WC3 - [UD] Happy vs Lyn [ORC] - $400 Pa5 Showmatch - 4200 Cup 5

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UD] Happy vs Lyn [ORC]
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Date: May 30th, 2024
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@salarmosavi9189
@salarmosavi9189 Ай бұрын
ok ok . Happy is back with a deep and brutal vengeance . Hoooly Mooly, That was a slaughter.
@user-us8st5xe1r
@user-us8st5xe1r Ай бұрын
Great battle ❤
@LAdS897
@LAdS897 Ай бұрын
HOLY he got stomped, Neo your first words of the video make it even better lmao
@Kovinskii
@Kovinskii Ай бұрын
"It kinda looks, that he cracked the code" aged perfectly
@TheRancord
@TheRancord Ай бұрын
Happys lost temple game was really cool. People complain that happy does the same always. That is what Lynn thought. Wonder what he will think when he sees the whole map is covered in blight in the replay
@timurradman3999
@timurradman3999 29 күн бұрын
Exactly!! It's about how often you you do something different and Happy totally nailed it
@mystiosmystios2534
@mystiosmystios2534 Ай бұрын
Such amazing plays by both players ! I still don't understand how is it possible to save heroes like Happe does ! What a show ! Thanks neo :)
@Seraphimthong
@Seraphimthong Ай бұрын
Viva la the emperor, viva la Happy.
@damirinho
@damirinho Ай бұрын
Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant
@hououinkyouma1488
@hououinkyouma1488 Ай бұрын
Total humiliation
@nurilnuril4372
@nurilnuril4372 Ай бұрын
I'd love to see some showmatches between the casters. Have some pros cast the games. What'd ya'll think?
@treeborne
@treeborne Ай бұрын
What a god! Thanks Neo!
@Back2Warcraft
@Back2Warcraft Ай бұрын
Treeborne also a god! Thank you so much
@tomohnehut5345
@tomohnehut5345 28 күн бұрын
insane games - very nice to see a back and forth also beteen series
@timurradman3999
@timurradman3999 29 күн бұрын
How close the HP of DK and FS at 27:41 just proves how equally good both players are and how balanced the game is Good job
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
reliable solution to the shade - dust, sentries - all are cheaper than shade itself
@leonjuric2486
@leonjuric2486 Ай бұрын
Don't bother explaining it... Ud ImbA HapPy jUsT luCkY noOb AbuSinG broKEn rAcE
@cadukizzi
@cadukizzi Ай бұрын
Too bad it cannot be used against humans. The fact that the cheap gyros see invisible units, inflict splash damage and are fastest than gargs is beyond ridiculous.
@spiritofthegorg6950
@spiritofthegorg6950 Ай бұрын
for the algorithm!!!
@zhiro12
@zhiro12 Ай бұрын
Game 2 was very early resign, he consumed TP and Inv and a Heal scroll in that last fight thats 750 gold in return for the FS kill + some wyverns He could easily turn it around,
@sachinrai6427
@sachinrai6427 Ай бұрын
Hell yeah..!! 💪💪💪 total ownage
@JEWELLMATTHEWMIJARES
@JEWELLMATTHEWMIJARES Ай бұрын
Happy back
@jeffersonamoridarocha1061
@jeffersonamoridarocha1061 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great content.
@skullmanwizard
@skullmanwizard Ай бұрын
Lyn never saw the 2 ninja expos in game 3 😆
@AdoneSound
@AdoneSound Ай бұрын
Sweet would love to see a t1 zigg push
@allydea
@allydea Ай бұрын
Why risk giving up certain victory for a new strat?
@EpicNoob838
@EpicNoob838 Ай бұрын
@@allydea Its not certain lol, happy doesn't have 100% win rate vs lyn you fool, don't be stupid. T1 push with zig actually makes a lot of sense if lyn is skipping barracks and can't make demolishers even if he reach T2. plus pressure could stop beastiaries from even going up, then seal it with a meatwagon or 2.
