that he learned to create dramatic openings or to stray away from one key.

The boring original? Seriously? Another fundamentalist 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@@s.l5787 What you are calling a "dramatic opening" is simply a _ritornello._ Before the Italian concerto, Bach and other composers were already creating "dramatic openings" and _modulating_ ("stray away from one key"). Italian concertos were all the rage in Germany at the time Bach and other German composers started integrating elements of the Italian concerto style into their own music.

heyguysinternet yikes, your loss :)

Not the first, but certainly the greatest.

Keyboard arrangements of Italian concertos were popular at the time in Bach's career when he wrote them. This was his Weimar court organist period. His keyboard arrangements were either commissioned by his ducal employers or written to expand his repertoire as their court organist. Not to pay homage to or learn from the Italians.

@@declamatory "Seriously." 😄😄😄

@@herrickinman9303 Lets see, Bach was known for not bowing to the popular tastes of his day and instead chose to stick to outdated styles. It is highly doubtful that he transcribed these works simply because it was a popular style. He must have seen some value in them.

Hello This person turns also the papers. And his job is much more then stop assistent. And I know that after working more than 40years of stopassistent.

Sign of technician rather than an artist. No sense of architecture at all. True artists don't make silly faces: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jKqUe9Z8mt_DdqM.html

Herrick Inman it’s not boring

Peut-être parce qu’il a été composé par Vivaldi! lire le tekst sous la vidéo :)