Bachmann vs. Hornby Trains | What's the Difference?

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Today, a detailed comparison between the two major manufacturers of British model steam trains. Clearly specific models can't be directly compared, so this video represents a general investigation into the typical standards of each manufacturer in terms of detail level, build material, mechanism and price.
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Contents:
0:00 Introduction
0:55 Build Material
3:49 Detail Level
6:57 Mechanism
12:25 Price

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@jeannedarcalterberserker8620
@jeannedarcalterberserker8620 3 жыл бұрын
As a Swiss that mainly grew up with Märklin and got a Hornby starter set just two years ago on a school trip, I'll pick Hornby. They have some very affordable models like the Railroad range that I absolutely love. I find British locomotives so fascinating, mainly because of the different liveries, colours and the individual companies before becoming BR. Bachmann is just too expensive for my tight wallet, but they do make some amazing models. Interesting comparison as always, Sam 👍 ;) Also I decided to join your channel Membership to support your great work
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting - so Hornby looked good compared with Marklin?! I'm surprised and glad to hear it! Yeah, can't condone some of Bachmann's prices :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Kuriboh1008
@Kuriboh1008 3 жыл бұрын
It's weird how Thomas the tank engine can mould you into a model train enthusiast
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha yeah I know right?! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 3 жыл бұрын
The original Thomas show was filmed with model trains, so I'm not surprised that some of us became enthusiasts as a result.
@CR-ng4qe
@CR-ng4qe 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@FalloutAmazing
@FalloutAmazing 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains can we be friends and I'm sorry about earlier?
@jumaclo
@jumaclo 2 жыл бұрын
@@InventorZahran its sad that the thomas i grew up on is now “the original Thomas the train” i feel so old
@robinleach2251
@robinleach2251 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I start to watch one of your videos, my wife shouts 'Hello Sam' from the other room!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha that's awesome - tell her hello back! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@robinleach2251
@robinleach2251 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Done! Cheers, made her day!
@Kuriboh1008
@Kuriboh1008 3 жыл бұрын
Wholesome
@jimcrawford5039
@jimcrawford5039 3 жыл бұрын
So does mine! Lol. Australia.
@jimcrawford5039
@jimcrawford5039 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam. Love your vids! Ex UK. Australia for 55 years.
@RzMK
@RzMK 3 жыл бұрын
I found your channel recently and I truly admire your effort in making these videos :) I'm also a model-railroader and I find all these British locos so different from our continental European ones! Greetings from Poland :)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your kind comment - that's very kind of you! Greetings from the UK! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@basicallystupid7080
@basicallystupid7080 2 жыл бұрын
As a beginner model-er, this will definitely help out as I JUST began to think to make of an railway. Definitely based around the time where steam engines were waay more common than diesels, around when they just began.
@Fatduck-nm3jj
@Fatduck-nm3jj 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I wanted to see since 2017
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Hope you like it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@michaelricks1618
@michaelricks1618 2 жыл бұрын
Really excellent review. Well researched and very thorough. Pointed out many things I was totally unaware of and will be very helpful in making future purchases. The manufacturers could watch and learn a lot her - and I hope they do! Thanks a lot for sharing.
@Fabian06
@Fabian06 3 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful! Im planning to start making custom model engines and a model railway myself! This is very helpful, Thanks Sam!
@davidrees3625
@davidrees3625 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative Sam. Keep up the good work. I enjoy your reviews!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot David! :D
@CymruJedi
@CymruJedi 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great comparison video, good job man
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@alanriley9754
@alanriley9754 3 жыл бұрын
Am delighted to have found your channel Sam. Your commentary is thorough and educational. Thanks.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Alan, that's really lovely to hear! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@1maico1
@1maico1 3 жыл бұрын
One of Sam's best videos. Lots of info packed into it and footage of loco innards rather than the carpet or slippers :-)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, haha! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@petermurry4816
@petermurry4816 2 жыл бұрын
Great site Sam, I'm 77 & used to have model trains years ago. So what I wold like to ask you is for complete run down on the best loco for each class related to my time train spotting days at Bournemouth in I think it was 1960 I think ?? & I decided to change to aviation (where I have been lucky to work within most of my career) A GREAT site Sam & only recently found it.