@cpt.murphy811
@cpt.murphy811 Ай бұрын
annihilation
@gregpeterson3144
@gregpeterson3144 Ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see 1 tournament with off-race only, for each player. No race rotation, random etc - just off-race whole mach.
@RobinVerhaegen
@RobinVerhaegen Ай бұрын
Neo nice comment on 'not neutral happy fanboy' after G2
@beriksultanov8855
@beriksultanov8855 Ай бұрын
Revenge of The Emperor
@4bafiafzil999
@4bafiafzil999 Ай бұрын
I hope to see more mass wyvern fast tech getting punished like in G1 rather than DK+lich+alch in late game. Perhaps the infamous 9 minutes timing against NElf could also be theoretically used against the strat as well
@allydea
@allydea Ай бұрын
I hope to see the matchup getting balanced a bit so that mass wyverns is not the best orc can come up with.
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
@@allydea if fiends got buffed, maybe it allow ud to fight vs air abusers (mass fairies, mass gyros, mass gryphons, mass hawks, mass wyverns)
@allydea
@allydea Ай бұрын
@@nightyonetwothree how are fiends lacking at the moment?
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
@@allydea worst aa both with gargs, thats why other races abuse massair vs ud and to vs other races. 1. Web have too high cd; While other races can just attack ground-to-air, fiends need to wait for cd; 2. web low cast range (400) which forces fiends to move closer than their attack range (550) and forces them to lose position and waste time for movement and not attacks. For example ensnare have 500 cast range. 3. fiends are weakest of t1.5 ranged units stats-wise (dps*ehp). 4. hex+wolves counter them too heavy. Maybe moving destroyer form to t2 would make shift in current meta? (still t2.5+statues first ~t3 instead of t3.5)
@sdamer4609
@sdamer4609 Ай бұрын
1:10:48 this is exactly what I think of current patch. The balance is perfect, just work hard and you're going to be in top-3 whatever race you play. This chase for Happy made some players work as hard as they never had before, this is why Romantic (a very modest HU player just a few years ago) became so good. It's like in that song - you always knew that you'd be the one that work while they all play. THose who play have nothing against top-3 now, because Lyn, Happy and Fortitude are obsessed with the idea of improvement. If wc3 was more popular these days, if Blizzard had not failed with reforged - i'd say we were in golden era of wc3 pro scene right now. Which might end with the upcoming patch though. They want to see patch-elves era once again.
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
wow, what a mindset! It would worked perfectly before nerfing ud and ne to the ground. While Happy hardworking 15+ years 24/7, this guys wait for patches to "hard work" few hours a day to win Happy.
@twassell25
@twassell25 Ай бұрын
You think when the top 2 players have a series resulting in 5-0 when both players were playing well is indication of "great balance"? Okay dude.
@Tiberium9000
@Tiberium9000 Ай бұрын
@@twassell25 someone is unaware that winning and losing also depends on your performance and Lyn played really poorly here, not just imaginary balance issues with UD you always manage to find no matter how hard they get nerfed. Happy haters just overdosing on copium every single time he shows up it seems. Why didn't I see any complains from you guys when Lyn annihilated Happy in the finals? Cope and seethe, buddy, cope and seethe.
@Josh-kq1ri
@Josh-kq1ri Ай бұрын
1:20:39 that dispel!! Lyn just unlucky the spirit wolf is right there, i guess, the dispel accidentalyl dispels the hex as well
@sam750xx7
@sam750xx7 Ай бұрын
Happy would like his finale still by Fortitude against Lyn , he get it !
@allydea
@allydea Ай бұрын
Nerf the wyverns guys, quick!
@davidc3534
@davidc3534 Ай бұрын
Yup, this is why Blizzard should never ever listen to B2W for balance changes. Remo and Neo were shitting on Grubby for saying Wyverns are a tier c/d unit flying xp tomes, while b2w crying that the xp nerf to wyverns was a "terrible change" and it would make Orc OP vs UD, yet we see quite clearly Happy dominating mass air with barely any anti air units at all other than coil nova and alch.
