Thank you for inspiration! Besides the PET Robots, some of your PET related videos were the driving factor, for one, the acrylic case one just popped out when I was deciding which platform to pick this time.
@katsumikougen8351 Жыл бұрын
So are your works, David
@JimLeonard Жыл бұрын
This is f****** brilliant, Alex. I can see every trick you are using, but I'm still blown away because your thorough artistic understanding of the character set and your other creative sensibilities really shine through here. I have a few technical questions which I'll contact you privately about :-)
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! I believe the work on the Area 5150 had an effect on me, I learned some stuff here and there just by visually analyzing the thing, and it taught me to work on OST of a great length in the fastest pace possible. I had just three days to compose the music from start to finish in this one, and the first two days I didn't even believe I can possibly do it - but knowing that I actually did it with the larger 5150's OST earlier this year helped me a lot to not give up.
@JimLeonard Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit The whole production has a polish representative of many weeks of work. Excellent job!
@TransistorizedCharlie8 ай бұрын
3:36 WHOA WHOA I DIDN'T EXPECT SPEECH SYNTHESIS
@speggiman27 күн бұрын
3:37 That final speech synthesis stab at the Amiga retrocomputing sub-fandom, fucking sweet. Epic well-known modern-day PET demo, the pseudo-3D effects too.
@TastyBusiness Жыл бұрын
I didn't think a PET could do something like that. That's some mighty impressive work!
@CerealNumberWDW198411 ай бұрын
There is also bitmap graphics illusions, when in fact the PET uses a text display. (or should I say "Petscii" display)
@KC9UDX8 ай бұрын
I knew it could but didn't know anybody would
@willywre2251 Жыл бұрын
Working great on my 2001-32B! Gives the old CRT more of a workout than it's ever had, I think. Awesome stuff!
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
I recently showcased it on my PET 2001-N and used the Stupid PET Tricks module to get the CB2 sound. I love this demo.
@colintroy38314 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'm an Atari 8-bit nerd that glorifies in its superior colour palette to other 8-bit computers, and I have just seen the best 8-bit demo ever created! And the SINGLE track tune! Beautiful! 😍
@SoyLuciano Жыл бұрын
That's impressive for PETSCII standards! I love the demoscene!
@gklinger Жыл бұрын
We hvae a new champion for a PET demo. Very well put together indeed.
@contra_banda Жыл бұрын
Shiru, jesteś mistrzem!
@Orzeczenie.10 ай бұрын
Zgadzam się
@andrewmjenner Жыл бұрын
Stunning production! I know that machine (and in particular its character set) well, having borrowed one from my primary school for a while. I wrote a horrifically slow BASIC program to draw lines in 80x50 "mode" so I know just what an achievement this is. Thanks for the greetz as well!
@Akira625 Жыл бұрын
Until last year, I knew nothing about the Commodore PET. Now, I have great respect for it and understand its place in computer history. I’m also impressed with what can be done with a 45-year-old machine with no graphics capabilities, and what sort of clever tricks can be performed with just text and PETSCII characters.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Actually I myself got into PET just recently, a couple years back. It is a very rare machine in my country, and Commodore stuff isn't any common here either (maybe a little bit of Amiga). Very interesting piece of computer history.
@MICROBYTESIO7 ай бұрын
To be fair, the machine (all pets) did have a pretty large graphics set for its 1977 (pet 2001) release. Wonder if this affected the market since its main competitors (apple ii & trs-80) did not have any graphics.
@BoneSkull9411 ай бұрын
I am amazed! even for PET's technical limitations still looks amazing.
@k-storm Жыл бұрын
Just wow. One of best prod this year.
@ChopperApache202419 күн бұрын
BACK TO THE PET P: PERSONAL E: ELECTRONIC T: TRANSACTOR
@ashtonsretrocomputerroom Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing! I get goosebumps running it, 😅 so good. Thank you for creating this masterpiece!
@blueelectric05 Жыл бұрын
This is incredible, we need more PET demos!