@peteryoung4957
@peteryoung4957 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video Sam. I think if, I was modelling 00 (I have N gauge) I'd go for Hornby. I hope the manufactures watch your reviews.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Peter! I think I'd choose Hornby too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 2 жыл бұрын
An old comment, but I'll add that I'd also buy Hornby: simply because it's English. I'm not nationalistic, but do believe in encouraging local quality manufacturers... ... also I started with Hornby when I was very young in the 1970s and enjoyed them very much.
@peterdriffill7950
@peterdriffill7950 3 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos! Would be great to see a similar video looking at the other manufacturers!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Peter - I may try that one day! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@hythekent
@hythekent 3 жыл бұрын
One of your best comparisons Sam,. Very useful indeed. Thanks
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate, appreciate it! :D
@masterofsouthern5427
@masterofsouthern5427 3 жыл бұрын
Also at least Hornby understands their audience by Doing a Railroad range and premium one so customers can experience a good range of products without paying a fortune 🙂🙂
@dafyddthomas7299
@dafyddthomas7299 3 жыл бұрын
agree but still an expensive pastime.
@graham2sexy955
@graham2sexy955 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the rubbish in the railroad range has crept over a hundred pounds....
@thejohnler8358
@thejohnler8358 3 жыл бұрын
@@123CrazyChazy Some Railroad models nowadays are almost as expensive as the preimium models were when the brand was launched
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree with the Railroad range in principle.... and I don't even mind that they're often based on really old models! But their intention to attract beginners or younger modellers fails if they're too expensive... which now they're starting to be :/ Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@paulcaswell2813
@paulcaswell2813 3 жыл бұрын
@@123CrazyChazy Inflation has been awful. I bought the Bachmann A1 on launch at £115. Ten years on it nudging £200...
@davidstrains4910
@davidstrains4910 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Sam if I’m honest I would say that all models that are made are great
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! I wish I could say the same - I'd say *most* models that are made are great! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@shmunggus
@shmunggus 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@DoubleDeckerDave
@DoubleDeckerDave 3 жыл бұрын
Sam'sTrains Yeah, with stuff like the Tango you can't say they're all winners!
@mistermadmachine6311
@mistermadmachine6311 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@dannywest7587
@dannywest7587 2 жыл бұрын
There's complaints about plastic bottles in our oceans,I wonder how many plastic trains end up in our Oceans?
@FlyingScotFilms
@FlyingScotFilms 3 жыл бұрын
12:48 That’s the best tender engine I’ve ever seen 😂 Great review sam!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I know - my bad!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@2010ditta
@2010ditta 3 жыл бұрын
That was well put together Sam..nice one. I enjoyed that.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Tim! :D
@jaybee1921
@jaybee1921 3 жыл бұрын
Another profesional informative video from young Sam, well done! The price comparison is quite fluid between the two but I think that part of that pricing structure includes shipping costs from Europe and China. Still, with regard to quality and value it's like anything else these days, you get what you pay for.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Jonathan - yes it's fairly fluid! And often you do get what you pay for, but occasionally not always! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@masterofsouthern5427
@masterofsouthern5427 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer Hornby over Bachmann as you can easily replace loco parts for a bargain and The prices of their products are considerably cheaper especially with their mechanism Thanks for this Sam I have been waiting for this 🙂🙂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Very true! They're much more user friendly in that regard - better and cheaper - I like that too! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@cbrooks122000
@cbrooks122000 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried replacing parts on a new Hornby loco? You cannot get the parts, like West Country valve gear, Fowler Tank pickups. It is getting worse. Ok, Bachmann spares might be expensive but at least you can get them.