@hehehehehahahaha2025
@hehehehehahahaha2025 Ай бұрын
@@davidc3534 how many UDs do what Happy does? Moreover, Happy got stomped by this same strat just over a week ago. I don't even necessarily disagree with your view on wyvs but pointing to Happy doing X and using it as proof of a unit being weak is a stupid argument.
@sailor-erida8576
@sailor-erida8576 Ай бұрын
@@hehehehehahahaha2025 Lol. Happy for unknown reason was out if his usual shape and played bad. And he crashed that same strat many times before. Focus play this almost a year.
@peterswift7
@peterswift7 19 күн бұрын
Spoiler alert! It appears that it's Lyn's disregard for intelligence units that looses him those battles? It's been a couple of matches where Happy utilized the secret service well - Lyn appears not to have found a solution yet...
@GreatOne_1
@GreatOne_1 Ай бұрын
I remember when I was whining about the shade being so underrated, it seems my rambling has Bourne fruit in 2024, and I was right shade patrol is a thing now 😄
@tejeda7324
@tejeda7324 Ай бұрын
The transition of being on Happys nuts for the past couple of years towards Lyns nuts is amazing
@HuyHoang-gi5fp
@HuyHoang-gi5fp Ай бұрын
That's how i'm happy :))))
@chihwenlee5572
@chihwenlee5572 Ай бұрын
sweet revenge
@user-ep8kx1px1y
@user-ep8kx1px1y Ай бұрын
Happy - king
@mrseanbob
@mrseanbob Ай бұрын
Why do they never pick up tomes?
@undertoner385
@undertoner385 Ай бұрын
Bro ate his Wheaties today
@alexexceptional7588
@alexexceptional7588 Ай бұрын
Brutally
@cadukizzi
@cadukizzi Ай бұрын
Games 3 and 4 Lyn won all major battles, but lost to Happy macro.
@winterfall_0
@winterfall_0 Ай бұрын
Grubby mentioned that there is currently a recency bias with how strong wyverns are, and it is only about time that Happy will solve it. Seems like he wasn't very far from the truth :)
@noxiansummoner1730
@noxiansummoner1730 Ай бұрын
Depends.
@allydea
@allydea Ай бұрын
All gimmicks get solved sooner or later.
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
how can D tier units even get the status of "strong" units? I think Grubby have his own bias towards wyverns being too weak. For sure wyverns aren't strong unit by itself, but combined with t2 no rax tech and no dispel vs hex/wolves and no good antiair - is what makes wyvern rush strong.
@twassell25
@twassell25 Ай бұрын
What do you mean dude? Wyvern are terrible, they're often times up 20+ supply and still get stomped.
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
@@twassell25 did you watch game 3? Wyverns oblitirate gargs, destroyers, fiends and lich. Too easy aclick for orc vs "counter" army. Btw are you liking yourself everytime?
@xytzxytz
@xytzxytz Ай бұрын
Hail to the empror! Happy
@anysnix7545
@anysnix7545 Ай бұрын
Tome: +1 to Algorithm
@joshuablunt-kl8th
@joshuablunt-kl8th Ай бұрын
(Maybe spoiler) Omg wtf lol 😂 some one was not ok with some of the talk that went around lately… I am sure there will be adjustments with the one that lost here…
@erikcarlberg230
@erikcarlberg230 Ай бұрын
What the hell happened?
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
Ghouls vs air
@EricM93
@EricM93 Ай бұрын
@@Biobin123 lmao
@elliott-waves-academy
@elliott-waves-academy Ай бұрын
Wow Happy!!! after Lyn won that tournament he made him look like a beginner and noob!
@Lucas-uo9ml
@Lucas-uo9ml Ай бұрын
UD Broken AF
@user-mi1uo1tf9p
@user-mi1uo1tf9p Ай бұрын
Destroyed!