@ruikaj6350 Жыл бұрын
This piece is fantastic!! For a moment I forget that this is a textmode. Knowing this kind of expression drawer, I see great potential to enjoy its usefulness in many kinds of Oldskool Pixelart. Thanks for the super cool video! (Sorry for poor translated English)
@YesterchipsMIG Жыл бұрын
Thats too cool! I need that on my PET in the Yesterchips-Museum... wow ^^ GREAT WORK!
@YesterchipsMIG Жыл бұрын
It works on my PET 2001! Museum-visitors are very happy :) But... is there a possibility to bring this Demo in a permanent loop? Currently it runs once an then stops with the "END" screen... no restart or reset available. I would LOVE to let it run again and again.
@svofski Жыл бұрын
proud to have my humble attempts ripped by this masterpiece. amazing demo!
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Beware, it might be a Vector 06C demo next time!
@svofski Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit that would be fantastic!
@toddchamberlain6507 Жыл бұрын
That's pretty spectacular. On a 4032 (a computer from 1977!!) that's amazing work.
@timbly-wx2ft4 ай бұрын
Trippy! From the author of PET Tetris (2010), good job guys, glad to see the platform still getting some love.
@otter-pro Жыл бұрын
Somebody, get this man a working commodore PET machine. It looks amazing.
@widicamdotnet Жыл бұрын
Came here from @artech7099 's 4032 hardware video - it does the demo a lot more justice with the long persistence phosphors. Love the embossing effects, and that it's all done with "legal" methods *, i.e. clever use of the character set :) (* as opposed to fighting with the CRT timing, not sure if you can even do that on PETs)
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Late October a demo called Transactor has been also released. It uses an absolutely bizzare trick with displaying pixels during horizontal retrace on the PET, which gives more shades of green and creates a scaled/warped backdrop to the main picture. So weird tricks are totally doable in the PET realm. I just had to stick to a more reliable stuff, as current PET emulators aren't that great yet (but getting better).
@widicamdotnet Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit Thanks, found it - that is a very trippy effect indeed, but borders on looking like a malfunctioning CRT. Yours is easier on the eyes (and ears) ;)
Жыл бұрын
Impressive! Thanks for the source!
@CerealNumberWDW198411 ай бұрын
Goes just to show what the Commodore PET 4032 can really do. AMAZING
@mwienzek2 ай бұрын
Thank you - this is frickin' awesome! I am currently rediscovering my C64. Maybe I should take some steps back and discover the PET.
@BlueCardinal33 Жыл бұрын
ive seen other pet demos but this one wins by far for cleanliness and creativity. continue to be a legend shiru!
@OooSLAJEREKooO Жыл бұрын
That is a really huge achievement! Contgrats!
@Renville80 Жыл бұрын
As someone whose earliest experiences with computers involved the PET, I am properly mind blown by the mastery of PETSCII in this demo. Well done!
@sergioelisondo Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was wild! Such stunning visuals and awesome sounds - so damn cool :) Love your work man!
@FoxBlocksHere Жыл бұрын
That was amazing! I'm glad the art of the demo is still alive and well!
@geekwithsocialskills Жыл бұрын
Very nice and amazing demo! Thank you for creating it and sharing your files. Remember, only the Commodore PET makes it possible 🙂
@voidstar1337 Жыл бұрын
That voice before the "end" - ha! I'll run it on a physical stock 4032 this weekend, see if it blows up. Maybe I'll try load it from a tape too! // If you want to go even deeper, check out the IBM 5110 (assembler is now available as of yesterday!) -- it has a memory mapped screen and beeper just like the PET (and can go 64K), I think a demoscene will be possible for it now (the emulator is a little rough, I'm dusting it off now to play binaries more seamlessly). (nope, not the 5150 -- I mean the older '75-'78 system). Kudos to this demo here - fitting in a 29K PRG is amazing!
@Nbrother16079 ай бұрын
'Only Commodore PET makes it possible' Now I get the reference 'Only Amiga makes it possible'
@flottenheimer Жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful, stylish piece of work. Bravo, Shiru8bit! 🔥 You just gained a new subscriber : )
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MattKasdorf Жыл бұрын
Wow! And many thanks for providing the source to learn from.