@robmasterman
@robmasterman 3 жыл бұрын
Sam, you really are the Best thing that's happened in our Hobby for years, your Reviews are second to none, giving so much useful information to help people with future purchases, which at the prices of items these days, is becoming so important. You are unbiased in your views, and I, as one of your thousands of followers, are extremely grateful, for your invaluable help...Keep up the Great work...Bob
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks so much Bob, not sure about that!! So glad you like these videos though, so lovely to hear that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@bikelife_myr7917
@bikelife_myr7917 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, sam great review! lots of people's reviews are biased or not in-depth but u made sure that ur viewers would be satisfied great job!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I do my best to be honest, really glad you notice it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Mewtwo557
@Mewtwo557 3 жыл бұрын
"So if we kick off with an 0-6-0 tender engine..." *shows off tank engine*
@hythekent
@hythekent 3 жыл бұрын
Percyextra / Mewtwo557 For goodness sake, give him a break! How many quality videos have you uploaded?
@Mewtwo557
@Mewtwo557 3 жыл бұрын
Calm down my dude. It's just a joke.
@insomniacbritgaming1632
@insomniacbritgaming1632 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mewtwo557 you can have an 0-6-0 Tank Engine... Actually most tank engines were 0-6-0... Most 0-4-0's had a saddle tank or pannier tank design due to the short nature of the locomotive
@Mewtwo557
@Mewtwo557 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you got the joke.
@insomniacbritgaming1632
@insomniacbritgaming1632 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mewtwo557 I don't think you get the idea of a joke... a joke is required to be funny.
@ChadwickModelRailway
@ChadwickModelRailway 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Sam. Love to see a diesel comparison too including Heljan.
@HarryC_640
@HarryC_640 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Charlie!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Charlie! I'd like to do that too, but I don't own anywhere near as many diesels as I do steam; it probably wouldn't be fair of me to do that until I've sampled a few more! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@davidchiles5331
@davidchiles5331 2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this and really appreciate your videos, thank you.
@Ensign_Redshirt
@Ensign_Redshirt 3 жыл бұрын
This is spot on consumer information, and proof that both companies can produce good products when challenged. Watching and reading reviews of the Bachmann and Heljian (providing you get a later example) narrow gauge engines are good examples of two companies working out of their normal comfort zone. From what I've seen you seem to get very well engineered and well thought out tiny models. Considering how much of a slating Heljian get for build quality it is proof that when they do it right they really do it right.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Les - they certainly can! The narrowgauge engines do look fascinating - I've always wanted to try them, very interesting that Heljan seem to get them right too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@longlivetherailways1571
@longlivetherailways1571 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video Sam! I wonder if you could do something crazy and buy like a Roco or Trix or perhaps a Piko locomotive. It would add some nice variation to your reviews, and I find them quite impressive in terms of performace and detail! Some are quite expensive though.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
I would really like to - I'm really interested to know what they're like! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@edwardlawrence9916
@edwardlawrence9916 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the hornby 08 reminded me, for the love of all things model railways you have to try a hornby 08, they are just amazing! Would love to see a review of that!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha I have heard that - I'm looking out for one! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@paddycoleman1472
@paddycoleman1472 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thanks Sam. The Bachmann mechanism info really surprised me especially given their generally higher.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Paddy - yes it is very unusual isn't it?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@simontaylor9972
@simontaylor9972 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this post. Lots of important info.
@jacobditmars8414
@jacobditmars8414 3 жыл бұрын
Sam you goofed at 12:49 (called a tank engine a tender engine) but apart from that good video.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
I did, haha!! ;D
@moxxierl1809
@moxxierl1809 3 жыл бұрын
Hi sam, Great video! Quick question, do bachmann trains work on hornby DC or DCC controllers? Considering they work on the other track
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Yes they will do! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Im_B0red
@Im_B0red 3 жыл бұрын
Sam did not let quarantine bore him
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! :D
@petergrossett6763
@petergrossett6763 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative, your video's are so useful to reference, before purchasing a model. Thanks very much Sam. You've become an expert!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Peter - that's great to hear! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@petergrossett6763
@petergrossett6763 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains You want to think about producing a DVD, magazine, booklet or a book with your information. You've quite a back catalogue, after all. I watch, because I enjoy,benefit, and learn from watching.