@yurihung9244
@yurihung9244 Ай бұрын
just feel like because the prize pool is low, lyn is not doing his best at all
@StolenMemes-101
@StolenMemes-101 Ай бұрын
Maybe in the later matches, but the first one two he was really trying
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 Ай бұрын
45:05 red camp gave no item?
@matthewcarpio5061
@matthewcarpio5061 Ай бұрын
It gave the dragonspawn, the overlay doesnt recognize it
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 Ай бұрын
@@matthewcarpio5061 but wait a red drake? cause the ice shard he already had it
@matthewcarpio5061
@matthewcarpio5061 Ай бұрын
He mustve focused the granite golem first. The golem gives item, not the dragon.
@JackSparrow-gn1zn
@JackSparrow-gn1zn Ай бұрын
As your average happy fanboy I love big stomps and cannot lie
@ronniegirardot9613
@ronniegirardot9613 Ай бұрын
Oh man, 1:43 minutes of Happy v Lynn! This is gonna be good
@twassell25
@twassell25 Ай бұрын
Unfortunate
@user-fn6di3ue8g
@user-fn6di3ue8g Ай бұрын
why did you anger the Emperor?🤬
@elikorn8777
@elikorn8777 Ай бұрын
What about Frost wyrms
@elikorn8777
@elikorn8777 Ай бұрын
Armour even. Frost armour on your gargs
@thelockzrockz
@thelockzrockz Ай бұрын
i was gonna say "go lyn"...:(
@johnw.7399
@johnw.7399 29 күн бұрын
Cant beleive how bad lyns macro was on lost temple. Not he didnt even see 2 expos for the entire game - he also let happy after winning the core Fight with 2 lvl 5 heros rebuilt and letting him alone for so Long happy could take the Last creep spots and getting lvl 5 either while didnt do almost anything himself. Was a Gift. He didnt deserve to win a single game. In a later game he run arround the map for like 5 minutes with 20 supply plus without attacking or building a expo. No hes thinking if I wait long enough he will catch up - lyn doesnt realize his timings in many games. Well thats maybe more difficult and more a thing just happy can handle. Btw for the nerf idea of shades - specially orc got the perfect counter with witchdoctors.
@zhiro12
@zhiro12 Ай бұрын
Lyn won last tournament by a good margin, no one said a thing, They play again only a week later, happy wins 5-0, Everyone says UD is unbalanced…. You people are really crazy
@thehellsong
@thehellsong Ай бұрын
cuz orc win only if they ahead and never if they behind unlike ud
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
@@thehellsong vice versa. UD cant win a game if no light years ahead.
@Tiberium9000
@Tiberium9000 Ай бұрын
@@thehellsong local wc3 enjoyer makes an unexpected discovery - it's easier to win if you are ahead. Shocking.
@twassell25
@twassell25 Ай бұрын
​@@nightyonetwothree what are you talking about? Watch focus vs happy from 2 days ago. Focus killed 6 ghouls early game, was up 20 tier 3 upgraded supply and still instantly lost. Theres countless und vs orc games that the und wins. Soin lost to 120 after killing the undead heros 6 times and only losing his third hero once. Never seen anything that absurd. You're just so wrong.
@Tiberium9000
@Tiberium9000 Ай бұрын
@@twassell25 sounds like a skill issue to me
@redouaneortiz4917
@redouaneortiz4917 Ай бұрын
Glad to see Happy schooling lyn 5-0 damn..
@youngmasterDX
@youngmasterDX Ай бұрын
happy lost the battle but won the war vs forti and lyn…best player ever!
@thehellsong
@thehellsong Ай бұрын
winning show matches is victory in war while losing in tournaments is losing a battle?
@elliott-waves-academy
@elliott-waves-academy Ай бұрын
@@thehellsong Maybe he means the war of who is actually the best Warcraft, and so far Happy is proving that he is the GOAT
@thehellsong
@thehellsong Ай бұрын
@@elliott-waves-academy GOAT means the greatest of all time which is simply can't be true cuz he wasn't even near at top when warcraft was popular and saturated with pro players. Right now he is one of the best current players, actually one of two best players
@elliott-waves-academy
@elliott-waves-academy Ай бұрын
@@thehellsong warcraft was popular ? i guess Warcraft was and still popular although it's not as popular as Dota became
@nurilnuril4372
@nurilnuril4372 Ай бұрын
It's amazing games like these don't receive the star. Makes you really appreciate the star games.