@davegreenlaw5654 Жыл бұрын
Back at the end of the 70's I was teaching others how to program BASIC on the PET 8K machines - the ones that I claim had Chicklets for a keyboard - but never knew what it might stand for until today. Personal Electronic Transactor, which makes perfect sense now.
@voidstar1337 Жыл бұрын
Those original 2001-N models (chicklet keyboard) - Chuck himself talks about this, they just made up a meaning, while also playing to the "PET rock" theme popular in the late 1970s. As for the keyboard, they felt only math-folks would be interested in the thing (people who used calculators a lot) so from that perspective, the chicklet made sense (engineers, accountants) as a huge calculator-transaction "thing". Plus, with only 4K RAM (in that first year) you're not doing too much with it anyway. But after 8K upgrades, then useful stuff can start to get done.
@davegreenlaw5654 Жыл бұрын
@@voidstar1337 Agreed. I think my middle school's computer club had to wait for the 16 or 32K machines before putting together their Star Trek combat simulator.
@voidstar1337 Жыл бұрын
@@davegreenlaw5654 Yea, a small terminal program might fit in 4K, that's about it. A picture on the 40x25 screen is already taking 1K. It wasn't until after I made DestinyHunter for the PET till I realized why those old games don't have built in instructions -- there just wasn't memory for it, and loading in more content from the tape wasn't reliable. And RAM chips were expensive since finding quality/reliable ones was difficult (between '76 and '79) .
@BreadboxBitfall Жыл бұрын
Beautiful! This also shows how much potential there is in PETSCII, if you have the skills.
@tohuvabohugbanshee39625 ай бұрын
This belongs to an art gallery as an exhibition, for real.
@ChopperApache20244 ай бұрын
Holy s*** amazing work! 🎉🎉🎉
@adojck8 ай бұрын
Wow this is amazing! Presentation is really good!
@ecernosoft3096 Жыл бұрын
I am blown away. TAKE THAT, APPLE 2!!!! Just… stunning work.
@dvuemedia Жыл бұрын
Excellent demo! I have been watching Demos since early 1990s, on C64 and then Amiga. This Demo is so far one of the best I have seen, AND it's on the PET!
@johndunlap1143 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning work!
@karakenio Жыл бұрын
Rad, as usual, legend. I'm getting some Battletoads vibes from the soundtrack.
@AiOinc12 ай бұрын
Absolutely unbelievable work
@johnsmith1953x Жыл бұрын
*I can almost see color!* Oh wait, that's just some blood vessels bursting in my eye from seeing this....
@johnpenner5182 Жыл бұрын
that is truly impressive given the 8bit limitations of the PET - really pulling all the tricks, using characters graphics to give variation in the display. verrry nice demo of what is possible. thxu for creating this.
@Jones51217 ай бұрын
love the part where it shows its own audio waveform👌
@WinrichNaujoks Жыл бұрын
Insanely great! It could have gone on forever!
@cafedemoparty Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@Veselin_Angelov Жыл бұрын
Antique computers never seize to amaze! I never even expected the PET to be capable of that kind of animation! It puts modern systems to shame! The random maze tribute was, for me, the funniest part of the video. It was great to see the BASIC one-liner "subverted!" I really want to ask for the screen codes of the third maze variant! What are they?
@sandorhard Жыл бұрын
OMG, every frame of this is amazing! 😮👏
@Nicontrast Жыл бұрын
Mind. Blown. Incredible, and very much enjoyed. Thank you!
@LockFarm Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Visuals are perfect.
@makipri Жыл бұрын
Cheers for releasing the source code with the really splendid demo! I should release mine some day as well. And it's always nice to see so many new people doing demos for CBM PET! I hope they'd create a platform for them on Pouet some day.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Actually they did it just recently, PET platform finally has been added to the Pouet's platform list.
@FredericBezies Жыл бұрын
I'm speechless. This demo is awesome on the good old Pet4032. By the way, I ran it with Vice component xpet without troubles.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Is the CB2 sound emulation in the VICE fixed by now? It was horribly filtered out in past versions, up to the point of some frequencies/notes getting muted altogether.