@jonswinfield9336
@jonswinfield9336 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting I remember when Bachmann first came on the scene in this country Everyone raved about them and said ‘ why can’t Hornby be like this?’ It seems as though there’s a complete turn around I heard that both manufacturers are using Chinese factories at one point I believe the same factory This huge discrepancy in price and quality is unbelievable I’m very disappointed to be honest How are most people going to know what they’re getting? Keep making these videos they’re really good 👍😊
@Poliss95
@Poliss95 3 жыл бұрын
You'd think that Bachmann would be cheaper since they own the factories, while Hornby use other people's factories for some models.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is very confusing! Bachmann have tried to explain their pricing by blaming it on changes in China: worker's wage increases, difficulty in finding labour, exchange rates and a decline in demand for model railway merchandise. These explanations *would* hold up if Bachmann were manufactured in China and all other manufacturers were elsewhere. But as other manufactures *in exactly the same boat* have been seen to do much better (not just in terms of price, but also quality), this explanation is inadequate to my mind! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jonswinfield9336
@jonswinfield9336 3 жыл бұрын
Sam'sTrains From what I can see Hornby have worked really hard to become a modern company for this day and age Competitive and good quality Maybe Bachmann uk could learn something here and restore their reputation and boost sales😊
@tornado1986cw
@tornado1986cw 3 жыл бұрын
This I why I stopped collecting model trains, was how expensive they were getting couldn't afford it anymore 😔, still enjoying the vids by the way
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the price is getting to be a problem unfortunately :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@arnolddavies6734
@arnolddavies6734 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the reason I never got into model railways. Way too expensive a hobby these days.
@craigthelej
@craigthelej 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Hornby and Bachmann having a collab. Hornby's quality mechanism with bachmann's beatiful detail
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha yeah it would be very interesting! Though they'd never need to do that - they both have the ability to create superb models without the other's input - it's just persuading them to actually do it! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy 3 жыл бұрын
Better that than the other way around.
@Calvertfilm
@Calvertfilm 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff Sam. Thanks for that.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Laurie, glad you enjoyed it! Stay safe mate, Cheers, Sam :)
@manunderthemask4762
@manunderthemask4762 3 жыл бұрын
The 4F wasn't Dapol, it was Airfix :)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
You're right - spot on! Decades and decades ago xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@duckrails3790
@duckrails3790 3 жыл бұрын
Bachmann: thomas and friends show models Hornby: counter part thomas models
@craigthelej
@craigthelej 3 жыл бұрын
@@123CrazyChazy Bachmann had trash quality compared to hornby tho
@craigthelej
@craigthelej 3 жыл бұрын
@@123CrazyChazy Not gonna lie they both have flaws.
@craigthelej
@craigthelej 3 жыл бұрын
@@123CrazyChazy really? Bachmann always put bad motors in their locos
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Bachmann's were certainly more accurate, but they were much poorer by design (mechanism!!). Some of Hornby's did suffer mazak rot (Bill and ben were big ones), but at least this wasn't by design! Bachmann's have the motor failures *because* the motors can't handle all that friction from the complicated eye mechanisms, crazy number of gears, and lack of bearings in the wheelset! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@dbrhall
@dbrhall 3 жыл бұрын
Hello SAM! Firstly ...great job and thank you for your work for the hobby. Secondly, I would consider interesting mentioning the wheels materials (hornby of late are plastic) as well as the doc interface. Finally, if I may add, you should certainly continue with this series yet, also, I think you ought to visit other brands such as heljan, hattons... Best wishes, D.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this David - yes those would be worth a mention, good idea! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@skalemodelkorner289
@skalemodelkorner289 3 жыл бұрын
Hii Sam! As always, another great video! ;-)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! :D
@gs425
@gs425 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add two points... 1.hornby try to be all things to all men. From cheapo train set locos right up to amazing top detailed stuff . And yes I agree it's not always made clear what market each loco is aimed at. 2. Bachmann diesels are great, but so many of their steam locos woddle down the track like an angry duck!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yes two very good points - Bachmann's diesels are another kettle of fish altogether, if I had more diesels, I'd be in a position to do this video for diesels too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@michaeldavies9600
@michaeldavies9600 3 жыл бұрын
Im bit of a tightwad as well so another reason i only buy from the bargain basement and Bachmann seem to be always out of my price range!