@twassell25
@twassell25 Ай бұрын
Why would these get the star? It was terrible to watch. One player gets absolutely destroyed, and didn't even play bad.
@returnofmerenguespersempre6664
@returnofmerenguespersempre6664 Ай бұрын
sad day for happy haters hahahahah
@noxiansummoner1730
@noxiansummoner1730 Ай бұрын
Legit
@allydea
@allydea Ай бұрын
I don't hate Happy, I just think he's playing an overpowered race.
@comedyclubpodcast
@comedyclubpodcast Ай бұрын
Sad day for us - Lyn lovers
@comedyclubpodcast
@comedyclubpodcast Ай бұрын
@@allydeaseems like undead is not too good if you are with my skill, but if you are a top tier player it is the best
@MacLeodConnor
@MacLeodConnor Ай бұрын
​@@allydea if undead is op why Lucifer can't dominate ?
@user-mk9wk4bd8l
@user-mk9wk4bd8l Ай бұрын
Why happy can win?
@OooOo01
@OooOo01 Ай бұрын
Replace magic immunity of Destro's to Resistant skin what MG has, otherwise ORC won't win that mass Destro
@redouaneortiz4917
@redouaneortiz4917 Ай бұрын
Lol y'all didn't see last game Lyn won 4-1 against happy..orc can win easily Lyn just not in his day today..
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
maybe buff destroyers damage then? They have the lowest dps across all air/magic units by far.
@user-lt6ps2vd5o
@user-lt6ps2vd5o Ай бұрын
Слава императору
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
basically the way Lyn throw series is just by laziness, poor scouting, insta leaves after equal battles, doesn't want to play tempo. Winning a tournament and chilling on showmatches. And never buy dusts... zero fx given about the game
@user-yp1tp7hf3f
@user-yp1tp7hf3f Ай бұрын
See, Happy fan(boys)? No need to whine about balance. Happy made some tiny adjustments, and he is now back to being completely invincible again. I said it before that this mass wyvern strat is really bad, because FS is not really competitive Vs high-level UD heroes, and mass wyvern cannot really compete Vs high-level Lich with Orb of Corruption + Acid Bomb. So it's a very tempo based strat that is not really sustainable. If you can't close the game in 10 minutes, it's over. The sad part is that Lyn and other Orcs will need to play the mass wyvern strat again, because there really is no alternative. Lyn tried 10 different builds involving head hunters, grunts + bats, Spirit Walkers, grunt/raider/walker, 2 Rax straight HH, wyvern + kodo + HH, even taurens, before settling for the mass wyvern build. You can't blame Lyn for not trying everything that he possibly could in this matchup, because he has(and then some). This was horrible to watch. Not even a back-and-forth. Just one player getting stomped over and over again no matter what he tried to do.
@noxiansummoner1730
@noxiansummoner1730 Ай бұрын
First of all we are acolytes. Second of all we still need to have UD nerfs discarded
@tobiasschmidt8069
@tobiasschmidt8069 Ай бұрын
top erkannt, immer wieder erbärmlich zu sehen wie Lyn alles versucht und harte kritik einsteckt vonwegen spiele mal so oder so... während Happy seit unzeiten den gleichen A-click spielt, Lyn gewinnt auch nur wenn Happy es zulässt durch Fehler, machen beide kaum Fehler gewinnt immer Happy, diese jämmerliche scheiss Balance ist einfach widerlich.
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
@@tobiasschmidt8069 would you like to demonstrate "aclick" by happy? Maybe lyn want to ghouls rush vs happy orc?