@FredericBezies Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit It was fixed during vice 3.6 development. It is working great now.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
@@FredericBezies thanks for the info, good to know!
@8_Bit Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Looks and sounds great, and really plays to the PET's strengths. Works almost perfectly on my real "NTSC" PET 4032. A bit of tearing/glitching during some of the scrolling, like when the big BACK TO THE PET logo slides on. I think it might have dropped a couple frames there and maybe stuttered on the audio. By the way, I had helped with testing some of the first PET demos like Hardcore Petting by Shadow/Noice from June 2010, and I think I coded the first PET text smooth scroller in April 2010. Great to see more PET demos.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Yeah, some unfortunate tearing is left there as a compromise, because it wouldn't run as smooth if the tearing is avoided. And there are places it needs to be optimized a bit more, title screen scroll stutters a bit because of the extra CPU load from the music - had no time to fix it before the party.
@8_Bit Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit Cool, I only brought it up because I didn't notice it in this capture but upon rewatching, it's slightly noticeable. Anyway, awesome work, congrats on the great release!
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
@@8_Bit by some reason, tearing is way less noticeable in MAME, It shows up better in VICE, though.
@atarimex2643 Жыл бұрын
@@8_Bit Hi Robin, I tried to run this amazing DEMO on a C64 with the PET one line emulator from your episode. I couldn't make it work. Then, Shiru8bit suggested the PET emulator (by İlker Fıçıcılar). I tried it, loads fine, then freezes after the run command.. no joy!. I was hoping you could provide me with any pointers. I am loading following the instructions using "",8,1, etc. Other smaller programs worked fine on the PET emulator. thanks for your help, like your channel! This was requested by some friends from Argentina, Peru, Mexico and Spain that loved this DEMO running on my 8032...thanks! Al.
@8_Bit Жыл бұрын
@@atarimex2643 Unfortunately I don't think this demo can run as is on the PET emulator on the C64. For sure the audio won't work, and probably other parts of the code won't work. The C64 PET emulators unfortunately don't have full compatibility especially with programs that really push the PET this hard.
@rotordave81 Жыл бұрын
Liked the 10 PRINT bit, that will please Robin
@michaelneubert11 Жыл бұрын
incredibly impressive. absolutely great!
@tronix286 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as allways! ::up:
@RichardDavey Жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning! Superb work :)
@breakallthethings Жыл бұрын
This is phenomenal. Thank you.
@Dirty_Bits Жыл бұрын
Absolutely astounding!
@matty65988 ай бұрын
Amazing demo
@XYZB0RG6 ай бұрын
it is unfair how damn cool this is I'm a sucker for black and green
@bafo117 Жыл бұрын
this is art
@roshwyinstaicoon259311 ай бұрын
HOW DID THIS GUY MAKE A COMMODORE PET TALK??!?!?
@tatqoo Жыл бұрын
Great demo!
@thinau28245 ай бұрын
Incredible !!!!
@deathybrs Жыл бұрын
This is so cool!
@rafalwronowski1893 Жыл бұрын
Najlepsze demo na peta jakie widzialem
@chriz74 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@julienbraudel7109 Жыл бұрын
Genius. спаси́бо !
@horaciofilippi6800 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!!
@TafferDP Жыл бұрын
музон, особенно начиная с середины, очень классный
@daggycat11 ай бұрын
太牛逼了 即使是今天看依旧很令人惊讶
@digmsymii321 Жыл бұрын
1:17 2:10 I like the shifting-checkered part and the waving part! 2:40 Also the oscilloscope is great! In common, all tricks are nice! And music is not bad for me. Sadly, I'm not familiar with the capabilities of the computer used for the demo.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
This platform only features a 40x25 text mode with a fixed character set, and no sound, with 32K RAM. The sound comes from a serial interface and is generated by the serial interface chip (it allows to pick carrier frequencies with a 8-bit programmable divider).