@gs425
@gs425 3 жыл бұрын
@Baz Bazdad hi Baz. Yes I owned a gs425 for a total of 18 years. I say total because 5 years after I sold it , I bought it back. Wish I still had it . The perfect all rounder. Most modern bikes are either too big or too small.
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently Bachmann is completely different in the UK, here in the states the are the cheaper option, and aren't that reliable, or good pullers, or well detailed. Just kinda MEH here in the states, but the prices don't mirror that, a Spectrum DCC 4-8-4, be it a Daylight, or a N&W J-Class. Are around $300 plus if you can't find them on sale.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
They're exactly the same in the UK, they're just not the cheaper option, everything else is accurate! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@paulmcmahon1129
@paulmcmahon1129 2 жыл бұрын
We might finally see some quality in the UK when Rapido get established here?
@stepheng7586
@stepheng7586 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual Sam!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! :D
@neilviney1889
@neilviney1889 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. loving your work. Just an observation - Whenever I've heard you say that a certain loco is a bit noisy, when running, it's usually a Bachmann. keep up the great work.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Neil, you're right actually - very true! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@pirozcontractor6006
@pirozcontractor6006 3 жыл бұрын
The way I see it: Hornby- Better with steam locomotives Bachmann - Kings of the diesel, electric and DMU segments EMU's - No way to tell However, the lack of spare valve gear for certain Hornby locos like the rebuilt Merchant Navy is a massive turnoff.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true - Bachmann's diesels are epic, probably better than Hornby's (the ones I've had) Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@BritanniaPacific
@BritanniaPacific 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s an aspect you left out: who sells out quickest? My vote’s for Hornby.
@craigthelej
@craigthelej 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good thing and a bad thing lmao
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
I have no way of knowing that unfortunately, and it's more complicated than that - it depends on production capacity, price, who's stocking them etc... hard to draw a conclusion from! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@stevieh7292
@stevieh7292 3 жыл бұрын
Very fair comparison, Sam. Top work!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Stevie! :D
@matthewbannister5951
@matthewbannister5951 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea for content, more please!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Matthew! :D
@britanniaolivercromwell5006
@britanniaolivercromwell5006 3 жыл бұрын
I like how bachmann doesn’t include tender pick ups and when they do,they have the effectiveness of someone hitting you with a wet noodle
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha, basically accurate! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy 3 жыл бұрын
My Hornby P2 doesn't have tender pickups (must be the cheap version) so I'm going to fit some myself.
@infinitethenextkazekage392
@infinitethenextkazekage392 3 жыл бұрын
They have 1 similarity *mmmmmmmmmmmm yees t R a I n*
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha! xD
@captbumbler5356
@captbumbler5356 2 жыл бұрын
I found this very interesting , I have some very old Tri-ang railway stuff in my loft some of it has grey track with 3 lines. I also have the O gauge Stephensons Rocket "real steam" train and track plus extra track only ever run once and then put in loft.