@user-yp1tp7hf3f
@user-yp1tp7hf3f Ай бұрын
@@tobiasschmidt8069 Yup. What I find incredible is that while Lyn has tried builds vs Happy involving every unit combination imaginable, Happy keeps beating him with basically ghouls and destroyers. Really sad.
@user-yp1tp7hf3f
@user-yp1tp7hf3f Ай бұрын
@@nightyonetwothree That is a great idea. I would love to watch that. Lyn would actually destroy Happy playing Undead Vs Happy playing Orc. Here's a game between Lyn and Grubby with Lyn playing Undead. Lyn beats Grubby's entire army with a Lich and almost nothing elese. And before you say that Grubby is not that good anymore, well, he was still 2,300 MMR and had just beaten LawLiet on ladder the day before this game happened. BTW, Lyn reached 2,450 MMR with Undead on Wc3c, around 200 MMR higher than Grandmaster level. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i8x1eLx1ubzWn6M.htmlsi=2ND5t82GHbVdQRT-
@PK13719
@PK13719 Ай бұрын
!!!Spoilershield!!!
@thomaskunz3089
@thomaskunz3089 Ай бұрын
add thrall skin to farseer hero, and jaina to mage, grom to blademaster, u know, add some nice skins to the heroes, why not? they just gonna look a lot cooler. i hate it that far seer is old orc, and blademaster is just an old orc as well...
@user-zy4rw1ed7p
@user-zy4rw1ed7p Ай бұрын
За 400 бакинских так типа отъебал)
@kimeric7673
@kimeric7673 Ай бұрын
UD is too OP
@leonnunhofer3453
@leonnunhofer3453 Ай бұрын
Spoiler: Happy changed, at least, 2 things in his gameplay. Not just the shade, he also has orb on DK instead of on the Lich in game 2, to have more dmg vs air 🤷‍♂️
@sanaebeast4485
@sanaebeast4485 Ай бұрын
He has already changed orb to DK to attack wyvern in the past, the only change is the shade that he only used to against BM also be used to against FS+wyvern.
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
He used orb on dk in their last matches too. Shade was change and more ghouls
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree Ай бұрын
he always do it, at least in last 5 years. Dont make things up
@twassell25
@twassell25 Ай бұрын
Nothing was changed. Lumber gathering units and heros with q destroyer or two crashes every single strategy orc can do.
@CyberWish86
@CyberWish86 Ай бұрын
Antispoiler
@antond340
@antond340 Ай бұрын
Biased commentator
@LAdS897
@LAdS897 Ай бұрын
If anything he was being pro-Lyn, in this series
@jaff0011
@jaff0011 Ай бұрын
Who knew the counter to mass wyvern was ghoul destro, just unironically more ghouls instead of destro. Less free xp for orc heroes from destros dying, more pressure on them from ghouls, while UD heroes singlehandedly shit on the entire wyvern army. Interesting.
@sanaebeast4485
@sanaebeast4485 Ай бұрын
Only Happy can deal with mass wyvern by using DK+Lich+AL.
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
@@sanaebeast4485yes only happy labby and 120. Focus lost to 120 using wyrns :))
@sanaebeast4485
@sanaebeast4485 Ай бұрын
@@Biobin123 So in the past nearly half year, how many times did 120 and laby win focus? In other words, how many times did 120 and laby win focus's mass wyvern by using DK+Lich+AL?
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
@@sanaebeast4485 Mass wyrn is a new thing. Focus used it against 120 2 times lost both. Labby 1 times and laby won. Name 1 tournament which was won by mass wyrn in past year so 2023 ? - you can’t cause it’s a new thing
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 Ай бұрын
@@Biobin123 welcome, you must be new to the game. there are multiple threads on the web where ud players were asking how to counter mass wind riders that are almost 10 yrs old, and they are still patiently waiting for an answer.