@digmsymii321 Жыл бұрын
shiru8bit, Interesting technical detail about the sound source. In addition, I've read that the PET's processor has 1 MHz clock.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
@@digmsymii321 yep, 1 MHz only, which makes 60 FPS screen updates quite tricky.
@Gosha1992 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@philippelewis3543 Жыл бұрын
Awesomeness
@RabiesTheBeagle Жыл бұрын
This blows every piece of computing power out of the fuckin water 💧
@garyc3476 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Can you do a version that loops ? Would be an excellent demo of the PETs in our Museum (NWCM Leigh Manchester) if that would be acceptable, and an 80 column version would be epic too :) Incredible job, Just running it now on my 3032, 8032-SK and 8032.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
The demo is not loopable by design, it unpacks and overwrites its parts as it goes in order to fit 32K, so when it reaches the end, there is no preceding scenes in the RAM. It would take quite some work to make it compatible with the 80 column (40 centered on a 80 screen).
@garyc3476 Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit ah well, stunning work.
@UberMan5000 Жыл бұрын
Gawdayum, how does a computer with a monochrome display that can't even technically display graphics do THIS much awesomeness?!
@stgigamovement11 ай бұрын
A lot of it is determining what patterns of characters will make a shape. Stuff like that one famous shadow art animation that gets ported everywhere has been done in such a setup. I've even been doing tools of sorts for making very detailed text art.
9 ай бұрын
Awesome!!!
@ndiscovery Жыл бұрын
Best on PET!
@JosephM101 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing demo, and really shows off what the PET is capable of! So glad the demo scene is still going strong! Just curious, are you using the PET's built-in audio, or are you using a SID chip? Maybe something else?
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
It is the PET's built-in audio. I'm not really fond of the idea of using extra SID chip on platforms other than C64, to be honest, I find exploring actual possibilities of a target platform to be much more interesting.
@Frida_Katarina Жыл бұрын
Love it
@auletes Жыл бұрын
Insane!
@Y2F0 Жыл бұрын
love it !
@inqurity Жыл бұрын
This is great!
@joonasmerinen7567 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@tommykruesofficialАй бұрын
WOW!
@RetroSteamTech Жыл бұрын
This just incredible! If you don't mind I'd like to show this demo running on my CBM 3008 on my channel. Full credit to your good self would of course be given.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
Sure, no problem!
@RetroSteamTech Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit Thank you.
@CodexPermutatio Жыл бұрын
Way more than passable!
@greghammond2309 Жыл бұрын
8bit is still GOD!
@bionicseaserpent Жыл бұрын
i need a MIDI of this. i'm obsessed.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
One of kinda crazy things about this demo is that the music in fact has been composed as MIDI, complete with the chords instead of the chip arps, then it was automatically processed with my tools (PETCB2 VSTi and custom packers) to be used in the actual demo. So here is the source MIDI file, although I'm not sure how useful it can be in this form: shiru.untergrund.net/temp1/petdemo_ost.mid
@bionicseaserpent Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit that blows my mind even more. the MIDI does sound a bit weird at times, i assume that's because of some of the effects used in the Demo. either way i wonder what the Staff at Commodore in 1980 would have said had they seen a PET Kitted out to run this demo run it right infront of their eyes. i'm sure if we were able to handle Time travelling postage, someone would try figuring it out.
@shiru8bit Жыл бұрын
@@bionicseaserpent yeah, that's always a cool thought. And I actually experienced a glimpse of this myself with my tools and sound software, when people created things I've never ever supposed to be possible. I can imagine it would be an order of magnitude of that to the enginners, to any engineers of old hardware exposed to the finest of the demoscene productions created ever since, to that matter.
@bionicseaserpent Жыл бұрын
@@shiru8bit i imagine it would be Completely mind boggling to them because they would never have seen something as Advanced as this, where as nowadays we can just look at it and go "Wow the PET is able to do all this?" and go back to Raytraced games. as then it would be the best thing that they ever saw a Computer do.
@ZXRetroGaming Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@WacKEDmaN Жыл бұрын
Impressive!... but gee my eyes hurt after that! :P
@AlyphRat Жыл бұрын
...and I thought the PET was underpowered graphically