@Damocles178
@Damocles178 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative; really enjoyed this. I think doing a Diesel Hornby vs Bachmann video would be a splendid idea especially when Bachmann has certainly tackled Diesels Hornby hasn't such as the Peaks. I actually am genuinely intrigued with the difference between the 08's too. I know Hornby's Class 08 did have some rather nice but unexpected surprises such as opening doors. No doubt when it comes to choosing between both ranges one may just offer a class of loco that the other doesn't or they simply have a better version.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Great idea - if I had more diesels, I could totally do that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@squish8785
@squish8785 3 жыл бұрын
wow i like this now im thinking of getting both my first sets from both hornby and bachman thanks
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh nice - choose wisely!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@RightAwayProductions005
@RightAwayProductions005 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail takes me back but i can’t put my finger on it😂 Neverthenonetheless, great vid Sam!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha! Thanks mate! :D
@littlewesternbranchline852
@littlewesternbranchline852 3 жыл бұрын
There was this guy 6 years ago who made thomas bachmann vs hornby videos called simon ac martin
@RightAwayProductions005
@RightAwayProductions005 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlewesternbranchline852 YES!! It was that!!
@Meddled
@Meddled 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a model railway, I'm more into the prototypes. What I like about this channel is how clearly you speak. It seems quite rare to encounter a KZfaqr who knows how a sentence is going to finish from the start. No 'I'm' or starting each new thought with 'so...'.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha that's very kind of you - thanks so much! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Meddled
@Meddled 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains no worries! When I have a layout in a year's time I know who to blame!
@liamcalder1385
@liamcalder1385 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. I have been a supporter of Hornby since i first started in model railways but i have bought a few Bachmann locos such as the Crab and the 43xx and i really like them. the detail is good and the running is great but deep down im still a hornby fan. Thanks Liam
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Liam! Yeah I like their Crabs too actually, always liked mine! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@alanwillson9583
@alanwillson9583 2 жыл бұрын
A very informative video Sam, TY. Would love to see the rumoured diesel variant . :)
@vintagetraincollection8910
@vintagetraincollection8910 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting Stuff. Thanks for sharing.
@Themodelrailer
@Themodelrailer 3 жыл бұрын
I had my first loco at 7 now 35 :-( and my intercity 225 runs like a dream with the original ringfield and thanks to your servicing videos just as good and quiet as new out the box so always a hornby fan and whenever i search for a loco always look at hornby products first something just seems that bit extra nothing against the other brands but they always feel a bit more especially with the name and legacy also having relatives who lived in hornbys home helps too 😂😂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing Kevin, so glad to hear that your old classics are running well again! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@LHoriginal
@LHoriginal 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one! I like both, but I usually stay with Hornby because I use rail master
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Good call! Railmaster is pretty decent! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Fred-sr5lg
@Fred-sr5lg 3 жыл бұрын
Cool comparing video sam keep it up
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!! :D
@markdunwell3288
@markdunwell3288 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Sam. A fascinating video. Very informative. I like Bachmann but love Hornby.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mark, really appreciate that! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@mylesfairhurst9481
@mylesfairhurst9481 3 жыл бұрын
Hi again great video you are doing a good job
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Myles! :D
@Pennington_TMD
@Pennington_TMD 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Sam , please can you do a video on the diesels too ? Thanks!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
If I get more diesels, then sure!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jimross623
@jimross623 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, Thanks for this comparison video. It’s very useful. Now I’ll have to watch all your videos to see if the models are any good! Oh, I see what you did there! 8-) Regards, Jim
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Really glad to hear that Jim, really glad this helps!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@colwichjunction3366