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
Spoiler So who was saying gg ud got canceled? What i was saying hapoy was not in his form for last month nothing to do with orc op or hu op…
@DarkflameEmperor
@DarkflameEmperor Ай бұрын
Hopefully the UD nerf doesn't mess them up in the next patch. Ghouls being trash for example. UD is the lowest ranked race right now (in terms of top 50 being 8 UD) and the ghoul nerf might really solidify them below NE.
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
@@DarkflameEmperor Least played race having least top players is normal. Least played race dominating all tier 1 and even below tournaments is strange. Also top 1 player of ud being able to win 100 out 100 games of top 1 ne top 1 hu and top 1 orc is kind of strange… I am a huge fanboy but ne really needed some buffs ( maybe not this much but needed buffs) , orc needs help too. Ghouls needed nerf lumber gathering unit dominating t3 units… even in this series ghouls were core part while lyn used air…
@horderob2025
@horderob2025 Ай бұрын
@@Biobin123 in the last event we had 3 Orc, 3 HU and 1 Orc/HU in top-8. 8 out of 16 players used orc, every second one. NE needs buff for sure but voting for Orc buff and UD nerf is insane
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
@@horderob2025 i agree it’s insane to vote for nerfing race which win all tournaments t1 and even below with lumbar gathering t1 unit.
@horderob2025
@horderob2025 Ай бұрын
@@Biobin123 your "race" that win all t1 tournaments (actually not all) is one player. And if you think that having 8 orcs out of 16 players isnt enough you just stupid and we have nothing to discuss
@Horangs714
@Horangs714 Ай бұрын
While these guys are the best in the game, getting tired of seeing this match. Yawn… best recent matchup was UD vs HU which was nail biting. Orc vs UD is boring……. GJ Happy
@twassell25
@twassell25 Ай бұрын
I'll agree this matchup is boring but so is und vs hu.
@timurradman3999
@timurradman3999 29 күн бұрын
I bet you haven't watched the lost temple part
@vampirel1983
@vampirel1983 Ай бұрын
Its 400 RMB chinese yuan about $58 bucks per match, loser gets half.. Please dont put that in the title if you are not sure how much it is
@Back2Warcraft
@Back2Warcraft Ай бұрын
its 400RMB per win, 200 RMB per loss thats $83 per map its 5 maps thats $414 for the five maps whats your problem now exactly?
@timurradman3999
@timurradman3999 29 күн бұрын
Chill dude You're not the one getting the money
@twassell25
@twassell25 Ай бұрын
Both amazing players but this just doesnt look fair at all for orc...from an observers point of view. I dont feel like lyn made any huge mistakes really to signify a 0-5 result. Somehow und workers are the choice couter to tier 3 wyvern. The tri hero just single handedly destroy the orc air army from across the map with spells. It doesnt make sense to me. Damn this was hard to watch. Edit: But i guess at least its not another fortitude happy showmatch.
@DooMWhite
@DooMWhite Ай бұрын
You must be kidding. He let a shade follow him for 10 minutes straight...
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 Ай бұрын
Lmao, you were not complaining it was unfair when Lyn 4-1ed Happy last tournament though by abusing wyvs and bats, guess you must be trolling
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
@@DooMWhite What you do against shade with mass wyrn strat? Buying dusts is not a great option 75 gold + inventory slot+ you need to go to shop + mass wyrn strat you need all the gold that’s why you sell items+ not a guarantee to catch a shade which in turn is just 75 gold.
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 Ай бұрын
@@xtremelemon8612 4-1 and back/forth close games are not same as 5-0 pure stomp. Also lyn won game 1 using hh not mass wyrn. If now happy would win 4-1 with close games where it could easily be 4-2 or even 4-3 that’s great place to be .
@tak08810
@tak08810 Ай бұрын
@@xtremelemon8612this guy was conspicuously absent when Lyn beat happy 2-1 and 3-1 now pops back up lmao
@timfink7980
@timfink7980 Ай бұрын
Can we nerf coil nova now?
@LAdS897
@LAdS897 Ай бұрын
Cringe comment
@Tiberium9000
@Tiberium9000 Ай бұрын
Can we nerf "UD OP" crybabies?
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