@colwichjunction3366 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Sam. I wish I’d known some of that information earlier . When I switched from N to OO a couple of years back, I was of the impression that Bachmann were superior to Hornby.🤔 I only have one steam loco, which is a Bachmann Tornado a lovely model, but the lack of tender pickups is frankly quite shocking⚡️I’ve since added some & she runs really well. Thankfully she was a secondhand buy so I can’t moan too much.... Keep up the good work, I enjoyed the Schools class double tender monster vid too👍👍👍😄 Cheers & stay safe John B 😷
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh no problem John - I have heard that their N gauge is much better though - how have you found it? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@stephenrussell-clark8329
@stephenrussell-clark8329 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Sam. Generally a great summary. Very surprised you don't have a Hornby 08 diesel shunter. They are fabulous. Great low gearing and will pull anything. Treat yourself!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much - yeah I probably should fix that one day, I've heard they are good! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@michaeldavies9600
@michaeldavies9600 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always and a interesting one at that.I think id rather have an engine that worked better and lasted longer,than one that looked better and had more detail.I dont have any Bachmann engines mine are all Hornby and one Oxford Rail Janus Shunter that was bought in a Hattons bundle with three wagons.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael - I think I'd rather that too! Hornby do run better than Bachmann these days, no doubt in my mind! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Redjintyman
@Redjintyman 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome content!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
@QuakMans
@QuakMans 3 жыл бұрын
This year I got a real good price on a Bachman train set, online it’s around 350, I got it in a store for 160! [ it was an HO scale ]
@ronphillips3339
@ronphillips3339 3 жыл бұрын
very informative review, Room for thought before purchasing chosen loco.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron, glad you thought so! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@chrisnewbold7639
@chrisnewbold7639 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice il go for the Hornby one .
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris - good luck! :D
@coloursmoke
@coloursmoke 3 жыл бұрын
9:12 Track record! :D 3:59 great! good to see the internal details!? or the plastic moulding details. ;-)
@taylorshaw8000
@taylorshaw8000 3 жыл бұрын
This is very good information for anyone who wants to join the model train hobby.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Taylor, really glad you think so! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. One gripe I have about Bachmann is that their interior lights (cab lights, EMU and railcar interior lights) are always light orange LED's and I've had to go around and substitute the ones on my Bachmann stuff with warm white LED's instead.
@RBXTrains
@RBXTrains 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's the case on the more modern stock, the class 350 is spot on.
@xd_moka9396
@xd_moka9396 3 жыл бұрын
really good video mate i really want to see more of this difference videos soon-100k
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! And I know - almost 10k away!! D: Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@xd_moka9396
@xd_moka9396 3 жыл бұрын
i really hope that you someday that you would do a rewiev on bachman polar express that would be really nice to se
@chaz4512
@chaz4512 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam,you are awesome,I love the channel
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Chaz! :D
@railwayjade
@railwayjade 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! ‘Track Record’ 😜 Awesome video Sam
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Aaayy!! Didn't even mean to make that one! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@michaelaldred6529
@michaelaldred6529 3 жыл бұрын
A very good statement on the differences between the two manufactures would be interesting to know on how the two compare on Train packs or sets.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Michael! That's a great thought too! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@barleyarrish
@barleyarrish 3 жыл бұрын
Investigative journalism at it's best!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
haha it's far too generous to call this investigative journalism, but thank you very much! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Rog250
@Rog250 Жыл бұрын
Great video Sam very on the ball with the key differences. One aspect I was surprised you didnt mention because you often do in reviews of individual locos (eg the Bachmann V2) are the loco-tender connections. On balance is Bachmann or Hornby better (ie easier to connect/disconnect etc) in your view?
@clapz9068
@clapz9068 3 жыл бұрын
Great video very interesting
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
@StevenGarcia118
@StevenGarcia118 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to get some HO/OO scale locos, and this helps a lot to see what's the difference between Hornby and Bachmann. But if I were to ask you Sam, which one do you prefer the most? Because I would love to know if you prefer Hornby over Bachmann or the vice versa? Also, if I were to get started with a HO scale set, which one do you recommend anyone to get from each company?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Steven, hope you can get some! I care more for mechanism than I do appearance, so I've generally lean towards Hornby, but that changes from model to model! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@bombituico
@bombituico 3 жыл бұрын
A really like seeing these types of videos Have a good one Sam!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! You have a good one too! :D
@SheffieldNo14Productions
@SheffieldNo14Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Based on the Thomas range... I’ve noticed that Bachmann is more accurate than powerful such as with the Gordon model. The Gordon of Bachmann’s detail is superb, as compared to the Hornby model which is oversized and with a lot of the proportions wrong. However due to the larger tender, the Hornby Gordon is able to house the motor in its tender and that gives it more power and more tractive force with less effort. The way I understand it with my minimal knowledge of physics is that with the Bachmann model, the engine has the motor and the pulling power is all at the front, meaning the load at the back is heavier. With the Hornby model the tender pushes the locomotive instead of the loco pulling it. So the weight at the back is decreased while the weight at the front is increased. This is better because it is easier to push something rather than to pull it. So the Hornby models are stronger. Also I think the Bachmann model has a tiny motor crammed into the engine which is less powerful than the bigger Hornby motor in the big tender. So if you’re looking for durability and power, then the Hornby models are the ones for you. If you’re more of a serious collector or somebody who wants accuracy over power such as a filmmaker or someone, then the Bachmann models are the ones for you. These are just my thoughts.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true - more accurate than mechanically sound even, agreed 100%! Thanks for sharing - cool stuff! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@AustralianRailwayVideos
@AustralianRailwayVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, when im older i wanna start an english model railway but the Class V2 is only Bachmann and the West Country is only hornby Edit: i have the mallard and flying scotsman that i got ages ago but they both have small issues, and the mallard doesnt run properly anymore :/ only fully functioning train i have is an SDJR Tank engine no. 24
@pettra1
@pettra1 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the prices you quoted were different to those shown on the screen, I noted. Maybe there have been updates since? If I had to choose between the two, I think Hornby would get the nod really. Better mechanisms including far greater use of 5 pole motors swings it for me. Oh, and price is a significant factor, especially these days when people's livelihoods are in the balance due to Covid-19.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, one of Bachmann's was higher than I quoted; I quoted a previous price tag, which has now been increased according to their website... we have seen big increases in price over recent years! I'd agree - can't say enough about good mechanisms! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jacobharrison2204
@jacobharrison2204 3 жыл бұрын
Man i like this kind of review can you do more viedos like this
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Sure I could try to do more! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@chaz4512
@chaz4512 3 жыл бұрын
Also, great video,as usual!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Chaz! :D
@kilertheeclass5510
@kilertheeclass5510 3 жыл бұрын
Jolly good video sam
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
@jamesdunloptrains
@jamesdunloptrains 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video today Sam I got a hornby turntable today I was wondering how do I get it to work any advice
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
OH god - good luck mate - mine was a nuisance! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@alexpaumen3937
@alexpaumen3937 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so used to the British Railway Stories and I think another one of those W.P. Allen models is used but with a face.
@johnphillips3943
@johnphillips3943 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. I own 2 Hornby super detailed 08's. Both are superb models, very well detailed (on a par with my Dapol O gauge 08's) and run extremely well. They cope very well with points and their slow speed is faultless which makes them perfect for shunting my lay out. They are better than the Bachman versions in both of these departments and I can highly recommend them.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for sharing John - I really must try a Hornby one! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@HarryC_640
@HarryC_640 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Sam! That was a very interesting comparison! Dare I ask it, but who do you prefer!?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! It varies between the different models, but overall I'd say Hornby for me! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@andrewbrown-allan8172
@andrewbrown-allan8172 3 жыл бұрын
💓
@harrythegamingboi7974
@harrythegamingboi7974 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid sam!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
@dafyddthomas7299
@dafyddthomas7299 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and good comparisons, another plus for Bachman is that you can get their new products from Rails without issue but I cannot get any new Hornby products (2020+ onwards) from Rails (with their possible fallout between both parties ). A minus for both is that their new releases are costing more and more money every year pricing potential buyers out of the market / hobby.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's very true - and I agree on prices, pity about that :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
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